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Ectar
Why dont we get something like this?
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20.12.2013 13:13:31
 
Subject: Why dont we get something like this?
Link on message: #6754639

Ectar: On the EU server you get 5x exp for the first win of the day from the the 27th to the 29th of December regardless of how many players are on our servers.  Events for EU and NA won't always be the same as RU and bonuses events will never be global every time.


Ectar
Special: 2013 Retrospective
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19.12.2013 20:17:14
 
Subject: Special: 2013 Retrospective
Link on message: #6749194

Ectar: An entire weekend of double exp guys! It's not just for your first battle it's active for every battle!  


Ectar
Youtube and recent changes to it's terms regarding intellectual property
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18.12.2013 13:37:02
 
Subject: Youtube and recent changes to it's terms regarding intellectual property
Link on message: #6736321

Ectar: Hi guys,   For people that use Youtube to host videos about World of Tanks you may be aware of a recent change in their terms regarding monetization/copyright protection. We just want to let everyone know that we are totally cool with players making video's using our game and hosting them on Youtube. If for any reason someone has issues with their channel please can you submit a ticket to our support team with the following information:   Your in-game nickname Your real first and last name Your Youtube channel link The e-mail address linked to your Youtube channel   We will then make sure you have the applicable license/permission from Wargaming to allow you to continue making your awesome videos (and for you to profit from it).


Ectar
Missing credits and free exp on test server
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18.12.2013 12:42:58
 
Subject: Missing credits and free exp on test server
Link on message: #6735775

Ectar: Greetings,   We have been receiving reports regarding an issue with some players who are unable to use their free exp and credits on the 8.10 test server. Sadly due to technical limitations this issue will not be resolved before the end of the 8.10 test.   We would like to apologize to all players affected by this and we will take steps to make sure this issue doesn't happen again in a future test.   Regards


Ectar
Design Your Own Community T-Shirt
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18.12.2013 08:38:19
 
Subject: Design Your Own Community T-Shirt
Link on message: #6734132

View Postastronomypete, on 17 December 2013 - 05:58 PM, said: So not a single gold or tank offered, in return. What about a reward for those who can't attend? Why ask for the username if there's no reward.

Ectar:   Taking part in the contest is entirely optional. If you can't attend any events you'll still see pictures of everyone else wearing your t-shirt.  The prize is seeing everyone wear your work. Your username is asked for so that if your design is picked, everyone will know you designed it.


Ectar
Design Your Own Community T-Shirt
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17.12.2013 19:55:10
 
Subject: Design Your Own Community T-Shirt
Link on message: #6730784

View PostRonineter, on 17 December 2013 - 04:48 PM, said: So it has to be similar to the Land conquered,skies in progress and seas to go T-shirts? (Im currently wearing on of those)

Ectar:   Something like that yes. The 2013 one can be seen here at our recent event in the Czech Republic - http://worldoftanks.eu/cs/news/44/rekapitulace-predvanocniho-setkani-praha/


Ectar
Design Your Own Community T-Shirt
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17.12.2013 18:14:37
 
Subject: Design Your Own Community T-Shirt
Link on message: #6729833

View Postadikatar56, on 17 December 2013 - 04:08 PM, said: what is the rewrad going to be ?

Ectar:   Your design on thousands of our community t-shirts. It's a non commercial venture. We pay to make all the t-shirts and give them out for free. We don't charge players for them and we make no return on them. These t-shirts are purely for players who attend our community gatherings as a way to say thanks for coming.


Ectar
What happens if..
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17.12.2013 15:21:02
 
Subject: What happens if..
Link on message: #6728116

View PostMystiA, on 17 December 2013 - 01:07 PM, said: ...You happen to complete the is6 quest and You have that tank already? Do you just get a free garage slot? 12k gold as compensation? Or nothing?

Ectar:   You get the gold value of the tank


Ectar
Which category are you in?
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17.12.2013 15:19:09
 
Subject: Which category are you in?
Link on message: #6728100

View PostMangrove, on 16 December 2013 - 06:13 PM, said: From my observations of behaviour during roll-out from base, I mentally put players in the following categories:
PRO:  Knows what to do and where to go;  leaves base efficiently without bumping into other players;  gives way to other players crossing his path;  doesn't shoot his guns.
LEMMING:  Doesn't know which way to go and turret can be seen turning side-to-side trying to decide which train to follow;  starts out in a direction and then changes mind to follow a longer train in another direction.
NOOB:  Rushes out of base bumping into other players that are in the way;  usually seen shooting guns and often hits other players starting a mini revenge battle; always signalling "HELP", "DEFEND THE BASE", "POSITIVE", "NEGATIVE" for no apparent reason;  is usually one of the first to be killed;  can often be seen trying to explore inaccessible areas of a map or traversing at speed down a 500 foot sheer cliff face;  they also leap off the top.
SHOW OFF NOOB:  Seems to think that travelling with the turret facing rearwards is cool;  usually has a decent tank like a T69 but should go back to Tier I with the other children.
NOOB PLATOON:  Same as Noob above;  usually low tier tanks rushing around in remote areas of a map shooting each other.
IDIOT PLATOON:  And don't we all love it when Tier VIII platoons with Tier II ....
There must be other categories that players slot into ... any ideas?
 

Ectar:   Pro lemming Show off noob reporting for duty sir!     


Ectar
QuickyBaby eSports Boot Camp Live Stream, December 17th
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17.12.2013 13:57:38
 
Subject: QuickyBaby eSports Boot Camp Live Stream, December 17th
Link on message: #6727261

Ectar: Always cool to help more people know more about eSports!  It's no secret that Spale are my favorite team too! ULI ULI ULI!    


Ectar
The all new "I killed Ectar" thread
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17.12.2013 12:10:56
 
Subject: The all new "I killed Ectar" thread
Link on message: #6726169

Ectar: Maybe, it would need to be on a weekend again and I don't normally work weekends now.


Ectar
you most flattering insults?
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16.12.2013 19:37:45
 
Subject: you most flattering insults?
Link on message: #6721218

Ectar: Been told by someone his brother works for WG and he will ban me for cheating   Also been told I'm not the real Ectar


Ectar
The all new "I killed Ectar" thread
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16.12.2013 19:09:22
 
Subject: The all new "I killed Ectar" thread
Link on message: #6720899

View Postermo87, on 12 December 2013 - 03:43 PM, said: Is Quickbaby active on the forums? If so, he should post a screenie of when he tk'd Ectar in his hellcat.    Also: I think ectar should do another 'an ordinary day at the office'-thread. Just to show the progress career-wise since last time! :medal:

Ectar:   I found that thread after Brynd asked about it - http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/209977-ectar-news/   It was in reply to a player complaining at the lack of news over the weekend and things were kinda quiet that morning. :glasses:


Ectar
March of Nations
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16.12.2013 19:07:09
 
Subject: March of Nations
Link on message: #6720866

View PostMcLarenN1, on 16 December 2013 - 03:43 PM, said: A 15% discount for VII-X tier, but what about IX tier? I wanner buy Obj.704 and it is still 3.111.000. Is it a bug or I got the news wrong? Tell me please, who knows somthing about it. Thanks. Best reggads McLarenN1

Ectar:   The normal price is 3,660,000


Ectar
A review of WoT's rival game...
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16.12.2013 18:50:14
 
Subject: A review of WoT's rival game...
Link on message: #6720672

View Postkrazypenguin, on 13 December 2013 - 12:39 PM, said: So, we all know what is out there, there's certainly been some mention of it before on the forums, but I thought some might appreciate a considered and reasoned look at WG's competitor and, most importantly, a comparison of the two.  How well does each game do in various criteria, what works and what doesn't?   I am, of course, referring to...     Barbie Online Horseracing - LINK by popular demand!!   Yes, we've all been there.  The in-game chat messages telling us to "go play Barbie Online Horseracing."  Well, it's time someone did just that and, seeing as I don't have anything better to do with my life, I thought it might as well be me.  So let's get cracking and first up it's...   INSTALLATION Whilst WoT is a fairly large download and install (circa 5GB IIRC) Barbie Online Horesracing (hereafter referred to simply as BOHR) features no download or install at all!  It's all played directly from the URL.  This is a clear advantage over WoT's long and tedious download. WoT 0 - BOHR 1   ACCOUNT CREATION With WoT it is necessary to create an account using an e-mail address and this is then used to log in everytime.  Whilst not particularly difficult or troublesome this is not as easy as BOHR's much simpler system of simply entering your name: WoT 0 - BOHR 2   MAP CHOICE As we all know, it is not possible to choose the map you want to play in WoT, nor to deselect those you do not wish to play.  However, this is a feature which the creatures of BOHR have embraced fully.  Sadly for BOHR users though, the Devs have only released 2 maps so far - "Gallop on the Beach" and "Trot down a canyon trail". As such I am conflicted about which game is best.  Clearly many WoT players wish to be able to chose which maps they do or do not play but at least in WoT we have a massive number to choose from.  So whilst the developers of BOHR seem to be on the right track, they clearly need to put a lot more effort into map design.  It's a tough one to call but I'm going to go with WoT for this one.  That said, I do appreciate the BOHR devs' attempt to at least make their map names more interesting - I think the WOT devs could learn from this, perhaps renaming Murovanka to "Camping in the Magic Forest" or Redshire to "Oh look, it's a draw" for example. WoT 1 - BOHR 2   VEHICLE CHOICE No question on this one.  WoT features a choice of hundreds of vehicles, covering the full spectrum of tank based warfare (and SPGs), whilst BOHR only has a meagre 6 vehicles to choose from, all of which appear to be from the same class (apparently called horses) and do not appear to have different stats, or any stats at all.  Also, whilst WoT has gone for the model of having to unlock higher tiered vehicles as you progress in the game, in BOHR all vehicles are available to the player immediately. As such there seems to be little incentive to continue playing in order to progress and I cannot see 6 vehicles of the same class being fun to play in the long term.  Being a gold noob I have, naturally, selected the "rich, reddish gold" option.  It is worth noting however, that BOHR have chosen not to implement the much hated arty into their game, at least yet.  Hopefully the addition of additional vehicle classes (perhaps ponies and donkeys) will not ruin this... WoT 2 - BOHR 2   CAMOUFLAGE In WoT we are offered a wide variety of camo patterns.  However, these must be purchased for either gold or credits.  Whilst BOHR only features 4 types of camo these are availble completely free of charge. Here you can see that I have opted for the sleek 'n shiny camo, which I hope will allow my vehicle to blend in with the tall grasses and rushes.  To be honest, it's really only a choice between that and wavy (best for bushes I think) as the option of plain (ie. no camo) seems to defeat the point and braided would presumably only assist if the enemy team consisted of heavily dreadlocked Rastafarian tankers, a situtation I have yet to come across.  So it's a question of greater choice but at a cost, versus less choice but free.  Since I tend to have favourite camos in WoT that I use all the time anyway I think less for free is probably better here. WoT 2 - BOHR 3   EQUIPMENT Again, it's choice at a cost versus less choice for free.  WoT features a large number of equipment items of whch up to 3 can be fitted to enhance the performance of your vehicle but these can cost up to 600,000 credits!  BOHR once agin features less but for free - with only 2 equipment slots and a choice of 3 or 4 items for each slot. Clearly the free to play model that BOHR seem to be pursuing so agressively is hampering the ability of their devs to add new content.  Once again, as a player I must choose free over quantity.  That said, I could not see any performance benefit to my vehicle from any of the equipment options I selected.  This makes me question what hidden stats the BOHR devs might be protecting... WoT 2 - BOHR 4   INSIGNIA & EMBLEMS Whilst WoT again provides a massive quantity boost over BOHR but at a cost to players, here BOHR catches up a little.  It features 3 different types of customisation, again all for free! Here you can see I have opted for some sparkly glittering hoof polish (seriously WG, why don't we have glitter for our tanks - you are missing a trick here!) and a lovely Afrika Corps style palm tree.  Tres chic and all for free! WoT 2 - BOHR 5   NAME YOUR VEHICLE Wow!  This is an option that WoT haven't really even considered, short of paying for an inscription which may or may not be a name for you tank, with BOHR you are actually asked to name your vehicle.  And once again, it's totally free. Here you can see that I have opted to call my vehicle "Dogfood".  I feel it is a strong name. WoT 2 - BOHR 6   TO BATTLE! Well, frankly it's looking bad for WoT.  BOHR is leading by a veritable landslide and short of something pretty spectacular happening I cannot see WoT pulling this back to win.  But so far it's all really just been window dressing.  What happens when you finally ready up and press that Battle\Ok button?  Well, as you all know, WoT then launches you into a random battle with 14 strangers of variable quality against a team of 15 more strangers, also of variable quality, and you battle to the death\cap to see who will win.  The better you do personally and as a team, the better your reward.   And this is where BOHR finally falls down - and big time at that.   See, clicking "Ok" to the previous screen in BOHR doesn't then launch you into a do or die race to the death against other players.  No, instead you just get this:   I mean...where's the race?  That's it?  The entire game is just getting ready to enter battle?  No wonder it's free to play!  Now, I'll admit, maybe it's early days for BOHR (I couldn't see if it was in Alpha, Beta or actually released) but this really isn't good enough.  In fact, I'm going to have to say that the very failure to include any actual battle and\or racing must disqualify BOHR from the competition.  A shame as it was doing so well. I must also admit that I feel slightly cheated by the way in which it displays my user ID and vehicle name, in effect making it look like I am dogfood.  It's like the BOHR devs are laughing at me :-( WoT 2 - BOHR *Disqualified*   So there you have it, a serious comparison of WoT and its major online rival.  BOHR clearly has much potential and very, very nearly delivers but falls down badly at the last hurdle....a pity as that should be what it is best at...:trollface:    

Ectar:       Been waiting for the perfect time to use this image....


Ectar
IS-6 Anyone?
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16.12.2013 17:34:17
 
Subject: IS-6 Anyone?
Link on message: #6719934

View Postiulica1337, on 16 December 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:   Ectar one more question. We need to have all t6 tanks in garage after finish the mission?  I have only 2 free slots and i need to complete 2 nation then sell the tanks buy 2 nation again and repeat after i finish all nation.  

Ectar:   Nope once the mission is complete you can do what you want with your tier VI  

View PostDarkrenown, on 16 December 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:   There's nothing difficult about the mission, it's just a huge grind. Who asked for more grind fests? Do you have any examples of people saying "Man, I would really love to have to play 4 hours of T6 tanks every day over the holiday season". When people wanted more difficult missions every example I have seen was wanting more stuff like be top 3 damage/XP in your team/game. Have huge grindy missions if you want to, they are good for people with little or no income and large amounts of free time, I suppose, but don't pretend they are difficult. 

Ectar:   Well if it wasn't grindy and instead only took a short time to complete/was much easier, the prize wouldn't be the same. Whenever people say they "don't have time" to do stuff in a game that's intended to be a time sink, you have to realize your request to change the requirements doesn't just affect your circumstances, it affects everyone and lowers the bar for everyone. We can't set different parameters for people based on how much time they play (as everyone will then play as little as possible to get maximum return). It's human nature to want to do less work and get the same reward. That doesn't mean it's a good thing.   Sadly some things in games are time sinks and require people to play more than they regularly would. This even runs for 30 days, and there is more than enough time for people to complete it if they want to.  


Ectar
IS-6 Anyone?
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16.12.2013 13:59:37
 
Subject: IS-6 Anyone?
Link on message: #6717699

View PostSteffenximus, on 15 December 2013 - 10:13 AM, said: So you want me to grind 700k in the course of one month with different (and prob shitty) tanks, over the course of a single month, to win a second-rate premium tank ??? Couldn't you think of something a little harder ?

Ectar:   No, we have given you an option to get a free premium tank by simply playing the game with a set goal.  Participation is purely optional.  

View PostLord_Demon, on 15 December 2013 - 10:44 AM, said: Pretty hard task, but the reward is quite big too.   Just a question: I assume it comes with a garage slot. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Ectar:   If you don't have an IS-6, it comes with a garage slot. If you do have an IS-6, you don't get the garage slot and only get the gold value of the tank.  

View PostCravone, on 15 December 2013 - 12:32 PM, said: This won't be possible if the japanese tanks don't come out tomorrow. Plus, anyone that can afford all of the tanks needed for this mission probably doesn't need an IS-6. Also, I really can't be arsed with that much grinding just for the gold amount of the IS-6, since I have it already. The requirements are way too high either way.   Should be something like, 200 kills, 100k damage, 50k spotting damage over that time frame, would be much better because you actually have to do something in a battle. The most viable tactic to doing this mission is getting each nation's fastest tank and suicide rushing at the start, go to garage, do it again in another tank, get the scout xp, play game fast. Doing this mission properly would not make it possible to complete.

Ectar:   It's perfectly possible without the Japanese Tanks right now, you have 6 other nations you need to get 100,000 exp on first before worrying about a nation that's not just there jet.  

View PostDongfeng_division, on 15 December 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:   So in your words WG decided to give IS-6 for free to all the freeloaders who would never have the money to buy IS-6 for gold (or any other WG service) or are so young they are not able to even use a credit card.   While on the other hand paying customers (working people, people with school etc) are left-out because this kind of grind is just not doable for them.   I must admit I fail to see the logic behind WG move. It's like McDonalds giving out free hamburgers to people who never bought one, after signing a contract they will never buy one in the future either. Does that make any sense? It doesn't to me. A sane business move is to reward your best customers, or to stimulate other customers into spending more money on your products.    But well, whatever. No more gold for you, dirty communists. I like capitalism and meritocracy. This mission opposes the principles of both capitalism and meritocracy.  

Ectar:   If people don't want the tank by doing the mission, they can still purchase it via the store and it's discounted at Christmas.  

View PostJudgeZetsumei, on 15 December 2013 - 01:51 PM, said: They probably have done this intentionally to get money out of us. We realise it's quicker and easier just to buy the tank than grind it out and then after buying it we immediately realise we've just bought a tank we never intended on getting in the first place. I'm sure there are people out there who end up doing just that.   Even if you grind the 700k xp out you will probably end up spending gold on free xp conversion to get to tanks you don't have and/or avoid stock grinds, on credit conversion cos you might not have enough credits, on premium to ease the grind, on garage slots for all those tier 6 tanks and on crew training.

Ectar:   We did it intentionally because players asked for more difficult missions. If people would rather buy the tank directly then that option is still available. (And i'd advise them to wait until it's discounted later this month). It's not like this is the only way to get the tank now.  

View Postbandit287, on 15 December 2013 - 02:39 PM, said: OR i could spend the time with my family,friends and girlfriend,instead of doing ridiculous missions. How about that ?

Ectar:   Nothing wrong with that. You're not forced to play and it's not a limited tank that will never return. Enjoy the time with your family, friends and girlfriend.  

View PostDathdeath, on 15 December 2013 - 03:32 PM, said: But what if 10 of the 15 were suicide scouts and bots? This way even the useless ones would progress in the missions.

Ectar:   Then 5 of the 10 played really really bad to be outscored by bots and suicide scouts.... They might progress in the mission but their progress will be very very slow.  

View PostHarikusa, on 15 December 2013 - 03:46 PM, said: Why all quests like that made for geeks with all nation 10 lvl tanks and stuff like that?

Ectar:   Well to compete in this mission you only need tier VI tanks...


Ectar
Video: RNG Episode 13
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16.12.2013 13:22:47
 
Subject: Video: RNG Episode 13
Link on message: #6717334

View Posthscorpio, on 16 December 2013 - 09:57 AM, said: Lately the RNG videos only seem to contain:   1. Things being rammed 2. Things being drowned 3. Things being killed by artillery   *yawn*

Ectar:     Well previously people complained when it was showing stuff considered to be glitching or showing game flaws.  The scenarios show the sometimes random ways that people get kills. I mean it's not normal that you'd decide to drive a tank over an enemy tank to take him out, or push one into water (I have to admit pushing someone into water or off a cliff is a fun way to destroy enemy tanks). 


Ectar
March of Nations
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16.12.2013 13:17:53
 
Subject: March of Nations
Link on message: #6717289

View Postturel2, on 15 December 2013 - 01:51 PM, said: No tier 8 premium tank discounts?

Ectar:   From here - http://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/festivities/EoY-Ingame/ Turn of the Year Sales Even more discounts! Item  Discount Premium Account 6 and 12 months 15% off   Premium Vehicles Tier II – V 50% off Tier VI – VII 30% off Tier VIII 15% off Equipment 50% off Camouflage, Emblems and Inscriptions* Up to 50% off * Valid for both the Gold and Credit purchase options. These discounts will be available from Wednesday 25th December 2013 at 06:10 until Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 06:00 CET (GMT+1).  

View PostJudqment8, on 15 December 2013 - 05:44 PM, said: The special is called March of Nations and all I see in the picture is Soviet flag and Soviet tanks... Not exactly the picture I would have chosen to represent the "nations".

Ectar:   It's only because the Soviet Tanks feature first as the lower tiers are discounted from the 16th to the 19th of December.  

View PostStillF_Hostile, on 16 December 2013 - 12:20 AM, said: Does "all tanks" include premium tanks aswell?

Ectar:   Nope. "What is it about? In short, it’s a sale of epic proportions. All nations, all tiers and all tanks (except premium ones) will be involved to put on the biggest parade of discounts we’ve ever put out there. If you’ve been cautious with your coin in the past, holding off for a special offer to expand your tank collection, the March of Nations that will unfold over the coming weeks is the moment that you have been waiting for."  

View PostCarantanien, on 16 December 2013 - 08:33 AM, said: WG gone berserk lol, so many missions, specials :great: GJ   edit: 15% for tierX is still low compared to 30% we had all year threw missions. 

Ectar:   The 15% is lower that's true, but it's not a replacement for the Top of the Tree bonus that also came with boosted credits.   We couldn't run top of the tree at the same time as this event and Top of Tree will start up again later.


Ectar
End of the Year Festivities: In-game bonuses
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16.12.2013 13:04:36
 
Subject: End of the Year Festivities: In-game bonuses
Link on message: #6717162

View PostUnstableMutant, on 15 December 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:   So does that mean I have to log in to the game on the 25th? Or does the tank appear the next time I log in? The text isn't exactly clear. Because logging in on the 25th is going to be a problem for me.

Ectar:  

View PostLestierse, on 15 December 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:   I have the same problem and I would need to know it

Ectar:   You need to log in between the 25th of December and 16th of January.  

View Postyoco93cro, on 15 December 2013 - 11:49 AM, said: can anyone explain that team mission?  1/3/10 victories in random battles? or team battles?

Ectar:   Team battles (7v7)  

View Postkikox, on 15 December 2013 - 03:40 PM, said: Sneaky Ectar being discrete and not telling us about this amazing special time even though we whined about the other bad deals :bajan: Sneaky, sneaky Ectar...:ph34r:

Ectar:   It's been very difficult to reply to concerns about weekend events knowing this was coming. I've known about this since about the start of November.  

View Postendless, on 15 December 2013 - 04:04 PM, said: I'm guessing all those already having IS-6 will get gold or I'm guessing wrong?:bush:But anyway I have to say this year bonuses do seem awesome.gj and thx WG

Ectar:   You get the gold value instead.  

View Postewokgoeth, on 15 December 2013 - 04:57 PM, said: -do we get a free garage slot for the gifted mkVIc? or do we have to sell one old tank or buy a slot (with 50% off, to be sure it is  a bargain anyway) -good crews have HUGE impact on tank combat performance so all the crew xp bonuses rule, especially if you are using the option of elite tank to use all xp for crew training  -50% off equipement means you can really go to town with expensive heavy tank vents or tank destroyers binoculars... -while not covered here, march of the nations means you can kick-start an once-neglected tree branch - or spearhead the new japanese one!

Ectar:   You get a free garage slot with the new British gift tank.  

View Postblindattu, on 16 December 2013 - 06:14 AM, said: Bought obj 140 yesterday like an idiot, wasted 1 mil. credits...The rest is unimportant.  

Ectar:  

View PostKLguns, on 16 December 2013 - 06:18 AM, said: Same here, T110E5 on friday... Nice.

Ectar:   Sorry to hear that guys, don't really know what you're expecting as an answer. No matter when we announced this there would be people who bought tanks on the day or the day before. It will happen with every every event.  Even if we gave you 2 weeks notice, players will have bought tanks just before the notice.


Ectar
Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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15.12.2013 12:04:29
 
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
Link on message: #6707307

Ectar: You should have checked the portal before replying, but I'm sure now you can see how replying to threads about events recently has been difficult considering what we knew what was coming and that we couldn't talk about it.   Any of the things you wanted including the crew training, you now have available to you for 30 days....An entire month of discounts.   I agree the crew training shouldn't have been 3 weeks in a row, I didn't know how it slipped through but once events are locked in, they can't be changed. The only exception we've been able to do in the past is when tied events (which were ment to match,) were different due to last minute changes and everyone not being notified of the change.   We can't change the events each weekend based on player's initial reactions. That's a bad way to manage events. 


Ectar
End of the Year Festivities: In-game bonuses
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15.12.2013 11:51:19
 
Subject: End of the Year Festivities: In-game bonuses
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View PostKaatosade, on 15 December 2013 - 09:43 AM, said: Why some much x2 crew experience? It seems to be for every battle in most cases and not just for the first victory of the day, but still. I would rather have 5x exp for the first victory of the day all the way. Why equipment sale on 25th and not sooner like tomorrow? :child:

Ectar:   27/12– 29/12 x5 experience for the first victory of the day   A x5 exp for first win is a huge bonus and is only ever for a limited time.    Equipment discounts are normally announced a day in advance. You have 13 days to save up for what you want to get. There is lots of things we've done especially for this event to help people plan it out. Lots of stuff is active for about 30 days. 


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IS-6 Anyone?
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15.12.2013 11:35:06
 
Subject: IS-6 Anyone?
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View PostFidelisRaven, on 15 December 2013 - 09:25 AM, said: A question - does that 100 000 xp per tier VI tree need to be grinded in a single vehicle, or one can combine, for example, 40 000 in Kv1s and 60 000 in T150? 

Ectar:     "Gain a combined total of 100,000 experience points while driving specified XXXXX vehicles"   Your example would be ok. It doesn't have to be 100,000 on a specific tank. Only the Japanese tree has that limitation as it has only 1 tier 6. The patch will come in enough time for players to complete the event with that tank included.


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End of the Year Festivities: In-game bonuses
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15.12.2013 11:28:38
 
Subject: End of the Year Festivities: In-game bonuses
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Ectar: I love the new forum formatting system. If for any reason you can't visit the portal...   Commanders, This wonderful year is inevitably coming to an end. There were many good things going on in World of Tanks over the past twelve months and with our combined efforts we managed to push the game to a whole new level. In order to thank you for your continued support and contribution to making 2013 a success, we have prepared a series of special events that will make the turn of the year a blast! Here’s a summary of what you can look forward to.  Click on each link or just read on to learn more about each event. Event Description Date Experience Bonus Tons of experience bonuses all month long 16/12 – 15/01 Holiday Sales Massive discounts on almost everything! 16/12 – 15/01 Team Mission Win 7vs7 Team Battles and profit! 16/12 – 19/12 Holiday Gift Check your garage for a special vehicle 25th December Turn of the Year Sales Even more discounts! 25/12 – 07/01 If you want even more end-of-year events, have a look at our articles dedicated to the missions to get your IS-6 and the huge March of Nations discounts.   Experience Bonuses Benefit from these major boosts to your progress! Knowledge is power and the power is yours! 16/12 – 19/12 x2 crew experience 20/12 – 22/12 x2 experience and x1.5 crew experience for every random battle! 23/12 – 26-12 x2 crew experience 27/12– 29/12 x5 experience for the first victory of the day 30/12 – 05/01 x2 crew experience 06/01 – 08/01 x3 crew experience 09/01– 15/01 x2 crew experience Each bonus will be available from 06:10 CET (GMT+1) on its starting date and ends when the next one starts.   Holiday sales If the March of Nations bonuses are still not enough for you, here are even more discounts! Item Discount Premium Account 3 days for 350 gold (47% off)
7 days for 680 gold (45% off) Garage Slots       50% off Crew Training/Re-training* Crew Skill Reset* Crew’s Personal File Reset Consumables* Barracks Slots * Valid for both the Gold and Credit purchase options. These discounts will be available from Monday 16th December 2013 at 06:10 until Thursday 16th January 2014 at 06:00 CET (GMT+1).   Team Mission If you enjoy special tasks, then don't forget to check out the IS-6 missions. Alternatively, if you prefer an easier path to greatness, earn yourself a profit boost by winning in 7v7 Team Battles! Team Mission Goal Achieve 1 / 3 / 10 Victories Reward 1 Victory 3 Victories 10 Victories  
x5 Automatic Fire Extinguishers 
Enhanced Gun Laying Drive
1 Day Premium Account Conditions Team Battles only. Once per day. A day runs from 06:10 to 06:00 CET (GMT +1)  (i.e. when the daily double experience amount resets). This mission will be available from Monday 16th December at 06:10 until Friday 20th December at 06:00 CET (GMT+1).   Holiday Gift Holidays without presents are no holidays at all! Make sure you grab your special collector’s tank, the Tier II British light tank Mk. VIC, on the 25th of December.   Turn of the Year Sales Even more discounts! Item  Discount Premium Account 6 and 12 months 15% off   Premium Vehicles Tier II – V 50% off Tier VI – VII 30% off Tier VIII 15% off Equipment 50% off Camouflage, Emblems and Inscriptions* Up to 50% off * Valid for both the Gold and Credit purchase options. These discounts will be available from Wednesday 25th December 2013 at 06:10 until Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 06:00 CET (GMT+1).   The holidays are here, commanders!  Party hard!       Enjoy the festive season everyone!  


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March of Nations
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15.12.2013 11:12:21
 
Subject: March of Nations
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Ectar: Commanders, What is your favourite nation in the game? The Germans? Maybe the Soviets? Or is it the Japanese? If you’re like us and you just like all of them, then you will want to hear about the ‘March of Nations’ that we’ve prepared as part of our End of the Year Festivities. What is it about? In short, it’s a sale of epic proportions. All nations, all tiers and all tanks (except premium ones) will be involved to put on the biggest parade of discounts we’ve ever put out there. If you’ve been cautious with your coin in the past, holding off for a special offer to expand your tank collection, the March of Nations that will unfold over the coming weeks is the moment that you have been waiting for. From December 16th – January 16th 15% off all Tier VIII – X tanks of all nations In addition to this month-long discount on high-tier tanks, every week (but for limited periods only) we will also be discounting the lower-tier vehicles, nation by nation, until we’ve covered them all.  USSR Germany U.S.A. France
UK China Japan 16/12 –19/12 19/12 –23/12 23/12 – 27/12 27/12 – 31/12 31/12 – 04/01 04/01 – 08/01 08/01 –16/01 50% off all Tier I-V tanks 30% off all Tier VI-VII tanks ........    


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Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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15.12.2013 04:39:42
 
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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View PostAsghaad, on 14 December 2013 - 10:00 PM, said: oh Ectar trying to hose down PR nightmare with outright lies... well thats a new one ...   1. the norm for as long as i can remember is weekend special. sometimes good, sometimes bad but it IS A NORM when you do this every week for years ... The same as new missions, they are the norm now, if you take them off you are changing the norm, but until you do that they ARE THE NORM so stop insulting the players by trying to push on us the idea that WG isnt required to do a special each week, because you are. If you really believe what you just said Ectar run a week without any weekend special and we will see if you can get away with that :smile:   2. trying to justify running 3 discounts with diminishing returns (and misleading description) in a row by saying that you just cant do anything else is really REALLY stupid ... few weeks back you tried to justify lack of this discount by need to spread it around because you just couldnt give the playerbase the thing it needed and now you are saying that you have to give us this same thing 3 times in a row because you must... what the hell stopped WG from doing what you said earlier - spread these discounts evenly around ?   3. there is a difference between a typo and misleading product description leading to monetary losses of buying customers. one is a tolerable mistake, second is grounds for legal lawsuit... Also typos arent kept and repeated three times in a row, especially on the weekly basis unless its on purpose. purpose here being to scam kiddies of their gold on crew skills dropping...

Ectar:   The term "PR nightmare" is blowing things out of proportion.    1) We can't do a weekend without a special as it now the expected thing. Go back 1 year then 2 and see what the specials are compared to now. They've gone up and up over time as people expect more and more.   2) On Sunday there will be an announcement regarding a bigger than normal event. Bigger than normal is quite honestly an understatement. You'll see why replying to concerns has been difficult or evasive based on what's included and why replying to you now is difficult knowing what's coming.


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This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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14.12.2013 13:34:48
 
Subject: This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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View PostHomer_J, on 14 December 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:   Sunday?   Errmmmm... I think a certain blogger might have beat you to it.  And well, lets say reaction is so far somewhat mixed.

Ectar:   Ah lol. That's a small part of what is to be announced and turned up on reddit 1st. Some people who like to think they know everything actually know nothing. :blinky:


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Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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14.12.2013 00:05:28
 
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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View PostDarkrenown, on 13 December 2013 - 06:09 PM, said: The "norm or normal" is having no bonuses or discounts at all on the weekend.  The norm isn't want you got last week/month, what another region got, or what you think the event should be.   Since when? The norm for a loooong has been for regular weekend specials. You act like specials are a huge burden and we should be super grateful that you grace us with them, but the fact of the matter is you do it so that people will play more and buy more, which makes profits for your company. Everything is relative, you might be perfectly happy with your salary until you find out that the guy next to you is getting paid 50% more for doing the exact same job - thehn suddenly you'll be pretty mad about it. Likewise, specials are great until you notice that another server is getting better ones.   I also notice that in your post, you totally fail to address the two main complaints about this special: 1) You are repeating the same offers for the 2nd and 3rd weeks in a row, and 2) You market this as a flashback to a previous popular special, but you give this one a lesser discount.    It's also interesting that you show up this week to bemoan player complaints, but no one was around last week to address why the special offered "50% Discount on all Crew Training options", but this only applied to training between tanks, not crew skills.

Ectar:   Since when? The norm for a loooong has been for regular weekend specials. You act like specials are a huge burden and we should be super grateful that you grace us with them, but the fact of the matter is you do it so that people will play more and buy more, which makes profits for your company. Everything is relative, you might be perfectly happy with your salary until you find out that the guy next to you is getting paid 50% more for doing the exact same job - thehn suddenly you'll be pretty mad about it. Likewise, specials are great until you notice that another server is getting better ones.   I also notice that in your post, you totally fail to address the two main complaints about this special: 1) You are repeating the same offers for the 2nd and 3rd weeks in a row, and 2) You market this as a flashback to a previous popular special, but you give this one a lesser discount.    It's also interesting that you show up this week to bemoan player complaints, but no one was around last week to address why the special offered "50% Discount on all Crew Training options", but this only applied to training between tanks, not crew skills.  
"The normal" is a regular day in World of Tanks. No bonuses, no discounts, no missions etc. That is exactly what Saturday and Sunday would be without the "specials".   If another guy doing my job in my office was getting 50% more then yeah I might be annoyed but I'm pretty sure they would be a reason for it and the reason is likely something I'd only know about if I needed to. Sometimes we don't get to know about things we want to, no matter who we think we are or why we should. If another guy doing my job in an office on the other side of the world was getting 50% more I wouldn't really care tbh as it doesn't affect me. It's only natural to want what someone else has, even if you don't really like it/want it/would use it. Trust me I've a huge advocate of things being done fairly and I hate people or group getting special treatment. Sadly sometimes things do go the way we want them to. No one is asking you to like it, it's just that we don't always get what we want.   1) The same offers being repeated for 3 weeks I agree isn't really cool but that's because the normal things we use can't be used. 2) Indeed, the wording could have been different but changing it now wouldn't help.  Since March the discounts we can offer players has changed (I did mention this in my previous post) and that's a global change.   I wasn't able to reply to threads last week as I was on vacation last week.    Regarding the portal news, typo's can be made by anyone and sadly sometimes information can change at short notice. When people are working to deadlines it's easy to make a slip up. I've made a  good mistakes myself and in all honestly thousands of sites make errors, they're usually corrected instantly/within a few minutes or don't have an active forum waiting to point out the mistakes right away however. (A perfect example is a recent new article I just read on the BBC website. When talking about a car already mentioned in the article the term "Landrover Freeloader" is used when the correct term is a "Freelander").   When something is pointed out it's easier to notice. If I told you that there is more green cars on the streets than any other car, you'd unconsciously start noticing green cars all the time because someone has pointed this out to you.   New staff and changes in systems/processes can also make familiar work seem unfamiliar.  We're sorry for the issues when publishing past articles and steps have been put into place to help eliminate them.   


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Discounts.Now or later?
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13.12.2013 23:12:57
 
Subject: Discounts.Now or later?
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View Postedger2020, on 13 December 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:   Ectar, do you as community manager read ur PM?

Ectar:   I have an absolute mountain load of PM's I'm slowly working through atm. When I was off last week people still messaged me daily as my mailbox couldn't be turned off. I'll be replying to almost all of the remaining messages I have on Monday.


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This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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13.12.2013 23:10:59
 
Subject: This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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View PostEntilzha66, on 13 December 2013 - 07:58 PM, said: That is going to raise all kinds of hell, and a lot of flaming/trolling on that aspect. I think it will get you, us , nowhere, except high blood pressure.

Ectar:     I think not, but lets wait until Sunday when it's announced and we'll see what people don't like.


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Discounts.Now or later?
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13.12.2013 19:05:25
 
Subject: Discounts.Now or later?
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View PostDan_Abnormal, on 13 December 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:   I appreciate the sentiment, but with indefinite time scales on discounts am I going to be waiting 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years for a discount I'm interested in?   Would it be impossible to set up a long term discount schedule so people can actually time grinding certain tanks to coincide with certain discounts?

Ectar:   I wouldn't say impossible but I can explain why it won't happen. You're then taking something which is a bonus as something for granted and factoring it into your day to day playing.  It's no longer something extra and has become something which is expected as part of your regular play.    In any game you play that has an in-game currency you have 2 choices: Spend it as your earn it, or save it to buy things later.   We're not being an exception to other games you may play I honestly can't think of a game that announces sales in advance (and i'm taking about virtual currency here).  The prices of those tanks were set in advance with the aim of players working towards them and they're perfectly achievable goals. Discounting them at random should be a welcome surprise and a break from the norm. It shouldn't be thought of as a necessity.  It can't always be minimum effort for maximum gains.


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Video: RNG Episode 13
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13.12.2013 18:52:24
 
Subject: Video: RNG Episode 13
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Ectar: Ending is epic and I love the arty triple kill on El Halluf


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This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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13.12.2013 18:07:42
 
Subject: This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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Ectar: Ok guys I'll ask you all this;    After the 25th of December. Post in this thread and let me know if we surprised you or not and let me know if you were satisfied with what was available.  If not, please let me know what realistic expectations you had that were not met and how we could make next year better. (asking for discontinued tanks or tanks that have never previously been available in the gift shop for example isn't realistic).


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Discounts.Now or later?
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13.12.2013 18:00:44
 
Subject: Discounts.Now or later?
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Ectar: Doubtful that you'll see a 50% discount on tier VII. I would suggest however to anyone in any situation that involves buying something.If you're not in a hurry to purchase something and want to wait to a specific date... Then wait. Whilst there is lots of potential situations with different outcomes, only 1 thing is guaranteed. - If you buy it now, it's not discounted.  


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Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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13.12.2013 17:50:23
 
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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View PostdUG1, on 12 December 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:   Not true Ectar, sorry.   I have been here long enough to remember buying Ferdinand on 50% discount for Ferdinand´s Porsche birthday, as well as buying Pershing for Patton´s birthday.   Back then, specials, while not being available each weekend, were actually special and meant something - no wonder I remember those 2, but cant remember which one we had last weekend :harp:

Ectar:   Those 2 individual discounts were one off events and not a normal discount.  Yes in the past bonuses were higher along with discounts (only on tier VII and lower), you also frequently had events where it was 1 tank per nation and not all in a tier (for example it would be the Tiger P or Tiger H, the Hellcat or M36). It's not just in Europe but across all regions where the bonuses have been toned down. Please don't start saying that "back in the day" things were better because the first thing you'll need to show is a direct comparison (as in multiple months, not random individual weekend specials) of when things were apparently better. I can assure you that "back in the day" the playerbase was less demanding and things weren't taking for granted as much as they are now.    As I said earlier with the addition of weekly, weekend, and monthly missions this means that the in-game discounts and credit boosts can't be the same as they used to be. We're also conscious that the "extra help" that these events are intended to be, has been forgotten.  It used to be "Oh hey cool, a garage discount" whereas now it's. "I know there is such a thing as garage discounts, so give me one now".    When something becomes to regular you don't see it anymore as an extra. It becomes an expected regular feature/occurrence.   In this thread someone drew a negative that this event doesn't cater to low tier. Not that long ago we did a low tier event and people complained there was nothing for high tiers.   - now you might read this and think "Well why not just do an event that works for low and high tier?" but then what happens the week after? Everyone expects the same because last week it was like that, or this week we're not catering to XXXX. Players wanted discount crew training and when it was added one of the first comments was to swap it out for discount garage/barrack slots instead. There is requests for discount garage slots now, I can guarantee you that if we had it now, people would just complain later in the month that they can't buy new tanks because garage slots are full price so we should discount them then too.   I've seen comments in other threads with things like "Worst month ever" and "what you do later doesn't make up for now".  Where is this attitude coming from? do you even realize the tone of your message?  Again too many people are acting like we've given you something then taken it away, or promised something that hasn't came.  Look at these weekend events for exactly what they are. An extra bonus for players when playing the game. They are not the only reason for you to play this weekend and they are not something which is always going to be applicable to you as an individual player.   "You don't do enough 5x exp events!" - *do a 5x exp event* - "great nothing but noobs playing now, I can't win they're always in my team, stupid 5x exp events" "You don't discount high tiers" - *discount high tiers* - "Awesome, now all the noobs can rush into high tiers and ruin my matches" "You should give tanks credit boosts for specific types of tanks or tiers" *add credit boosts to tiers or types* - "OMG now this weekend the game is full of TDs/Heavies/Mediums/German/USSR/British etc etc tanks" "When will premium tanks be discounted?" *discount premium tanks* - "not fair, tier VIII is filled with wallet warriors now!" or "Screw you WG, now there is nothing but E25's everywhere" "It's always crew training, I want first win bonuses" /"You've done first win 3 times now, I want crew training"    Above examples is pretty much standard replies we see. Every time the missions that are active at the same time are also completely ignored.   Now regarding the claims of "this isn't a special" - you're taking the word too literary.  Even then if you're still going to be specific about the word it basically means: Something distinguished by a unique or unusual quality. Better, great or otherwise unusual from what is the norm. The "norm or normal" is having no bonuses or discounts at all on the weekend.  The norm isn't want you got last week/month, what another region got, or what you think the event should be.   I can honestly say that when the seasonal events are announced, everyone will be surprised and even the most skeptical/cynical people will struggle to find something to complain about. I can't wait to see everyone's reactions.  


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12.12.2013 21:41:34
 
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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View Post____Killface____, on 12 December 2013 - 06:18 PM, said: I know Ectar I meant those 8 we have on special this week(t7),but t8 did get on 30% off all the time in the past to no its like never ..

Ectar:   My bad.  

View Postlases, on 12 December 2013 - 06:23 PM, said: how about some equipment discount ? 

Ectar:  

View PostMaxmk6, on 12 December 2013 - 06:51 PM, said: And same goes for an equipment sale - been ages since the last one - are we ever going to get an equipment sale again?

Ectar:     The last equipment sale was at the start of November. It's been just over a month guys... Do you honestly expect a major discount like this every month?   As I mentioned in a post back in October, the previous equipment discounts before that were on the 3rd of September and the 22nd of August. Generally equipment discounts are once per quarter.          


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Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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12.12.2013 19:54:54
 
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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View Post____Killface____, on 12 December 2013 - 05:35 PM, said: To low % to make this fell like a special,try make those 8 tanks cost 50% less and earn 100% more now it a old school special that were fun...  

Ectar:   tier 8 tanks have never been 50% off nor have they ever been 100% increased credits. Your expectations of a "old school" special are a bit different from what has actually be on offer in the past.


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This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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12.12.2013 19:49:26
 
Subject: This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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View PostEbenezerScrooge, on 12 December 2013 - 05:37 PM, said: sure it's nice but there is also a downside of this discounts and bonuses we all know what I'm talking about and apparently WG can't fix those I would rather choose game without discounts and bonuses to actually have fun with decent teams but all I can see is more and more red armies attracted(more profit for WG) by your awesome discounts and bonuses(more credits=more premium rounds,like we need that..) making this game less and less playable and more and more frustrating and more and more bot and afk friendly go figure

Ectar:   Right now in news announcement thread a few players are complaining because the feel the weekend bonus isn't enough.  People always want different things. 


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Free XP and Gold not Showing + Servers down
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12.12.2013 19:45:49
 
Subject: Free XP and Gold not Showing + Servers down
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View PostUndeadas, on 12 December 2013 - 11:17 AM, said: So is there status update? Should we fear now? Or the people who are in charge of CW didn't return to office? Or even do they exists?

Ectar:   We're still waiting on an answer, as soon as we have an updated we'll let you know.


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Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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12.12.2013 19:18:39
 
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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View PostGancelot, on 12 December 2013 - 04:51 PM, said: Such a special. Worse then the original one are you kidding me? Giving us 30% discount and 20% more credits while the original one had 50% off and 30% more credits? :facepalm:   Proof before you delete it or something ... Jesus WG. http://puu.sh/5KoDy.jpg http://puu.sh/5KoEr.jpg  

Ectar:   the March article can be found here on our portal. In March however you didn't also have the following:   Monthly Mission 1: Learning By Doing
Goal: Be in the top 3 experience earners from your team in a battle 
Reward: +20% Crew Experience
Conditions: Random Battles only.
Only base XP counts (no bonuses for the first victory of the day, premium account etcYou can receive the reward each time you complete the goal.   Monthly Mission 4: Earning Your Stripes
Goal: Cause 50,000 points of damage in a day
Reward: 1 Day Premium Account
Conditions Random Battles only. Once per day. A day is from 06:10 to 06:00 CET (GMT +1)   Weekend Mission: Heavy Steel Weekend
Goal: Deal 5,000 damage in one battle
Reward: 50,000 
Conditions: Random battles only. Using heavy tanks only (premium heavies included)   *Until Saturday morning*
Weekly Mission 1
Goal: Destroy 50 Soviet vehicles
Reward: 250,000
Conditions: Random battles only. Tier restriction: IV and above. Once per account   Weekly Mission 2
Goal: Obtain the Confederate Medal and destroy at least 2 enemy vehicles in one battle
Reward: 10 Large Repair Kits (100,000 credits value)
Conditions: Random battles only. Tier restriction: IV and above. You can receive the reward each time you complete the goal.   Weekly Mission 3
Goal: Be one of the top 3 damage dealers on your team
Reward: 15,000
Conditions: Random battles only. Tier restriction: IV and above. You can receive the reward each time you complete the goal.   With the addition of daily/weekly/weekend/monthly missions it means the bonuses and discounts sometimes need to be scaled back. Please remember the bigger picture and all the other stuff that is happening at the same time.  

View Postdeveen23, on 12 December 2013 - 04:53 PM, said: Is Friday 06:10 - Monday 06:00 the format we'll be getting from now on for the specials?

Ectar:   The date is correct because there is another special starting on Monday.    

View Postkikox, on 12 December 2013 - 05:09 PM, said: Several scientific studies show that the world will indeed explode if WG makes more deals with tier 8 and above.   Thank you WG for saving the world. We owe you.:medal:

Ectar:   Imagine the madness that would happen if we did that. We just can't have that happen kikox, I don't know if everyone is ready for it yet.


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