Developers posts on forum

Draschel: so even when someone visibly better speaks up, you just ignore it. Make new excuses. Talk more nonsense. It is not because you choose to, willingly. It is because you lack skills. Ability. Understanding. Comprehension. 

Draschel:  The following line, is from someone considerably more capable than you. This just proves my point.Well, to be honest, just ignore me for a second. And here we go, DISCUSS! 

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Draschel: You are making excuses. Far better players than you, are openly available and advocating the same thing. You are making excuses. You cannot use credibility, as you yourself play very poorly to begin with.I just told you. Excuses. And here we go, the ongoing plethora of excusesAnd I proved it. Patch 0.6.2.1 onwards until Pat 0.6.2.7 was without artillery  

Draschel: I think 60 degrees are enough. When I play things like Challenger, 416, SU130PM....I don't really ever realize that I don't have enough turret traverse.But grille current reach to sides isn't enough. Needs more than 50 

Draschel:  I do play how I want to play, what I want to play.But guess what professor, WG doesn't listen to me, you, him or her. And guess what, Arty gets nerfed. It gets nerfed alot. And I am sure its getting nerfed again. When? We will see.Think of all the times arty has been nerfed. In fact prior to 1.12, it wasn't even 1 year. At those exact points, did (you) think arty would be due for even more nerfs, in the future? Guess what.Just saying, as I mentioned above, stop crying about arty nerfs? There are other classes you can play. That don't need a game change. 

Draschel:  Ign is your relevancy check? Are you trying to be a comedian?Irrelevant. Tanks can equip howitzers. Means nothing. 0.6.2.1 had people running around with A32, M4E4, Mutant 6, and the limited tech trees at the time. 0.6.2.7 introduced arta.  

Draschel:  You are the most toxic of all. I had one conversation with you, and it was horrible. Wide range of stats,  lol.  Look at your own stats. Cybers good stuff, understanding guy, but man oh man, I wouldn't wish you on anyone. 

Draschel:  The people who simply can't stand WGs continuous arty nerfing, in any way or form, should maybe give other classes a try. Other classes tend not to receive as much negative attention and nerfing in this respect. Teams are also more cohesive this way, as formerly outlier, disconnected arty player is replaced by more interactive team member. So, in one stroke it solves two of the loudest complaints and absurdities in WoT. No downsides. 

Draschel: I agree. They should kill the class, instead of nerfing it continually. Annual arty nerf, the more I think of it  But I do have to say, for people not to lose their work, crews, assets -- just turn them into new tank destroyers. Problem solved. Buff their HP, view range, dispersion stats, accuracy. Change their damage to match tank class values. Heck, WG just gave them normal high pen ammunition that doesn't need re-balancing that they can use as premium.  

Draschel: Artillery came into the game, I believe 0.6.2.7.  This initial tech tree went to SU-8, GW Panther. People were allowed to pre-order, and shortly thereafter play M6AE1 mutant heavies, @ 0.6.2.1. I was mistaken about the other 2 though, Lowe and KV5 hit 0.6.4.00.But then again, M4E24 and A32 were allowed for purchase and play, just as Mutant 6 was 0.6.2.1So naturally, while not alot of time actually elapsed between the game being played 2010 and artillery's very early release and eventual progression - the game wasn't out there INITIALLY, with SPGs.  

Draschel:  Then simply watch skill4ltu and quickybaby reviews on what playing artillery is all about.Why even bother listening to me, or anyone else here. You want credibility?5 years ago, you could watch Anfield and Sirfochs saying the same thing.What do you want to hear, exactly? 11,000 PR players, saying the same thing.No, artillery will not do great damage and get ridiculous scores, win rates. Yes, artillery is quite helpless on its own and entirely team/map dependent. But yes, artillery is extremely easy to play and operates outside of games normal conventions, and allows anyone to reasonably contribute, even against the greatest of opposition tanks and/or players individual level, no matter the SPG players efficacy in other classes. This is the biggest problem. Artillery is not over-powered, it is broken. I invite you, to go take a look at simple, easily found youtuber content, of what excellent players with considerable personal rating, cross class performance, experience - have to say about artillery.  You will find other excuses. Arty players always do. Oh, re-roll. Then someone with heavenly stats thats insane at every facet of the game, W/R, WN8, PR, DPG, ACE badges, 3-MOEs that you can clearly see, speaks up, Oh all you play is meds. Oh, all you do is shoot premium shells and run bonds equipment. Oh, all you do is platoon with others to carry you. Frankly, you people are full of excuses, denial, and idiocy. You have no credibility, so you cannot speak of credibility. You do not understand world of tanks in general, and least of all have no notions of credibility.  Forward observers, generally aren't the ones spotting. Unless they are situationally positional light tank or something like E25. Forward observers like Chieftain, kran wan, STB1, M48A tend to absorb most the artillery fire. Not the TD in the back in hiding, camping, or light tanks. You know nothing of the game at all. I invite you, to send messages to excellent artillery players. They exist out there, sure. That Ted_ guy, from Mahou. He has done many, many, many CW campaigns using arty, and has 3-marked many. _xrays, has GC and M53 3-marked too. You want to hear from EU? Approach that guy, Dr_Nix. All will tell you what artillery is all about, its strong points, its limitations, and how it is extremely different and not at all representative of the rest of the games classes.    

Einzelganger7:
Indeed, the event had its own website and was a bit confusing starting by the fact we had to activate missions and once they were completed we needed to activate another one and so on. https://worldoftanks...hway-rock-0721/

Einzelganger7:
They just gave it for free during July by grinding points on the Highway Rock Encore event (the Borsig 3D style was available as well).

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Draschel:  I believe these are enough. What we want to accomplish, is not to have a TD playing like a medium tank. What we want, is a more pleasant grille experience. Look at what happened to Hellcat, FV4005. Same goes with WG reluctance, to have TD serving as heavies. Which is why they couple extremely bad soft stats to things like Badger, 110E4 - and eventually nerfed object 268 V4.  1 gun depression, 50 horsepower, 3 base camo, 10 arc degrees, 5km/hr reverse, 13mm HE pen, HEAT velocity aren't game-breaking or meta altering. 

Draschel:  I played lots of arty, pre 9.17. Stopped with their damage changes and stun mechanics. Won't continue, because arty absolutely tanks PR and WN8. Not worth my time.Nowadays, I grind M40/43 in frontlines. When finished, I will do Lorraine in FL. When finished, I will do M53/55, Bat Chat 155, 212A in FL. Then I have 4 tier 10 SPG. Everything stated there was true. No classes are afforded the advantages artillery have. 

Draschel:  We are not here to talk about credibility. We are here to talk about content, game mechanics, classes, and performance within classes and translatable skill for each class.But if you want to bring up credibility, why not. I can post on an account, that differs substantially, and you will change your excuses to something else. That is how you people function.Furthermore, why bring up credibility, when you completely lack credibility of your own. And whatever content you have to post is just awful. Do you not see your own service rec? I have told you again, go through the patch numbers and listed history. People were placing orders, testing Mutant 6 heavy tanks, before the game had arty tech trees. The first artillery patch arrived, and people already had Lowe tanks, KV5 tanks before. Not sure the exact step that was, 0.6.12? Something like that. Arty does not remove out enemy from camped hiding. This is fallacy. It causes it. For every 1 blind shot or arty received splash from someone cowering, hiding - arty shoots at forward spotted targets instead 15 times more. You lack world of tanks experience, it is plainly seen from the content you post. What good would it be even if someone would 10K PR rating told you something. Your excuses would just change. Why is this the case? Because the people, streamers, players, leaders we already know already advocate, preach artillery is like this. Broken. Your entire post is ignorance, and no means to know end. And WG understands this fully, that is why they nerf the crap of arty every 8 months? Arty is a punching bag that WG doesn't know what to do with, except punch it around now and then 

Draschel:  what about the failed mutiny and coup d -etat storyline. We didn't get to see any of that? I have always wondered, what the movie would have been like if Maximus came into Rome with loyal Roman legions, had another mass battle like the intro opening, only to succeed and get mortally injured, and prior to passing give Rome back to Gracchus, Graius, Cicero, Falco.   

Draschel: When one really down and dirty, examines the problems with Grille, alot can be learned and explained. The vehicle is a living contrast. - great accuracy, aim-time...horrendously balanced and evened out by ridiculous, SPG level dispersion stats. Any type of movement blooms your gun like an arta- great horsepower, top speed...again horrendously balanced and evened out by ridiculous terrain mobility which are falsely represented, bad track traverse, mediocre reverse I can see why these changes were implemented long ago, it is at the time where fast heavy tanks like WZ11111111115A, 277 did not exist, and 113, IS7, 260 were still pre-buff and not so effective. Medium tanks like STB1, 140, Leopard, 121 were also pre-buff, and 430U was not around. No EBR105 of course, or any EBR for that matter. When you account for all these factors, and look at the specified pre-nerf grille, yes it had propensity to be quite dangerous and be quite aggressive, like pre-nerf hellcat playing like a medium tank. Or pre-nerf FV4005, being able to be more aggressive and find more shot-opportunity. However, as can be plainly seen we are present not past, and aforementioned stuff has come to pass, Grille is certainly out of its element. Even with its former self, it could not compete in its old role due to new game meta, and speed everywhere. Why not return Grille to its former self and even add a few too?  - Increase horsepower to old engine of 900. Increase to old reverse cap of 20, add track pivot of 30º for overall mobility increase. - Increase muzzle velocity of HEAT to 1,145m/s. HE pen should be 88mm, comparable at least to E100. -8º gun depression, and forward arc increased to 60º- Improve camo to 10.89. That is the camo of Ferdinand. You mean to to me, a vehicle Ferdinand size, is afforded more camo than Grille?

DeviouslyCursed:  Well, I also don't have an issue with people who are bad sharing the win xp. Keep in mind, it's all those 0 dmg players on your team that lets you gets those 5-6K+ dmg games.

Jaguarz: I wiped wargamings cookies then it went away next time I accepted

1LT_Dwayne: The first battle i played had bots and for the next 20 or so there were none. I can't really complain I was just surprised that they added bots. And nice story btw but one thing i can say about weed is it killed my motivation for almost everything I wanted to do so I stopped taking it.

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DeviouslyCursed:  This is wrong. You have no idea if they contributed or not. Back when I had XVM, map was cliff. I had my Cent I or Cent 7/1, can't remember which. We had a purple in a T62A.  Start of map we went to take and hold the West part of Center, that overlooks valley, the most important spot to hold. He pulled out, took a shot, and got tracked, he repaired and started to back up and got tracked again. There were two arty on the map and I knew instantly what was about to happen. I slid my Cent right up beside his, pushing him a little bit more broadside but completely covered by my Cent, and SMACK - SMACK! Two arty shells obliterated my tank. I died with 0 damage and basically "no contribution," but the T62A didn't take any damage from the arties. The T62A went on to get over 5K dmg and carried a close game. Technically I did nothing from a end game stats point of view. But make no mistake: I won that game for us, just as much as the T62A did. Guy messaged me after the game and thanking me, acknowledging I won the map because of that move despite being either bottom or next to last in xp with 0 dmg. Do the bottom people do things like that a lot? No. But it doesn't matter, a win is a win. DISCLAIMER: This was on my main, Eagle5, before someone points out I don't have those tanks on this account. And back then I was blue, so sacrificing myself to attempt to save a purple was risky. But he was also higher tier. It's crazy all that went through my mind in about .5 seconds when I was deciding whether to help or not.

DeviouslyCursed:  The primary consideration should be if you win or lose. We don't need the toxic game play from Ranked invading Random. It's already difficult enough to get players to play for the team and the win, we don't need selfish game play rewarded.

TeriyakiTanker: That would ruin the game and really isnt a good idea.  About the only thing you could do would be to give the worst players on a team no EXP but if you took away silver I would think most people wouldn't be able to play the game.

Jaguarz:  High risk plays yield large rewards if they pan out, not every "good" player sits at the red line waiting for team to die to pad damage and an8

1LT_Dwayne: Why do you play this game when you're tired? There are plenty of games that don't requires high level of mental. When I'm tired I go play red dead redemption for exemple and I have to add that when I'm talking about low tier I mean tier 1-4. The level of play there is really low and I'm pretty sure anyone can have a couple of good battles here and there. Anyway I fixed my problem. I'll only play low tier on friday night.

TeriyakiTanker: Thanks, that worked.  I changed my graphic settings to ultra and it changed it.

TeriyakiTanker: Some streamers have their daily missions displayed in their garage so that it shows the requirements right on the screen in the garage instead of just the icon for them.  Is this a mod or something that can be changed without using mods?

Draschel: There are bad chieftain and 279E drivers out there. You seem them, 2,500 DPG. But you look at their super conqueror, or 705A or IS7 - and you see like 1,800. This is an obvious failing in terms of balance, I agree. No one said anything about dealing lots of damage in an artillery. People, well the one's for wiser, just kno it is easier to do so with less effort spent per point. Your bat chat 25 does 1,800. Your bat chat does 1,200. That is 2/3rd the capacity. But you play your bat chat FAR MORE STRENUOSLY, than the artillery. For all we know, at least in my experience, both playing them and seeing content from creators, it isn't 66% of the effort for 66% of the damage.....Think more of 20% the effort. 66% the result. That ratio...And don't leave out assistance. I think tracking / stun tends to be more than tank category spotting / tracking Bat Chat arty needs some love. They need to return ventilation to lorraine, lorraine 2.0, 155, and 158. 158 needs the 4-shot drum back, 155 can be the 3-shotBring back the M46 suspension with bat chat 155 turret as tier 9 premium artillery, 2-shot drum. And let the game rage on. 

Draschel: and it is funny, what you say is a balanced tank. Hilarious. Because without 907, without chieftain, without 279E, and when 260 was mediocre? Meta was full of complaints, Maus too armored! Too much HP. Type 5 unfair derp gun! Super conqueror instantly replacing 113 / T110E5 I worked so hard for? Wth 110E5 cupola?140 too strong, why 140 buffs? Why release fast heavy to screw meta, like WZ1115A? What, who, why 268 V4 and 430U released as they were, and took so long for nerfing?What the.... Leopard with all those boons? Wth, why not AMX30 that way too?   Bad players, just do not understand the game. Like to think, pretend they do though. They speak of which what they do not know. You can't talk of balance, because you do not understand the scales of balance to begin with. World of tanks doesn't need the tier X examples, tier 6 examples, or of defender, progetto, bourrat, skorpion G or SU130PM, EBR75 or LT432 to throw balance out of whack. Because before those there were the other, go-to offenders that were crux and meta. The whole idea of you saying things are fine, balanced if 260, 279E, 907, VK7201, chieftain are suddenly gone - is laughable. More balanced? Sure I can see that, but how far does the notch shift on the weight scale towards balance, truly. Can people take out their AMX54, IS4, AMX30B, E50M, Cent AX, Sheridan for competition if and when, tier X reward vehicles are suddenly removed? No. Unless you want to lose. 

Draschel:  There is no strenuous combat in an artillery, unless you are last alive or the team allows a tank through. Even if inaccurate, bad dispersion, artillery is afforded the most time to aim, shoot in safety, and shots are not do-or-die like other classesArtillery are usually afforded more safety in base defensive guards, than other classes require. Artillery have bad camo, but generally hang out in pure forested areas, where Type 5 can even hideArtillery does not need to aim, know armor weakspots. Just shoot, hope you hit. Miss by 20ft? Deal damage and stun.Artillery is afforded the opportunity to damage enemies with obstacles in the way, well beyond 720m cap tanks have 

Draschel:  I agreed with you. I said those tanks were too strong. You seem to be leaving out though, that I did not also say, they would REPLICATE their performances if the tanks were removed. I simply said they would still dominate, just dominating with less DPG, spotting, W/R than with those ridiculous tanks. But make no mistake, they will still be there at the top, carrying battles with super conq, IS7, 430U, 268 V4. Have you seen Iyouxin grinding out tanks like 113? 140? Leopard? He does so 4,000+ consistent, with another 1,000 assisted. Would he do more in chieftain, 907? Yes, likely. But you aren't robbing people of this glory, if those tanks are taken away. They just kick a-- in whatever they are in. Except an artillery, because an overflow of skill doesn't solve artillery limits.  279E is a pretty dumb proof tank. But still needs more skill sets than artillery.   And again, and again, and again - the game didn't exist at the start, with artillery.People were buying Mutant 6, Lowe, KV5 before arty even were released.Artillery was released in a very early patch, up to tier 6 only. Before progressing   

DeviouslyCursed:  I agree, Maniac should be put in his place.

DeviouslyCursed: It's a shame that you are required to do every event, all the way through, every time.  ...oh wait.  EDIT:  We could go back to 9 years ago when there were no events, no missions, and once every two months you got a x3 weekend and that was considered a massive event.

Draschel:  As said countless times before, world of tanks did not start with artillery. They were added. Imagine when you play soccer, common 3-5-2 setup, the 3 guys in the back can do physical, tangible, effecting things to players with / near the ball Imagine hockey, where the players on the bench can physically, tangibly, effectually influence, assault the players on the ice with puck.Imagine any contest like this, where a third party long-reaching presence projects force, damage, area denial with an all-seeing virtual birds eye view A goalie works out extensively like any other, as an athlete himself. A goalie works on reflexes, injury prevention, muscle mass. They need great sight. Particularly, goalies with keen defensive sense, can help out their defenders in lacrosse/hockey/soccer by having intuition and acting quickly. Also, they can jump start offense with their plays such as soccer long-ball, and attempting plays while opposition is switching out (hockey line changes) I am not sure you know much of artillery, or soccer.    

DeviouslyCursed: Good lord, sort your end game results by xp, or dmg. The OCD in me is hating that screenshot.

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DeviouslyCursed:  I have tried to debate for 3 pages now, with no insults and no "trollish" behavior, and all I've gotten was insulted by the person who claims he doesn't insult people. But let's try it again Fifth post, no insults from me or "trollish" behavior. If the rigging is obvious, why do the people who claim rigging have different views on how it is rigged? It should be clear if it is obvious. Some say RNG rigged at the start to determine which team wins. At least one says rigged at the end once one team is winning. Some say rigged by MM by placing good players on one team. Some say rigged to produce streaks. Some say rigged to keep you at 50%. Some (like you I think, because you don't commit to anything precise) say it's rigged more individually. If it is so obvious, and so clear, why do the people who claim it's rigged not agree with each other? If it's so obvious, and you guys are just more observant than others, then you should all be on the same page. But you are not. What is your answer to that?   Side Note: Oh the irony of how Umkhulu's post is worded...

Jaguarz: I finished it just to take something for free with giving wargaming cash. Now I wont play for a while to compensate.

Draschel:  arty does not make the game harder. Artillery are low damage per game earners, that are far less threatening than many dangerous tanks out there. They are a frustration element. A single tank like chieftain, 260, 279E can earn 3x the lethality any single tier X artillery, and do it more consistent. This isn't a frustration element. This will kill you, and offers poor probability to damage it in return. Dealing with an overpowered tank is hard. Dealing with artillery, isn't.  Everyone complains about artillery because it is unbalanced, broken. You need to get your things right. 

Draschel: If anyone is spotted, they can be killed easily. Arty just tends to be the easiest. Artillery needs position. But it needs the least amount of positioning required. Most of the time sitting at base is fine. Frequently, all the moving artillery seeks to do, is either going into bushes beginning, or late game relocation maybe. Arty does have a difficult time hitting targets. But what accuracy doesn't tell us, is that how much shots artillery takes that lead to some damage?Missing the enemy tank by 6m and dealing 150 damage isn't a bad deal. Especially with the enemy tank crouched behind tall solid cover.Yes, arty can go all game without hitting someone. All game doing splash damage hits meters and meters away from the target.  Arty inaccuracy, long aim-time, bad dispersion are weighted in. Arty have the safest environment, most time available to aim Arty do not require speed really for their positioning, but rather only situationally for relocation late game Arty don't participate in team maneuvers or spotting. Its a force multiplier not a physical participant. Only spotting arty does is from heavy bush, which it does fine Arty is the single most nerfed class rightfully, because it is the single most broken, detached part of the game. And WG understands it.

Draschel: Winning is definitely preferred to losing? Sure However, the choice being asked here about which of the 2. I would rather lose and perform greatly, as much possibleThan win, and get that win doing little if anything. 

KRZYBooP: Thank you everyone for the good laugh!  You guys are amazing and I appreciate everyone's dedication to the game. I was late so I gave yall 5 instead of 3.  Happy long weekend! 

Draschel:  But TD frequently get spotted/shot in return for doing that.But TD need the position to do that, arty just lobs from afarBut TD can't shoot over obstacles, mountain ranges.But TD need to aim their shots arty just wants to hit.But TD really have to be paying attention to map circlesBut TD can go alongside pushes, sharing HP/Focus fire  it is a lucky arty hit, like 1 in 15. But the problem, these hits are free, without effort or real threat in return. 

Elias_K_Grodin: It's available on Amazon in a box set.https://www.amazon.c...s/dp/B002ZQENC8 In terms of streaming, it might only be available on Amazon EU if you have a good VPN/proxy setup.