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MrVic: Its late I am exhausted but 2 things I wanted to put out there.
1) HE rounds I think are massively overpowered vs heavy armored targets. AP should be the ammo for use on heavies not HE spam. I again witnessed HE rounds taking massive doing massive damage to me per shot 53 armor pen vs 120/130mm armor is insane to do 100%/80% damage AND causing a large number of Modules to become damaged.
Currently a 7.5cm L72 does no where near the damage a Hetzer does with a 10.5cm HE round lol I again witnessed numerous deaths to 3-4 shots from a HE rounds from small tanks and low armor pen (non SPG)
2) I am not saying anyone here does this, but I see way way to many tigers committing tactical suicide in a game. Sitting in the open plain as day attracting all the enemy fire of a whole team. SPG's opening up since they are not seeking cover. The biggest thing is I kill one in a KV-3 (I fair about 50/50 odds head on with a tiger armed with a long 8.8cm gun. This is mainly due to the tiger player not understanding his advantages over my KV-3 and in the end he plays to my strengths which is fine with me. Even with these horrid tactical choices its still a 50/50 duel usually. I will not tell people how to go about killing other types of tanks but I will give you a hint. Speed/Traverse/RoF I do enjoy watching players complain in a match the Tiger is horrid. In that match I watched a KV-3 with 100m and VK3601 with a 8.8cm 2 panzer IV's with long 7.5cms 1 hetzer with a 10.5cm a Stug with a 7.5 L72 and last but not least a Grille bomb him into dust over about 45secs. He was alone and everything above was shooting solely at him parked in the open. He then proceeded to state badly how bad his tank was...... The tank was fine in fact I thought he owe his tank an apology for putting it through something that he should of known was a bad idea. (he knew we all were in that valley prior to moving to attack us) Tho he still managed to take 75% of my life kill a Panzer IV and take the 3601 down to 14% life against all that firepower.
Side note on the comment that KV-1s get the 107mm all I have to say is a Bison can circle kite a KV-2 with the 107mm, at 100% crew its traverse speed is 15 degrees a second. Know your strengths and know your enemies and fight accordingly this will help immensely

MrVic: Its late I am exhausted but 2 things I wanted to put out there.

1) HE rounds I think are massively overpowered vs heavy armored targets.  AP should be the ammo for use on heavies not HE spam.  I again witnessed HE rounds taking massive doing massive damage to me per shot 53 armor pen vs 120/130mm armor is insane to do 100%/80% damage AND causing a large number of Modules to become damaged.
Currently a 7.5cm L72 does no where near the damage a Hetzer does with a 10.5cm HE round lol   I again witnessed numerous deaths to 3-4 shots from a HE rounds from small tanks and low armor pen (non SPG)

2) I am not saying anyone here does this, but I see way way to many tigers committing tactical suicide in a game.  Sitting in the open plain as day attracting all the enemy fire of a whole team.  SPG's opening up since they are not seeking cover. The biggest thing is I kill one in a KV-3 (I fair about 50/50 odds head on with a tiger armed with a long 8.8cm gun. This is mainly due to the tiger player not understanding his advantages over my KV-3 and in the end he plays to my strengths which is fine with me. Even with these horrid tactical choices its still a 50/50 duel usually. I will not tell people how to go about killing other types of tanks but I will give you a hint.  Speed/Traverse/RoF     I do enjoy watching players complain in a match the Tiger is horrid. In that match I watched a KV-3 with 100m and VK3601 with a 8.8cm 2 panzer IV's with long 7.5cms 1 hetzer with a 10.5cm a Stug with a 7.5 L72 and last but not least a Grille bomb him into dust over about 45secs.  He was alone and everything above was shooting solely at him parked in the open. He then proceeded to state badly how bad his tank was......  The tank was fine in fact I thought he owe his tank an apology for putting it through something that he should of known was a bad idea. (he knew we all were in that valley prior to moving to attack us) Tho he still managed to take 75% of my life kill a Panzer IV and take the 3601 down to 14% life against all that firepower.

Side note on the comment that KV-1s get the 107mm all I have to say is a Bison can circle kite a KV-2 with the 107mm, at 100% crew its traverse speed is 15 degrees a second.  Know your strengths and know your enemies and fight accordingly this will help immensely

MrVic: Its late I am exhausted but 2 things I wanted to put out there.

1) HE rounds I think are massively overpowered vs heavy armored targets.  AP should be the ammo for use on heavies not HE spam.  I again witnessed HE rounds taking massive doing massive damage to me per shot 53 armor pen vs 120/130mm armor is insane to do 100%/80% damage AND causing a large number of Modules to become damaged.
Currently a 7.5cm L72 does no where near the damage a Hetzer does with a 10.5cm HE round lol   I again witnessed numerous deaths to 3-4 shots from a HE rounds from small tanks and low armor pen (non SPG)

2) I am not saying anyone here does this, but I see way way to many tigers committing tactical suicide in a game.  Sitting in the open plain as day attracting all the enemy fire of a whole team.  SPG's opening up since they are not seeking cover. The biggest thing is I kill one in a KV-3 (I fair about 50/50 odds head on with a tiger armed with a long 8.8cm gun. This is mainly due to the tiger player not understanding his advantages over my KV-3 and in the end he plays to my strengths which is fine with me. Even with these horrid tactical choices its still a 50/50 duel usually. I will not tell people how to go about killing other types of tanks but I will give you a hint.  Speed/Traverse/RoF     I do enjoy watching players complain in a match the Tiger is horrid. In that match I watched a KV-3 with 100m and VK3601 with a 8.8cm 2 panzer IV's with long 7.5cms 1 hetzer with a 10.5cm a Stug with a 7.5 L72 and last but not least a Grille bomb him into dust over about 45secs.  He was alone and everything above was shooting solely at him parked in the open. He then proceeded to state badly how bad his tank was......  The tank was fine in fact I thought he owe his tank an apology for putting it through something that he should of known was a bad idea. (he knew we all were in that valley prior to moving to attack us) Tho he still managed to take 75% of my life kill a Panzer IV and take the 3601 down to 14% life against all that firepower.

Side note on the comment that KV-1s get the 107mm all I have to say is a Bison can circle kite a KV-2 with the 107mm, at 100% crew its traverse speed is 15 degrees a second.  Know your strengths and know your enemies and fight accordingly this will help immensely

merig00: hehehe

merig00: hehehe

MrVic: Yep that sums that up pretty well,
I'll tell ya the hardest thing to convey to many players tho is that getting the kill shot does not really equal more points in a match You get points for damage done whether or not you did the first damage or the last damage

MrVic: Yep that sums that up pretty well,
I'll tell ya the hardest thing to convey to many players tho is that getting the kill shot does not really equal more points in a match   You get points for damage done whether or not you did the first damage or the last damage

MrVic: Yep that sums that up pretty well,
I'll tell ya the hardest thing to convey to many players tho is that getting the kill shot does not really equal more points in a match   You get points for damage done whether or not you did the first damage or the last damage

MrVic: Aye I am more looking into its effectiveness being to high and superior to AP in almost all situations. More of gauging its effects and if they are to severe or not. I have a feeling this might be part of the issues people are seeming to have in regards to Heavy tank durability and SPG damage and last but not least some insane module damage to tanks on wild shots from some angles. Currently I think the in game values are applying to much damage to a tank and or module damage for the force of the round being used.
The HE rounds in WW2 vs the types of armor they impacted did not penetrate typically the force of the concussion wave would ripple through the steel and cause fragmentation and spawling of the inside of a armor plate. This caused fragments to in essence spray off the impact point into a tank killing/wounding crew and damaging systems without penetrating the outside section of the plating. But in that regard the heavier the armor the more kinetic force it can absorb due to their being a thicker plate of steel. This makes the force distribute more evenly as it travels through the plate much like distributing weight pushing down, but just at a faster velocity. This is also why tanks were built later on out of steel wielded joint for the most part. The M3 Lee and Grant were built with rivet construction methods. They found this to be a huge flaw since a impact force (concussion wave) would ripple through the plate and deplete its energy easier at the rivet locations causing them to snap off and bounce around the inside of a tank like bullets.

MrVic: You should probably check out these pictures of the World of Tanks site
http://game.worldoft...com/gallery/art

MrVic:
You should probably check out these pictures of the World of Tanks site   

http://game.worldoft...com/gallery/art

MrVic:
You should probably check out these pictures of the World of Tanks site   

http://game.worldoft...com/gallery/art

MrVic: I would like to commend the posters of this thread so far for keeping it civil and informative
+1 MrVic bonus points to you

MrVic: I would like to commend the posters of this thread so far for keeping it civil and informative
+1 MrVic bonus points to you

MrVic: I would like to commend the posters of this thread so far for keeping it civil and informative
+1 MrVic bonus points to you

MrVic: Yeah I had a B-7 run in front of my KV-3 tonight as I was moving forward... he estimated it wrong and got smashed lol

MrVic: Well I have run into a new SPG issue With people getting the larger SPG's and better crews now.... A slow moving heavy has a hard time moving out of their base or to cover fast enough to avoid being scouted by lights and SPG shelled dead in 30secs at the start of a match. MY KV-3 had this unfortunate experience tonight a few times.
Going full out to escape to cover I never made it and died to the SPG's after being scouted. Since I move slow and I am a large target, combined with they can 1-2 shot a KV-3 its impossible to miss with a 100% crew. Its a sad day when you don't even make it out of the circle of your own flag due to SPG fire.

MrVic: The new big issue is getting spotted on some maps before you can even escape your spawning area and dying to SPG's and Direct fire within 30secs of a match start.
I have had a number of games in the last few days where at full speed I could not get to cover from direct fire and SPG fire, fast enough to actually live to see outside
the deployment area. This is a big concern thats rearer its head for me.

MrVic: The new big issue is getting spotted on some maps before you can even escape your spawning area and dying to SPG's and Direct fire within 30secs of a match start.
I have had a number of games in the last few days where at full speed I could not get to cover from direct fire and SPG fire, fast enough to actually live to see outside
the deployment area. This is a big concern thats rearer its head for me.

MrVic: The new big issue is getting spotted on some maps before you can even escape your spawning area and dying to SPG's and Direct fire within 30secs of a match start.
I have had a number of games in the last few days where at full speed I could not get to cover from direct fire and SPG fire, fast enough to actually live to see outside
the deployment area. This is a big concern thats rearer its head for me.

MrVic: I think you misread that from my post. Bane = bad for me. They kill me faster then AP rounds. I had a recent test with a clan mate taking 25% of my hitpoints with a 10.5cm HE round with 53mm pen vs 100armor and 120 armor facing, they also took out 1-4 modules per hit usually also. I also had a short 7.5cm with HE 4 shot me with a shallow angle (near a 20 degree slope his shots were impacting and taking massive hitpoints on each. When its pen is at 38mm vs 20 degree slope at 100mm doing massive moduel and HP damage.

MrVic:
I think you misread that from my post.  Bane = bad for me.  They kill me faster then AP rounds.  I had a recent test with a clan mate taking 25% of my hitpoints with a 10.5cm HE round with 53mm pen vs 100armor and 120 armor facing, they also took out 1-4 modules per hit usually also.  I also had a short 7.5cm with HE 4 shot me with a shallow angle (near a 20 degree slope his shots were impacting and taking massive hitpoints on each. When its pen is at 38mm vs 20 degree slope at 100mm doing massive moduel and HP damage.

MrVic:
I think you misread that from my post.  Bane = bad for me.  They kill me faster then AP rounds.  I had a recent test with a clan mate taking 25% of my hitpoints with a 10.5cm HE round with 53mm pen vs 100armor and 120 armor facing, they also took out 1-4 modules per hit usually also.  I also had a short 7.5cm with HE 4 shot me with a shallow angle (near a 20 degree slope his shots were impacting and taking massive hitpoints on each. When its pen is at 38mm vs 20 degree slope at 100mm doing massive moduel and HP damage.

MrVic: So after some testing with Clan mates the HE rounds are really out of wack. I never realized how badly until tonight.
53mm pen HE rounds vs 100mm and 120mm armor facings were doing 25% hitpoint damange to me and taking out modules left and right
I was killed in 4 shots from only a 10.5cm HE round. Then later a Panzer III shooting at a 20 degree angle on my side with a stub 7.5cm HE rounds
took 35% out of a KV-3 on the side with shallow angle. He then killed me in 3 more shots to the side at a 20 degree angle with HE rounds.
He was a clanmate and accounted for every shot. KV-3 dead to HE rounds that easily is broken. Combined with the issue of losing crew tracks turret radio ect ect
For the icing on the cake I had a panzer II with a 20mm take out my tracks non stop so I could not move and was taking hitpoints off me rather fast. he took out 100+
hitpoints by himself..... to the front mind you. (granted not HE rounds but still kinda funny)

MrVic: Getting spotted is a team thing. It happens regardless if your in a T-46 or a Tiger its just that your a priority target since your in one of the biggest tanks in each match.
This causes you to be a target priority. Careful advances and Teams working with you not hiding behind you is the key to success for many heavies.
Also the HE rounds are the biggest bane right now to damage done and Module damage is starting to show it self as out of wack. This is more then likely whats causing many of the early module hits I think. I have been testing this with my KV-3 and its showing true.

MrVic:
Getting spotted is a team thing. It happens regardless if your in a T-46 or a Tiger  its just that your a priority target since your in one of the biggest tanks in each match.
This causes you to be a target priority.  Careful advances and Teams working with you not hiding behind you is the key to success for many heavies.

Also the HE rounds are the biggest bane right now to damage done and Module damage is starting to show it self as out of wack.  This is more then likely whats causing many of the early module hits I think.  I have been testing this with my KV-3  and its showing true.

MrVic:
Getting spotted is a team thing. It happens regardless if your in a T-46 or a Tiger  its just that your a priority target since your in one of the biggest tanks in each match.
This causes you to be a target priority.  Careful advances and Teams working with you not hiding behind you is the key to success for many heavies.

Also the HE rounds are the biggest bane right now to damage done and Module damage is starting to show it self as out of wack.  This is more then likely whats causing many of the early module hits I think.  I have been testing this with my KV-3  and its showing true.

MrVic: Well after screwing up and selling my 100% crew.. its still fun to play my KV-2 KV-3 the big thing to remember I think is even tho your a heavy tank its more about being durable not near invincible. Even in WW2 Tigers lost their ability to "storm" the enemy positions. It was seen as near indestructible since it was such a great weapon on defense. Armor to shrug off a lot of guns at the time of its design. It was a field tank setup to long range control a battle. I see soo many Tiger players head on charging enemies and TD's. This is a mistake usually, you advance cautiously. Once you work up your tatics its not to bad. The SPG 2 shot hits is horrid tho. You get spotted and your dead since you move to slow to escape.
Otherwise I think their really durable if played well and supported
Altho HE rounds need some adjusting for sure.

MrVic: Well after screwing up and selling my 100% crew..  its still fun to play my KV-2 KV-3 the big thing to remember I think is even tho your a heavy tank its more about being durable not near invincible. Even in WW2 Tigers lost their ability to "storm" the enemy positions.  It was seen as near indestructible since it was such a great weapon on defense.  Armor to shrug off a lot of guns at the time of its design.  It was a field tank setup to long range control a battle.  I see soo many Tiger players head on charging enemies and TD's. This is a mistake usually, you advance cautiously.  Once you work up your tatics its not to bad. The SPG 2 shot hits is horrid tho.  You get spotted and your dead since you move to slow to escape.

Otherwise I think their really durable if played well and supported

Altho HE rounds need some adjusting for sure.

MrVic: Well after screwing up and selling my 100% crew..  its still fun to play my KV-2 KV-3 the big thing to remember I think is even tho your a heavy tank its more about being durable not near invincible. Even in WW2 Tigers lost their ability to "storm" the enemy positions.  It was seen as near indestructible since it was such a great weapon on defense.  Armor to shrug off a lot of guns at the time of its design.  It was a field tank setup to long range control a battle.  I see soo many Tiger players head on charging enemies and TD's. This is a mistake usually, you advance cautiously.  Once you work up your tatics its not to bad. The SPG 2 shot hits is horrid tho.  You get spotted and your dead since you move to slow to escape.

Otherwise I think their really durable if played well and supported

Altho HE rounds need some adjusting for sure.

MrVic: Hehe that should do it

merig00: I would also add the new Light Tank video that was posted today. It's a great visual with some tips

merig00: I would also add the new Light Tank video that was posted today. It's a great visual with some tips

merig00: View range - in the stats of your turret
Signal range - in the stats of your radio

merig00: View range - in the stats of your turret
Signal range - in the stats of your radio

merig00: yes, just like any other module in the game.

merig00: yes, just like any other module in the game.

merig00: I don't think anyone in this beta got there yet. So it will take a while for reviews to come out. In the comments here find a comment by AlexandroVVA - he has some suggestions under the spoiler. Read them. He's an experienced WoT player knows what he is talking about.

merig00: I don't think anyone in this beta got there yet. So it will take a while for reviews to come out. In the comments here find a comment by AlexandroVVA - he has some suggestions under the spoiler. Read them. He's an experienced WoT player knows what he is talking about.

MrVic: The Panzer IV with upgraded turret (My clan calls them Bobblehead Panzer IV's) The turret is insanely armored, The upgrade bumps its armor rating way over the normal. Toss in the slopes on the turret help immensely. Your rounds could easily strike that big turret (especially if you were using auto aim)
I have bounced 107mm rounds off that turret many times, in haste to take a shot. The hardest thing I have found is picking where and when you engage a enemy tank or at least control that encounter as much as possible. TD's truly are snipers in the range hitting power and hiding. Just some options of what might of been the issue if not then just food for thought
I have recently perfected my 10.5cm Stug III one shot kills on Panzer IV's, Its hard to hit sometimes but man the results are enjoyable See if anyone can figure out where that spot is