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DeviouslyCursed

Does anyone still play this game?

30.08.2021 04:44:44

Subject: Does anyone still play this game?
Link on message: #12907301

Kefic, on Aug 29 2021 - 15:57, said: I was watching a bunch of videos of garbad a few months ago It wasn't that he was super good... it's that everyone else was super bad at the game. He'd get absolutely destroyed in today's game playing like he did.

DeviouslyCursed: You act like he wouldn't adjust to the game. I hate to tell you this, but as time goes on, all the best competitive players tend to move on to the next thing. Then all the new "best" players think they were better than what came before. Except, they aren't. Games that have maintained an e-sports presence may be an exception, such as LOL, DOTA 2, Counter-Srike, etc.

DeviouslyCursed

Does anyone still play this game?

30.08.2021 04:32:22

Subject: Does anyone still play this game?
Link on message: #12907297

pEEthug, on Aug 29 2021 - 12:44, said: Hey All, Just wondering if and why anyone still plays this game? It's been going downhill for many years and hit it's crescendo back before the Chaffee lost it's ridiculous (but supa-fun) turret. Every match plays out the same. The tech trees are basically homogeneous with some minor exceptions. Any tank with a unique play style is nerfed and forgotten. WG scams you with their strategy of making OP premium tanks, only to nerf them later or make them obsolete by introducing some other OP tank, at the behest of cry babies that want everything to be the same. Worthwhile competitive play rewards are a thing of the past. What's the point? They even NERFED the KV-5. Why!? It was already nerfed by default. It's weird people still play this.

DeviouslyCursed: I don't think this idiot has ever played this game. I bet he found someone's old account with which to post stupid things and troll the forums.

DeviouslyCursed

Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?

30.08.2021 04:13:20

Subject: Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?
Link on message: #12907284

Maniac57c, on Aug 29 2021 - 23:54, said: Dismiss me all you like. Mercy rolls are very real and every player in the game more than a week has seen it. Denying they happen simply makes you look like a shill

DeviouslyCursed: I was addressing the "more low rolls than high" part, not the mercy rolls. If by mercy rolls you mean just low rolls or bounces in general, I'm going to say "BS." If you mean the tank would have been destroyed, but it was close so the game rolled a saving throw and if it passed, the tank stays alive with 1 hp, that's a different thing. I was trying to keep track of the "1 hp left" times versus other numbers from 2-9, but I ran into an issue of simply noticing "1" more than the others when I was trying to keep track. 1 hp tanks stand out. 2-9 not as much. So while I was recording more "1 hp left" occurrences, I can't say for certain if it was just me missing the other numbers. This of course has to happen in mid to top tier. Low dmg auto guns in tiers 1-3 would throw it off. But when you have guns that do 300+ damage, having 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 hp left should all at the same frequency. I don't know of an easy way to check it unless there was data on damage for each shot somewhere. You can simply exclude HE, then see which numbers occur more often under 10, if any. If 1 damage kill shots are a lot more frequent than the other numbers up to 9, then that would indicate 1 hp left is occurring more often than random chance would allow, and would basically prove a "mercy save" system was in place. Now, that's still not giving any player an advantage, because if that was in effect, we'd all have that chance for it to work for us, and against us.

Draschel

About time they added tier 9 Premiums

30.08.2021 03:51:54

Subject: About time they added tier 9 Premiums
Link on message: #12907266

MMI_SPI, on Aug 30 2021 - 01:26, said: the road WG chose is one that I cannot follow nor support. Nothing will fix it now, it can only go downhill.

Draschel: We have been going downhill for 5 years now. It has been a steady ski-slalom, down, since 2016. Frankly, we can all only be here and surprised, flabbergasted, WG delayed doing this for so long.

DeviouslyCursed

Apophenia: aka "It's Rigged!"

30.08.2021 03:50:26

Subject: Apophenia: aka "It's Rigged!"
Link on message: #12907265

stryker105mm, on Aug 29 2021 - 22:36, said: which ever team is down on hp in the first 3 mins the RNG is worse for that team and shots that should pen bounce, or hit the dirt infront of you, its not all about wining its about the RNG in this game, and if your tank will or will not do damage from a to z, so that could be tracks, ammo racks, crew, or modules Why are players to dumb to see this, or they dont want to,

DeviouslyCursed: Why can't you realize that even with equal RNG, or even with no RNG at all, one side is still going to lose. They will also still subject to the snowball effects that cause landslides. It's like you think if RNG was removed, both teams would somehow win. And after 3 minutes, even with no RNG, you would still be able to tell who was going to win most battles. I always ask but just get deflections. But I will ask again: Why would WG need to program any type of system to manipulate RNG, when pure randomness will do exactly what everyone is crying about, such as pull people towards 50%, cause streaks both good and bad, and along with team size limit the maximum upper and lower win rates players can achieve. No manipulation is needed. EDIT: I removed the insult, b/c I'd rather people try to respond to this and not get distracted. It is difficult keeping people on task.

Draschel

Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?

30.08.2021 03:23:53

Subject: Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?
Link on message: #12907249

Maniac57c, on Aug 29 2021 - 23:54, said: Dismiss me all you like. Mercy rolls are very real and every player in the game more than a week has seen it. and claiming they more prevalent than normal based on

Draschel: He is right. You know, the guy is right. I can disagree with him 99 of 100 posts, his posts lol.... but I won't here. Mercy rolls, life saving throws, are very much a thing. You ever complain about M53 M55 hitting a target for 47 damage one time, then the next against the same tank is 427? Only thing is, when you dealt the 47, the guy had 50 HP left. You remember that stuff. All the time. And when you deal the 427 damage roll? It was inconsequential, the guy had full HP. It is how this game works. Big reason why HE changed

NeatoMan, on Aug 30 2021 - 00:10, said:

Draschel:

Draschel

HE changes have RUINED Derp Guns

30.08.2021 03:18:58

Subject: HE changes have RUINED Derp Guns
Link on message: #12907246

ElViejoMasZorro, on Aug 29 2021 - 07:36, said: Well then, either some rebalance needed in accuracy for aimed shots to actually get the target, or at least some other changes are needed. In fact there are several meds, than after press 2, right click and get free damage after free damage with less than 8 sec reload, while 183 has 22+ sec of reload. The same E75 you talk about or the maus gets its armor negated by pressing 2 in med tanks hitting the turret in the front, and you know the list goes on. Arties got hammer after hammer, for a long time, and I don't play them much, perhaps this last patch enforce them, and revive them. WG keeps doing big gameplay changes, and enforce invidual play vs team play, and that is a pity. A lot of changes that in the end favours just one type of tanks and its gameplay

Draschel: Since the dawn of time, WG has been trying to re-balance this sort of thing. Still, do this very day, it is an ongoing effort. There is no such thing as press 2 and click for free damage. No such thing. The clsoest thing was FV183 and 4005 before, with HESH. And now that is gone. If what you mean by press 2 and click for free damage as 330mm med tank HEAT, you are very very very very wrong. Obviously don't play high tier attentively, intuitively enough.I see 350 HEAT from 121B and VK7201 bounce all the time. A daily basis. And not even against tanks you would think, like 268 V 4 or Badger, but even milder things like IS7 / 113.

Draschel

STRV k P2w t9 gold tank coming friday

30.08.2021 03:12:58

Subject: STRV k P2w t9 gold tank coming friday
Link on message: #12907240

Jakeusp45, on Aug 29 2021 - 22:15, said: The only thing good about the tank is it can earn bonds. I earn way more credits in my Tier 8 Premiums.

Draschel: I agree on the earning. It is bound to being buffed though.It also has better matchmaker than most tier 8 premium tanks

Draschel

40TP Habicha not reaching top speed -- undamaged

30.08.2021 02:57:10

Subject: 40TP Habicha not reaching top speed -- undamaged
Link on message: #12907231

low_bidder, on Aug 28 2021 - 22:42, said: The 40TP Habicha does not reach it's rated top speed of 50 on a smooth asphalt surface when it's totally undamaged. Even starting on a small downhill asphalt surface the best I could reach was 43. Also using food with a 3.7 crew. Looks like I have again caught WOT with its pants down.All of the replies are missing the point. The specs say 50 and it's lucky to hit 43 on asphalt even with a slight down hill start. 4X turbos wouldn't make this tank go 50 if the programming is set to 43 max. I expect the tanks to live up the the published specifications. I expect the tanks to live up the the published specifications.

Draschel: Please, do not tell me you are regularly, this rigidly naïve. Please. The tank has a top speed, meaning a maximum speed it can attain and maintain on its own power. However, with a horsepower per tonne limitation of 11.20 (medium tanks tend to average 15-16HP/T) its drastically low for a 40,000kg medium tank, it will never achieve this top speed unless being pushed on hard paved surfaces, or going downhill on favorable slope. Seriously, tanks usually this vehicles weight, have engines more like 600-800 horsepower, not 450. As for representation and comprehension, its not for WG to list an ''''effective attainable level speed'''' statistic. That is for you to hypothesize, and learn to understand with experience, evaluating many attributes such as HP/T, terrain resistances, track traverse, weight. This isn't grade 3. Because the tank says 1,800 damage per minute, does it always mean every minute in your battle, you will be obtaining 1,800 damage firing off ammo? That is not how numerical quantity works in a physical, experienced scenario. There are plenty of factors which influence a statistic. Please, there is no room here for such naivety. 40 TP can have 105 gasoline, rations consumable, clutch braking, off road, BIA, Bonds ventilation, Bonds turbocharger, Grousers, ventilation direction - and it will still be f--- snail slow. AC4, PZ IV schmulturm, Thunderbolt, Chi-To, Firefly VC are all the exact same. Slow.

low_bidder, on Aug 29 2021 - 18:44, said:

Draschel:

low_bidder, on Aug 29 2021 - 18:45, said:

Draschel:

DeviouslyCursed

Apophenia: aka "It's Rigged!"

29.08.2021 22:53:01

Subject: Apophenia: aka "It's Rigged!"
Link on message: #12907093

Armodeus, on Aug 29 2021 - 19:42, said: The human subconscious can spot patterns on a level that is several orders of magnitude greater than the conscious mind. In fact, this pattern recognition process which creates neural pathways in the brain itself is present in all living creatures that have evolved beyond a simple brainstem to one extent or another. Without it, they would be unable to function due to the massive amount of sensory data entering awareness at any given moment. The deletion, distortion and generalization that happens at the subconscious level of humans makes this barrage of information manageable, but at the cost of sometimes creating recognition patterns that are inaccurate, which is where the concept of apophenia comes in. However, it's crucial to remember that apophenia is a side effect of the system, not the system itself. Put another way, we are wise to listen to our hunches, while keeping in mind the explanation of exactly what is wrong might be inaccurate. If someone feels like something is wrong, there very likely is something wrong, although the rational processes of the mind often fills in the data we don't have to make what's happening fit our model of the world. Over the years many people have expressed a feeling there's is something wrong with this game. They play other games, and compare those experiences to the one they have here both consciously and subconsciously. The actual theorizing exactly what is causing the feelings of unfairness is fueled by hidden stats and the infamous MM patent section outlining. Just because they can't give a detailed explanation of what's causing it, doesn't mean something isn't wrong with the game. Since the pattern here on this forum is to often drop the Dunning-Kruger as a response, let's get that one out of the way. I make a very respectable income working as a licensed, certified professional who helps people recognize and change their subconscious patterns, I've been studying and practicing this stuff for over 4 decades, and I've got a piece of paper from the highest officially recognized muckety mucks in the land that says I'm officially part of their club. (If your pattern recognition detects a bit of disregard for their gatekeeping process, congratulations it's working just fine. Sometimes you just have to jump through the required scholastic hoops to move beyond the outdated system.) This one falls fully in my wheelhouse.

DeviouslyCursed: Sure, sometimes the subconscious can do amazing things. On the other hand, there are people with lucky socks. You're appealing to popularity here. You also seem to not be taking in things already known about the human mind, such as its tendency to think random doesn't involved the streaks that random rolls actually produce. Or the mind's tendency to put agency where none exists. Confirmation bias. Yes, Dunning Kruger as well (ie people looking for a reason their stats don't reflect how good they just know they are, "something's wrong here!" ) You also messed up a part: if it feels like something is wrong, it is usually best to proceed as it something were wrong, especially if it has life altering implications. It is not always an indication, and certainly isn't proof, that something is actually wrong.

DeviouslyCursed

rigging of games,

29.08.2021 20:57:12

Subject: rigging of games,
Link on message: #12907025

POLIZEI110, on Aug 29 2021 - 18:49, said:
You are far from the only one who has noticed the RNG manipulation and MM stacking of teams...aka rigging of the matches. You can find countless videos on youtube that not only make these claims, but back them up with video proof. Years ago, most matches ended with 15-0 wins or loses over and over, the complaints where getting louder and louder, then some magic update came out and the most common outcome were 15-2 wins or loses, then another update and changed to 15-4 wins and loses. Ever notice not one single developer ever comes out and takes on the thousands of complaints in this forum?! When you post a thread such as this one, what you will see is the paid trolls and shills telling you, it's all in your head, they vote each other up giving you the impression that maybe it is really just in your head. Trust me, it's not, for War Gaming, it's all about the money and earning it as fast as they can. There are new premium tanks coming out every month, each more powerful then the next, so if you got suckered into buying one, hold on, it's gets a honeymoon period, then it gets silently nerfed, then it becomes a pile of junk.

DeviouslyCursed: How about you post links with all this proof... And before you post any of his stuff, Claus is a moron. I already went over one of his videos I was told had "excellent points" and tore it to shreds, and that was only the first 8 minutes of his exaggerated numbers and false claims.

DeviouslyCursed

rigging of games,

29.08.2021 20:53:48

Subject: rigging of games,
Link on message: #12907024

Clutch_Shot_007, on Aug 29 2021 - 18:12, said: I think it never ends because there's no way to really resolve the issue with high confidence with the available information. I'm agnostic on the issue, because without proof one way or the other, how can one be sure? So, it's one of those "You just have to make up your own damn mind" kind of things. But proof is a very high standard. I mean, no one can prove that smoking causes cancer in humans because of the confounding possibility that people who are predisposed to getting cancer may be those who choose to smoke. That's literally what stands in the way of proving it. Well, actually, a double blind randomized control study of humans would resolve it, but that doesn't exist and will probably never happen. That would be the gold standard of proof in that realm. Yet, do you believe smoking causes cancer, even though not everybody who smokes gets lung cancer? I do. Seemingly the majority of people now believe it. Most of the time we have to reach conclusions even if we don't have a rock solid proof.

DeviouslyCursed: Ah, the old "if you're not 100% certain, you can't know anything" fallacy. Most things in life are never 100% certainties. You could close your eyes and run across a busy street. What? Because some people make it you are going to conclude that closing your eyes and running across a busy street doesn't result in being injured or killed by vehicles? You're going to conclude that it's a safe activity because maybe the people who got hit were predisposed to getting hit by vehicles anyway?

DeviouslyCursed

Apophenia: aka "It's Rigged!"

29.08.2021 20:24:04

Subject: Apophenia: aka "It's Rigged!"
Link on message: #12907001

DeviouslyCursed: Apophenia is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. Simply put, humans are primed to see patterns and causation when there are none. It is safer and more beneficial to your survival if you perceive all the threats, including many that aren't actually there, than if you ignore one that was real and it ends you. Of course, this causes problems when you are trying to determine what is actually real. It's why data is far more important than "just knowing." If WoT MM or RNG is as rigged as the "It's Rigged!" crowd says it is, it should be fairly easy to collect enough data to show it. If it is so subtly rigged that it would take 1000s of battles to prove it, then I hate to tell you, but your mind isn't going to notice it. This is why no amount of personal testimony is going to "prove" any rigging. You are going to need data. Otherwise all you are doing is confirming Apophenia (and other cognitive biases, psychological errors, and logical fallacies), over and over again.

DeviouslyCursed

Why if i am literally PAYING MONEY for a premium account...

29.08.2021 19:51:23

Subject: Why if i am literally PAYING MONEY for a premium account...
Link on message: #12906978

DeviouslyCursed: Fun fact: Back in the day your tanks' average xp used to include the extra xp from prem account. They changed that a very long time ago though. Their month long missions for IS-6 and such also used to include xp from prem account, daily x2, and events such as x5 or weekend xp specials. They changed that after the T34 or the WZ-111. Can't remember which.

DeviouslyCursed

rigging of games,

29.08.2021 19:48:02

Subject: rigging of games,
Link on message: #12906976

NeatoMan, on Aug 29 2021 - 16:57, said: I think the super zoom reticle makes it seem like RNG has a bigger effect than it really does. I used to play with the super zoom disabled, but left it enabled when it was made the default sometime within the last year. Now my shots seem like they go all over the place, but what's really happening is that when I use super zoom, the targets appear WAY closer than they really are. Wide open fully aimed shots that look like a sure thing really aren't as sure as they look. I'm thinking of disabling it again. It will give me a more realistic expectation of what I'm shooting at.

DeviouslyCursed: Yeah, I turned that off too. It gives you a false sense of accuracy.

DeviouslyCursed

rigging of games,

29.08.2021 19:36:44

Subject: rigging of games,
Link on message: #12906963

Clutch_Shot_007, on Aug 29 2021 - 17:27, said: This type of "it can't be true if nobody has proven it is true" kind of argument always seems to come up in discussions about rigging. It's a double edged sword though, because one could equally ask for proof that the game isn't rigged. I don't think we'll ever see a proof that it's rigged or not rigged, because, AFAIK, the only party with access to *all* of the data is WG. Could it be proven one way or the other without access to *all* of the data? Well, yes, if the rigging was stupidly blatant (e.g. it was common for people to have 1000 losses in a row), but we're clearly not seeing that. So, if it's not blindingly obvious, then does that prove it doesn't exist? No, that's not a proof either. I agree that looking for proof is a sensible place to start, but if it turns out we can't even say how a real but sophisticated rigging could be detected with certainty, with the information available, then wouldn't you agree that demanding proof, one way or the other, is an impossibly high burden?

DeviouslyCursed: No, because only idiots ask for the negative to be proven in the situations where it is impossible to prove. For example: Prove fairies don't exist. Go ahead... I'm waiting. Fact is the complete absence of evidence for fairies is the proof you need to decide fairies don't exist, and to live your life accordingly. If the situation changes, then you change your mind and believe they exist. But do you know what does that? Not some reject saying "but you can't prove fairies don't exist!" No, what changes your mind is actual proof of the positive claim, that a fairies exist. I guess I better spell it out. What that means is unless the "it's rigged" crowd can present some actual evidence other than "it's obvious" then the only intelligent position to take is it's not rigged until proven otherwise. Because "it's obvious" most of the "it's rigged" crowd are missing a few marbles.

Draschel

STRV k P2w t9 gold tank coming friday

29.08.2021 14:09:45

Subject: STRV k P2w t9 gold tank coming friday
Link on message: #12906828

GSOR3301_AVR_FS, on Aug 29 2021 - 04:55, said: Tbh all it realistically needs is two buffs:

Draschel: Kran engine, Kran top speed20 gun elevation, 2.3 aim-time Would be fine with it. Doesn't push it into ridiculous tier.

DeviouslyCursed

second equipment slot

29.08.2021 10:29:53

Subject: second equipment slot
Link on message: #12906816

viawot, on Aug 29 2021 - 04:02, said: Field modifications:

Reset slot specialization

DeviouslyCursed: You don't understand. He thinks he needs to reset it to non-specialized. He is wrong, of course. But that's what he wants to do.

DeviouslyCursed

Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?

29.08.2021 10:27:32

Subject: Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?
Link on message: #12906815

Maniac57c, on Aug 29 2021 - 00:25, said: Thats what they tell us. The problem there is for each individual player, it never feels like you get as many good rolls as bad, and mostly we don't considering the game pits you against 29 other players each time. Even with true random rng, the game can and does easily influence which side does what with rng without ever breaking out of random probability. The way your team can't seem to pen anything, or gets a lot of bounces or those annoying 1hp left mercy rolls which allow the enemy to kill you. Especially when your normal roll is in the 400-450 range, and you hit him for 230 leaving that 1hp. Having 29 other people to pit you against each time allows everyone to get so many more bad rolls compared to good. And of course perception bias. But rng can easily make a giant difference again and again, and good or bad, the way RNG intrudes is why people get so upset at the mechanic. Good players might do better long term, but they suffer RNG even more than a bad player. They just mitigate it better. I prefer to worship Our Holy Mother of 1hp left mercy Shots. For she is a fickle goddess and makes me rage mightily

DeviouslyCursed: Do you have any evidence you get low rolls more than high? Keep in mind if you have something that shows overall shot damage, you have to account for kill shots usually doing less damage. If you don't have any evidence, it's just wild assertions, and can be dismissed with no evidence as well. So, appears random to me. Aaaaand you're done.

Einzelganger7

Show me your terrible team screenshots.

29.08.2021 09:23:51

Subject: Show me your terrible team screenshots.
Link on message: #12906813

Einzelganger7:

Draschel

Just how fast is a FV 215b?

29.08.2021 07:38:39

Subject: Just how fast is a FV 215b?
Link on message: #12906794

GSOR3301_AVR_FS, on Aug 29 2021 - 05:27, said: Eh, they seem pretty accurate enough to me, it explains why some mobility feels way worse than it should be at times and whatnot. With regards to the 215b as well, it's only like a 50hp difference so the p/w is still pretty close either way.

Draschel: Funny thing215B, Badger, Conqueror, Super conqueror, 7/1, FV4005 all have the same base 950 horserpower model. All have 'different' delivered (Nm)Nice job, WG. At any rate, if this so-called tested science is legitimate, WG could be in some very hot water.Premium tanks and stuff with un-true listed stats, that people buy with advertised stats. For example, a piece of crap like M4 thunderbolt. That is further crapped on

Draschel

HE changes have RUINED Derp Guns

29.08.2021 07:31:20

Subject: HE changes have RUINED Derp Guns
Link on message: #12906792

Draschel: Just run the long barrel 90mm? Great DPM, accuracy, handling, consistency. Its over 300 DPM the next light tank

Draschel

40TP Habicha not reaching top speed -- undamaged

29.08.2021 07:27:53

Subject: 40TP Habicha not reaching top speed -- undamaged
Link on message: #12906788

HolySt_Joseph, on Aug 28 2021 - 23:48, said: it shouldn't say 50 if it doesn't go 50 then...

Draschel: Tell me you are kidding me. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Draschel

Just how fast is a FV 215b?

29.08.2021 07:26:16

Subject: Just how fast is a FV 215b?
Link on message: #12906786

GSOR3301_AVR_FS, on Aug 29 2021 - 05:20, said: 34km/h top speed with 14.35p/w, before of course applying any equipment to the vehicle.

Draschel: I don't know how quick I will be to accept the updated, tested engine horsepower numbers. I don't know what is true or not.

Draschel

Just how fast is a FV 215b?

29.08.2021 07:15:36

Subject: Just how fast is a FV 215b?
Link on message: #12906780

Draschel: Its not really fast.Not really slow, but not fast either.Was your team all mauschen and E100?Then well, FV215B is P38 Lightning fast

Draschel

40TP Habicha not reaching top speed -- undamaged

29.08.2021 01:10:02

Subject: 40TP Habicha not reaching top speed -- undamaged
Link on message: #12906632

Draschel: Because it is slow as snail. Terrible HP/T for a tank weighing a hefty 40 tonnesWhat did you expect? Tanks that are in that kg class like VK3002, Bugi, KV1S have double horsepower

Draschel

HE changes have RUINED Derp Guns

29.08.2021 01:06:40

Subject: HE changes have RUINED Derp Guns
Link on message: #12906631

Draschel: Correct. But again as I have emphasized, the average player NA is 48.8%? And their efficiency is what, 1,400? This is the camp of player caliber, that simply seeks to hit the target. And deal whatever lotto max allows them too. If a pen, great. If not, whatever and hope it was free damage. 600 free damage is still great, especially if its a perfectly side scrape E75 on a corner. But we are talking the type of person, that runs outer camo, has all of -camo/BIA/firefighting/core skills/repairs- and runs bounty/bonds equp, and a ventilation directive, a mix of AP/HESH, already adding advantageous field mod. - these people only seek to garner a splashing hit on targets of opportunity. Like a ridiculous snap shot, or a wheely lucky hit, or an HE low health kill steal. Within battle conditions they are using the thought process they cannot waste a shot, or settle for a splash, and are OUT TO PEN SHOTS, for 1,100 or 1,700. Dealing 500 isn't acceptable, unless circumstances behind it led to it. The success to either FV183 or 4005, aren't really related to their attribute camo, consistency, presence. But rather to the map awareness, positioning, and luck. Much like KV2 and OI. Which makes them unpopular tanks to begin with amongst the competitive ranks, but extremely popular in average and fun enthusiasts.

Draschel

STRV K... Why not a medium?

29.08.2021 00:54:40

Subject: STRV K... Why not a medium?
Link on message: #12906629

Krampus___, on Aug 28 2021 - 13:07, said: I would have went for this tank if it was a medium. Why in the hell would I take a medium tank into Tier IX and take a Heavy Tank spot from my team. There's things like VKs and Objects that are heavies in Tier IX you know... and you want a medium tank to be matched up against that... k

Draschel: Really, the tank was improperly hyped. As a result of what most streamers anticipated, its very mediocre. Meh. It is a WG tactic, for others to come.And rightfully so, pioneer premium tanks in tier 8 were Meh, as well. Lowe, KV5, Mutant 6, Type 59 weren't strong. They relied solely on MM skew But all things considered, Strv K is not terrible. Not good, sure. But terrible, doubtful. A mix between an incompetent Phase 1, Cent 7/1, and Emil II. While you are not fast like kamp panzer and Concept 1, you certainly are faster than heavies like VK4502, E75, ST-I. The low DPM? Well, consider the DPMs of tanks like progetto, VK4502, Chen, 777 - and Strv is no stranger. My biggest complaint with the tank, seems to be the speed cap. Whereas Emil 1951 has 45, Strv has unfairly been capped to 40. I think 45km/hr would have done wonders for Strv, because with its tracks and HP/T, it is already agile.

DeviouslyCursed

Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?

29.08.2021 00:39:47

Subject: Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?
Link on message: #12906620

awildseaking, on Aug 28 2021 - 22:25, said: It's funny how many head in sand "this is how sudden death works" assertions occupy every single thread. Don't question MM, just accept. Games were less lopsided years ago even though they should have been more lopsided based on the flawed logic of your assertions. Back then, repair and medkits were single use, T1-6 tanks had less health and ammo, and MM was significantly different with no templates, +/3 (at one point +/-5) scout MM, vehicle weight system, etc.

DeviouslyCursed: Actually, it was rare to have 15-0 or 0-15 wins/losses because the +3 or +4 tier spread meant if the lowest tanks got spotted, they pretty much insta-died. I don't have data on how often it occurred back then, but it did seem to happen less. But I will admit I could be wrong. I just remember being low tier in those fights, and my goal was to stay out of the way and maybe get a shot or two of damage in before my tank exploded the instant an enemy looked at it. It didn't mean the battles were any less lopsided, it just meant there was easily killable chaff on each side.

DeviouslyCursed

second equipment slot

29.08.2021 00:11:00

Subject: second equipment slot
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MajorJoykill, on Aug 28 2021 - 21:48, said: yes i see that but just wanted to know is there a way to reset the second slot option to the way it was before. there is apparently no way in u.i., and really i dont understand why people insist on keeping this thread going with things that really are off topic. the only thing i can think is there are some people that have no real life.

DeviouslyCursed: There is no reason to reset it to blank, because its assignment does not have any effect if you're not using a piece of equipment that benefits from the slot. In other words, it acts like a blank slot already. The fact that you are still talking about trying to reset it to a blank slot indicates you have not learned ANYTHING from this thread. Also the fact that you don't understand what those two little purple chevrons mean on your vents strongly indicates you purchased that account. But just in case you didn't I will try to explain for you again. The indicator below the slot only lights up if you have a piece of equipment in the slot that is getting a benefit from the slot's specialty. The regular vents make the mobility slot light up, because they are getting a benefit. The Bond Vents (two purple chevrons) do not get a benefit, so the mobility light does not light up. The light itself does NOTHING for your tank. The only thing it does is boost the bonus of the piece of equipment in that slot. The light indicates whether the item is getting the bonus or not. It is the equipment's bonus that affects your tank. In other words, if you spend 200 bonds to take your bond vents off, and replaced them with regular vents, the light will come on again. But your tank will actually have less of a bonus if you do that. And btw, you getting snarky and insulting people who clearly know more than you do and are trying to help you, indicates you are a crappy person in rl. If you have any sense of dignity, you would apologize to anyone you insulted.

DeviouslyCursed

Is there seriously no damn way to get WOT to play replays from one patch ago?

28.08.2021 23:56:01

Subject: Is there seriously no damn way to get WOT to play replays from one patch ago?
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bake3020, on Aug 28 2021 - 15:08, said: It's just like so many things that WG does, half way.

DeviouslyCursed: And in typical fashion, you spout off without knowing what you are talking about. They opted for a replay that gives all the data for the match (or at least what your client had access to), and you can look around and see things you weren't looking at before. The replay is actually recreating the game environment. In order to do that, it needs the same game client the replay came from. If they had made it into a simple replay clip, you could always watch them, but you would only ever be able to see what your screen showed while you were recording. Similar to if you used a recorder of your own. Their replays are vastly superior to a lot of replay systems, but the result is the replaying client must be the same as the recording client.

DeviouslyCursed

second equipment slot

28.08.2021 23:35:53

Subject: second equipment slot
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MajorJoykill, on Aug 28 2021 - 20:36, said: i know when i got the tank heavies generally faster and after the hp boost from completing the feild mod, and the "special" vent. i would move past heavies. after i unlocked the second slot i am slower than the heavies again.

DeviouslyCursed:

MajorJoykill, on Aug 28 2021 - 20:48, said: now whos trolling lol i said in general no not the slowest heavies.

DeviouslyCursed:

MajorJoykill, on Aug 28 2021 - 20:58, said: lol doesnt change the noticeable differences trolls are now continuing the thread

DeviouslyCursed:

MajorJoykill, on Aug 28 2021 - 21:24, said: a slow medium lol. and now it is slower than the sp but was faster before the slot change

DeviouslyCursed: This is why people insist on a replay when some idiot spouts off about cheats or impossible things happening. Your tank wasn't faster before. There are all sorts of considerations. Were you going downhill in a tank that has trouble reaching it's top speed? Were you going uphill in a tank that can reach it's top speed easily and climb without losing speed while the heavies slowed down? Was there a terrain difference (one time on pavement, the other across rough terrain?) As far as not getting spotting damage: you do realize that if you see something, and someone else shoots it but they can see it too, you get 0 assist for that, right? Or that if someone else is lighting it and you just think you are, but you're not, you are going to get 0 credit for that situation too. There is absolutely no equipment set up that you can use that prevents you from getting assist credit. There seems to be a lot you don't understand about the game.

DeviouslyCursed

The next morning...

28.08.2021 23:20:39

Subject: The next morning...
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vectormoe, on Aug 28 2021 - 20:29, said: Agree. Static electricity is such a concern that every chair in the "operation" (Control Tower or Approach Control) must have a grounding device (usually a dragging bit of relatively small linked chain) that stays in constant contact with the floor. A few years back a controller walked the full length of the TRACON after getting his position assignment from the supervisor, apparently built-up a static charge from the walk, touched the headset jack receptacle (for dual-pronged 1/4&quot

and wiped out the comm panel for that position. No comms, landlines or frequencies available. The panel was blanker than my ex-wife's brain. vectormoe

DeviouslyCursed: I see your ex-wife's empty brain, and raise you an ex-wife that ran up 40K in credit card debt (60K by the time the divorce was final). But yeah, back in college I used to wrap a comforter/blanket around me when the dorm was cold. I lost so many papers due to the computer crashing. I eventually realized it only happened when the blanket was there. Well, you always had occasional crashes back then, but it was frequent with the blanket.

DeviouslyCursed

Is camping for the Northern team on Malinovka a valid strategy?

28.08.2021 23:13:15

Subject: Is camping for the Northern team on Malinovka a valid strategy?
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DeviouslyCursed: It's called Campinovka for a reason.

DeviouslyCursed

The next morning...

28.08.2021 21:13:50

Subject: The next morning...
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Kliphie_Reborn, on Aug 28 2021 - 19:11, said: Wait till they learn about Buffalo Wings

DeviouslyCursed: They should call them Buffalo Legs, but the real question is: where do they get all those tiny buffalo?

DeviouslyCursed

The next morning...

28.08.2021 21:09:40

Subject: The next morning...
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mrtanker58, on Aug 28 2021 - 18:43, said: There is no electricity in static electricity.

DeviouslyCursed: Buildup of electrons, whatever the hell it is. Ethier way, point is the same: it makes my headset speakers 'click.' Actually, I just looked it up, and electricity is either static (ie actual static) or dynamic (what your appliances use). So static is also electricity.

DeviouslyCursed

The next morning...

28.08.2021 20:26:06

Subject: The next morning...
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DeviouslyCursed: Always interesting to watch the last replay or two of matches you don't remember playing. I can't help but think "so this is what it's like being a low 40%'er..." Man I was playing really, really bad. On a side note, I literally just discovered that if I pet my cat with my headset on, when you touch their head/ears and you get that small static spike you can actually hear it 'click' in your headset. Which is a little concerning considering the static charge is in your hand and the cord and plug to the headset is no where near my hand or the cat. Weird. I'm guessing the electric discharge travels over your whole body even though we only feel it when it is concentrated at the point of contact, and it is somehow picked up by the headset. This was actually more interesting than my drunken stupor replays.

DeviouslyCursed

Should I Skip Work to Grind a Discount for Day 1 Purchase?

28.08.2021 19:40:38

Subject: Should I Skip Work to Grind a Discount for Day 1 Purchase?
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Projectile_Misfired, on Aug 27 2021 - 16:55, said: Well, I think you have your answer. No need to ask anyone else's advice. Let us know how far along you got on the discounts with your PTO.

DeviouslyCursed: Got through rank/tier 4, so 40% discount. Basically made it the cost of a normal tier 8 prem heavy by itself. I am reminded why I don't grind though. Win Rate takes a massive hit when you play past the point of really wanting to play. Probably won't do anything like that again.

KRZYBooP

Incoming! Winners for the Capturing Kursk contest!

28.08.2021 17:27:32

Subject: Incoming! Winners for the Capturing Kursk contest!
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KRZYBooP: Howdy Boom Jockeys! The long-awaited and delayed contest results are in. Digital Art:1st is the capturing Kursk video by Iksta101 2nd is a 3D creation of a Tank in TinkerCAD: Moomoo 770

Next is the Diorama1st: Glenstorm

2nd: JakeTheMystic

3rd: Gung_Holiness

Model Tanks section:1st: mangat0m

2nd: Hellcat_89

Tied for 2nd: Glenstorm

Tied for 2nd: killswitch95

The final tied for second entry: In-game Name: alphadeltaomega4ab

3rd place goes to: F4Phantom_gunner

Also tied for 3rd is: Lews_Kannon

Tied for 3rd is: OmegaGuy

Tied for 3rd as well: KIKOUPOWER

Sketch Category: 1st goes to both PanzerFaux, and Stretch35

Honorable Confection goes to: sharktank_rk

Draschel

Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?

28.08.2021 10:13:58

Subject: Rofl-Stomps. Are They Good for the Game?
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JakeTheMystic, on Aug 28 2021 - 06:19, said: If you bothered to read the next 3 words, you may have understood; "...in comp play", let me just spell it out as competitive for those in the back.

No, it's not just an exception either. I explained that steamrolls aren't isolated to just pubs, skirms, advances, and clan wars. Some people pin them on just bad players or uneven teams when it's really just a snowball effect, once it gets rolling it's a bit difficult to stop. While rofl-stomping bad teams is a lot more common, it's not impossible for a very good team to blow a huge lead because they stopped taking things seriously. Is it fun? No. It happens in every game and isn't something that can be completely avoided.

Draschel: Snowballs start from somewhere. WHY is there a snowball? A bad person yoloing, yoloing most common done in a fast tank. That's 1,400 HP for a tier 8. And s--- just continues downhill from there. Someone sees a yolo, and a bad person often wants to join in. There could be 1,400 more, now up to 2,800 or 4,200. and not just the detracted HP, but a robbery of a teams guns, and speed. While yes, the snowball effect is certainly in play, that initial clod of snow starts from somewhere / someone, which is very likely an early yolo from an incompetent clown. The other reason is failure to assess position (or know position) which often leads to victories (or defeat) in specified maps. For instance, teams placing huge amounts of forces in dumb flanks like Lakeville valley, Overlord beach, Cliff low road. But in reality, if the tanks that go these flanks these maps, are fortified with people that abandon the useful flank because they see their team is being potato - though still a loss these games can be very long, and certainly aren't a 15-3 farm simulator. Because you get a concentrated team effort, in a small vicinity - and although no map control they can be incredibly dangerous to approach, though not a winning strategy I repeat its really not how teams lose 15-3. Blowouts are due to incompetent people not being patient. Its where a clod of snow is formed, is tossed, gains traction and gains size and can't be stopped.



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