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Tanitha
NEW form of TEAMKILLING...
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05.01.2011 10:19:05
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\NEW form of TEAMKILLING...
Link on message: #342013

Quote WITHOUT firing a shot and getting in danger for banning !!

Tanitha: Just screenshot and report the same as you would a tker.
Regards. Tan..


Tanitha
Funniest whines in the game.
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05.01.2011 09:21:20
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Funniest whines in the game.
Link on message: #341916

View PostMadCat6669, on 05 January 2011 - 09:11 AM, said: 5. Balance sucks...

Tanitha: This one usually goes.
Tanker dies.
Whines about the balance all game / whines about the useless team all game / etc
And then team then wins 15/4 or something similar..
PS, whining about whiners, that has to be a win? : )


Tanitha
I got a suggestion for ya
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05.01.2011 08:17:57
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\I got a suggestion for ya
Link on message: #341794

View PostWraithed, on 05 January 2011 - 08:06 AM, said: STOP RESTARTING THE SERVER IN NORTH AMERICA DURING PRIME TIME!
How is that for a suggestion?

Tanitha: Its not a server for only USA players atm, its a server with a international player base.
After the server split into USA / euro things will probably be different, until then, don't make nonconstructive posts in caps please.
Locking.


Tanitha
Tier 9 mediums HP should be lowered
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05.01.2011 07:31:08
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Tier 9 mediums HP should be lowered
Link on message: #341703

Tanitha: A T54 nowhere near stacks up to a IS4 1v1. But they don't need to because they have a speed that is4's don't have.
Cap / defend cap / scout / mopping up smaller tanks.... It has other roles apart from a 1v1 skirmisher against other T9's.
Similarly the P2 doesn't stack up to the vk4502.
Sure the T9 mediums are great in packs, but a pack of 10 t54s will just get more stomped by a pack of 10 IS4's.
As proven by testing on some training competitions. 10 a side, over 12 games each side? I think it was, swap tanks at 1/2 time..
So...
Im not really sure where you are getting your figures from.
Anyway its nothing to do with the tech section, so locking.
If you would like to continue a discussion please post into one of the existing threads. You should find lots suitable in the vehicle comparison section.


MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #6
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05.01.2011 07:16:50
 
Subject: News from the Front\World of Tanks Newsletter\WoT Newsletter Volume #6
Link on message: #341679

View PostRedClaw42, on 05 January 2011 - 05:23 AM, said: MrVic,
One further question:
What's the current best guess ETA for the soft wipe? It's still happening, right?

MrVic: We should still see one, from how I understand it. But not for a good while from what I can tell.
Once good info comes out for it, i'll get it posted asap. But for now none in the near future.


MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #6
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05.01.2011 07:16:50
 
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #6
Link on message: #341679

View PostRedClaw42, on Jan 05 2011 - 04:23, said: MrVic,
One further question:
What's the current best guess ETA for the soft wipe?  It's still happening, right?

MrVic: We should still see one, from how I understand it. But not for a good while from what I can tell.
Once good info comes out for it, i'll get it posted asap. But for now none in the near future.


MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #6
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05.01.2011 07:16:50
 
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #6
Link on message: #341679

View PostRedClaw42, on Jan 05 2011 - 04:23, said: MrVic,
One further question:
What's the current best guess ETA for the soft wipe?  It's still happening, right?

MrVic: We should still see one, from how I understand it. But not for a good while from what I can tell.
Once good info comes out for it, i'll get it posted asap. But for now none in the near future.


MrVic
Russian Tanks, Belarus Devs
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05.01.2011 07:09:15
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Russian Tanks, Belarus Devs
Link on message: #341665

MrVic: Please refrain from continuing this trolling spree. Keep it civil.


Tanitha
New Player, Not Playing
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05.01.2011 06:13:53
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\New Player, Not Playing
Link on message: #341569

View PostLaiDragon, on 05 January 2011 - 05:42 AM, said: Look at the "survived" stat. 212 games, 28 survived. That's abysmal. Terrible beyond any and all belief. The reason I can't get any XP is because I don't live long enough to get a single damn thing done - I shoot AT someone, I die. I hide in the back, I die. I rush forward to discover the enemy and scout for artillery, I die. Whoopty-do.

Tanitha: Yeah I don't mean scouting "counts/marks" they goto the tank that scouts a target first. Light tanks used to be able to rush in, scout 8 tanks first, kill 1 arty before dieing 2 minutes into the game, a ton of exp and credits earned and move onto the next tank, and the scouts like leopards and PZIIIa's were played by vets as a huge cash cow. Scouting like this isnt as easy now, so now the cash and exp is in spotting for your bigger tanks while they kill the target. As halfik posts below. It has nothing to do with the scounting "count" of who scouted a tank first.

View Posthalfik, on 05 January 2011 - 05:48 AM, said: if you are playing scout (light tank) you have to cooperate with arti and other tanks. becouse only way to get good xp/cash is spoting target for your teammates. when you spot sth, lets say it is a IS3 and your arti or any other tank will hit that IS3 - you get 50% cash and guy that hit him, get other 50% cash - and you also get xp for that.
so you job is to spot 1-3 tanks and turn back, run away. you arti will shot - you have to wait till arti will reaload - and you are going to spot again and so on.
there is no other way to play light tanks :)
when you will have to play TD or HT that is on the bottom of teamlist - just stick with "big boys" - driver behind them and shot when enemy will show up. never driver alone or in 1st line if you are not in top5 in your team.

Tanitha: As he's posted, if you are the scout, and your arty hits or kills a tank, you are getting more exp than the hitter is. Because you both get 1/2 1/2, and you get more with being lower level. So you need to light up the tanks for your bigger tanks to snipe, and your arty to shoot, while avoiding their artillery in the process (rocks/buildings) trying to get a few shots in yourself.
30-40 games later, you are in a bigger tank.
I don't find survivability much of a issue, when i die, im playing another tank in a few seconds. I find its more about doing your part for the team, and then moving onto the next game. (when i want to grind quickly) when I've finished grinding and playing a tank i want to play, in between games, I casual watch the game until its finished now, no hurry or need to grind any more.


Tanitha
After the Beta?
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05.01.2011 05:33:42
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\After the Beta?
Link on message: #341510

Tanitha: Its released in Russia. Same version, so no wipes for them etc, they pay for stuff, etc..
Rest of the world is lucky with freebies until the game is fully finished.


Tanitha
best tier 5 vehicle
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05.01.2011 05:31:01
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\best tier 5 vehicle
Link on message: #341504

Tanitha: Ram II, fires quickly. 30 rpm.
Its hard for other tanks to fire back when you are hitting them every 2 seconds.


Tanitha
Australian Players
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05.01.2011 05:06:21
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Australian Players
Link on message: #341468

Tanitha: Hey Guys,
Firstly, world of tanks, among the best games I've ever played : Great concept, level design, matchmaking, gameplay.
Really solid programming. You have taken the time to think about what makes a game good and have done it and I'm very, very impressed.
My friend recently got me into the game. I didn't think much of it at first (as he tells me about a lot of sucky games) but I had one game of it and was hooked. We're both from Australia.
Welcome
A few points :
1. Is there going to be an Australian or Pacific server set up? The game is playable at the moment but am sitting on 250-300 ping.
Doubtful, there is a china server which is on west aus time zone. That would probably cover the Asians which are usually grouped onto Australian servers. But if there is a demand for it you never know.. There usually isnt the demand for it though, every aus server Ive ever played on has been dead, and only semi populated a few hours a day during east aus's prime time.
2. Are there many Australian players connecting on a day to day basis?
A few, check out panzacs clan. no i don't play there. I have a usa clan for clan wars.
3. Any other Australia tankers out there, reading this? Drop us a message and we'll look at sorting out a group. I've got 5-6 mates already into it so we can go from there.
As above check out panzacs in the clan section.
Thanks Guys,
Shultz
Have fun.


Tanitha
New Player, Not Playing
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05.01.2011 04:59:19
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\New Player, Not Playing
Link on message: #341458

Tanitha: Imo there's a combination of faults here, the game and light tanks (since warping was fixed recently), and a "learn to play" deal.
With the current light tanks problem, there was "warping" in game, So moving tanks didn't have their positions updated enough, so if they were at a distance they weren't really where they were meant to be. So light tanks then had a role of scouting, the PZIIIA's were good scouting tanks, With their speed they could get in, scout for your arty, kill the enemy arty, and get paid a lot in a short period of time. But since the warping was fixed, they are a lot easier for the bigger tanks to target, and snipe, so they aren't lasting as long, and scouting is a lot harder. Light tanks need buffing one way or another, to come back into their scouting roles.
As for the learn to play situation, There is many things that will make a player successful or not, and after only a few days playing, you probably aren't aware of these techniques yet, they come with experience.
Some of the basics are.
1. Tanks Armour is different everywhere. Auto aim aims at the turret which is usually the most defended section. you need to work out the enemy tanks weak spots and aim for them, often with "shift" and zoom enabled. Like manholes, machine gun ports, the hull and not the turret, etc. You also need to aim at flat spots on not angled spots etc.. Then you might start hitting/damaging more.. But still there is only so much a small gun can do, so if you cant penetrate a enemies Armour, there is always HE ammo, which usually damages without penetrating.
2. You can change your target reticule, so it displays penetration chance, green decent chance, orange iffy, red, probably not. This will help you learn where to aim.
3. You also need to pick your targets, if you are a small tank, you go after the enemies smaller tanks, and leave the bigger ones alone. Or anything can kill the enemy artillery, so they are always a good target.
4. No matter what tank you have, you will always be up against bigger tanks. unless you have a T10 heavy or something similar. Even then you will be matched up against another T10 heavy, so its still going to be balanced team wise. The main thing you need to realize and know is how exp and credits is paid. Its paid by comparing your tier/level to the tier/level of the tanks you are shooting. You get paid for damage not kills. So you doing 10% to a tank a lot bigger than you, probably will pay you a lot more than that tank will get for one shot killing you who is below their level. So really the higher your tier, the lower you will get paid. The most beneficial tier of tanks is about T5's. Also the person doing the damage isn't paid the credits, 1/2 is paid to the shooter, and 1/2 is paid to the spotter if the shooter cant spot the target themselves. So all you really need to do is camp at a rock near the enemy base, while you are scouting the enemy, and as the bigger tanks get paid their 1/2 for shooting, you get your 1/2 for scouting for them. + your level bonus for the level difference between you and whats killed.
5. another little point is don't sell all your tanks, so when you die, exit the battle, hop onto another tank, and play 3 games in the time you are currently playing 1 at the moment. 3x the profit will help speed things up, as long as you only work on upgrading one of them at a time.
Looking at your stats in game, they are pretty bad, 212 games and 156 average exp. Player stats are here for all to look at, so not like im leaking anything. http://game.worldoft...5325-LaiDragon/ The point is there is lots of room for improvement for you. The T28 you have atm, i averaged 350 exp a game in, and i only played it for 31 games before I dumped it for a bigger tank. They don't take long to obtain. Especially now while you are getting 500 free gold a day, that converts to 200k credits. Or you could save for 30 days premium for 2500 gold, but until you are getting your exp earned per game up a lot, premium is probably a bit of a waste at the lower levels, but you will need it soon if you play a bit... You should be zooming through these lower levels though a lot quicker than you are.
Asking in game chat what others earned in their T28 on average, they mostly were stating figures around 280exp a game average. Either way 30-40 games and you should be out of it.
So i played these. (on the medium russian line)
T34 387exp ave and 78 games
T34-85 423exp ave and 182 games
T43 566exp ave exp and 225 games
T44 625exp ave and I stayed with this tank for ages.
My average exp on these tanks is probably a bit low, because I didn't max them and play them while maxed, i just played them long enough to get to the next tank, so I wasn't playing in good maxed tanks.
So anyway keep at it, I hope the above helps you play better and get more enjoyment out of the game.
Regards /tan..


Tanitha
Losers Being Teamed With Losers?
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05.01.2011 03:45:43
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Losers Being Teamed With Losers?
Link on message: #341323

View Postenderoflives, on 05 January 2011 - 03:39 AM, said: As of late I have also noticed this trend,I personally believe that the good players are playing in companies and this is leaving a deficit of skilled players in random battles.

Tanitha:


Tanitha
Proposal
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05.01.2011 03:33:55
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Proposal
Link on message: #341305

Tanitha: Feel free to pm overlord, who might then be able to refer that onto the section who does keys, who then might organize their creation, and then forward them back to you via overlord etc etc etc etc. all going well you might get some keys "fairly" quickly and easily.
However if it was me, id just want the keys quickly without the delays.
You can get keys from mmo websites pretty much instantly, there is a list of providers here.
http://forum.worldof...available-here/
You could probably just get 10 keys, from 10 email addresses. and you can make email addresses quickly with http://hidemyass.com then
No registration or passwords, etc etc. takes 10 seconds to make a email address.
So yeah that way, ,all going well, you can probably download the game, install it on all 10 machines, and get 10 keys, all within an hour.
Regards.


Tanitha
Question about reporting team killing
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05.01.2011 03:18:34
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Question about reporting team killing
Link on message: #341269

View PostShireknight, on 05 January 2011 - 03:03 AM, said: Firstly I intended to ask this question to a moderator by PM but I can't find a way to tell if any are currently online or not, all I can see is who is responsible for the forum -is there a way to tell who's online at any given time?
Anyhow my question. I think I read in a thread Sunday (but I can't find it again now) a post from a moderator saying that only a victim can report someone for team killing, did I read that correctly because last weekend I recorded on fraps two guys boxing in and killing an allied artillery piece. Am I allowed to report that or would it be instantly void because I wasn't the victim please?

Tanitha: Hi shire.
On the main page you can click on mods, and it will show you what the mods are doing, like "reading page bla bla"
So you can pm one that's online if you like. Or I'm usually online.
Links here. http://forum.worldof...tats&do=leaders
With the Tk rule.
Its a little bit iffy at the moment, there is for example, two departments, Support and Moderators.
Support have their rules, but mods have input into them, and when they are complete and ready the rules are posted into the forums.
The rules for reporting of tk's etc, game chat, forums, etc all all getting worked on and reviewed at the moment. Because we "hopefully" will be swapping to new servers sooner or later, and a server split, which will probably end up resulting in swapping from closed to open beta, then or soon afterwards.
SO the new rules for everything, are mainly for the open beta swapover.
At the moment, I believe the new forum rules are done, but not being implemented by the mods yet, until they are posted officially.
The new in game rules (chat) are still being worked on and not ready. In game (tk) rules are currently probably going to be changed to "only the killed can report." + a few other minor tweaks.
But while we are between rules, I'd guess both reports from the killed, or other, is still acceptable.
I'll pm you the reply and close this thread. Since discussion on possible news rules, isnt really appropriate until they become official.
So I wouldn't want this to turn into a discussion..
Please also note that the time limit on reporting cases is 7 days. So don't leave it too long either if you wished to report it. The "only the killed can report" will be a better system, it will stop 10 players reporting the same tker each time.
Regards


Tanitha
Top Gun Award and Wittman's Medal is the same
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05.01.2011 03:04:41
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Top Gun Award and Wittman's Medal is the same
Link on message: #341234

View Postavada, on 05 January 2011 - 02:53 AM, said: There was a topic about Wittman's medal, says you should kill 7 enemy vehicles "4 tiers higher" than you.
And it is bugged.

Tanitha: Still seems kind of buggy. if you are t6 you need to kill 7 IS7/mouse/T30's etc.
Above T6, its not possible.
Even in low tier tanks, like say a T4, you usually aren't matched up with 7 T8+'s on the enemy side.
Even then a T4 would be pretty impossible to kill a T8, unless it got a killsteal / killing blow mind about 7 of them. (Unless it was a arty..)
..
Etc Etc. It could probably do with some suggestions for improvement imo.


Tanitha
Wikileaks and UFO
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05.01.2011 00:53:29
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Wikileaks and UFO
Link on message: #340977

Tanitha: Please keep the thread on topic and not let it drift to topics of religion and Israel etc.
If the topic of UFOs is now exhausted, I'll lock the thread.
If it can stay relatively on topic, all is good.


Tanitha
Clan pages
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05.01.2011 00:45:23
 
Subject: Fan Zone\World of Tanks Wiki\Clan pages
Link on message: #340957

View PostPeaceKeeper, on 02 January 2011 - 08:16 PM, said: but on wiki you shud put the list of current clans and other...

Tanitha: I do up the clan list on the forums, even that is probably a bad idea, its a lot of work with additions and alterations daily.
Unless you can grab a feed from the game, of clans in game that updates auto.


Tanitha
NDA question.
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05.01.2011 00:37:15
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\NDA question.
Link on message: #340935

View PostTempered, on 05 January 2011 - 12:30 AM, said: Just a quick question. Would I be allowed to set up a stream my in game play of world of tanks on sites such as ustream of justin.tv, or is there an NDA in place preventing the spread of media on the game since it is in beta?

Tanitha: Hi..
The NDA is a bit iffy atm IMO. Because we are kind of in between closed and open beta's at the moment.
I believe the NDA is still currently in place, but a lot of the usual restrictions and sections are now removed.
At the moment I think the main restriction is posts discussing the game, go into the closed beta section of the forum, and not into the public sections.
There is currently no restriction on video's and pictures from the EU/USA game.
There is restrictions on posting of he Russian game onto our forums.
Their is another post here, covering the same topic.
http://forum.worldof...live-streaming/
Sop I'll close this thread, and pm you the reply so you can find it.
Regards.


ARGO
M4 Sherman
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04.01.2011 22:45:38
 
Subject: Off-Topic Discussion\Historical Discussion\M4 Sherman
Link on message: #340652

ARGO: The true facts are pretty simple:
1. Comparing the M4 Sherman "Medium" to a Tiger "Heavy" is the equivalent to comparing a destroyer to a battleship. It is an unfair comparison for the Sherman.
2. The Sherman became famous due to it's own right and not due to it's killing prowess as the Tiger was.
3. The tiger became famous due to the 88mm and it's shear size and armour. If it had been equiped with a lesser gun it most likely would have just a footnote in history.


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:44:16
 
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Heavy Tanks\King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #340058

View PostVahal, on 04 January 2011 - 06:38 PM, said: Ok we will do some videos. Our point is not to create a monstrous KT, just to have possibility to have fun, fair, fights regardless the techtree we chose.

Overlord: This will help to sort things out.


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:44:16
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #340058

View PostVahal, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:38, said: Ok we will do some videos. Our point is not to create a monstrous KT, just to have possibility to have fun, fair, fights regardless the techtree we chose.

Overlord: This will help to sort things out.


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:44:16
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #340058

View PostVahal, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:38, said: Ok we will do some videos. Our point is not to create a monstrous KT, just to have possibility to have fun, fair, fights regardless the techtree we chose.

Overlord: This will help to sort things out.


ARGO
How to make My Tank INVISIBLE?
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04.01.2011 18:33:03
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\How to make My Tank INVISIBLE?
Link on message: #340032

ARGO: Cheating ingame is a huge perma ban in itself. Even the idea of having a thread to ask the community how to effectivly cheat in the game is not a good way at to get attention.
THIS POST IS CLOSED AND SENT TO THE JUNKYARD
Argo66


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:28:57
 
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Heavy Tanks\King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #340019

View PostVahal, on 04 January 2011 - 06:24 PM, said: He will say that only video could prove that, pictures can be photoshoped or something like that. :rolleyes:
any volunteer to nail a KT henshel turret during a video? i can lean my Elite KT

Overlord: Screenshots can't feature apertures in armor correctly, because game engine doesn't calculate this, these are just visual effects. They don't give proper understanding.

View PostVahal, on 04 January 2011 - 06:20 PM, said: what make me laugh about that is that your previous picture with the King Tiger and it coffee filter turret on Ensk is an obvious evidence. We can esily guess from what direction were coming shells. The holes are clearly elongated so i'm wondering why could be there missunderstanding?
Edit: nevermind, this guy is blind and deaf. <_<

Overlord:


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:28:57
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #340019

View PostVahal, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:24, said: He will say that only video could prove that, pictures can be photoshoped or something like that.  :rolleyes:
any volunteer to nail a KT henshel turret during a video? i can lean my Elite KT

Overlord: Screenshots can't feature apertures in armor correctly, because game engine doesn't calculate this, these are just visual effects. They don't give proper understanding.

View PostVahal, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:20, said: what make me laugh about that is that your previous picture with the King Tiger and it coffee filter turret on Ensk is an obvious evidence. We can esily guess from what direction were coming shells. The holes are clearly elongated so i'm wondering why could be there missunderstanding?
Edit: nevermind, this guy is blind and deaf.  <_<

Overlord:


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:28:57
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #340019

View PostVahal, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:24, said: He will say that only video could prove that, pictures can be photoshoped or something like that.  :rolleyes:
any volunteer to nail a KT henshel turret during a video? i can lean my Elite KT

Overlord: Screenshots can't feature apertures in armor correctly, because game engine doesn't calculate this, these are just visual effects. They don't give proper understanding.

View PostVahal, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:20, said: what make me laugh about that is that your previous picture with the King Tiger and it coffee filter turret on Ensk is an obvious evidence. We can esily guess from what direction were coming shells. The holes are clearly elongated so i'm wondering why could be there missunderstanding?
Edit: nevermind, this guy is blind and deaf.  <_<

Overlord:


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:22:33
 
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Heavy Tanks\King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #339996

View PostHornet331, on 04 January 2011 - 06:15 PM, said: lol indeed..
here is what i mean in blue, and what wargaming is talking about in green:
Posted Image

Overlord: That one is better. Now if would like to prove smth, record videos, sicne previous KT's screenshot with holes is not informative.


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:22:33
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #339996

View PostHornet331, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:15, said: lol indeed..
here is what i mean in blue, and what wargaming is talking about in green:
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7093/tiger2turretslope2.jpg

Overlord: That one is better. Now if would like to prove smth, record videos, sicne previous KT's screenshot with holes is not informative.


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:22:33
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #339996

View PostHornet331, on Jan 04 2011 - 17:15, said: lol indeed..
here is what i mean in blue, and what wargaming is talking about in green:
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7093/tiger2turretslope2.jpg

Overlord: That one is better. Now if would like to prove smth, record videos, sicne previous KT's screenshot with holes is not informative.


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:17:58
 
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Heavy Tanks\King Tiger post patch
Link on message: #339983

View PostStevepidge, on 04 January 2011 - 05:59 PM, said: Overlord you are WRONG. yes the side is sloped marginally but those impacts are from frontal shots and from the front the henschel sides are higly sloped probably 80 degrees. The effective rating SHOULD have a high chance of bouncing but in fact shots always impact and penetrate. For some reason, frontal shots that impact the highly sloped sides of the Henschel are being treated as if they were being shot from the side.

Overlord: So 80deg slope, you're saying. Can you post the image indicating where exactly KT has 80deg slope?


Overlord
King Tiger post patch
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04.01.2011 18:17:58
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
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View PostStevepidge, on Jan 04 2011 - 16:59, said: Overlord you are WRONG. yes the side is sloped marginally but those impacts are from frontal shots and from the front the henschel sides are higly sloped probably 80 degrees. The effective rating SHOULD have a high chance of bouncing but in fact shots always impact and penetrate. For some reason, frontal shots that impact the highly sloped sides of the Henschel are being treated as if they were being shot from the side.

Overlord: So 80deg slope, you're saying. Can you post the image indicating where exactly KT has 80deg slope?


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04.01.2011 18:17:58
 
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View PostStevepidge, on Jan 04 2011 - 16:59, said: Overlord you are WRONG. yes the side is sloped marginally but those impacts are from frontal shots and from the front the henschel sides are higly sloped probably 80 degrees. The effective rating SHOULD have a high chance of bouncing but in fact shots always impact and penetrate. For some reason, frontal shots that impact the highly sloped sides of the Henschel are being treated as if they were being shot from the side.

Overlord: So 80deg slope, you're saying. Can you post the image indicating where exactly KT has 80deg slope?


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04.01.2011 18:16:08
 
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View PostHornet331, on 04 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said: sry but what... form that angle the armor slope is 230mm and not 83mm :blink:
But yeah it fits pretty well that even from a angle of 70° or steeper the armor is only counted as 83mm... :lol:
I think you should check your facts...

Overlord: We should make sure that we are speaking the same language.
If you want to determine the level of KT's armor protection than it is (side turret) 80@20deg=85.1mm
Picture. Screenshots don't feature apertures correctly. It is impossible to determine crossing angle between the shell and the armor according to the pic. That angle is more important in terms of penetration.
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View PostHornet331, on Jan 04 2011 - 16:48, said: sry but what... form that angle the armor slope is 230mm and not 83mm :blink:
But yeah it fits pretty well that even from a angle of 70° or steeper the armor is only counted as 83mm...  :lol:
I think you should check your facts...

Overlord: We should make sure that we are speaking the same language.
If you want to determine the level of KT's armor protection than it is (side turret) 80@20deg=85.1mm
Picture. Screenshots don't feature apertures correctly. It is impossible to determine crossing angle between the shell and the armor according to the pic. That angle is more important in terms of penetration.
Record videos.


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04.01.2011 18:16:08
 
Subject: King Tiger post patch
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View PostHornet331, on Jan 04 2011 - 16:48, said: sry but what... form that angle the armor slope is 230mm and not 83mm :blink:
But yeah it fits pretty well that even from a angle of 70° or steeper the armor is only counted as 83mm...  :lol:
I think you should check your facts...

Overlord: We should make sure that we are speaking the same language.
If you want to determine the level of KT's armor protection than it is (side turret) 80@20deg=85.1mm
Picture. Screenshots don't feature apertures correctly. It is impossible to determine crossing angle between the shell and the armor according to the pic. That angle is more important in terms of penetration.
Record videos.


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04.01.2011 17:41:33
 
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View PostPzGrenKdr, on 04 January 2011 - 12:55 PM, said: right, but i nammed "real" guns, planned and constructed. Why did you give the 2nd (gun-)howitzer this "curious" destignation? Like i write is the 150mm sFH 36 a much shorter lighweight hwoitzer for horse drwan duty with L/23 barrel and not L/41. Also it have lower range than the sFH 18 IRL.
IMO a Dev make the mistake and mixed up the destignation: ingame "150mm sFH 36 L/41" but the GW-Panther should get the 150mm sFh 43(there a 2 versions, one with L/36 barrel and one with a L/41 barrel).
@Overlord pls ask the your "weapon-experts" why they give this weapon this curious name.

Overlord: Indeed. There was a mistake. The second gun will be replaced for one of 150mm sFh 43 versions.
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04.01.2011 17:34:24
 
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Heavy Tanks\King Tiger post patch
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View PostHornet331, on 04 January 2011 - 02:54 PM, said: If the armor values are correct, then please explain me how it is possible that a 107mm form a KV3 with 167mm (208mm max) penetration can punch throught a 230mm LOS thickness armor every time...
If the armor would be correct it would bounce every time... Its funny that i get more bounces on a T44 with 100mm@60° then 80mm@70°.
And please don't tell me you can't reproduce this.. when even normal users can do this without problems...

Overlord: It is strongly recommended to study all the specs carefully before posting such stuff.
Regarding the pic. Henschel turret has 80mm side armor, slightly sloped, overall less than 85mm effective armor. 107mm gun for KV-3 has 167mm penetration. It's not the front of the turret, it's side.


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View PostHornet331, on Jan 04 2011 - 13:54, said: If the armor values are correct, then please explain me how it is possible that a 107mm form a KV3 with 167mm (208mm max) penetration can punch throught a 230mm LOS thickness armor every time...

If the armor would be correct it would bounce every time... Its funny that i get more bounces on a T44 with 100mm@60° then 80mm@70°.

And please don't tell me you can't reproduce this.. when even normal users can do this without problems...


Overlord:
It is strongly recommended to study all the specs carefully before posting such stuff.

Regarding the pic. Henschel turret has 80mm side armor, slightly sloped, overall less than 85mm effective armor. 107mm gun for KV-3 has 167mm penetration. It's not the front of the turret, it's side.


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