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Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\They Killed 'em All!
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Subject: 0.6.6 Patch Notes
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Zedzded, on Jul 23 2011 - 10:34, said: © Zedzded

Subject: Narrowing Tier Spreads Discussion - How to Fix Matchmaking
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Subject: Technical Support & Bug Reporting\In-Game Bug Reporting\Can't Sell some tanks
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Haplo013, on 24 July 2011 - 12:23 AM, said: The last patch put a restiction where you can only sell 4 (or 5 don't recall which) per day. If you sold that many that day it won't let you sell more till the next day. Unless i missed something

Subject: The Goon Embassy (CONDI/NDP/MS-W/SGLE)
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deathTouch, on Jul 23 2011 - 20:11, said: This message is for CONDI: I would like to order 200 Ham sandwiches, 200 tiny bags of the cheapest potato chips you sell, and a big ass box of Franzia wine for the upcoming Victory in Russia day for the SA.
Thanks. Just charge it to Bob's card.

Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\They Killed 'em All!
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Subject: Off-Topic Discussion\Off-Topic\Why you should always lok both ways before you start driving
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Soviet_Union, on 22 July 2011 - 09:42 PM, said: stupid americans, stop doing illegal wars.
i tell you guys, USA is the new GB, getting all the GB colonies back, the bastards...

Subject: Clans\Clan Diplomacy\My Little Pwnies (MLP) Embassy
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Xpedience, on 21 July 2011 - 09:34 PM, said: MODS?
Can we please have this Plex guy dealt with? He is not a member of a clan, yet trolls the CW forums endlessly. He has attacked several MLP members verbally in games, as well as attempted TK's in game.
I have yet to see any posts from him that are even mildly useful other than blatant attacks against our members. He exists on forums to cause trouble with no positive input to the community, and he exists in the game to cause trouble and grief players to lower their enjoyment of the game.
Please Moderators, could you deal with this person in some way please??
thanks in Advance

Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\MVP: Kill'em All
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mr48, on 22 July 2011 - 10:36 PM, said: Wait so the frags from the three battles were added up? WTF I could have had 2nd place!

Subject: MVP: Kill'em All
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mr48, on Jul 22 2011 - 21:36, said: Wait so the frags from the three battles were added up? WTF I could have had 2nd place!

Subject: MVP: Kill'em All
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mr48, on Jul 22 2011 - 21:36, said: Wait so the frags from the three battles were added up? WTF I could have had 2nd place!

Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\MVP: Kill'em All
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Subject: Narrowing Tier Spreads Discussion - How to Fix Matchmaking
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smokntuesdays, on Jul 22 2011 - 19:55, said: hyperbole

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Prediator, on Jul 22 2011 - 18:41, said: I would just like to thank you for taking the time and effort to communicate with your players.  I can't tell you how much it means to me and hopefully the rest of the players.


Quote You personally have stated that you "hate fighting lowe's in a hetzer".. which is the same as basically being totally overmatched.  If you hate it then you obviously dont find it to be fun.  Why do you have something that is not fun in your game?  Thats all i want to know...  From http://tobolds.blogs...-interview.html the interview there you also stated that you wanted us to have 5 games that were "frustating" and nothing but death for every enjoyable 5 kill game we have.  Do you understand that what I want from a game is a fun time, i have had the same frustrating and hateful experiences as you have in a lower tiered tank fighting a higher tier tank.  What are you going to do to fix those frustrating and hate filled gameplay situations?  I mean if your having them and you built the damn game, what do you think casual players have to deal with?  Why play a game that you hate or find frustrating when there are so many other games out there without frustrating and hateful situations?

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CavScout19D, on Jul 22 2011 - 18:15, said: Why do you think that would solve anything? WoT would tell us the results and they would be  ignored or marginalized just as the information that MM is not a majority complaint (from ChrisK) was. If ChrisK's response is not going to be believed why would future responses from him or other WoT reps be?

Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\MVP: Kill'em All
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Subject: Narrowing Tier Spreads Discussion - How to Fix Matchmaking
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salihe, on Jul 22 2011 - 01:33, said: No worries; considering we've gotten used to one-answers from Overlord in the Q&A thread, this is a virtual buffet


Quote Btw, I was wondering...so, did the other devs promise you a liter of fine Russian vodka to come in here and shut up the complaining Americans?


Quote lol, just joking. We all know you just drew the short straw in the straw-drawing contest to see who 'got' to come talk to us


Quote All kidding aside, thanks for taking the time to come in and address a lot of the concerns a lot of us have. I know better than a lot how much time it takes to compose those mammoth multi-quote posts, and it's appreciated.


Quote Keeping in mind I'm not a developer, balancing tanks out by their credit earnings seems....unrelated, lol. I suppose it could be made to be related, but on the surface, it appears that there are a lot of other, more suitable categories with which to balance tanks out, like average damage or armor qualifiers. With the rest of it, that sounds fair enough. I'll mention the content development below.


Quote A lot of points have been brought up about how the NA playerbase is a fairly miniscule part of the overall scheme. One thing that's been mentioned is that, while that may be the current state, I and others believe that it doesn't have to be that way. The NA population could dwarf the Russian one, if it were to conform to a play style American gamers have become accustomed to, that is to say, balanced, fair, each person on each team having just as much chance to kill the rest of the team. It's likely a cultural issue that causes the voices on the NA server to be so much louder than the rest (though I've seen evidence that EU players are fairly unhappy about MM, as well). I realize it's probably against the principle of the development team to change your game to an extent like this in order to suit what appears to be a relatively small segment of the overall population, but, say you guys did do that, and say WoT's popularity in the US skyrocketed, drawing in thousands of new players. Imagine an influx of hungry US gamers, all eager to open their wallets and dump out the huge amounts of disposable income they have (I know you said that's not necessarily a priority, but WG.net is, above all else, a business, and every business needs money to survive, and the ones that make more generally end up doing better). In short, imagine what could happen if the US player base ended up moving from a relatively small segment of the overall player base to the majority of it.


Quote There has also been a lot of contention regarding how many people are unhappy overall, how many have left the game because of it, etc, etc, most times being criticized as not carrying any validity or having any "solid" evidence. The problem with that is, short of surveying every single person who plays or has ever played WoT and asking them specifically what they don't like or why they quit playing, there's no way to scientifically quantify exactly what percentage of people are in favor of changing it or have quit because of it. But, I've known a few people who quit because of matchmaking; another guy said he personally knew 27; somebody else named a similarly high number; just in the past month, I've seen a lot of people talking about knowing others who quit, as well. Also, the thing that really gets me is, fairly often, someone will come up the forums for the very first time, and their very first post will either be something about hating the matchmaker, or quitting because of it. In however long all those folks played, they never felt the need to come on the forums and post about anything, until then, with that one thing. I see people in-game complaining about it fairly constantly (and I always direct them here and the Official thread), as well. All that leads me, and others, to believe the problem is a lot larger than immediately obvious. Though, like I said at the start of this paragraph, there's no logistical way to know for sure. We can infer, though.


Quote With regards to content, I was under the impression that there were probably a few different teams, working on different areas, rather than everyone working on generally the same area. So, knowing that, I, myself, can be more understandable about things taking more time. Though, I am curious (somewhat unrelated, but not entirely), why you guys save up everything for those big, giant, mega-patches, rather than releasing smaller, but more frequent patches. That's how a lot of games do it, and it tends to keep the impatient players sated, knowing something new is always around the corner. Releasing them that way would, as well, let you focus more on each individual things, rather than the way it is now, where 60 changes get put in place all at once, then you have to keep track of them all simultaneously. But, like I said, that's somewhat unrelated.


Quote Oh, but since you mentioned new content...any word of a new game mode? Historical battles, maybe? I know that was one of the biggest selling points for when I started playing back in closed beta, and I've been looking forward to it ever since. [/s]  woops, I didn't see the post Overlord made about...new game modes, lol. Go figure. Awesome news, tho


Quote Ooooo, Overlord's not gonna give you that bottle of vodka now


Quote Seriously, though, I'm sure that alleviated a lot of people's concerns. It's like the Russian bias thing...something that occurred to people, then grew and grew, and, without any official denial, generally grew to be assumed true. I mean, like I said, I know WG.net is a business, and businesses need money to survive, but it's nice to hear someone say it's not a priority at the expense of the players (though, in order to get a Lowe now, players will have to break the don't-spend-more-than-$20 rule about 4 times over, lol). I think a few things that contribute to players feeling neglected are, while the Q&A thread is awesome, it does seem fairly vanilla, which is to say, questions that probe uncomfortable territory tend to get deleted without mention, while other, genuine questions get deleted repeatedly (for instance, Steeltrap posted one question regarding the 0% critical hit issue 7 times; after it got deleted the last time, I believe he just game up). Plus, things like this thread (a list of bad press WG.net and WoT has gotten), plus the fact that a lot of issues that are currently going on, have been going on since closed beta...all those things add up to an overall negative feeling. I'll admit I've just assigned some things not getting fixed or changed to the fact that you guys didn't care. In the absence of even minor things like posts saying, "Hey guys, we know about this, this, and this, and we're working on getting them fixed as fast as we can!", we tend to fill in the blanks ourselves. Add in the spaced out, huge, mega-patches, rather than smaller-but-frequent ones, and you have a recipe for disgruntled players.


Quote Here's the thing...I, and most others who have posted, don't mind bucking the odds or being at the bottom of the list for matches. Despite the few pro-MM posters who insist that we all just need to L2PLAY and just suck at life in general, it's not a skill issue. It's a matter of continually being placed in matches where, not only are we at the bottom of the list, but we're incapable of really doing much to impact the match. Take your example of being in your Hetzer; that's the majority of our matches in medium tanks. And scouting's not really an option, since they don't go fast enough, and the heavies on the other team have equal or better viewing ranges. Most of us don't want to be a mere distraction to the other team most of our matches; we would like to actually fight, damage, and kill other tanks, as well. I mean, that's the whole premise of WoT: exciting tank battles, and matches where we're matched up evenly against other tanks generally around our tier are awesome. They shine with the potential of what this game really could be, and they're fun as hell. The problem is, matches like that are the minority. I was going to mention this before, but forgot, so I'll stick it in now: hell, if I had matches where it took me 25 hits to die, I'd be excited and pretty proud, too! The only time that happens, though, is if I'm in my Pz2, and a Loltraktor is shooting his pellet gun at me, lol. Most of the rest of the time, it's anywhere from 1 to 10, depending on what tank I'm in and what's shooting at me, but closer to 1 in my mediums, and anywhere from 2-10 in my Tiger. Similarly, I don't know if I've ever tracked or even really caused more than a few percentage points of damage to a Lowe, even in my Tiger. I don't have the long 88 yet, so I'm stuck using the same gun the tier 6 VK3601 uses, and that thing bounces half the shots I fire. But still, the Tiger's tier 7, and everything that bounces my shots is tier 8, only one tier higher, so I don't complain. Well, I mean, I do complain, but I don't lobby to get it 'fixed' (though I do think the Tiger is in sore need of some attention; I mean, what used to be the most legendary and fearsome tank of WWII has been reduced to an over-sized bullet magnet with mostly impotent guns).


Quote I'm willing to stick around and see what you guys can come up with to help remedy the situation. The only thing is, I just hope it's not too late, at least for the NA server. Not many people, generally, have the desire to stick around with a game they feel is imbalanced and places them in unfair situations the majority of the time; not when there is so much competition out there.


Quote In the end, we all want the same thing: to have fun, and for WoT to do awesomely. Now, to find a way to make those two things happen

Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\A way to break the tedium of top tier tension
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Wallachia, on 22 July 2011 - 04:46 PM, said: I sometimes like to grab my loltraktor and pretend I am an AI controlled tank. You know, like the old times of snes.
The scary part is that I once got to kill 4 enemies in the same match with that joke.

Subject: Narrowing Tier Spreads Discussion - How to Fix Matchmaking
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Ceptyr, on Jul 22 2011 - 16:07, said: Thats a cool idea. I always wonder how much xp I got for doing damage or anything. Although the more detail you give people, the more chances there are for exploits. A minor change to the above idea would be a summary of different types of xp at the end of the match (just another tab in the end battle screen) which could summarize xp amounts for Damage, Spotting, etc, just in a more general sense.As for the topic at hand, having Tier 5's against Tier 10's is a little silly, so lowering the Tier spread to +/- 3 is not a bad idea. But the worst thing has to be when you are in a battle with 75% of the team as Tier 9-10, and then the rest of the tanks scattered down to Tier 6. Seems like the number of high tier tanks in the battle is not proportioned in a reasonable sense.


Onyx, on Jul 22 2011 - 16:08, said: This would help some, yes.  Having an XP scroll bar or a breakdown of XP at the end of battle (keep clutter low) would help.  Additionally, giving bonus XP for being outtiered would help as well.  Such as a 10-20% bonus or so in XP and Credits for every tier from the top you are.  Perhaps an exponential increase that starts at 5% for 1 tier but 40% for 3 tiers.  You get my idea.  Alternatively, normalizing the Damage/Health so that low tier tanks aren't 2 shot, while high tier take 20 shots from the same tanks they 2 shot might help, or just make it so the matchmaker heavily prioritizes making games bottom-tier heavy or mid-tier heavy, so that the top tier has the fewest tanks in the game and, as such, hold far less influence as a game dominated by 7 top-tier tanks in a tier 4-7 or the like spread.  Per team, mind you. Also, is this an area to bring up other complaints with the matchmaker, such as that stock tanks aren't considered different from fully upgraded tanks by weight?

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smokntuesdays, on Jul 22 2011 - 02:34, said: I don't care about exp and credits. You are either worried that people will get more or they will get less. This isn't about progression. I don't want to play the higher tier tanks vs a bunch of lower tier tanks anymore than I want to play the lower tier tanks vs the higher tier tanks.  No doubt there is much less complaint from those on the higher side in that equation, but there are areas of tanks which I am fond of, which are completely ruined by what you call progression.


Quote What you are saying is that the middle tiers can't be enjoyable because of progression.


Quote We basically NEVER see any content added to the game that is program related.   What gets added is all modeling stuff, very little programming at all.   We can't even get a decent chat system. Your modeling team is awesome, I'm not even sure what the hell your programmers do, because we never see any content that is based on their work other than the base game itself. It seems to me your programmers are out to lunch on something else, and what's left is your art team.


Quote When people say more content, it doesn't mean just maps and tanks. It also means different game modes and things which require a little programming and a little more design then letting your art team put out a new map and some rigged tanks(not rigged as in screwing someone over).


Quote Now, lets talk markets.
Russia GDP = $1.465 trillion
European Union = $16,282 trillion
US GDP = $14.772 trillion
Get the picture?


Quote Why in the world are you looking at how many current players you have in the US rather than how many potential customers you have? You think your Russian population is big? Its not.


Quote This is flat out not true.  People keep quiting at T4/T5. They did in beta, they do now. Go load up the game now and the majority of the population is T5 and below. I find it hard to believe that the community I came from, which plays FPS regularly/daily all quit for the same few reasons and it's some kind of oddity as you claim. I find it hard to believe it's just a vocal minority when if I bring up this game somewhere else, it's always the same general complaints.


Quote And McDonalds doesn't want to make people fat.  


Quote I find it hard to believe that you don't want people spending more than $20 a month when you sell individual tanks for more than that, and then have recently increased the price of a tank because it was a popular buy.


Quote If you only wanted people to spend $20 a month, then you would cap the spending.


Quote Yeah, it's exciting the first couple of times you get put into a battle with higher people. After about your 100th time doing it - not so much. It's like seeing a girl with a nice butt, getting all excited and then she turns around and has a huge nose with buckteeth.


Quote I thought we were going to get some serious discussion on this topic, but all you gave us was spin.

Subject: Narrowing Tier Spreads Discussion - How to Fix Matchmaking
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PROACEX1, on Jul 22 2011 - 09:25, said: I think reducing the spread could help a little bit, but honestly, there wouldn't be much of a challenge than now would it?
I'd much rather have a fixed amount of tiers within a battle, instead of having lopsided battles where one side has more T8s than the other because of one large artillery unit, ect.


Quote I'd also love for the high tier arty glitch to be fixed. I've been stuck in so many 4v4 battles...I just lol at em anymore.


Quote And I like spending money on a good game! It just needs to have some fixes done and it will be fine. $600 so far and I've only been playing for a month and a half, less than that consistently and now I have a ton of vehicles across all the tiers. Some tanks seem to get stuck in battles more consistently where they are far out of their league, such as T6s and T3s. But many others are very consistent, and only suffer from imbalanced tiers within the match (5 Lowe's on one side versus 3 IS-3s, a T32, and a Lowe. Derp).


Quote Or, to simply make people appreciating teamplay and helping out, why not simply create a bonus system for tracking or hitting enemies and than an ally killing them? The CoD series is a bad example (but an example nonetheless), but so is BF2 and they both have such things that can help quite a bit with players being disgruntled about being low tiered or outgunned.
Thus a Hetzer tracking a Lowe and an allied arty hitting or killing the Lowe would result in the Hetzer receiving exp/credits for doing so. This is obviously a ton of coding, and quite complex compared to the system currently in place, but would it not help to make players feel obligated to help, and give them a purpose on the battlefield even when outgunned?

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TrackedCanOpener, on Jul 22 2011 - 06:27, said: Thanks for the detailed response. I've played Wargaming games for years now, and have usually grimaced at how pants they usually were. However, I continue to be surprised at how World of Tanks, despite its flaws, actually has a fun gameplay at its core, and it's what's keeping me coming back to it every day.


Quote Having said that, thank you for coming out and saying what's patently obvious based on a lot of things seen in this game: World of Tanks is geared toward Wargaming's primary market: Russia. People can complain about how the game doesn't fit American sensibilities for whatever reason, but you guys know what makes your market tick and this game hits it perfectly. In a strange way, I appreciate that for once Americans aren't the primary market and your game mechanics are built for your primary market, and though there are some things I don't like about it, I've just had to admit that I'm a part of a miniscule part of your playerbase and roll with it. If it bothered me that much, I would have left long ago, but based on the sheer amount of cash I have spent on this game, I guess there isn't enough to bother me.


Quote If I could offer some advice, I think the development team (or at least the PR guys) should develop a series of articles for the North American community that explains why you're doing what you're doing, and how the Russian server and community actually operates because of it. I think some of the disgruntled folks would find it at least informative if they could understand how some of the decisions that seem boneheaded on this server actually benefit your main customers--which is what your focus should be anyway. There's a significant portion of the forums that think you folks are a bunch of slack-jawed yokels who have no clue about economics or the fact that Americans have money, so I think it would be beneficial for you to come out and show them that you're a quite successful niche developer who focuses on Russia and by extension Europe, and you're successful enough doing that while picking up the North American niche players like us without a lot of press. If anything, it would allow folks like me to point to the articles and tell someone ranting about the Matchmaker that we are but humble grasshoppers in the food web that is World of Tanks, and their screaming just makes you a bigger target for the bird to pick you off.


Quote Once again, thanks for the time and the explanations. Though I could have told you that the crickets you hear chirping as a result of your post was to be expected. Few people enjoy being told that they're insignificant for once.

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Karm, on Jul 22 2011 - 08:19, said: Okay let me see if I can understand what you are saying.
To make it "FUN!" for the average casual/light player.
You designed a bottom feeding system to make a long and often depressing grind. Ageist almost imposable odds.
There is some kind of return sort of ... of justification that you will be the one bottom feeding others, once you reach high enough level. If you stick it out that long that is?

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smokntuesdays, on Jul 22 2011 - 14:50, said: I don't understand how it won't be a challenge if the teams are somewhat close to being balanced. It seems to me the challenge is missing when you are at the top of a very large imbalance.

Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\A way to break the tedium of top tier tension
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CaptIceman, on 22 July 2011 - 04:11 PM, said: I like to grab my T2 Light, rush to the enemie base and do some turmoil once I get there.
It hillarious to see everyone shooting at you and, since most new players didn't have yet grasped the concept of leading shots, missing all the time.
Only problem I see is that the darn thing is so fast that it's kinda hard to control in confined spaces.
Once I hit a hard spot, like a rock or another tank, it's pretty much game over for me.
But the fun is well worth it. You can spot all the enemies for your team and, if you are lucky, even take some of their arty down.
Another thing is getting in my Hotchkiss and blast at least 4 enemies, sometimes even 8 (my record so far).
So yeah, playing some low tier battles for a change is fun.

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owlgator, on Jul 21 2011 - 21:46, said: Thank you for providing your detailed responses to those questions as it provided some great insight.  I do, however, disagree with one comment made in the above response.
I think it is difficult to determine how many players are dissatisfied with the MM (or any other aspect) based on forum responses.  I've heard the argument that it's typically the vocal minority or only those who have something to complain about will post on this thread.  I typically platoon with four other guys in different combinations and I know that at least three are frustrated by the two issues I mentioned earlier (the random rolls don't seem to equal out and the top-heavy matchups) yet they have never posted.  Just as you can assume only those posting are dissatisfied, I can assume there are 3-4 people also dissatisfied for every person posting.

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Prediator, on Jul 22 2011 - 03:28, said: first off, i understand your numbers analysis.. just realize that as potential customers.. no one wants to hear that your opinion doesn't matter... especially the "vocal minority".  
Second, please explain to me how a hetzer with a view range of less than 300 can "scout" or distract when your a one shot kill..  you said it yourself you HATE a part of the game!  WHY do you want to keep a part of the game that you hate? WHAT made you put it into a GAME that is supposed to be fun?  Please dear god explain that to me...  
I know changing the match maker seems like its very hard and could have huge ramifications.. but its just a game.. you obviously don't care about the game balance of a hetzer against a lowe, but your terribily worried about the 100 damage a panzer 4 could do to earn himself 400 credits by hitting a lowe before he gets one shotted by the lowe?  Your making no sense to me..  your trying to balance a game without looking at the GAMEPLAY.. by instead looking at credit income or exp earned.  I don't care if i get NO CREDITS OR NO EXP if the game is fun! which its NOT when i have to go up against a lowe in a panzer 4.  Can you understand that and respond to that?

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