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Narrowing Tier Spreads Discussion - How to Fix Matchmaking

Дата: 22.07.2011 18:11:12
View Postsmokntuesdays, on Jul 22 2011 - 02:34, said: I don't care about exp and credits. You are either worried that people will get more or they will get less. This isn't about progression. I don't want to play the higher tier tanks vs a bunch of lower tier tanks anymore than I want to play the lower tier tanks vs the higher tier tanks.  No doubt there is much less complaint from those on the higher side in that equation, but there are areas of tanks which I am fond of, which are completely ruined by what you call progression.

ChrisK: Agreed, and this (as I pointed out in the interview with Tobold) is where the difference of perception takes place. We balance the game across the entire game, not from battle to battle. But the player experiences the game battle to battle, not all at once. So what we're working on is how to best serve both of these types of balance without potentially breaking what we already have, both in terms of gameplay and customer satisfaction across all server clusters.

Quote What you are saying is that the middle tiers can't be enjoyable because of progression.

ChrisK: No, what I am saying is that they are more of a challenge because of progression. How you meet challenges - head on, quitting, going around, trying something new, etc. - is up to you. If you're not enjoying your current method of taking on the tough challenges, try another way. Or maybe look at your rewards in a different way - like instead of only win/lose or kills or survival rate, look at your xp and credit earnings (again, the long view method of balance). However, even with the relatively low (albeit vocal) amount of complaints, we do take them seriously and are looking for ways to improve the system. It just takes time to research, implement, and test. :Smile_honoring:

Quote We basically NEVER see any content added to the game that is program related.   What gets added is all modeling stuff, very little programming at all.   We can't even get a decent chat system. Your modeling team is awesome, I'm not even sure what the hell your programmers do, because we never see any content that is based on their work other than the base game itself. It seems to me your programmers are out to lunch on something else, and what's left is your art team.

ChrisK: I've been asking for better chat tools since October. Seriously. The programmers have been working on finishing up Ultimate Conquest and implementing new features (camo coming...), but soon will go back to tweaking and improving core gameplay.

Quote When people say more content, it doesn't mean just maps and tanks. It also means different game modes and things which require a little programming and a little more design then letting your art team put out a new map and some rigged tanks(not rigged as in screwing someone over).

ChrisK: Oh yeah, and new game modes are coming. :Smile_harp:

Quote Now, lets talk markets.
Russia GDP = $1.465 trillion
European Union = $16,282 trillion
US GDP = $14.772 trillion
Get the picture?

ChrisK: Yes, but it's irrelevant to matchmaking. Of more concern to us are the cultural differences in player types that keep players on the NA servers from enjoying the same systems that Russians and others love to play. Which is again why, even though the MM complaints are a small minority, we're working on new approaches to it.

Quote Why in the world are you looking at how many current players you have in the US rather than how many potential customers you have? You think your Russian population is big? Its not.

ChrisK: China dwarfs both markets and is perfectly happy with the game. However, we don't want it to be unsuccessful in NA, so we're working to improve it, even though we don't expect as much return on our investment because of the cultural differences, not because of GDP.

Quote This is flat out not true.  People keep quiting at T4/T5. They did in beta, they do now. Go load up the game now and the majority of the population is T5 and below. I find it hard to believe that the community I came from, which plays FPS regularly/daily all quit for the same few reasons and it's some kind of oddity as you claim. I find it hard to believe it's just a vocal minority when if I bring up this game somewhere else, it's always the same general complaints.

ChrisK: Again, only here - we're still going to keep working on it though, because we see this as an important market, not just because of the GDP, but because it's culturally significant in the world, the economy, history, and the industry. Plus, I want to keep playing on the NA servers, not on the Russian servers! :Smile_great:

Quote And McDonalds doesn't want to make people fat.  <_<

ChrisK: They don't want fat people for the same reason the cigarette companies don't want lung cancer - they don't want to pay for it! But that's a straw man argument and doesn't in any way apply to WoT.

Quote I find it hard to believe that you don't want people spending more than $20 a month when you sell individual tanks for more than that, and then have recently increased the price of a tank because it was a popular buy.

ChrisK: We're hoping that will cut down on the number of Lowes in the game actually, not because it was a popular buy. I prefer my KV-5 over my Lowe by far, personally. But yes, we'd much rather have low-spending long-term players than high-spending short-term players. Really. In fact, if everyone just spent $10 a month we'd be quite happy, but we don't feel that a $10 monthly subscription model lends itself well to the game.

Quote If you only wanted people to spend $20 a month, then you would cap the spending.

ChrisK: Now THAT would be foolish! LOL!

Quote Yeah, it's exciting the first couple of times you get put into a battle with higher people. After about your 100th time doing it - not so much. It's like seeing a girl with a nice butt, getting all excited and then she turns around and has a huge nose with buckteeth.

ChrisK: And yet, those girls end up married too. And when you finally get that hottie you've always wanted, it's never as good as you thought it would be (well, at first it is, but once your kids hit Tier 4, it's not as much fun). :Smile-hiding:  

Quote I thought we were going to get some serious discussion on this topic, but all you gave us was spin.

ChrisK: Nope, serious discussion. But not caving in "OK let's just do it your way and see how badly the game breaks" compromise. I'll continue to talk facts and reality. :Smile_great:

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