Developers posts on forum

DeviouslyCursed: Random MM is best MM. Current MM is good.

Draschel: I stand to benefit more than I stand to lose. But that is not the issue. Although, I must add, new players are typically not the players, that get caught up in dilemmas like engaging 260, 907, 279E, Chieftains all the time. I'd wager the bet, and many would side with me, that newer players stay tiers 3-7 for first few thousand battles. By providing free sixth sense, crews that are base 100% as opposed to previously 50 or 75%, it is a certain step up. I wish they would take it further surely, like an extended extensive tutorial that also provides more rewards. And removal of tiers 1-5 bots that cater incredibly bad habits for population.  As for the opinion that world of tanks balances, and shifts their game according to purple-statistic players, this is some crazy kind of tinfoil theory. Even if it was, it comes in at age-long waiting periods, that many a great player leaves anyway because the changes were always delayed or not even in sight. Bad -to- new and inexperienced  players, will always outnumber great ones, so using the words overwhelming**  or  things nobody asked for** are certain misnomers.    I doubt that Crew 2.0 will successfully go through. Do not worry. Crew 2.0 was better than crew 1.0, even if 2.0 remains a red sore. Don't worry. Crew 3.0 will arrive, what was the time span between 1.0 and 2.0,  4 months? WG WoT will see many disagree with 2.0 platform, but will also note the criteria as an improvement over 1.0 as most will agree there were improvements. So 3.0 will be yet another improvement over 2.0. And if need be, 4.0 an improvement over 3.0. Needless to s a y, crew changes are coming, its more of when they do arrive and how satisfactory they'll be for most players rather than complaining about the arrival of it, is yet to be seen. 

DeviouslyCursed:  Well, maybe not exactly 0%, but so low that not even SimplySimple has experienced anything even remotely close to that. Because we all know if he ever had, he'd be posting that screenshot for years. Though I guess it could be literally 0%, if there aren't 15 purples even playing at that tier, then there is a 0% chance of it happening at that time...

DeviouslyCursed:  Careful. He'll accuse you of being a broken record and refuse to respond if you make a point he can't refute.

DeviouslyCursed:  This is why I wonder about all the nobs complaining about blowout games. Do they not realize if all matches were close (impossible b/c MM can't do that, I know, but lets just say it is somehow managed), all that would happen is you'd get more and more of this type of crap. "Blowout matches aren't fun, but 15 minute camp fests are!"

DeviouslyCursed:  He didn't say rigged, and you are basically misusing the word. Predictable does not mean rigged.

_BobaFett: Jingles is probably my favorite content creator out there. Charming fellow.

Draschel:  

Draschel:  Are we to assume, that with your statement you imply, that businesses..... Are not a place of business, and aren't for conducting it?Primarily, businesses do not exist for sales, profiteering, expandingBusinesses have no direction or goals, simply just exist?That free and freely playing should have advantages of customers? I.....am not sure you understand exactly how entrepreneurship and business, caters itself. How old are you, and what business do you operate, and how successful is it?Dense. Yes, certainly nice response. Retort, actually. 

Draschel:  What do you want them to do? Cater for every single soul on planet earth partaking their product? It is impossible. *"Everybody is a critic. You can't please everyone."*  Every hear of those? Guess what, they are true. Listen, when you agree to play this game, you agree to User License Agreement, that you don't own the property that War Gaming hosts. You are awarded its use, sure. War Gaming is free to alter, as they see fit. In fact, they have been more than accommodating to actually protect users purchases by walking wide berths around nerfing premium tanks. It seems no entitlement there, at all but rather a body always tip toeing around broken glass  (that are us, users and our incessant complaints).   

DeviouslyCursed:  Wow, him and your mom have a lot in common.

Draschel:  All  these actually have their great DPM fast firing tier 8 guns perfectly fine for FL 

DeviouslyCursed:  If you're trying for dumbest post, you failed  ...but not by much.

DeviouslyCursed:  The moment you implement your craptastic SBMM, you will get hordes of people crying that the SBMM is poorly implemented because blowouts are still happening just like before. That's because a lot of people are too stupid to understand perfectly balanced matches will still end in blowouts nearly the same amount of times. You can't fix stupid, you can just give them a place to congregate and then ignore them. I hear certain days of the week works well.

TeriyakiTanker:
Glad you got the point…. You aren’t very bright.

DeviouslyCursed:  I absolutely detest you on all levels... But what you've said here is true.

DeviouslyCursed:  Absolutely correct.

DeviouslyCursed:  Oh please, have another meltdown about how science books are equal to "other" books because they are both written by humans. You are so far removed from reality. I bet you've been a guest on 'Hoarders.'

Draschel:  Type 61 was a fun 3-mark. The expectation values were very low from before Japanese med-rework that gave them more turret armor and 360 alpha from 390.I used the stock 90mm, STA1 gun with 218mm AP pen and 275 HEAT. Provides more DPM and ROF, more gun control, better camo after firing and importantly thent he 90 held 50 pieces of ammunition while the 105 only had 32. I bet the 90mm does better in FL too. But why would you want to play those FL? I get what you are saying, but not everyone has all the things they want done. Allowing the opportunity, for free play people, to grind tiers 8-9 outside of randoms without extreme free exp expenditure is extremely courteous.  

DeviouslyCursed:  Actually, no it doesn't. All the 14 teammates behavior averages out over time and is the same for everyone, so what is left is my effect. I affect my win rate, no one else. EDIT: Well, also platoonmates too. They can affect win rate since you can make them a constant.

DeviouslyCursed:  That's what people without any credible evidence try to do: "Well, if you're not 100% certain in all situations, then it's a free for all and everything is equal!!!!!" Life doesn't work that way. Reality doesn't work that way. You are wrong.

Elias_K_Grodin: Happy Birthday, Wargaming! The company behind your favorite vehicular combat games is turning another year older! It's the perfect occasion for a little in-game party. Jump into World of Tanks, tackle some birthday missions filled with great rewards, and help yourself to a brand-new ride! Discounts up to 50% are available for Premium vehicles from Tier II through VIII. Also, four times the XP is the perfect icing on the cake. So make sure to cut yourself a slice of bonus XP for every first win, and raise a glass to plenty more years to come! Read more about the celebration here!

Hey_man_Gneis_shot: Happy Birthday, Wargaming! The company behind your favorite vehicular combat games is turning another year older! It's the perfect occasion for a little in-game party. Jump into World of Tanks, tackle some birthday missions filled with great rewards, and help yourself to a brand-new ride! Discounts up to 50% are available for Premium vehicles from Tier II through VIII. Also, four times the XP is the perfect icing on the cake. So make sure to cut yourself a slice of bonus XP for every first win, and raise a glass to plenty more years to come! Read more about the celebration here!

DeviouslyCursed:  And yet, somehow, as smart as you clearly are and are clearly never wrong....   my performance still affects my win rate.    

Draschel: You know, I think the changes are pretty good.You get the option to grind tier IX stock tanks.That is a win for everyone. Free play or spenders Typical IX tank could cost upwards 150,000 exp to upgrade it. FL will help huge  

Draschel: It is a place of business. Let us be certain of it.Primarily, businesses exist to procure sales, service, profits That is the fundamental direction of a business, yes?Free to play, yes. However, an advantage for paying, yes. What on earth is the issue? What do you expect?  

TeriyakiTanker: Well why don't you leave the forums before you get to weary?  Or stay and maybe like not read threads you don't like?  It is truly amazing what you can do with some self control.

Draschel:  I see plenty of content on twitch and youtube, of players playing, excelling in close quarters fights and city maps, with tanks like T100LT, Grille, Leopard, Bat Chat, STB1. Because a map is boxed in and comprises of short corridors, doesn't regulate you into trading with opponents mindlessly 150m away, or have you target usually Type 5, Jag panzer, Maus, 705A  every single time. And in addition, it doesn't have players sitting behind buildings for minutes at a time, or advancing unless advantageous, and the better the player, the more pronounced the advantage that lights up and is taken. This isn't a forced invitation, volun-tell people to learn to play better like streamers or the people who enjoy the HE changes and have benefited, heck no. People can do what ever they please. But it is a forced realization, necessary change, that if you wish to persist with the lazy cheapo tactics - good luck dealing 1/3rd less now.  HE, was a crutch used for people to mindlessly dig out opposition, in great position because they were  A)  unwilling to flank, uneducated in flank maneuvers, unaware in the map B)  Laziness, unwillingness to aimC)  If flanking is too dangerous, simply avoiding the hull down unit. D)  Too inexperienced, no idea where to go, avoiding place they go to all the time that mapE)  Want to cheaply damage enemies not even showing their hull, for ridiculous damage 500, well you are correct, I don't think 500 was common except for Jag pz and FVs. However, 250-350 were EXTREMELY common for a ridiculously long list.  Vehicles like 110E4 and Fochs 155 were doing 400 pretty regular. They didn't need to aim at all, just center of mass and blap. Didn't matter if 50m away or 550m, just contact the tank, no matter the tracks and gun barrel or  the  front turret.  While yes, if they had been using AP or premium ammo, and aimed and blap you for full damage instead, typically 750 you wouldn't be too pleased sure. But they put in the effort, and deserve that. They are working as gaming intended, as the core game mechanics wishes people to do, and rewards them for it. In addition, by putting themselves in position to land that aimed shot, its risk/reward because they are exposing themselves more for it, rather than quick peek no aimed-blap. And if the option doesn't even exist with premium shells against too heavily armored enemies, they should simply be avoided in these scenarios. Because even prior, if they were blap for hundreds of damage with HE, they'd typically be banging their HE attacker back with normal / premium ammo for full damage, equating a dumb trade no one with any measure of sanity should be doing, unless very necessary consequence.  HE re-work ahs been a great, skill ful addition to the game, that should be enticing people to act more meaningfully, not lazily.  

Draschel:  Someone is learning. How much has it been, 100 times you've been told exactly that? Learning is learning, though.  

Elias_K_Grodin: Hey Platoon, It's important to note that the Crew 2.0 description is still very much a work in progress. Feedback and sentiment is continually being collected as we continue to gauge both community opinions and results from the last sandbox test featuring Crew 2.0. There are a lot of posts and discussions that are emotionally charged but good constructive feedback and sentiment points out the good, the bad, and the ugly of what is being proposed. There are many posts that state "...the changes suck..." or "...Crew 2.0 will make me uninstall...." but it is A LOT more helpful to understand why it sucks or why it is a deal-breaker. Also, if you participated in the Crew 2.0 testing, check to see if you earned some rewards for your efforts here! "For every obstacle there is a solution. Persistence is the key. The greatest mistake is giving up!" - Dwight D. Eisenhower, United States Army

Hey_man_Gneis_shot: Hey Platoon, It's important to note that the Crew 2.0 description is still very much a work in progress. Feedback and sentiment is continually being collected as we continue to gauge both community opinions and results from the last sandbox test featuring Crew 2.0. There are a lot of posts and discussions that are emotionally charged but good constructive feedback and sentiment points out the good, the bad, and the ugly of what is being proposed. There are many posts that state "...the changes suck..." or "...Crew 2.0 will make me uninstall...." but it is A LOT more helpful to understand why it sucks or why it is a deal-breaker. Also, if you participated in the Crew 2.0 testing, check to see if you earned some rewards for your efforts here! "For every obstacle there is a solution. Persistence is the key. The greatest mistake is giving up!" - Dwight D. Eisenhower, United States Army

KRZYBooP:  Tier X is not meant to be profitable. Yes, you can do it without premium time and boosters, but it is not easy. 

The main reason why it's not profitable is so players filter back down and play lower tiers. This keeps players in more tiers than just tier X.  

Einzelganger7:
I do not complain about their looks, they are all amazing but I do not have any of the tanks featured in all these Battle pass seasons, I only play German tanks (because I want to) so for me is unnecessary to get those 3D styles from current and past seasons, this is why I said I'd play more if a German tank is featured in the future because at leas't I'd use it.

Draschel: Forgot mauschen, conqueror, T54, kamp panzer, K91PT.  Strategy won't work though. People are going to call down so many strikes on people playing thinking they are invincible Tier 8 premium tanks like S1, WZ120G, SU130PM, Skorpion G, Lorraine, progetto, STA2, Lowe, E75TS, Chrysler will spam premium rounds like crazy anyway

DeviouslyCursed:  Dude, just admit you can't handle the challenge of playing a hard to win fight. Being the sole green in that screenshot scares you so bad you have to platoon up all the time to avoid it. And you want SBMM so you will never have to face one. Poor, scared little man. And man, he's posting up a storm. Mommy must have ungrounded him and let him back on the internet.

Einzelganger7: I am at stage 31 of the first third, I haven't played much during the past three months. I am waiting for the time they put a German 3D style in a battle pass season to play more.

DeviouslyCursed:  Dude, it's like you summoned him. Maybe he's like BeetleJuice. Say his name 3 more times and maybe he'll go away!

DeviouslyCursed:  Except if you're better in an equal match, then the match really wasn't equal, now was it? SBMM will more likely come down to which good players are playing the OP tanks.  This guy says it best. 

DeviouslyCursed:  

Draschel: there is nothing wrong with a casual bunch, in enjoying themselves. That being said, it is important to understand this point, because there are limitations. Lots of limitations. Skirmishes are best served as a win. In terms of experience, war games points, industrial resource, and credits. Even Elo ranking. And in order to win discipline, composure, patience, direction are needed. Or the wins will only ever come against teams worse than yours. Play by play calling isn't needed tier VI of course, but discipline sure is. If casual is all that is pursued, all the power to you folks. Have fun and enjoy your nights, good luck.  I am just saying, effort is needed if the bunch desire to win more than they lose. 

DeviouslyCursed:  Those two are kind of all over, some servers one is ahead, but in another server the opposite one is. Some of the spreads are small, some are huge. The RU server has the AMX M4 mle. 49 1.6% above the Liberte, but on the US and EU servers the Liberte is leading. The 252U and the Defender are the only ones that has the standard tank higher each time and by about the same amount across all three servers. Actually, the Pz IV Ankou absolutely obliterates it's tech tree counterpart. Likely due to the crew starting at 100% though, and no grind.

Draschel: Count your blessings. The penetration used to be even less, until recent 

Jaguarz: Got me another sakura camo, cant complain but then I didnt bother trying to do the stuff

DeviouslyCursed:  Ok, this is much better. I don't use data to determine whether Random MM is "fair" or not, that's used mostly to go against the "it's rigged" nutters. Fair is a subjective thing. As I have pointed out multiple times, both Random MM and SBMM are each fair in the own way, and also unfair in their own way. Someone stating one is fair is an idiot if he doesn't expect the other side to come back with the opposing statement. You won't get anywhere because it is subjective. So because both are fair and also unfair, what should be discussed is the positives and negatives each side comes with, and whether it is worth changing the MM. This is where I have an issue with the SBMM fans. Most of them think it will fix steamroll/blowout/landslide battles. It will not. This is where the data comes in to play. This is where science and statistics matter, and "feels" should get thrown into the garbage. I don't care how hard one thinks steamrolls are caused by skill disparity, I don't care if they "feelz it in their bones" that it is true. It simply is not true. No changes to MM will fix this issue. Period. The other thing that is brought up is the skill mismatch games. Here again the SBMM argue in a dishonest fashion, calling them "certain wins/losses" when all data shows that they are not. The underdogs win some of the fights. Quite a few of them, actually. If you argue you want a challenge, nothing is more challenging than getting a team that's supposed to lose a victory. The SBMM fans then say that the matches are not fun. This is Neato's specialty as he has the data, and he can correct me if I'm wrong, but his data indicates the games basically play out the same, regardless of the skill levels of the teams, whether similar or mismatched. This is why he says the only way someone knows if they are having fun or not is if xvm tells them it is okay to have fun in this battle. You are basically telling us that data isn't going to fix the issues these players have presented. The problem is, SBMM won't fix it either. You are asking us to address a situation that simply is not real. Reality doesn't care if they think it's true. Reality doesn't care if they "know" it's true. Reality cares about what actually is true. The Random MM is not causing most of the issues they are complaining about.  The one valid argument against Random MM, is Win Rate differences. Good players win more under Random MM. This is true. But again, it is only a matter of opinion on whether there is anything wrong with that. Once it is pointed out that good players are not GIVEN and advantage, but create their own advantage by playing well, the SBMM proponent then inevitably goes back to one of the above arguments because they know stating a player doesn't deserve to win if they are playing well is kind of a prick thing to say. Also, they argue this despite the relatively tight win rate spread this game has.  SBMM will cause issues. As I have pointed out, players will be more likely to play their best tanks, or as that one purple player pointed out, that means an increase in the most OP tanks in the game. SBMM will cause win rates to tighten or go all the way to 50% (probably 49% if draws still count as losses) SBMM ill cause WG to have to reevaluate incentives for winning, because SBMM will allow you to literally do nothing and still get approx 50% win rate. SBMM will cause you to lose your ability to affect your win rate yourself. It will be a meaningless stat. 

DeviouslyCursed:   Still working on this, have to go back to work....