Developers posts on forum

TeriyakiTanker: So you don't know what you are talking about when you say the data NeatoMan provided is inadequate?  Yeah that is what I figured.....

KRZYBooP: Howdy Boom Jockeys,  Stage 2 as suggested above in the title is here and will be around for your amusement from 12APR21 until 19APR21.  Cease fire: Daily at 02:00-05:00 PT | 04:00-07:00 CT | 05:00-08:00 ET Here is a video to remind players of what Steel Hunter is all about.More information on this can be found HERE. 

_BobaFett: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

KRZYBooP: Howdy Boom Jockeys! Got some very special premium tier 8 Bat.-Chatillon Bourrasques available from 12APR21 until 30APR21. Starting at 48.99 and with a special 1998 ZZ 10 3D style. More information and glorious action shots can be found HERE. 

_BobaFett: It's highly coveted, it would make sense for them to take advantage of that.

_BobaFett: There are probably going to be a few of these polls throughout the Battlepass, but I just wanted to get a bit of info on where everyone currently is.

_BobaFett:  As with most things, turning it on and off again is the basic troubleshoot lol.

_BobaFett: HT No. VI

_BobaFett:  No clue what the issue is then. Sorry.

_BobaFett:  Generally speaking, it's an inferior 430U. No doubt you can make it work, but the presence of the 430U makes playing competitively difficult.

_BobaFett: Go to https://na.wargaming.net/personal/Click on the "Twitch" button and follow the directions to link your Twitch account.   You should be all set.

_BobaFett:  You missed the sarcasm twice, congratulations. By the way, have you ever heard of correlation does not equal causation?

_BobaFett: Why is it always the arty mains that miss the obvious sarcasm?

_BobaFett:  I'm afraid he's beyond help at this point.

TeriyakiTanker: My big problem with the pro SBMM crowd is that they refuse to answer questions, basically at all.  For instance if you are going to say NeatoMan's data is wrong you should rather easily be able to illustrate for a non-statistics person like myself why that is the case.

_BobaFett:  So much for not leaving dead threads where they were.

_BobaFett:  Yeah I don't understand it either. It's pretty obvious it's not on the client side, as everyone has been saying things about it. 

_BobaFett: I've thought about trying Planes but I haven't heard very good things about it. Might download it just to test; It's not that big anyway.

_BobaFett: I for one enjoy Steel Hunter. The Raven armor build is just too much fun.

_BobaFett:  Haven't been checking the forum these past couple days, eh?

TeriyakiTanker:
So of course you dodge the question, just want to point out that you criticized his data and his method but when challenged seem to be incapable of backing up your position.

TeriyakiTanker:
He will refuse to answer because he is not a statistician as claimed, just another in a long line of people who are all to willing to criticize your data and your conclusions without ever explaining why you are wrong.  Sort of sad actually.

DeviouslyCursed:  You are wrong. Players getting more wins under SBMM are getting more free wins for the same output. Period. Trying to rephrase it doesn't change that FACT.  SBMM gives better teammates to worse players, creating teams that are vastly different between players depending on your skill level. FACT Under Random MM my teams and any other player's teams are the same over time. There is no difference in my teams vs a 42% player's teams vs a 60% player's teams.  That is FAIR. Under SBMM the bad player will have better teams than me, and the great players will have worse teams than me. This is NOT fair. Your solution to use SBMM to reduce blowouts is a failure to understand what people are telling you (likely because of you next quote below). Statistically about 27 matches out of 100 are blowouts. SBMM with closer matched teams would yield about 24 per 100. So only a change of 3 matches per 100 games. That is not a reason to screw over the players that have made and effort to get better. Thank you again Neato, for linking the data. 

DeviouslyCursed:  Bold added. These two statements conflict with each other. If you really believe that last part, you are NOT a logical person, not matter how may times you claim it. What you are really saying here is: "I will believe what I want to believe and I will keep believing it regardless of any factual evidence presented. And since I can't see the inconsistencies in my thought processes I think I'm being logical, because it makes sense to me."

Draschel: lol......My advice is you are being hooked on frustration.Frustration occurs with everytank in the game, good or bad. You have played less games in your 907, 140 than your STB1, M48A, VTUJust give it some time, and learn more about the feel. 

Draschel:  Yes, the guy who should be at the algebraic and trig level of maturity, after a vast time of collected experience, asks what is 3+3 without apparently knowing the answer It is very much the same exact thing. While yes, not the most tactful or polite, if the answer was provided still, chances it wouldn't be learned and implemented.  

Draschel: Yes, they aren't being aggressive and dynamic. They are being -too- aggressive, and -too- dynamic. The super heavy tanks are cowering in fear in hard cover, TDs are using draw distances. So its the too aggressive guys, getting punished Arty should not be penetrating armor. Maybe few examples, like Hellcat or Grille or SU130PM. Arty needs its current ability to penetrate, severely diminished. It needs its ability to damage, reduced. But in doing so, remaining true to support, artillery still needs to be able to cause some and consistent damage  -  to make there a point in it. You cannot just be 100%, there needs to be some rigidity, some lethality.  -Insert Battle mechanics HE formula right here because it doesn't link- This adjacent nominal damage modifier, 0.5 needs to be changed to 0.25, 0.30, 0.35. Have testing periods like a Sandbox, to determine a suitable coefficient. Spall liner needs to be re-done totally to actually make it worthwhile, not in its current mechanical form. Spall liner functions quite differently than most believe, and I don't think it is useful at all except maybe for arty sponges to reduce crew deaths, rather than HE protection. If you wish to learn more of it, check out DezG's spall liner video. This reduces HE damage. However, the next part to keep them still relevant, to make them clutch and consistent, to remove extremes:Add minimum damage guarantees as arbitrary effect. No different than a tonne of other arbitrary min-max rules WG already has running. Add minimum damage guarantees to blast radius, setup in quadrants from explosion furthest point to epicenter, to thermosphere of explosion, to littoral zone of explosion, to directly adjacent within 1m, to direct hit. Say 2% 5% 10% 15%. This removes annoying  0  damage rolls, and keeps artillery relevant. This is a big boon to things like FV304 or Bat Chart SPGs, that have extremely difficult time dealing damage even with direct strikes. At the same time, the point before reduces the damages of things like GWE, Conqueror GC, T92, S51 I have done things I hate in my life for a long time. There isn't anything wrong with it. I am a professional. I value results. Nothing was unsubstantiated. You were provided examples. But if you want more, go to Vehicle Rating, over monthly posting, and see all the top artillery players. A common trend is clearly seen. Good still mroe or less lead, leaderboard. But in comparison to their actual tanks, their SPGs are quite poor.I look at considerable bad, 3-4-5K PR players, their SPG scores are very close if not meet or exceed their tank scores.  Yes, that is why I said, 4.5k. As their combined average. But you aren't taking into account sum of parts, but are again focusing on a part. You can average 3K for 1 week, than 5.5 k the next. That is why everyone great player values consistency No arty of yours currently matter, nor do they provide a specified effective grasp of what artillery limitations, capabilities. Simply put, they are elementary. SU5 and Bison for example have high burst radius for low tier, but are short ranged. No experience against turbo-mode armored cars (T8-) No experience of extra long reload rates, SU5 or Bison, the low tier high powered artillery, still fire 1+ rd/min more than highest DPM high tier artillery, Bat Chat 58. You don't have a good understanding of it. And needless to say, it is hard to take it seriously when someone says such a thing, that loiters beneath tier V and in SA. I mean, my opinion start to change, if you even attempted tier V. Because SU122, M41, Grille truly mimic actual heavy artillery.           

_BobaFett: That's rough.

DeviouslyCursed: A high explosion hell penetrating your tank and exploding in the small confines of a tank. Yeah, I'm betting all your crew should be just fine after that.

_BobaFett:  Huh, I'm able to create topics now. That's odd, I could've sworn I was not able to create topics in this section. I distinctly remember support referring me back to this section and telling me to create a poll here for the best chance of getting the feature I wanted implemented but I was unable to create a topic. Very strange...

Jaguarz:  a 308 vs a aluminium can which has a wall thickness of 0.01 inch (or 0.254 mm) would have an overmatch of a huge amount and wouldn't produce a riccocet or bounce in world of tanks either. Even the worlds smallest bullet (2.7mm) would pen an aluminium can according to overmatch rules of WOT having an overmatch of 10x+

_BobaFett: How are you even able to post in this section? I'm genuinely curious.

DomoSapien:

Was it not in the right place? :O

My bad, posted right before stream yesterday!

_BobaFett: Oh good, we needed another one of these threads back from the dead.

KRZYBooP: Bumping the thread to put it in the proper place.

TeriyakiTanker:
Like I said I would give it a shot, but you didn’t answer any of my questions.  It makes me think you are the one making stuff up and pushing an agenda.  So again, a non-statistician I would ask again that you explain exactly what is wrong with NeatoMans data as well what you think he should have done.

Jaguarz:  Why? You dont think say Manfred von Richthofen or Bazooka Charlies personalized vehicles had a psychological effect on the enemy? If something is different and successful then lore builds around it.

_BobaFett:  

_BobaFett:  Apparently my sarcasm was lost on people. It's fine, it was a meh attempt anyway. 

DomoSapien:

Hmm, looks like the campaign is active, but I don't see the anniversary style being deposited in your account logs. Have you tried relogging? I've got 1 more hour to watch before I get my anniversary style so I can check myself, but I haven't heard any mass reports of the drops not working from Contributors so it might be an isolated issue. In any case it couldn't hurt to submit a support ticket.

DomoSapien:
According to your account logs, you received the Day 1 and Day 2 Login bonus. If you have any lingering concerns, please don't hesitate to contact Customer Support. 

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DomoSapien:

I'm sorry to hear that. In my honest opinion, it's not bad for an anniversary of the NA server in particular. We already had the global World of Tanks 10th anniversary event, and sure it's no Tank Festival but considering we typically roll out Tech-tree-wide credit discounts a grand total of once a year, and we've never given away this many Type 59's - I think it's not bad. 

Also curious how a player with 0 battles and 1 forum post has knowledge of prior anniversary events, but... you are welcome to your opinion and I'm happy to add your feedback to the sentiment report for the event. 

 

_BobaFett:  The new player experience is brutal.