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Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?

Дата: 12.04.2021 05:00:42
View PostDeath_on_2_Treads, on Apr 11 2021 - 18:49, said: But they would result in LESS blowout matches. Blowout matches will always exist due to in game decisions etc, but by making the skill component more evenly distributed, you would reduce the number of matches that were blow outs based on bad MM. There is no perfect system. Lets be honest. People, in most cases, that don't want SBMM don't want to face players of like skill because the challenge would inevitably lower their stats, although that is in fact the definition of fair. Random, by definition is random, so it is sometimes fair and sometimes not. I think what people would like that favor SBMM is to tighten the randomness of matches to  lower the number of blow outs, if that makes sense. I don't think anyone wants free wins. Just remember, in skill based MM there is one of  each skill more or less on BOTH sides, so if a bad player is put on a better team in your scenario, there is a guy on the other team just like that who  plays a part in the win or loss so no one is getting a free win. 

DeviouslyCursed:  You are wrong. Players getting more wins under SBMM are getting more free wins for the same output. Period. Trying to rephrase it doesn't change that FACT.  SBMM gives better teammates to worse players, creating teams that are vastly different between players depending on your skill level. FACT Under Random MM my teams and any other player's teams are the same over time. There is no difference in my teams vs a 42% player's teams vs a 60% player's teams.  That is FAIR. Under SBMM the bad player will have better teams than me, and the great players will have worse teams than me. This is NOT fair. Your solution to use SBMM to reduce blowouts is a failure to understand what people are telling you (likely because of you next quote below). Statistically about 27 matches out of 100 are blowouts. SBMM with closer matched teams would yield about 24 per 100. So only a change of 3 matches per 100 games. That is not a reason to screw over the players that have made and effort to get better. Thank you again Neato, for linking the data. 

View PostDeath_on_2_Treads, on Apr 11 2021 - 23:17, said: I'm a simple logical person. [...]   Oh, and as for Neatoman's data, data says what people make it say.

DeviouslyCursed:  Bold added. These two statements conflict with each other. If you really believe that last part, you are NOT a logical person, not matter how may times you claim it. What you are really saying here is: "I will believe what I want to believe and I will keep believing it regardless of any factual evidence presented. And since I can't see the inconsistencies in my thought processes I think I'm being logical, because it makes sense to me."

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