Developers posts on forum

churchill50:  Have you not heard the news?This Campaign will have very few Reward tank slots. Meanwhile, the auction will have many more tanks available. Thus Rngfdme's "campaign is just for the top 10 clans now, and bond farmers". The top 10 clans will dominate the available Reward tank slots, while the bond farmers will dominate the bond auction. EDIT: Note that this is based off of a video that was leaked early for the Asia server. We're still not sure if NA will see the same type of changes, although it's likely.

churchill50: The Contract will continue into the new Season.Source: I've done several referral contracts in the past, some of which took quite some time for the Recruit to finish.

Draschel:  very interesting for someone to say such things with 60 battles himself. 

Draschel:  you don't have to show me the account name because i don't carebut can you show me the stats page of the account tier 8s? A question, is it playing to the level of 3k WN8? Are the 8s at least 2k+ DPG? We are looking for above average stats at least

Draschel: it has a strong turret and very good gun depression. It doesn't need the ricochet angle hull UDES 16 certainly doesn't hae the turret armor as tier X, but has more than M46, Centurion, AMX30. Why should it have ricochet UFP too? 

Draschel: Medium tanks increasingly are appearing with auto-ricochet angle hulls. Even if not very thick armor in itself. This in itself is a feature leading to more HEAT being used than otherwise not being used. I am will to forgive the Strv tank destroyers, since they are not very versatile and it is hard to use this ability feasibly and aggressively. So they can keep it. Is this a problem for heavies, well not for me, because respectfully on assault TD or heavy they should be getting shot in UFP anyway.  While T100LT and LT432 are not ricochet angle, they are extremely close and achieve it very easy. Thats why they bounce attack very common. Tanks like FV4202, the entire UDES medium line, CS63, prog65, AMBT - there are many. And while who am I, to judge what is fair or unfair in a very unfair game, all I am saying is it leads to alot of unusual HEAT usage generally one would not expect. Say for example, and UDES Alt getting spammed by heat by tier 6 tanks, despite not being known conventionally as a very armored medium. Or Prog65 by tier 8s. The clear counter would be, well learn to aim and shoot the LFP or turret which are weak. Well, has that work for UDES 15,16? And what about long, 400+ ranges where your shell just goes wherever it wants. All I am saying is,  if there were any care taken to look at features such as +2/-2MM, +/-25% rng span, removing ricochet angle hulls on light vehicles that shouldn't be getting them....premium ammunition use would drop in itself.  A far healthier attitude, at least being constructively and better for game health - than the usual approach by resident Mr. 105mm, complaining about premium ammunition itself, when his most played heavies are Super conquer and 705A. Nice. 

Jaguarz:  Just society represented in a microcosm, look at the stupid people posting on the forums, no amount of facts or logic will sway them from their stupid and selfish ideals. I mean I have that chosenfrozen person on ignore but all he seems to do is bleat the same thing in every thread all the while NOT playing for fun as he attests to, his game is just to wind other people up, the amount of time he spends haunting the forums and spamming that refresh button is hilarious, all time he claims is so valuable to him he cant get better by wasting time learning. But SBB and locked out content wont work anyway because people are aholes and will just run bots to smurf their accounts so they can rofflestomp people.

Draschel: 'fast'speed isn't what you want. You want accelerationGrousers won't do it justice, because the HP/T is snail Sure, going 50 downhill? And go 12 uphill too. 

Jaguarz:  You fool!!! Are you blind? Its right there in red at the bottom!! 

Jaguarz: Fell off the middle road Lakeville, blamed lag....

Jaguarz:  So you get the alpha and DPM of other TDs which dont have to coin toss penetration values based on where they hit? Awesome....

Draschel: Bisonte is not a fast heavy. It doesn't go to medium line. You over estimate mobility.If you are thinking the thing is like E75TS or Renegade or T77, it isn't.  More like 112,  lol 

Draschel: Back to Bisonte.  Bisonte is actually the better ridgeline fighter when in position, like overlooking sand river or West Field, or holding the new Berlin southern corridor. There is no contesting that. It simply has more view range, better pen, no cupola issue. But in other situations, Bisonte falls short in comparison to the others. Its extremely situational. I would, and as far as tank potential goes, others seemingly agree that you can make some sacrifices in fighting hull down, which needless to say Skoda and Somua already do quite well anyway, to being able to play better in other situations way better than Bisonte. 

Draschel:  All I read here was, if Stryker105 is on the enemy team, shoot gold shells at him.  Even if he is playing Bat Chat, Leopard, 13-105, artillery. Still, find him and shoot gold at him. In that order. 

Draschel:  Because Chieftain is a tonne more flexible.     it has Krans speed advantage and turret armor protection......but with having these features, it also adds a tonne more usefulness in having whopping 20m more VR and easier access to further skills like situational awareness. Whopping 20mm more side armor and side skirts, allowing chieftain to even see use as a makeshift side scrape tank when not in ideal position. The moment Kran turret even rotates 30 degress off centre its 120mm and vulnerable to even tier 8 225mm AP. Chieftains side of the turret is 175-215mm variable thickness and at that same angle still well over 300 effective. 230 more HP too. The Chieftain has CONTINENTS better gun handling in just about every category, to say 'better' is an understatement. Aim-time/velocity/dispersion control/accuracy which means it does not have focus into taking mandatory 2pieces gun handling equipment like Kran has to. Among the most important ever, Chieftain has APCR pen to threaten tanks like 110E3, 268V4, 279E that can literally stone wall Krans. All Kran is left with, is  burst fire. Yes, lets see where this goes if Ranked Battle reward vehicle restrictions are removed again. Does this make Kran a bad tank? Most certainly not. Its still a heavy with autoloader, DPM, gun depression, turret armor, speed and acceleration. These are too many qualities, and too good qualities in itself to be bad. But in older Ranked Battle, and CW even after buffs Kran can really show an ugly side of impotence. 300 pen HEAT the biggest issue.  

Draschel:  ''Isn't too good a tank.''  Where did I say bad? There are 4 categories, right? Bad, Meh, good, great. Lets equivocate bad, as your panzer wagons, Centurion AX. Where did I say it was one of those?Where was Kran when cheiftains and 279E were allowed?  Where is Kran, in clan wars? What do you do to 279E with 300 HEAT, when 279E frequently bounces 330 Kran is a Kranked centric tank. It is a flexible pub tank. But if we remove Ranked Reward Vehicle restrictions, what happens right after?  You didn't even read the forum thread. I acknowledged, clearly on many instances Kran does ''Kranked'' very well. But WHY does it do this very well? Why does it not do clan wars so well?  This is why you average 1.8k in tier 10s. What people are kind of Meh about if they even do in tier 8. You don't discern information properly.  

Draschel: I think he is correct. 100%. 268 is the best overall Tier X tank destroyer. But this isn't a grade on a written test.  In its combination of things, it includes good armor profile, good camo values, good gun handling, good mobility. But the thing is, it is a jack of all trades. Despite being above average, it lends itself to being not great in any 1 thing.We see this with Kran. It doesn't have the DPM, HEAT pen of T57. It also does not have the mobility and APCR of 50B. ....Kran sits in the middle, having some of the mobility of 50B, and some of the DPM from T57. But what Kran does add to its combination of things, is an autobounce angle hull, notable increase in side armor, and mad-hull-down. This is the one thing 268 doesn't have, a super duper hipper turbo ability to control games.    -It lacks armor like Badger and 268V4 and 110E3  -it lacks the extreme sneakiness ranged performance of Strv, no gun depression  -it lacks a turret like 114, Grille, or 110E4.  

Draschel:  He had some shorts in it, not sure how long ago. 2 years? He was comparing it to as good as Chieftain. You have to excuse Iyouxin's excitability though. He sort of gets lost in the moment.You can see this for instance, he's playing object 268 and his excitements through the roof. Absolutely loves the tank. Sure I think its nice too. But we all know 268 is average if anything He just completed his new ranked battle , Rankings video. He elaborated on 113 as being very 'meh'

Draschel:  Correct. These people don't like platooning. These are the people that think a match is 29 vs 1. Don't get me wrong, they don't play to lose. No no no noThey just seek to do EVERY SINGLE possible thing themselves, for their own benefit. There is nothing wrong with it, as you can see. By merely being so involved, guess what that leads to winning  

Draschel: Lets look at this through building blocks. Basic materials. What makes a strong tank. A burst fire heavy tank in this example. A ridge, support burst fire heavy tank.So automatically, we rule out IS3A, 703ii, IS2ii because these are breakthrough, non gun depression burst fire tanks.We will leave out 50-100, because that is basically a FCM50 with an autoloader, its a med.That leaves us Emil 1951, Somua, Skoda 56, Bisonte, T77.                 First category, gun handling.                 Every tank here sort of has bad gun handling. Like, there are no progetto in the bunch. T77 has the best overall accuracy if it can patiently aim its shots. Somua and Skoda have the most controllable dispersions.                 Second category, miscellaneous firepower.                All tanks have good gun dep, but bisonte and Emil have the most. Skoda has the strongest Alpha, and even has good DPM with it. Somua unloads very fast and has large burst damage capacity, good DPM. Bisonte and T77                       have outrageous pen values. Emil 1951 is pretty bad.                Third category, mobility                obviously Emil and T77 have near unmatchable mobility among the group.                 Fourth category, armor               These tanks do not have very good armor profiles for heavies. None of these tanks are in their element of armor usage, except when hull down. And this makes sense. A burst fire heavy shouldn't be popular for armor right?                 Fifth category, miscellaneous                Skoda has the most HP. Bisonte has the most view range.  I hate using Skoda 56 because its arguably the strongest tier 8 heavy. But these tanks have the same role, meaning they need to be compared. If Skoda didn't exist, lets go back in time a year. Somua is still better than Bisonte anyway               

Draschel:  I know. Exactly. Not by a single player. Thats why I listed a tonne of players.A control can be one element, unit, thing, entity. Sure it can be. Its what you base results off of in comparison.And since we are using a comparison of power, potential, infinity - the tank must be pushed to its absolute limits.This guy does not platoon, anyway. His goal is 3-marking tanks. He doesn't need platoon mates stealing his combined stats. I did a quick check with orzanel too. Guess what? You don't need to guess. Surprise surprise again, Somua / Skoda 56, on top of Bisonte. Renegade and Defender, on top too.I would not say its bad. Don't confuse bad with average. AT15, that is bad. But it is playable, average. Playable, average, isn't  ''very strong tank'' 

Draschel:  There is nothing to discuss. Tanks like Skoda 56 and Somua, crush Bisonte.           

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Draschel:  What difference would it make? If you are so quick to already dismiss people like quickybaby, Skill4ltu, Iyouxin. Or that account I just showed. Sir, what difference would it make. They are massively better than either of you, and do better in the vehicles I listed, not Bisonte.Regardless if I am here or not, to what may appear to you as ''badgering the witness'' the fact still remains? Bisonte is an average tank 

Draschel:  Please, do indulge me. In the last week I have had 2 nights of sitting in SH run by Somber, serbian, tamaga. According to Replays, which I always archive automatically, 17 battles. I did not see one Bisonte run. Do you want to know how many Skoda T56 were run? Do you need a hint?  

Jaguarz: There are 23 soviet premium/reward heavy tanks in the game currently, and several more on way and one crew can cover them all, crew 2.0 means you would need to find and organize six crews to cover the same number. This in itself would be an incredibly hard sell and thats ignoring the fact that there is no benefit for Wargaming in pushing this level of stupid in a game in retention mode. Either way I dont care, I can find plenty of other things to do if they push crew 2.0 live.

churchill50:  From what I've seen, it will most likely be this skin for the M60 as the reward for placing in the top x players:https://thedailyboun...aiser-3d-style/ The Chieftain, 907, VKK, and Carro skins will also most likely be available in the shop for fame points.

churchill50: Odd, last time they sold it the base package was only ~$20. Kind of scummy that you're now paying $20 extra for 2,200 gold. It's still a perfectly workable tank though. The HE is enough to pen plenty of targets at your tier (and since it pens it's not effected by the nerfed damage on non-pens). Add in Intuition and knowing when to shoot HE and when to shoot AP, and you have a pretty solid tank. 

1LT_Dwayne: I can't imagine humans are here since millions of years and some people believe wars are an agreement within the population. Why is the word conspiracy invented for anyway?

churchill50: I doubt we'll ever see either sales or buffs to Collectors tanks. Tanks like the T-62A and AMX 30B went there to die.

Draschel:  As I said, you have the right to not ''care'' about their opinions or astuteness. But that does not disqualify their level of astuteness and performance, from being less than yours. Which isn't the case, as its quite contrary, its far better  This is a common trend. I don't know why people resort to insulting nonsense. This has nothing to do with character. It has to do with performance squeezed out of a tank. 

Draschel: its obvious he just created a new account to troll people because his last was banned from the forums. Just report him and get that one banned too. Every single post of his he's lashing out at people. Just earn him his strikes. and don't bother encouraging him? Hes not worth a strike in returnIts been 6 months. The guy needs to start the process all over  

Draschel:  The problem with people like you, you talk too much. No substance, just talk. You haven't noted any credible source of info. Just useless slander. Because you don't know what you are talking about.

Draschel: learn how to read. 1,700 dmg in Tier 8 is 2012, bub. And that is your highest. People do that in 7s now. People do 2k+ in 8s, 2.5k for marking. Learn to play. Read the post, or don't post at all. 

Draschel:  If you want to ask his opinion, I can give you his name and clan TS. You can ask him yourself. Though he may laugh at your opinions and call you a scrub while at it. 

Draschel: Bisonte is average at best. Summed up. It can't hit anything, poor DPM, and its speed is a lie. While there are plenty more deserving tanks, due to Skoda and Somua.... I'd say Bisonte is even on deserving end of buffs.  Increase LFP to 120mm like UFP, +50 horsepower to engine  (Carro P.88 engine)  make accuracy 0.38 like Prog CS56 

Draschel:  That is the problem here. You think. I know. Knowing trumps thinking. Lets get on the same page here.  

Draschel:  This is an objectification of tank potential. Not your subjective take and effectiveness. Interesting to note, I can't explain why your Emil is doing what its doing, but your Skoda 56 is clearly doing more than your Bisonte, no matter what your words of discredit may suggest. Again, this is not a subjective feel. It is what the tanks are capable of.  I did not say GSOR was bad. I said there are other more popular autoloaders that don't have lethargic DPM. The purpose of an auto loader isn't DPM, because they burst enemies and have ultra DPM in that fashion. But when auto loaders combine their burst with FREQUENCY in being able to burst OFTEN, like say T57, Kran, progetto, Somua, Skoda 56, TVP its added usefulness. 

TeriyakiTanker: I’m not a huge WN8 fan myself because it doesn’t count assistance.  But their 45% win rate is not a MM issue and neither is the 253 average damage they do.  After 22k games you can’t use MM as an excuse for that kind of performance.  I would totally buy some kind of heinous internet connection or a physical handicap.  Those things do happen but not MM.

TeriyakiTanker: No good player ever said that.... Anyone below 45% is there because they are bad and I mean really bad.

Draschel:  What maneuverability? It just has a top speed it never goes unless downhill at 20% gradeThe track traverse is the same, HP/T is less, and terrain resistances just as bad. I am not saying active reloading autoloaders are bad. I am saying Bisonte platform is lackluster.               The accuracy is bad, on top of VERY BAD dispersion. When looking at balance, say something like T57, T77, Rhino....at the very least they have accuracy when fully aimed. But bad dispersion              The Bisonte, doesn't have accuracy OR dispersion values. It is literally a self propelled gun. 270 HEAT certainly has its uses, but do you really want to deal with 350m/s velocity change?When newer autoloading tanks are being released and/or buffed, with higher DPM too as progetto, Somua, Skoda 56, Swedish line - what is better than an autoloader? An autoloader that unloads more often Autoloaders aren't just good, because. There are reasons, and they get better when stacked with more things. CS 56 d.54, TNH105, GSOR, Lorraine aren't as popular as Somua, Skoda 56, Progetto, Bourratt. Or even tanks like 703ii. 

Jaguarz: and what did the batchat actually do? Because if he sat at the redline sniping and vulturing while rest of team did work then he splits xp with others.

Draschel:  Premium ammo does have downsides. You like just saying and thinking whatever you like to, rather than what is.This isn't a perfect game. It is not a balanced game, far from it. But before we choose to condemn premium ammunition, lets see to the ''why'' firstHow about we take care of armor models, +2/-2 MM, +/-25% MM first, and let premium ammunition usage drop on its own? Btw if you are so eager to accuse people of cheating. What is to stop people from accusing you of cheating. In this fixed system of finding the ''key'' to success, why doesn't everyone simply have this key and use it? Why are there always more bad than good, if ''good' is so easy as ammunition choice?  

Jaguarz:  No I said I missed that part of cross faction chat, at no point did I say I indulged in it or even instigated it Reading comprehension is hard yo