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KRZYBooP
Incoming! Capturing Kursk: art contest for some amazing prizes.
16.07.2021 20:33:12
Subject: Incoming! Capturing Kursk: art contest for some amazing prizes.
Link on message: #12876736
SymbiosisBC, on Jul 16 2021 - 11:20, said: Very disappointed there isn't a Performance Art category; I've been
told my T-34 impression is bang-on...
Link on message: #12876736
SymbiosisBC, on Jul 16 2021 - 11:20, said: Very disappointed there isn't a Performance Art category; I've been
told my T-34 impression is bang-on...KRZYBooP: It's not specific, but that qualifies for video under Digital
Art. 
KRZYBooP
Incoming! Capturing Kursk: art contest for some amazing prizes.
16.07.2021 19:51:57
Subject: Incoming! Capturing Kursk: art contest for some amazing prizes.
Link on message: #12876722
Link on message: #12876722
KRZYBooP: Howdy Boom Jockeys! Art contest that runs 19Jul 00:01- 19Aug
00:01 and winners announced on 23Aug the anniversary of the
Battle’s End.Players submit entries for separate categories (yes
you can submit more than one, but only entry per category.) Prizes
for each will depend on other player’s votes from Discord, Forums,
Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. Categories for the
contest: Diorama:Full battle scene featuring tanks used in the
Battle of KurskModel:(3D model kit, kitbashing, 3D print, Lego
brick medium, Paper sculpture, clay, Cardboard)Sketch:(2D
paper/canvas art, paints, oils, charcoal, pastels, graphite,
ink)Digital Art:(Photoshop, Videos, Photography, 3D sculptures,
Model Renders) Prizes for Contest: 1st: Object 252U
Defender & Kampfpanzer 07RH premium tank or Gold equivalent
Tanks come with 100% crew and Slot Boosters: 5x 200% 1hr Credit, Free XP, XP bonus 30 days WoT Premium Special T-34 tech tree style2ND: IS-2M & Panther /M10 or gold equivalent Tanks come with 100% crew and Slot Boosters: 5x 100% 1hr Credit, Free XP, XP bonus 7 days WoT Premium3RD: T-34-85M & Tiger 131 premium tanks or Gold equivalent Tanks come with 100% crew and Slot Boosters 3x 100% 1hr Credit, Free XP, XP bonus3 days WoT premium Honorable Mention for each Category: 5 Days Premium time Boosters 1x 100%1hr Credit |Free XP | XP bonus
Submit your entries to From_the_Forge@wargaming.net by 19Aug. 00:01 CT There will be 1st-Honorable Mention prizing available for each category meaning 16 players will get prizes for the Contest. Winners will be announced on the Forums and Social media ( Twitter, Facebook, Instagram) on 23Aug.Players will be contacted via email which they will need to enter their submissions. Good luck and I can't wait to see what everyone comes up with.
Tanks come with 100% crew and Slot Boosters: 5x 200% 1hr Credit, Free XP, XP bonus 30 days WoT Premium Special T-34 tech tree style2ND: IS-2M & Panther /M10 or gold equivalent Tanks come with 100% crew and Slot Boosters: 5x 100% 1hr Credit, Free XP, XP bonus 7 days WoT Premium3RD: T-34-85M & Tiger 131 premium tanks or Gold equivalent Tanks come with 100% crew and Slot Boosters 3x 100% 1hr Credit, Free XP, XP bonus3 days WoT premium Honorable Mention for each Category: 5 Days Premium time Boosters 1x 100%1hr Credit |Free XP | XP bonus
Submit your entries to From_the_Forge@wargaming.net by 19Aug. 00:01 CT There will be 1st-Honorable Mention prizing available for each category meaning 16 players will get prizes for the Contest. Winners will be announced on the Forums and Social media ( Twitter, Facebook, Instagram) on 23Aug.Players will be contacted via email which they will need to enter their submissions. Good luck and I can't wait to see what everyone comes up with.
1LT_Dwayne
Matchmaker Could Be Improved In About 20 Minutes of Work…
16.07.2021 19:34:29
Subject: Matchmaker Could Be Improved In About 20 Minutes of Work…
Link on message: #12876709
Suicidal_Enemy, on Jul 15 2021 - 03:23, said: I did and after awhile I was beating them, belts
don't mean crapanyways ......
Link on message: #12876709
Suicidal_Enemy, on Jul 15 2021 - 03:23, said: I did and after awhile I was beating them, belts
don't mean crapanyways ......1LT_Dwayne: If belt don't mean crapanyways then your martial art don't mean
crapanyways. Simple as that.
Einzelganger7
Update 1.14: Common Test 1 Incoming!
16.07.2021 17:41:35
Subject: Update 1.14: Common Test 1 Incoming!
Link on message: #12876642
Link on message: #12876642
Einzelganger7: Overall I like the content of the update, +1.
Elias_K_Grodin
Update 1.14: Common Test 1 Incoming!
16.07.2021 17:17:53
Subject: Update 1.14: Common Test 1 Incoming!
Link on message: #12876623
Link on message: #12876623
Elias_K_Grodin: Summer is heating up as we keep working to bring you fresh content,
Commanders! The first Common Test of Update 1.14 is going live
and will feature the long-awaited Czechoslovakian heavy tanks with
their hallmark unusual gameplay and autoloaders. The performance of
popular Premium vehicles was improved, and you’ll have the
opportunity to try out a fresh Random Battles map—Safe Haven. Plus,
you can explore our special training mode, Topography. Finally,
we’re changing the conditions of Personal Missions for artillery
and giving you a sneak peek of Frontline 2021. Jump in and share
your feedback! Details about Common Test 1.14 here!
Hey_man_Gneis_shot
Update 1.14: Common Test 1 Incoming!
16.07.2021 17:17:53
Subject: Update 1.14: Common Test 1 Incoming!
Link on message: #12876623
Link on message: #12876623
Hey_man_Gneis_shot: Summer is heating up as we keep working to bring you fresh content,
Commanders! The first Common Test of Update 1.14 is going live
and will feature the long-awaited Czechoslovakian heavy tanks with
their hallmark unusual gameplay and autoloaders. The performance of
popular Premium vehicles was improved, and you’ll have the
opportunity to try out a fresh Random Battles map—Safe Haven. Plus,
you can explore our special training mode, Topography. Finally,
we’re changing the conditions of Personal Missions for artillery
and giving you a sneak peek of Frontline 2021. Jump in and share
your feedback! Details about Common Test 1.14 here!
Elias_K_Grodin
G.I. Joe and Cobra Rejoin the Battle in World of Tanks
16.07.2021 17:16:03
Subject: G.I. Joe and Cobra Rejoin the Battle in World of Tanks
Link on message: #12876622
Link on message: #12876622
Elias_K_Grodin: Commanders! World of Tanks is relaunching a special
collaboration, and all of you can participate. Created by
Hasbro, G.I. Joe is one of the most popular action figure lines in
the world. Generations of kids in the U.S. and beyond played with
them and were captivated by the struggle of the international elite
spec ops team against their sworn enemies of Cobra, a multi-faceted
and masterfully coordinated global criminal network. Uncounted
millions of battles which have been fought with plastic action
figures (often commanded by present-day online tankers) have
elevated G.I. Joe to the status of a cultural phenomenon. The
famous adversaries from G.I. Joe and Cobra have come to World of
Tanks to settle their scores in their impressive vehicles, the
B.T.T. (having the same stats as the TS-5) and the B.O.A. (having
the same stats as the T-54 first prototype). Knowing is half the battle!
Hey_man_Gneis_shot
G.I. Joe and Cobra Rejoin the Battle in World of Tanks
16.07.2021 17:16:03
Subject: G.I. Joe and Cobra Rejoin the Battle in World of Tanks
Link on message: #12876622
Link on message: #12876622
Hey_man_Gneis_shot: Commanders! World of Tanks is relaunching a special
collaboration, and all of you can participate. Created by
Hasbro, G.I. Joe is one of the most popular action figure lines in
the world. Generations of kids in the U.S. and beyond played with
them and were captivated by the struggle of the international elite
spec ops team against their sworn enemies of Cobra, a multi-faceted
and masterfully coordinated global criminal network. Uncounted
millions of battles which have been fought with plastic action
figures (often commanded by present-day online tankers) have
elevated G.I. Joe to the status of a cultural phenomenon. The
famous adversaries from G.I. Joe and Cobra have come to World of
Tanks to settle their scores in their impressive vehicles, the
B.T.T. (having the same stats as the TS-5) and the B.O.A. (having
the same stats as the T-54 first prototype). Knowing is half the battle!
DeviouslyCursed
Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
16.07.2021 09:03:59
Subject: Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
Link on message: #12876502
SimplyPzB2, on Jul 16 2021 - 03:51, said:
Sigh.. so wrong.. - If my two player platoon had been replaced with two red tomatoes, my team would have had FOUR good players, to the enemy team's ONE good player. Still rigged. My toon was irrelevant to the rigging. Hurp durr... - -
Um, rigging implies "intent". WG knows the random mm creates a lot of unbalanced battles. They have yet to fix the issue, thus they've CHOSEN to allow it to continue - that's "Intent". Rigged.... - -
These ratios don't change under sbmm. The only thing that changes under sbmm is the elimination of 20%/80% ctw type battles. (I.e. no garbage battles). - -
Yeah, WG want "LEVEL PLAYING FIELDS" at the start of all battles. They've put massive efforts into balancing tank types, tank weights, hp, and tiers. Yet skill is 10x more important than all those combined. Ask yourself who would win: 15 purples in tier 8 tanks or 15 tomatoes in tier 10 tanks. We all now the purples would crush the tomatoes. - -
Welp, he's finally started typing pure gibberish. Poor little fella... 61% is the 'low end' of "unbalanced in my favor" yes. - My platoon does not pick the teams. That the random mm routinely gives my team more skilled players is 100% on the random mm. Under sbmm, it would be impossible for my toon to impact the skill balance between teams... - - Yes. So if it's 1 good/14 bad vs 1 good/14 bad, both good players have equal opportunity to win. Both good players have the same load to carry. Under sbmm, this would be 100% of all their battles. But under random, 15 bad vs 2 good/13 bad is common. I.e. sbmm battles can't be rigged in one team's favor. While that happens all the time in random. -
Link on message: #12876502
SimplyPzB2, on Jul 16 2021 - 03:51, said: Sigh.. so wrong.. - If my two player platoon had been replaced with two red tomatoes, my team would have had FOUR good players, to the enemy team's ONE good player. Still rigged. My toon was irrelevant to the rigging. Hurp durr... - -
Um, rigging implies "intent". WG knows the random mm creates a lot of unbalanced battles. They have yet to fix the issue, thus they've CHOSEN to allow it to continue - that's "Intent". Rigged.... - -
These ratios don't change under sbmm. The only thing that changes under sbmm is the elimination of 20%/80% ctw type battles. (I.e. no garbage battles). - -
Yeah, WG want "LEVEL PLAYING FIELDS" at the start of all battles. They've put massive efforts into balancing tank types, tank weights, hp, and tiers. Yet skill is 10x more important than all those combined. Ask yourself who would win: 15 purples in tier 8 tanks or 15 tomatoes in tier 10 tanks. We all now the purples would crush the tomatoes. - -
Welp, he's finally started typing pure gibberish. Poor little fella... 61% is the 'low end' of "unbalanced in my favor" yes. - My platoon does not pick the teams. That the random mm routinely gives my team more skilled players is 100% on the random mm. Under sbmm, it would be impossible for my toon to impact the skill balance between teams... - - Yes. So if it's 1 good/14 bad vs 1 good/14 bad, both good players have equal opportunity to win. Both good players have the same load to carry. Under sbmm, this would be 100% of all their battles. But under random, 15 bad vs 2 good/13 bad is common. I.e. sbmm battles can't be rigged in one team's favor. While that happens all the time in random. -
DeviouslyCursed: Once again, I'm at a loss for words. The stupidity in this
post, it's literally just heaped upon another heap. It's like you
gathered 1000 of the dumbest people together, collected their
thoughts, and put them all into one post. How can one
individual be this colossally stupid? I'm done for the night,
I can't take this anymore.
DeviouslyCursed
Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
16.07.2021 08:48:33
Subject: Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
Link on message: #12876500
SimplyPzB2, on Jul 16 2021 - 03:56, said:
Just for you Dev, just for you... (Hall of fame: Tier 9, Leopard PT A, 500+ battle count, Since 2014 timeline) -
- Sigh, I just
don't know. Dev says I suck at high tiers. Maybe's he
right. 10th, that's not even in the single digits.... -
Link on message: #12876500
SimplyPzB2, on Jul 16 2021 - 03:56, said: Just for you Dev, just for you... (Hall of fame: Tier 9, Leopard PT A, 500+ battle count, Since 2014 timeline) -
- Sigh, I just
don't know. Dev says I suck at high tiers. Maybe's he
right. 10th, that's not even in the single digits.... -DeviouslyCursed: Notice there is one player who is lowest, BY FAR, in damage
per game. Who is that? Someone is getting carried. I
wonder who that would be? Why don't you solo queue for a bit
and see where you end up.
Draschel
query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
16.07.2021 08:35:30
Subject: query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
Link on message: #12876498
aorticmojo, on Jul 16 2021 - 04:35, said: And it's estimated that hundreds of thousands have been killed by
tanks since their introduction but here we are playing a game that
glorifies their existence. Don't see you getting upset
about that.
Link on message: #12876498
aorticmojo, on Jul 16 2021 - 04:35, said: And it's estimated that hundreds of thousands have been killed by
tanks since their introduction but here we are playing a game that
glorifies their existence. Don't see you getting upset
about that. Draschel: Yes. And I call them very good, good, bad, very bad. They
aren't named after disease to scoff at. Besides the point,
these are tools of war, which....are for that purpose?
DeviouslyCursed
Matchmaker Could Be Improved In About 20 Minutes of Work…
16.07.2021 06:40:55
Subject: Matchmaker Could Be Improved In About 20 Minutes of Work…
Link on message: #12876452
TheRealSerapth, on Jul 15 2021 - 01:47, said: Half the bloody posts on this forum are about the matchmaker, for
or against SBMMing. The part that is most infuriating is,
this is obscenely easy to “fix” and it wouldnt make everyone
50% players like the doom sayers like to suggest. Its
extremely simple. Step 1. Use the exact same criteria
to choose teams. Grab X number of tanks of each tier so we
match heavies vs heavies, mediums vs mediums etc as well as
possible. Match maker chooses the exact same 30 tanks it would
choose today. No changes needed. Step 2. Each
time you are assigning a tanker to a team, note the PR of the
team you assigned. It’s a simple +1 or -1 calculation based
on what team is currently advantaged. Step 3. If team
A got a higher PR player then team B last time, next time
there is a “draw” in tank type, assign team B the next highest
available PR player of the current class from the existing
queue. Step4. Repeat until you assigned 15 players to
each side. Done. ————————- Its
not bloody difficult, it doesn’t render skilled players at a
disadvantage, it does however make the glaring stomps less
prevalent. Really, why is this such a difficult concept to
grasp. It’s literally just the same system as today’s just
taking account PR when tanks are even between teams. This one
small change would make many matches much more balanced,
something most players should want. Is it perfect….
No. Is it better than what we have today.., for non
stat padders I have to assume yes. Never let the pursuit of
perfect get in the way of good enough.
TheRealSerapth, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:02, said:
Ok, explain me then. I win more than I lose, and I want the system I just described, That’s because I care more about fun than winning, even though under this system I highly doubt I would winless (or more). I’d just enjoy the fairness of that matches more. Stomps suck, as both a winner and a loser. Again, said as someone more in the win column than the lose column. The whole it’s just scrubs that want fairness argument is pretty hollow
CAPTMUDDXX, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:55, said: Here is the solution to end all solutions and close the door on
this subject. 1. Remove MM altogether except for the queue. 2.
Every player that clicks battle will enter the queue. On the queue
page a Become Leader button will be added. Click on it to begin
choosing players for your team. If you just want to be a player do
nothing but wait to be chosen. 3. Once you click Become
Leader an opposing Leader on the same tier and type will appear,
You both see the others name, rating, type and tier. 4. From the
queue you will each select team members within the established type
and tier limits. The players in the queue will have an indicator
number, 1 to 5, next to their name. 1 = novice, 3 = average
and 5 = expert. 5. As the players are selected their name,
rating, type and tier appear to both leaders. 6. The selection
process continues until both teams are filled or 4 minutes pass. At
4 minutes the vacant slots will be filled from the queue
automatically with 1 rated players until the teams are complete. If
there are no 1s, 2s will be used and so forth. 7. Once the teams
are complete a random battle type and map will be chosen, players
placed on the map and the count down begins. 8. Play the battle and
have fun. There shouldn't be any objection to this. Every player
can be a leader of a team or a chosen player on a team. Every
team will be balanced to the the two leaders desires. Win, lose or
draw blame them for screwing you over. Now everyone complain
about a possible 4 minute wait for the battle match up you want.
Link on message: #12876452
TheRealSerapth, on Jul 15 2021 - 01:47, said: Half the bloody posts on this forum are about the matchmaker, for
or against SBMMing. The part that is most infuriating is,
this is obscenely easy to “fix” and it wouldnt make everyone
50% players like the doom sayers like to suggest. Its
extremely simple. Step 1. Use the exact same criteria
to choose teams. Grab X number of tanks of each tier so we
match heavies vs heavies, mediums vs mediums etc as well as
possible. Match maker chooses the exact same 30 tanks it would
choose today. No changes needed. Step 2. Each
time you are assigning a tanker to a team, note the PR of the
team you assigned. It’s a simple +1 or -1 calculation based
on what team is currently advantaged. Step 3. If team
A got a higher PR player then team B last time, next time
there is a “draw” in tank type, assign team B the next highest
available PR player of the current class from the existing
queue. Step4. Repeat until you assigned 15 players to
each side. Done. ————————- Its
not bloody difficult, it doesn’t render skilled players at a
disadvantage, it does however make the glaring stomps less
prevalent. Really, why is this such a difficult concept to
grasp. It’s literally just the same system as today’s just
taking account PR when tanks are even between teams. This one
small change would make many matches much more balanced,
something most players should want. Is it perfect….
No. Is it better than what we have today.., for non
stat padders I have to assume yes. Never let the pursuit of
perfect get in the way of good enough.DeviouslyCursed:
TheRealSerapth, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:02, said: Ok, explain me then. I win more than I lose, and I want the system I just described, That’s because I care more about fun than winning, even though under this system I highly doubt I would winless (or more). I’d just enjoy the fairness of that matches more. Stomps suck, as both a winner and a loser. Again, said as someone more in the win column than the lose column. The whole it’s just scrubs that want fairness argument is pretty hollow
DeviouslyCursed: The only thing worse than a SBMM is a half-a**** SBMM. Your
idea sucks. It's also telling that you think a SBMM of any
kind if going to reduce stomps/blowouts. The story of SBMM
proponents: too ignorant to know SBMM won't fix blowouts, yet too
stupid to listen to those that do know it won't fix blowouts.
CAPTMUDDXX, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:55, said: Here is the solution to end all solutions and close the door on
this subject. 1. Remove MM altogether except for the queue. 2.
Every player that clicks battle will enter the queue. On the queue
page a Become Leader button will be added. Click on it to begin
choosing players for your team. If you just want to be a player do
nothing but wait to be chosen. 3. Once you click Become
Leader an opposing Leader on the same tier and type will appear,
You both see the others name, rating, type and tier. 4. From the
queue you will each select team members within the established type
and tier limits. The players in the queue will have an indicator
number, 1 to 5, next to their name. 1 = novice, 3 = average
and 5 = expert. 5. As the players are selected their name,
rating, type and tier appear to both leaders. 6. The selection
process continues until both teams are filled or 4 minutes pass. At
4 minutes the vacant slots will be filled from the queue
automatically with 1 rated players until the teams are complete. If
there are no 1s, 2s will be used and so forth. 7. Once the teams
are complete a random battle type and map will be chosen, players
placed on the map and the count down begins. 8. Play the battle and
have fun. There shouldn't be any objection to this. Every player
can be a leader of a team or a chosen player on a team. Every
team will be balanced to the the two leaders desires. Win, lose or
draw blame them for screwing you over. Now everyone complain
about a possible 4 minute wait for the battle match up you want.
DeviouslyCursed: Okay, I stand corrected. This is far worse than
TheRealSerapth's idea...
Elias_K_Grodin
Results: Ranked Battles Season X
16.07.2021 06:29:23
Subject: Results: Ranked Battles Season X
Link on message: #12876441
Link on message: #12876441
Elias_K_Grodin: Thank you for participating in Ranked Battles Season X and sharing your
invaluable feedback, Commanders! Season X, the Ranked Battles
test season, has come to an end. We were able to collect a large
amount of data and feedback and we are starting the evaluation
process. It was an important trial that will have a significant
impact on the future of Ranked Battles. Thank you to everyone who
participated and has already shared their opinions on the changes.
We would still like to hear from you, and you can continue to share
your feedback through the provided questionnaires. In the
meantime, you may wish to review your performance for this round on
the leaderboard, and look forward to claiming your hard-earned
rewards! Details here!
Hey_man_Gneis_shot
Results: Ranked Battles Season X
16.07.2021 06:29:23
Subject: Results: Ranked Battles Season X
Link on message: #12876441
Link on message: #12876441
Hey_man_Gneis_shot: Thank you for participating in Ranked Battles Season X and sharing your
invaluable feedback, Commanders! Season X, the Ranked Battles
test season, has come to an end. We were able to collect a large
amount of data and feedback and we are starting the evaluation
process. It was an important trial that will have a significant
impact on the future of Ranked Battles. Thank you to everyone who
participated and has already shared their opinions on the changes.
We would still like to hear from you, and you can continue to share
your feedback through the provided questionnaires. In the
meantime, you may wish to review your performance for this round on
the leaderboard, and look forward to claiming your hard-earned
rewards! Details here!
Draschel
query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
16.07.2021 06:13:04
Subject: query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
Link on message: #12876432
Link on message: #12876432
Draschel: CoV-2 isn't a hemorrhagic fever. CoV-2 is easy street compared to
that, no more really fatal than a generic influenza, an outbreak of
hemorrhagic fever can usher in 90% fatality rate. Hospitals
wouldn't be complaining about bed availability, oxygen, mask and
sanitizer shortages - there would be body bags
everywhere we'd have to incinerate. You use something like that,
lightly?
Draschel
query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
16.07.2021 05:20:46
Subject: query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
Link on message: #12876381
Riphawk67, on Jul 16 2021 - 02:11, said: Lighten up Francis.
Link on message: #12876381
Riphawk67, on Jul 16 2021 - 02:11, said: Lighten up Francis. Draschel: 11,000 people in 2014 alone, wish they still had the
opportunity to lighten up, but can't.
Draschel
query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
16.07.2021 04:09:26
Subject: query: Minefields and FrontLine and wheeliEbola..oh MY!
Link on message: #12876325
Link on message: #12876325
Draschel: Thousands of people have passed away from Ebola, many in
very unpleasant state, and not because they chose to. I don't
it is very fitting or cultured, to make remarks like that.
DeviouslyCursed
Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
16.07.2021 01:46:43
Subject: Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
Link on message: #12876175
Death_on_2_Treads, on Jul 15 2021 - 17:12, said: On this we can agree: everyone should stop using the word
rigged. People only make themselves sound like a tinfoil
hat conspiracy theorist when you say that. The matchmaker (for all
its faults) is not out to get you and no one is deciding that
before team selection takes place you will be the loser or winner.
It picks teams randomly, with the exception of tank type and
tier, which it gives equal attention to per team. It then
distributes players in a total random manner, without regard to
race creed, color, or most importantly to some, skill. Upon that
distribution, and argument can be made that the outcome has been
predetermined by the team composition in some cases. I would argue
that it has been "more than likely predetermined", because any
match is winnable, however slim the odds are. That is where the
debate is, as some people benefit form this randomness, and
some do not. The match is not rigged though. it is random, which is
not rigged.
Link on message: #12876175
Death_on_2_Treads, on Jul 15 2021 - 17:12, said: On this we can agree: everyone should stop using the word
rigged. People only make themselves sound like a tinfoil
hat conspiracy theorist when you say that. The matchmaker (for all
its faults) is not out to get you and no one is deciding that
before team selection takes place you will be the loser or winner.
It picks teams randomly, with the exception of tank type and
tier, which it gives equal attention to per team. It then
distributes players in a total random manner, without regard to
race creed, color, or most importantly to some, skill. Upon that
distribution, and argument can be made that the outcome has been
predetermined by the team composition in some cases. I would argue
that it has been "more than likely predetermined", because any
match is winnable, however slim the odds are. That is where the
debate is, as some people benefit form this randomness, and
some do not. The match is not rigged though. it is random, which is
not rigged.DeviouslyCursed:
We should stop using the word "rigged," but there is a problem with that. You see, SimplySimple uses that word specifically because of the negative connotations associated with it. He is clearly not above intellectual dishonestly or outright lying to further his agenda. So, that's why you will see him continue to use that word. And also why you will see him post the same few extreme skill mismatch example screenshots over and over again, all while claiming they are common occurrences.
We should stop using the word "rigged," but there is a problem with that. You see, SimplySimple uses that word specifically because of the negative connotations associated with it. He is clearly not above intellectual dishonestly or outright lying to further his agenda. So, that's why you will see him continue to use that word. And also why you will see him post the same few extreme skill mismatch example screenshots over and over again, all while claiming they are common occurrences.
LargeForeignObject
Season 16 Playoffs Streamers - Day 3
16.07.2021 01:39:28
Subject: Season 16 Playoffs Streamers - Day 3
Link on message: #12876161
Link on message: #12876161
LargeForeignObject: Tankers, The playoff stage of the Season 16 Playoffs starts
tonight (7/15)!. 8 matches will be played in the Round of 16,
winners will advance to the Quarterfinals. Battles will start
at:
18:00 PT | 20:00 CT | 21:00 ET I am creating this post for players that are streaming tonight's battles to provide links to their streams and maybe a little additional information (other posts will be removed). Also, I will be suggesting that all players stream on a 15 min delay to prevent stream sniping. Rules and additional info can be found in the MegaThread. GL HF,LFO
18:00 PT | 20:00 CT | 21:00 ET I am creating this post for players that are streaming tonight's battles to provide links to their streams and maybe a little additional information (other posts will be removed). Also, I will be suggesting that all players stream on a 15 min delay to prevent stream sniping. Rules and additional info can be found in the MegaThread. GL HF,LFO
Einzelganger7
Poll: Do you support tier 9's in Frontline?
15.07.2021 23:33:02
Subject: Poll: Do you support tier 9's in Frontline?
Link on message: #12876033
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Einzelganger7: I'd support it if they were available to defend the last areas as a
last resistance but just by capturing one area of the second
defensive line is too early, also tier 9 should have only one
combat reserve to compensate.
Einzelganger7
Frontline 2021: What’s New?
15.07.2021 17:54:20
Subject: Frontline 2021: What’s New?
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Einzelganger7: I do not mind honestly, though it clearly seems like wargaming
wants premium spam in this mode as well and this is why they add
tier 9s, there are some tanks that can't pen tier 9 medium tanks
even with premium (IS-6, WZ heavy, etc).
Elias_K_Grodin
Frontline 2021: What's New?
15.07.2021 17:34:41
Subject: Frontline 2021: What's New?
Link on message: #12875639
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Elias_K_Grodin: Have you missed epic 30v30 tank clashes,
Commanders? Frontline, one of the most exciting modes in World
of Tanks, will return with several adjustments. One week-long
Stage awaits you each month, from August through November 2021.
(Note that Frontline will be unavailable between these
Stages.) Learn all the details and precise specifications
here!
Hey_man_Gneis_shot
Frontline 2021: What's New?
15.07.2021 17:34:41
Subject: Frontline 2021: What's New?
Link on message: #12875639
Link on message: #12875639
Hey_man_Gneis_shot: Have you missed epic 30v30 tank clashes,
Commanders? Frontline, one of the most exciting modes in World
of Tanks, will return with several adjustments. One week-long
Stage awaits you each month, from August through November 2021.
(Note that Frontline will be unavailable between these
Stages.) Learn all the details and precise specifications
here!
Adam_Antium
Línea del Frente... ¿Eliminada?
15.07.2021 16:11:35
Subject: Línea del Frente... ¿Eliminada?
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Adam_Antium: Solo vengo a dejar esto aquí: 
Draschel
Wargaming really programmed racism into the game? Take a look at screenshots...
15.07.2021 06:50:23
Subject: Wargaming really programmed racism into the game? Take a look at screenshots...
Link on message: #12875412
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Draschel: What if it it is meant as..... Jewish hunter.Not someone who
hunts the people, in above interpretation.But as that person's
nationality, who himself or herself hunts.
Draschel
Best Crew Skill/Equipment for M103 and T110E5 (2021)
15.07.2021 04:53:25
Subject: Best Crew Skill/Equipment for M103 and T110E5 (2021)
Link on message: #12875336
Grillo_Parlante, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:43, said: Skill thought that it was equal to half a vert. stab.
I'm not sure that he still does, but that was his reason for
running it. I love skill, but he isn't a math guy.
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Grillo_Parlante, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:43, said: Skill thought that it was equal to half a vert. stab.
I'm not sure that he still does, but that was his reason for
running it. I love skill, but he isn't a math guy.Draschel: he is quite good with the math, actually.He doesnot question
the math, over gun handling. He runs it for different
reasons, ''more agile'' is often the exact quote.
Draschel
Gold Ammo and Balance
15.07.2021 04:49:07
Subject: Gold Ammo and Balance
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RickEdwards, on Jul 14 2021 - 15:09, said: And yet you chime in. Enjoy losing your precious, undeserved
stats when they finally do nerf gold.
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RickEdwards, on Jul 14 2021 - 15:09, said: And yet you chime in. Enjoy losing your precious, undeserved
stats when they finally do nerf gold.Draschel: When they do think of that, and they have already....and
decide they are willing to chance getting massively swamped
in return complaints over consumers objecting the changes to
their premium tank hard statistical nerfs - well you
get the point. Talk to me then, about it. I remember clearly, the
uproar of suka pershing, Type 59 alone. Now add every other
premium too, onto that list. By the way, HE nerf didn't even nerf
premium tanks. It nerfed *HE* not the physical tank itself.
No premium tank, actually had its HE pen, damage, velocity, Etc
changed. WG is smart, they avoid that sort
of stuff. and by the way, taking away
premium shell penetrations for full damage won't make great
players bad. And you know it. And it won't make
heavy tank players who complain about being penetrated by them all
the time good, either. It is an illusion, why hold onto
it?
Draschel
Best Crew Skill/Equipment for M103 and T110E5 (2021)
15.07.2021 04:32:37
Subject: Best Crew Skill/Equipment for M103 and T110E5 (2021)
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Draschel: I started replacing stabilizer already for rotators.
Rotator boosts meds because of %+ bonus slot, there is
underlying value that way. Unless exceptionally bad gun handling
tanks, like a T34 heavy, batchat or T57 or old WZ120 unbuffed
that are/were ridiculous with the dispersion. Chunky meds like
E50M, Cent AX, 121 gain a sorely needed close quarters combat
mobility bonus from rotator, E50M certainly needs the turret
rotation help. Heavy tanks gain it huge too with turret traverse
rate, not leaving them so vulnerable when tracked. kranvan,
is7, WZ11111111115A, 277, 260 definitely feel like meds driving
around with their mobility, but they still keep *heavy* tank
turret rotation, which is annoying against flankers. skill4ltu
I have seen plenty of times, dropping stabilizer and
running ventilation/rotator/rammer setup. He is certainly
better than me, and it validates the choice.
DeviouslyCursed
Why do players like this bother at all?
15.07.2021 04:13:30
Subject: Why do players like this bother at all?
Link on message: #12875310
TheRealSerapth, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:07, said: Because I find the current 15-0 simulator boring? Yes over
1000 or 10000 or 100000 games, it advantages me. My stats get
padded and I win more… YAY! In the meanwhile I had to endure
how many boring matches needlessly? It’s pretty simple,
spreading the unicums and terribad tomatoes out between two sides
will result in a more even playing field. Lets put it
as simple as I can… I would rather have a lower WinRate if
it meant more competitive and enjoyable games. If watching
numbers go up was my priority, I could save a lot of time, money
and effort and just jerk off to an Excel spreadsheet.
Link on message: #12875310
TheRealSerapth, on Jul 15 2021 - 02:07, said: Because I find the current 15-0 simulator boring? Yes over
1000 or 10000 or 100000 games, it advantages me. My stats get
padded and I win more… YAY! In the meanwhile I had to endure
how many boring matches needlessly? It’s pretty simple,
spreading the unicums and terribad tomatoes out between two sides
will result in a more even playing field. Lets put it
as simple as I can… I would rather have a lower WinRate if
it meant more competitive and enjoyable games. If watching
numbers go up was my priority, I could save a lot of time, money
and effort and just jerk off to an Excel spreadsheet.DeviouslyCursed: We argue against SBMM because balanced matches don't reduce
blowouts. You are wanting SBMM to fix something it won't fix, but
yet we'd get all the negatives that come along with it.
DeviouslyCursed
Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
15.07.2021 03:52:55
Subject: Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
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SimplyPzB2, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:20, said: It's sad when people resort to lying, rather than admitting they
are wrong. Look up one post to see the screenshot of one of
my battles. The battle was clearly rigged by the random
mm. But it had nothing to do with my platoon. The fact
that I was in a platoon had ZERO effect on how badly that battle
was unbalanced.
SimplyPzB2, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:21, said:
No, go on, tell us all how my two-man green-skilled platoon made the sample battle unbalanced...
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SimplyPzB2, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:20, said: It's sad when people resort to lying, rather than admitting they
are wrong. Look up one post to see the screenshot of one of
my battles. The battle was clearly rigged by the random
mm. But it had nothing to do with my platoon. The fact
that I was in a platoon had ZERO effect on how badly that battle
was unbalanced. DeviouslyCursed:
SimplyPzB2, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:21, said: No, go on, tell us all how my two-man green-skilled platoon made the sample battle unbalanced...
DeviouslyCursed: By including a green partner, you guarantee that one spot on
your team is a green rather than a random teammate. A random
teammate could be anything, but is likely to be an orange or yellow
player, with about a 48% win rate. Also, the MM tends to match
# of platoons, so if you had not been platooned, the horrible enemy
platoon of orange 44% and 47% players likely would not have been in
the fight. Instead they would be replaced by random players, and
while no guarantee, they likely would have been better players than
what was there. So by platooning with a good player you set 1
good player on your team, and 2 really bad players on the other
team. So yes, your platoon made the match even more skewed than it
would have been. This is very easy to understand, so it
doesn't surprise me that it is beyond you...
DeviouslyCursed
Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
15.07.2021 03:32:04
Subject: Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?
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SimplyPzB2, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:20, said: It clearly was rigged against the amx. The definition
of rigging a game is putting all the skill onto one team. My
team had SIX green-skilled players, the amx was the ONLY
green-skilled player on his team. That's rigged. -
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SimplyPzB2, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:20, said: It clearly was rigged against the amx. The definition
of rigging a game is putting all the skill onto one team. My
team had SIX green-skilled players, the amx was the ONLY
green-skilled player on his team. That's rigged. -DeviouslyCursed: That is not the definition of rigging. The match was not
rigged. I think the word you are looking for is
"predetermined," but even then there is no 100% guarantee one side
will win, no matter what the line-up. But it's not
rigged. Only an idiot would say that. Let's look up
synonyms for each word... Rigged: manipulate; arrange
fraudulently; interfere with; influence; gerrymander; juggle;
massage; distort; misrepresent; pervert; maneuver; tamper with;
tinker with; doctor; falsify; forge; fake; engineer; trump up; fix;
cook; fiddle Predetermined: prearranged; set; fixed; preset;
pre-agreed; pre-established; preplanned; redecided; agreed; settled
Skill imbalanced matches in Random MM sounds much more like
"predetermined" than "rigged." In fact, "rigged" sounds like
what you do with your statistics: "manipulate; arrange
fraudulently; distort; misrepresent; pervert; falsify; forge;
fake..."
1LT_Dwayne
Proof SBMM is Unfair
15.07.2021 02:23:11
Subject: Proof SBMM is Unfair
Link on message: #12875224
Nixeldon, on May 21 2021 - 11:03, said: Turn off XVM and your problem is solved. It's a color issue, not a
balance issue.
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Nixeldon, on May 21 2021 - 11:03, said: Turn off XVM and your problem is solved. It's a color issue, not a
balance issue.1LT_Dwayne: Not really. When the battle start you just need 1 minute to see it.
Probably even less time when you are a purple player.
1LT_Dwayne
What is the justification for +/-2 matchmaking?
15.07.2021 02:12:45
Subject: What is the justification for +/-2 matchmaking?
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Astralite, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:48, said: Hurr durr queue times Like this stupid MM doesn't already
take 2-3 minutes anyways.
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Astralite, on Jul 14 2021 - 23:48, said: Hurr durr queue times Like this stupid MM doesn't already
take 2-3 minutes anyways.1LT_Dwayne: I don't think this is the case because if this was true the mm in
russian server could have +-10 tier.
DeviouslyCursed
I get it you use cookies
15.07.2021 01:05:42
Jaguarz
Wargaming Shutting down US operations?
15.07.2021 00:43:29
Subject: Wargaming Shutting down US operations?
Link on message: #12875138
DrWho_, on Jul 14 2021 - 22:09, said: Cyprus is inside the EU and if this story checks out, and to
be honest I'm not entirely sure it does because the only sources
I've seen so far are not exactly reputable financial sites that
I've heard of, then I read somewhere that this thing is also under
investigation in the EU and if that's true then yes they are in
deep dodo. It wouldn't surprise me bit if the WG is involved in
something fishy because that's why you have a bank in Cyprus, it's
one of the few places withing EU where the laws are so lax you can
get away with just about anything, most of the gambling sites in
Europe have their financial HQ there
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DrWho_, on Jul 14 2021 - 22:09, said: Cyprus is inside the EU and if this story checks out, and to
be honest I'm not entirely sure it does because the only sources
I've seen so far are not exactly reputable financial sites that
I've heard of, then I read somewhere that this thing is also under
investigation in the EU and if that's true then yes they are in
deep dodo. It wouldn't surprise me bit if the WG is involved in
something fishy because that's why you have a bank in Cyprus, it's
one of the few places withing EU where the laws are so lax you can
get away with just about anything, most of the gambling sites in
Europe have their financial HQ thereJaguarz: Wargaming and the bank they bought are based in Nicosia,
which is in North Cyprus, which is not in the EU, its a state
backed up by and only recognized by Turkey.
Jaguarz
Wargaming Shutting down US operations?
15.07.2021 00:41:32
Subject: Wargaming Shutting down US operations?
Link on message: #12875136
HeisenbergWOTS, on Jul 14 2021 - 20:00, said: That is all completely moot. If you really think Turkey
gives a hoot about some Russian guys getting their assets taken
because they laundered dirty money then you're sadly mistaken.
The amount of shilling here for Wargaming is simply unreal.
Really. It is. They're not a World Player. Nobody is when you're
looking down the barrel of a money laundering investigation. They
have taken down people 1000 times richer than Victor Kislyi ever
dreamed of being. If they find that Wargaming did launder
money, they're going down hard. Best case scenario, they still have
a game in Russia but no way for anybody to pay anything for it from
the rest of the planet.
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HeisenbergWOTS, on Jul 14 2021 - 20:00, said: That is all completely moot. If you really think Turkey
gives a hoot about some Russian guys getting their assets taken
because they laundered dirty money then you're sadly mistaken.
The amount of shilling here for Wargaming is simply unreal.
Really. It is. They're not a World Player. Nobody is when you're
looking down the barrel of a money laundering investigation. They
have taken down people 1000 times richer than Victor Kislyi ever
dreamed of being. If they find that Wargaming did launder
money, they're going down hard. Best case scenario, they still have
a game in Russia but no way for anybody to pay anything for it from
the rest of the planet.Jaguarz: Whats that got to do with anything? I pointed out nothing
more than how the company is in a geopolitically unstable area,
interwoven in a bank of all things. I couldnt give a flying F about
wargaming but you are desperately trying to convince yourself of a
weird narrative that you want to be real. You clearly arent very
bright as have little concept of how these things work, even banks
which have been found guilty of money laundering get nothing more
than a slap on the wrist and a fine like Deutsche Bank, Goldman
Sachs and craploads of others. Your "best case scenario" is
comically delusional. Please, let us all know of these
trillionaires that you claim have been taken down by run of the
mill AMLs, given that Victor Kislyi's net worth is estimated to be
around a billion dollars.
DeviouslyCursed
I get it you use cookies
14.07.2021 22:48:15
Subject: I get it you use cookies
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DeviouslyCursed: Someone said on the thread I made about this, that if you go to the
main WoT website and accept it there then it sticks. Worth a shot.
Elias_K_Grodin
Casual Boops Commentary: Summer Sale Day 1
14.07.2021 22:23:40
Subject: Casual Boops Commentary: Summer Sale Day 1
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Casual_Boops, on Jul 14 2021 - 08:38, said: Day 1 of the 2021 Summer Sales --- the Lorraine 40t up for grabs.
No reduction in price, but a solid tank for those that like speed
and autoloaders and hate armor. Check back each morning for the
next mini-tank-review.
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Casual_Boops, on Jul 14 2021 - 08:38, said: Day 1 of the 2021 Summer Sales --- the Lorraine 40t up for grabs.
No reduction in price, but a solid tank for those that like speed
and autoloaders and hate armor. Check back each morning for the
next mini-tank-review. Elias_K_Grodin: Great stuff and thanks for sharing!!
Hey_man_Gneis_shot
Casual Boops Commentary: Summer Sale Day 1
14.07.2021 22:23:40
Subject: Casual Boops Commentary: Summer Sale Day 1
Link on message: #12874979
Casual_Boops, on Jul 14 2021 - 08:38, said: Day 1 of the 2021 Summer Sales --- the Lorraine 40t up for grabs.
No reduction in price, but a solid tank for those that like speed
and autoloaders and hate armor. Check back each morning for the
next mini-tank-review.
Link on message: #12874979
Casual_Boops, on Jul 14 2021 - 08:38, said: Day 1 of the 2021 Summer Sales --- the Lorraine 40t up for grabs.
No reduction in price, but a solid tank for those that like speed
and autoloaders and hate armor. Check back each morning for the
next mini-tank-review. Hey_man_Gneis_shot: Great stuff and thanks for sharing!!
Jaguarz
EU You Tuber on Chieftain Controversy
14.07.2021 22:01:23
Subject: EU You Tuber on Chieftain Controversy
Link on message: #12874937
XOIIO, on Jul 14 2021 - 18:31, said: So what's the kerfuffle about this tank?
Link on message: #12874937
XOIIO, on Jul 14 2021 - 18:31, said: So what's the kerfuffle about this tank?Jaguarz: Its broken to the extent its no longer being offered in clan
garbage which makes people who dont have it mad as there is no
avenue to obtaining it currently. To be fair its not grossly broken
and a tweaking of its mobility to maintain its strengths but reduce
its flexibility would solve a great deal.
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