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Subject: WGLNA Open Cup Group Stage Standings
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dance210: WGLNA Open Cup 2 of 5 Group Stage Standings Top 50% of teams move
on to Week 2 *Note: Standings are not final until after battles
Group Stage Rounds 1 + 2 are finished. Round 1 +
2 Rank Team Games Played Points Earned Points Possible Points
Earned: Points Possible 1 The SDD 13 39 39 1.000 2 Belligerent
Tankers Union 14 37 42 0.881 3 3CAB 14 36 42 0.857 4 The Giggity's
13 33 39 0.846 5 RED_K 13 32 39 0.821 6 The Devils Brigade 14 34 42
0.810 7 Michael Westen Overdive 13 31 39 0.795 8 Dream Killers 14
33 42 0.786 9 [-SMB-] Compañia 13 30 39 0.769 10 The NADDtastic 7
14 32 42 0.762 11 horse 13 27 39 0.692 11 RGA 13 27 39 0.692 11
Saved by the Shell 13 27 39 0.692 14 MONGOL 14 29 42 0.690 15 Tater
salad! 13 26 39 0.667 16 Força Blindada Brasileira(-FBB-) 14 27 42
0.643 16 Washington Battalion, L.Brigade 14 27 42 0.643 18
Crossfire 13 25 39 0.641 18 Death From Men In Turrets 13 25 39
0.641 20 MAS WARRIOR 14 25 42 0.595 20 MIRMIDOES 14 25 42 0.595 22
ATOMS 14 24 42 0.571 23 3Cab Blue Team 14 23 42 0.548 23 MNG 14 23
42 0.548 25 The Unbound Legion 13 21 39 0.538 26 -MN- 14 22 42
0.524 27 DoomDeath 14 21 42 0.500 28 Сruiser Aurora 13 19 39 0.487
29 SATBR 13 18 39 0.462 30 Sinful Delights 13 17 39 0.436 31 BOSS
GAMING 13 15 39 0.385 31 GOFD 13 15 39 0.385 31 Hell DoG`s 13 15 39
0.385 34 DEBB 14 16 42 0.381 35 ABEL Cruch!!!!! 13 14 39 0.359 35
Prodigy 13 14 39 0.359 37 Cranberry Maple 14 14 42 0.333 38 O_F_B
14 13 42 0.310 39 Counter Karma Strike 13 12 39 0.308 39 CTEE
Compañia Elite 13 12 39 0.308 41 !!!_TICKLE_!!! 13 10 39 0.256 42
FUDEL 14 10 42 0.238 43 RSG 14 9 42 0.214 43 Time to Win 14 9 42
0.214 45 Canadian Tactical 1 13 8 39 0.205 46 CABRA 14 6 42 0.143
47 SOLID army 13 5 39 0.128 48 Ricochet 13 4 39 0.103 49 LOS HIJOS
DEL FARAON 13 3 39 0.077 50 ! cbl 14 2 42 0.048 51 CAVALO DE TROYA
14 1 42 0.024 51 MCLOVINS 14 1 42 0.024 51 TIGAS 14 1 42 0.024 54
ARAVT 13 0 39 0.000
Subject: Clan Wars Map Exhibition: Stalingrad
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xSemperKillx, on Jan 10 2015 - 20:53, said: GG tonight OTTER, but with you winning all matches, surprised at
your view of the map. After our match with you and JIMBO, we were
able to tweek a bit of stuff and win out. So i think the Map is a
fun map, and would be a nice new addition to CW's
Allu_o7o7o7, on Jan 10 2015 - 18:47, said: Many of us played this map for the first time tonight. We
would like to provide you feedback that this map is terrible. The
explanation would be that my e-tank shins feel bloody and
bruised like I've been forced to run laps in a well
stocked coffee table shop blindfolded while using my own
yelps of pain for echolocation.
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xSemperKillx, on Jan 10 2015 - 20:53, said: GG tonight OTTER, but with you winning all matches, surprised at
your view of the map. After our match with you and JIMBO, we were
able to tweek a bit of stuff and win out. So i think the Map is a
fun map, and would be a nice new addition to CW'sHypnotik: I'll be adding a poll to this topic, but I'd love to see you
guys/others who played elaborate on what was good and what was bad
about it? And Allu while that is vivid, what was it about the map
that bloodied up your shins, and how does your e-tank get shins?
Allu_o7o7o7, on Jan 10 2015 - 18:47, said: Many of us played this map for the first time tonight. We
would like to provide you feedback that this map is terrible. The
explanation would be that my e-tank shins feel bloody and
bruised like I've been forced to run laps in a well
stocked coffee table shop blindfolded while using my own
yelps of pain for echolocation.Hypnotik:
Subject: Clan Wars Map Exhibition: Stalingrad
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Hypnotik: We had a 5-way tie for the 39th spot, so there are 43 teams moving
on to round 2. Based on the feedback we've received on this
tournament series, the way that these situations are handled has
returned to the original way - a 5th group and a 10-team tournament
bracket. This will cut ~40 minutes off of how long it'll take to
play the matches as opposed to 11-team groups, it'll add 20k gold
to the prize pool, and it'll be slightly easier to make the
playoffs, however you still need fight for the higher seed to get
the easier road to victory. In case anyone's wondering, the
Map Exhibition on Northwest was the last time the play-in
bracket was used. So here are your groups for Round 2: Group
1 Group 2 Group 3 Esprit de Corps
ROXY Gaming
-THM-
Cães de Guerra
Death Krieg [DKAC]
Havok
Tundra
=VX9=
BR4WLERS If We Lose Blame Ryan [OTTER]
Vilin
AFFLICTION
Directive Zero
COMANDO DE TACTICAS BLINDADAS
3MF
THE RAVENS OF ODIN (TROO)
LBM
Karma RELIC Armoured
Brutal Beating
RDDT
ANVIL
Blue Blaze Irregulars (BBICT)
PRAVDA ACADEMY
GOBS
PLSGO
B13TH Group 4 Group 5 !! RGA !!
Legionarios Latinos [-LL-]
BUNEH
W-D
GBEAR
CABRA
Cudas
TF-A Ze Foxey Bads
JIMBO
BOLD (Fearless)
CHAII
Javelin Fire and Forget
AOD
War_Pigs
Bimbo How do payouts work? - 1st-4th place has no change - 5th-8th place is still 20k Gold, however teams in positions 7-10 based on round 1 and round 2 points will have to fight to take these spots - 9th-10th place will payout an new prize that wasn't in the original listing, 10k Gold. - Each team in the table above still gets the 2k Gold prize, as long as they have a total of 7 points between group stages. If there is a tie for one (or more) of the 2 spots from each group that moves on, the tiebreaker matches will immediately follow group play. Captains, we will contact you via in-game message if this is the case. As a reminder, here's how the bracket looks: #1 #9 (Play-in) #10 #4 #5 #3 Champion #6 #2 #7 (Play-in) #8 Number of matches played in Round 2 will be accounted for when seeding the playoffs. Good luck in your Round 2 battles!
ROXY Gaming
-THM-
Cães de Guerra
Death Krieg [DKAC]
Havok
Tundra
=VX9=
BR4WLERS If We Lose Blame Ryan [OTTER]
Vilin
AFFLICTION
Directive Zero
COMANDO DE TACTICAS BLINDADAS
3MF
THE RAVENS OF ODIN (TROO)
LBM
Karma RELIC Armoured
Brutal Beating
RDDT
ANVIL
Blue Blaze Irregulars (BBICT)
PRAVDA ACADEMY
GOBS
PLSGO
B13TH Group 4 Group 5 !! RGA !!
Legionarios Latinos [-LL-]
BUNEH
W-D
GBEAR
CABRA
Cudas
TF-A Ze Foxey Bads
JIMBO
BOLD (Fearless)
CHAII
Javelin Fire and Forget
AOD
War_Pigs
Bimbo How do payouts work? - 1st-4th place has no change - 5th-8th place is still 20k Gold, however teams in positions 7-10 based on round 1 and round 2 points will have to fight to take these spots - 9th-10th place will payout an new prize that wasn't in the original listing, 10k Gold. - Each team in the table above still gets the 2k Gold prize, as long as they have a total of 7 points between group stages. If there is a tie for one (or more) of the 2 spots from each group that moves on, the tiebreaker matches will immediately follow group play. Captains, we will contact you via in-game message if this is the case. As a reminder, here's how the bracket looks: #1 #9 (Play-in) #10 #4 #5 #3 Champion #6 #2 #7 (Play-in) #8 Number of matches played in Round 2 will be accounted for when seeding the playoffs. Good luck in your Round 2 battles!
Subject: Is GeForce GT 610 Graphics Card any good?
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Lert: It's a completely crap card. It's the cheapest model of
two-generation old card. The way Nvidia names their cares is, the
first digit is the generation, the second digit is its place in the
line up, the last digit is a 0. So the 610 is sixth generation,
first (ie, cheapest and slowest) card in the line up.
Subject: Clan Wars Map Exhibition: Stalingrad
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Hypnotik: There are 48 teams which met the entry requirements. Since 40 teams
move on to round 2, that means that 8 teams will be eliminated
tonight (and the other 40 will earn 2,000
if they get at least 7 total points). Tonight's matches will be
used in seeding the groups for tomorrow night, when only the top 2
in each division will make it through to the playoffs, so play your
best to get the easiest road to success tomorrow night.
Tonight's matches begin at 5:00 PM PST (8:00 PM EST) Group 1
Group 2 Group 3 !! RGA !!
ANVIL
AOD
B13TH
Cães de Guerra
GBEAR
Havok
PLSGO -THM-
=VX9=
BOLD (Fearless)
CABRA
Directive Zero
MGL-A
RELIC Armoured
THE RAVENS OF ODIN (TROO) Brutal Beating
CHAII
GOFD
LBM
PRAVDA ACADEMY
RDDT
ROXY Gaming
War_Pigs Group 4 Group 5 Group 6 3MF
BR4WLERS
Cudas
Death Krieg [DKAC]
If We Lose Blame Ryan [OTTER]
JIMBO
LOM
W-D AFFLICTION
Bimbo
Blue Blaze Irregulars (BBICT)
Esprit de Corps
GOBS
Ninjas Elite
Tundra
Vilin ARAVT
BUNEH
COMANDO DE TACTICAS BLINDADAS
Javelin Fire and Forget
Karma
Legionarios Latinos [-LL-]
TF-A
Ze Foxey Bads The following teams had players removed from their rosters because they are not in the clan represented: BUNEH
slick33
borange01
xXCraftyGamingXx
zapyoug
_Brendan
ARAVT
Inspirer
Jolooch
davaadavaa
UrtnasanMGL
mongol1st
Ze Foxey Bads
GethSniper
Bimbo
Qui_Gon_Razz
Legionarios Latinos [-LL-]
Sonk17
JollyJag
t808DunCan
JIMBO
HoundOfOdin
007Infinitemortal
=VX9=
CharlieTriGuy
AOD
Darkn3ssF4lls
LOM
Pakyerfujj
Javelin Fire and Forget
SteelShank
Karma
Gatorlhd6
GOFD
chicomam
tchelokko
Canadian Tactical (this team does not have 17 after DQ's, so the entire team is DQ'd)
Coysquibbly Good luck.
if they get at least 7 total points). Tonight's matches will be
used in seeding the groups for tomorrow night, when only the top 2
in each division will make it through to the playoffs, so play your
best to get the easiest road to success tomorrow night.
Tonight's matches begin at 5:00 PM PST (8:00 PM EST) Group 1
Group 2 Group 3 !! RGA !!ANVIL
AOD
B13TH
Cães de Guerra
GBEAR
Havok
PLSGO -THM-
=VX9=
BOLD (Fearless)
CABRA
Directive Zero
MGL-A
RELIC Armoured
THE RAVENS OF ODIN (TROO) Brutal Beating
CHAII
GOFD
LBM
PRAVDA ACADEMY
RDDT
ROXY Gaming
War_Pigs Group 4 Group 5 Group 6 3MF
BR4WLERS
Cudas
Death Krieg [DKAC]
If We Lose Blame Ryan [OTTER]
JIMBO
LOM
W-D AFFLICTION
Bimbo
Blue Blaze Irregulars (BBICT)
Esprit de Corps
GOBS
Ninjas Elite
Tundra
Vilin ARAVT
BUNEH
COMANDO DE TACTICAS BLINDADAS
Javelin Fire and Forget
Karma
Legionarios Latinos [-LL-]
TF-A
Ze Foxey Bads The following teams had players removed from their rosters because they are not in the clan represented: BUNEH
slick33
borange01
xXCraftyGamingXx
zapyoug
_Brendan
ARAVT
Inspirer
Jolooch
davaadavaa
UrtnasanMGL
mongol1st
Ze Foxey Bads
GethSniper
Bimbo
Qui_Gon_Razz
Legionarios Latinos [-LL-]
Sonk17
JollyJag
t808DunCan
JIMBO
HoundOfOdin
007Infinitemortal
=VX9=
CharlieTriGuy
AOD
Darkn3ssF4lls
LOM
Pakyerfujj
Javelin Fire and Forget
SteelShank
Karma
Gatorlhd6
GOFD
chicomam
tchelokko
Canadian Tactical (this team does not have 17 after DQ's, so the entire team is DQ'd)
Coysquibbly Good luck.
Subject: BRW recompensa...
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ElPozoleOlmeca: Ojo, que en NA no hacemos BRW. Eso es para los de EU y RU. Así si
vas a mandar un ticket lo tienes que hacer con los de soporte de
EU/RU. NOTA: Me equivoque. Si lo hacemos
en NA pero no se quien se encarga de eso.
Subject: BRW recompensa...
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PollotheDestroyer: Ojo, que en NA no hacemos BRW. Eso es para los de EU y RU. Así si
vas a mandar un ticket lo tienes que hacer con los de soporte de
EU/RU. NOTA: Me equivoque. Si lo hacemos
en NA pero no se quien se encarga de eso.
Subject: BRW recompensa...
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ApolloArtemis: Ojo, que en NA no hacemos BRW. Eso es para los de EU y RU. Así si
vas a mandar un ticket lo tienes que hacer con los de soporte de
EU/RU. NOTA: Me equivoque. Si lo hacemos
en NA pero no se quien se encarga de eso.
Subject: No he recibido mi oro
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PollotheDestroyer: Siempre te llego tu oro?
Subject: ¿Cuándo van a arreglar el problema de los trucos?
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ElPozoleOlmeca:
trucos?
Subject: ¿Cuándo van a arreglar el problema de los trucos?
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PollotheDestroyer:
trucos?
Subject: ¿Cuándo van a arreglar el problema de los trucos?
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ApolloArtemis:
trucos?
Subject: NATO Survey, 1943 Pt 2
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The_Chieftain: Then we move to Colonel Lambert, of 1st Armored Division’s
CCA: 1. The 75 mm Gun in the M4 tank should have
its muzzle velocity souped up and the reticules
in the direct fire sight graduatedto include
5000 yards. Some vertical reference line must be included
in this sight reticule. The engraving should be as fine
as possible so as not to obscure the target. 2. The M4
tank telescope sight should have a 3ft. maximum
height adjustment and be capable of being withdrawn when not
in use. The British periscope installed in top of
M3 light tanks is
excellent. Bakelite replaceable sight heads fog on the
inside. 3. All tank guns, 75mm and up, should
be equipped for indirect laying. Some means of boresighting
the 37 mm gun in the light tank after changing sights
should be provided. The elbow telescope sight on the
M7 seems to be satisfactory. 4. We like the M4A2 tanks
better than the M4s. The Diesel engines of the
former handle better and are less of a fire hazard. 5.
The new AT-HE ammunition disintegrates Mk. IV
tanks at close ranges. We have no dope on long
ranges.
6. Each tank company should have 4 57 mm or
3” towed guns for antitank
work. Armored limbers or caissons like those
towedby the M7sshould be issued to carry their
ammunition. Each gun should have a crew of 6 men and
a chief of section.Ammunition
should be supplied in the following
percentages: HE 50%; AP 40%; WP 10%. 7. The tank
battalion needs 105 mm Howitzers instead of 75
mm Howitzers on half-tracks. One platoon of 3
per battalion isenough. 8. The 105mm Howitzer on a light tank
chassis should be better than the M7. Our 81mm mortar
platoon needs more range. It is satisfactory when stationary
but is no good when moving. 9. We need an armored car of the
multi- wheeled type, protected from air attack and
armored to turn .30cal. armor piercing ammunition, and capable
of operating at 20 M.P.H. over rough country. It should
be able to carry at least 3men and the driver.
10. Some sort of command vehicle is needed. It should
look like other vehicles with enough room for 5 men. It should be
equipped with map tables and lighting equipment. 11. We
have received no 522 radio sets nor Krypton lights. 12.
We are wearing out our primary engines in charging
radio storage batteries. We need a small gasoline driven
generator outfit. 13. More binoculars are badly needed.
14. The M2 compass is satisfactory but should have
a luminous needle and some luminous reference
points on the dial. 15. A
small cooking outfit should be issued each tank.
16. The cub airplanes were used for route
reconnaissance, message
service, and surveillance, and are very
valuable. They were
not used for adjustment of fire due to
hostile air activity and the availability of excellent ground
observation posts. 17. A combat command needs about 50 miles
of·W-110 wire, a 12 drop switchboard, and about 10
telephones. No wire equipment should be issued to lower
units. 18. Command tanks should be provided with mountings for
either a SCR-193 or SCR- 245 radio set in addition
to the mounting for the SCR- 528. 19. The switches
used to control the firing mechanism
and power traverse in tanks are
no good. If thrown quickly, the contacts
fuze. 20. The metal used in the oil coolers of the final drive
and engine corrodes in spots due to salt spray. The oil
pressure thenblows through these corroded spots. 21. The
clutches in the M4 tanks almost lock due to the entrance of
sand and grit. The M3 tank clutches are
much superior inthis respect. These clutches should be sealed.
22. A 24 hour march means 72 hours of maintenance
work. Provide tank trailers like
the British to reduce engine hours and
track mileage. Finally, before I leave this particular survey, a
general Q&A from Ground Requirements Section, Headquarters,
AGF. As with all the others, the date on this is 15th June
1943 1. The following replies to specific
questions are submitted. These replies embody the consensus of
officers interviewed in the North African Theater. 2.
What is the thought regarding the use of self propelled
artillery for tank destroyers? The British believe self propelled
artillery to be suitable for support of armored units only.
Divisional antitank weapons should be towed guns. The divisional
antitank defense should be supplemented by larger caliber, harder
hitting, highly maneuverable weapons assigned to tank destroyer
units. For speed of emplacement and displacement these should be
self-propelled. For ease of digging and concealment the silhouette
should be as low as possible. 3. The
British state that they can put a towed gun into action as fast as
a self-propelled gun but that the self-propelled weapon can
displace more rapidly. Is that statement correct? The statement is
in general correct. The value of the self propelled gun lies in the
fact that it can move rapidly and easily from a defiladed position
in readiness to an adjacent firing position, fire and then withdraw
to defilade or displace to a new position more quickly than can a
towed gun. 4. What anti-tank or tank
destroyer weapons should the armored divisions have in addition to
their normal supporting artillery? The armored divisions prefer
towed 57mm or 3” guns for this purpose. Two to four of these guns
per tank company are desired. One armored limber or caisson per gun
should be issued with the guns. Ammunition as follows: HE 50%, AP
40%, and WP 10%.
General Gaffey recommends one battalion of
self-propelled 155mm howitzers in each armored division for general
support missions. 5. Is there need
for an armored car and if so how much protection is desired?
A general requirement for such a vehicle does exist.
It is to be utilized by reconnaissance units, observing parties and
commanders’ parties. It should be armed with a .50 calibre machine
gun, low in silhouette and capable of 20mph speed cross country. It
should be armored and angled to turn .30 calibre armor piercing
ammunition. 6. Is the use of 8 inch
guns and 240mm howitzers contemplated in North African Theater? A
study is now being made by the Fifth Army and II Corps regarding
this requirement. 8-inch howitzers were repeatedly requested by II
Corps. 7. Which type of weapon is
desired by battalion commanders for anti-tank use; high or low
muzzle velocity; 75mm or 3 inch caliber? High velocity weapons are
universally desired. Neither the 75mm nor 3 inch guns are desired
in the battalion due to size and weight of both piece and
ammunition. A low silhouette, easily concealed, dug in and
man-handled weapon must be provided to the battalion. The present
37mm gun with increased muzzle velocity and free traverse, or the
57mm tube on the 37mm gun carriage with muzzle brake and free
traverse is desired. In the regiment, either the 57mm AT gun
or the 76mm or 3 inch gun on a 75mm field howitzer carriage is
desired. 8. How is the 25 pounder AT gun
performing? This weapon is the standard 25 pounder field gun
equipped with muzzle brake and souped up ammunition giving a muzzle
velocity of 2000f/s. It will theoretically pierce 73mm of armor at
1000 yards at 20 degrees to normal impact angle. There are none in
service and probably none will be produced – Lt Colonel Dobinson RA
Ln O British Eighth Army at Headquarters II Corps. The 17 pounder
is the pet anti-tank weapon of the British and is a superior gun.
9. Have we enough artillery and the
proper calibers and types in the theater? There is not enough
artillery in the theater. The artillery available is outranged by
the hostile artillery with the sole exception of the 15mm M1 gun.
The complete absence of the GHQ echelon created a demand by each
subordinate unit for the weapons normally assigned by the next
higher echelon. General John A. Crane recommended that the Corps
Artillery Brigade consist of two 155mm M1 gun regiments and one 8
inch howitzer regiment. Three division artillery commanders
recommend divisional artillery consisting of three battalions of
105mm howitzers each containing 4 six gun batteries and two 155mm
M1 Howitzer battalions one battery of 4.5 inch guns to be
included in one of these latter battalions.
Additional light, medium and heavy
artillery would have been desirable. It is believed that GHQ
artillery units of those calibers should have been present to
reinforce organic divisional and corps units. Unless additional
light and medium artillery is to be available for reinforcing
divisional artillery, additional artillery of these types must be
included in the organic divisional artillery. The long range
character of the Tunisian campaign resulted in demands for
increased range in our artillery. The 155m M1 Howitzer and the 4.5
inch M1 gun would have been most valuable. Many missions fired by
the 15mm M1 gun were within the capabilities of the 4.5 inch gun
but could not be reached by any other artillery weapon in the
theater. In general the towed weapons available were well
suited to the terrain and for the mission fired. It is doubtful
whether self propelled mounts of the medium or heavy calibers would
have been of sufficient value to warrant the additional shipping
space required. This is due to their restricted range which is
inherent in self propelled weapons. 10.
Do we need more 15mm M1918 howitzers in the theater?
Yes. See preceeding paragraph. 11.
What mounts are being used for firing the .50 caliber
machine gun against air and ground targets? M24 truck pedestal
mounts and M32 truck cab mounts are issued for this purpose. An
insufficient number of both types were available. The field
artillery units in particular require a ground mount for this
weapon inn order that the guns carried on prime movers may be
dismounted and used to protect the firing battery when in position.
Field artillery batteries in position are favorite targets
for hostile air attack and hence must be provided with an adequate
means of defense against this type of action. General
characteristics of a mount suitable for this purpose have been
prescribed by the Field Artillery Board. 12.
Is the Field Artillery receiving the benefit of the Air Corps
reconnaissance and photography? Only indirectly. Air reconnaissance
information is furnished to the higher echelons as are some
photographs. The type of photographs are suitable for G-2 purposes
only and are not usually furnished the Field Artillery. No
photographs for conduct of fire, so called battle strips, pin
points or wide angles were furnished. The entire subject of air
reconnaissance and photography in connection with the operations of
ground forces must be carefully studied with view to obtaining the
full benefit of this type of information service for ground forces.
The formation of an air unit under control of the corps commander
similar to the British Reconnaissance Wing is recommended.
The lack of air photographs suitable for artillery firing has
resulted in the demand for a hand held camera and mobile darkroom
in the divisional artillery air observation section.
13. Are diesel engines a hindrance
or an asset in this theater? How many are there? What is their life
and what are their fuel and maintenance problems?
Diesel engines are installed in the remaining TD-18
tractors of the 36th FA and in the seventy two M10s received.
These engines are considered satisfactory and are preferred to
gasoline engines by the tank destroyer units. The M4A2 tanks with
diesel engines arriving in the theater are preferred to M4 tanks
with gasoline engines due to the reduced fire hazard, fuel economy,
increased speed given the vehicle and easier handling. (General H.
J. Gaffey and Colonel F.C. Haiunes, 1st Armd Div). No
recurring mechanical difficulties were reported, the average engine
life being approximately 250 hours without overhaul. Some means of
reducing smoking of diesels should be devised. No difficulty with
fuel supply has been encountered as already various oils,
lubricants and grades of gasoline must be applied. 14.
Are command posts tents required in the theater? Yes.
Two divisions have received a partial issue of these tents. In open
country they are dug in and well dispersed hence offer
unrenumnerative targets for air attack. The tent as issued is
satisfactory and well liked. And thus brings to an end the
documents I've come across in the Archives related to this
report. A couple of observations. Mark2 over on the NA
forum has gone over the previous week's article with an
assessment as to which of the suggestions put forward were
actually implemented. An overall view of the reports from NATO
should be a valid reminder that though everyone focuses on the
major end items like tanks, one can never forget the details like
transports, radios and lights. Obviously, it took until the last
decade or so to field mine detectors which could identify a mine
quickly: Ground penetrating radar. However, one cannot fault a line
commander for identifying a need and sending it up: He has no way
of knowing if it is not technically feasible. The levels of
emphasis on rear area security for both anti-tank and anti-aircraft
capabilities is interesting. Not just the MGMC half-tracks, but the
need for .50 cals and mounts to shoot them from. Obviously the
emphasis on anti-air became reduced as the Luftwaffe was removed
from play, but I did find it interesting that the divisional
artillery thought it worthwhile to use a full battalion of TDs , as
opposed to letting the manpower loose on other targets. The
shortage of long-range artillery was also interesting, I would be
curiouis to know if any of it was counter-battery done by sound
spotting, and the effectiveness of it. It is a shame that the
rationale behind the tanks towing AT guns was not further
explained. Especially given that the majority of the ammunition
loads was suggested to be HE: What would they want to do that a
regular tank gun could not? Some of Patton's comments are valid
enough, (And some predictable enough given what he thought
important), but I'm not sure the officers on the front lines were
incredibly enamoured of the concept that "Anyone with a mark on the
helmet is an officer." I can only assume that German and Italian
snipers would have loved that idea. On the other hand, it would
seem to me that the solution for Irwin's "Carbines don't work when
dirty" is "clean them." Overall, it appears that the NATOUSA was
happy enough with the front-line equipment and organisation, but it
was the supporting assets which needed more work. Also of note, to
that point, the TD concept wasn't entirely villified. There seemed
to be a general consensus that some tweaking was needed, but not to
the extent of getting rid of them, General Patton's opinion
notwithstanding.
6. Each tank company should have 4 57 mm or
3” towed guns for antitank
work. Armored limbers or caissons like those
towedby the M7sshould be issued to carry their
ammunition. Each gun should have a crew of 6 men and
a chief of section.Ammunition
should be supplied in the following
percentages: HE 50%; AP 40%; WP 10%. 7. The tank
battalion needs 105 mm Howitzers instead of 75
mm Howitzers on half-tracks. One platoon of 3
per battalion isenough. 8. The 105mm Howitzer on a light tank
chassis should be better than the M7. Our 81mm mortar
platoon needs more range. It is satisfactory when stationary
but is no good when moving. 9. We need an armored car of the
multi- wheeled type, protected from air attack and
armored to turn .30cal. armor piercing ammunition, and capable
of operating at 20 M.P.H. over rough country. It should
be able to carry at least 3men and the driver.
10. Some sort of command vehicle is needed. It should
look like other vehicles with enough room for 5 men. It should be
equipped with map tables and lighting equipment. 11. We
have received no 522 radio sets nor Krypton lights. 12.
We are wearing out our primary engines in charging
radio storage batteries. We need a small gasoline driven
generator outfit. 13. More binoculars are badly needed.
14. The M2 compass is satisfactory but should have
a luminous needle and some luminous reference
points on the dial. 15. A
small cooking outfit should be issued each tank.
16. The cub airplanes were used for route
reconnaissance, message
service, and surveillance, and are very
valuable. They were
not used for adjustment of fire due to
hostile air activity and the availability of excellent ground
observation posts. 17. A combat command needs about 50 miles
of·W-110 wire, a 12 drop switchboard, and about 10
telephones. No wire equipment should be issued to lower
units. 18. Command tanks should be provided with mountings for
either a SCR-193 or SCR- 245 radio set in addition
to the mounting for the SCR- 528. 19. The switches
used to control the firing mechanism
and power traverse in tanks are
no good. If thrown quickly, the contacts
fuze. 20. The metal used in the oil coolers of the final drive
and engine corrodes in spots due to salt spray. The oil
pressure thenblows through these corroded spots. 21. The
clutches in the M4 tanks almost lock due to the entrance of
sand and grit. The M3 tank clutches are
much superior inthis respect. These clutches should be sealed.
22. A 24 hour march means 72 hours of maintenance
work. Provide tank trailers like
the British to reduce engine hours and
track mileage. Finally, before I leave this particular survey, a
general Q&A from Ground Requirements Section, Headquarters,
AGF. As with all the others, the date on this is 15th June
1943 1. The following replies to specific
questions are submitted. These replies embody the consensus of
officers interviewed in the North African Theater. 2.
What is the thought regarding the use of self propelled
artillery for tank destroyers? The British believe self propelled
artillery to be suitable for support of armored units only.
Divisional antitank weapons should be towed guns. The divisional
antitank defense should be supplemented by larger caliber, harder
hitting, highly maneuverable weapons assigned to tank destroyer
units. For speed of emplacement and displacement these should be
self-propelled. For ease of digging and concealment the silhouette
should be as low as possible. 3. The
British state that they can put a towed gun into action as fast as
a self-propelled gun but that the self-propelled weapon can
displace more rapidly. Is that statement correct? The statement is
in general correct. The value of the self propelled gun lies in the
fact that it can move rapidly and easily from a defiladed position
in readiness to an adjacent firing position, fire and then withdraw
to defilade or displace to a new position more quickly than can a
towed gun. 4. What anti-tank or tank
destroyer weapons should the armored divisions have in addition to
their normal supporting artillery? The armored divisions prefer
towed 57mm or 3” guns for this purpose. Two to four of these guns
per tank company are desired. One armored limber or caisson per gun
should be issued with the guns. Ammunition as follows: HE 50%, AP
40%, and WP 10%.
General Gaffey recommends one battalion of
self-propelled 155mm howitzers in each armored division for general
support missions. 5. Is there need
for an armored car and if so how much protection is desired?
A general requirement for such a vehicle does exist.
It is to be utilized by reconnaissance units, observing parties and
commanders’ parties. It should be armed with a .50 calibre machine
gun, low in silhouette and capable of 20mph speed cross country. It
should be armored and angled to turn .30 calibre armor piercing
ammunition. 6. Is the use of 8 inch
guns and 240mm howitzers contemplated in North African Theater? A
study is now being made by the Fifth Army and II Corps regarding
this requirement. 8-inch howitzers were repeatedly requested by II
Corps. 7. Which type of weapon is
desired by battalion commanders for anti-tank use; high or low
muzzle velocity; 75mm or 3 inch caliber? High velocity weapons are
universally desired. Neither the 75mm nor 3 inch guns are desired
in the battalion due to size and weight of both piece and
ammunition. A low silhouette, easily concealed, dug in and
man-handled weapon must be provided to the battalion. The present
37mm gun with increased muzzle velocity and free traverse, or the
57mm tube on the 37mm gun carriage with muzzle brake and free
traverse is desired. In the regiment, either the 57mm AT gun
or the 76mm or 3 inch gun on a 75mm field howitzer carriage is
desired. 8. How is the 25 pounder AT gun
performing? This weapon is the standard 25 pounder field gun
equipped with muzzle brake and souped up ammunition giving a muzzle
velocity of 2000f/s. It will theoretically pierce 73mm of armor at
1000 yards at 20 degrees to normal impact angle. There are none in
service and probably none will be produced – Lt Colonel Dobinson RA
Ln O British Eighth Army at Headquarters II Corps. The 17 pounder
is the pet anti-tank weapon of the British and is a superior gun.
9. Have we enough artillery and the
proper calibers and types in the theater? There is not enough
artillery in the theater. The artillery available is outranged by
the hostile artillery with the sole exception of the 15mm M1 gun.
The complete absence of the GHQ echelon created a demand by each
subordinate unit for the weapons normally assigned by the next
higher echelon. General John A. Crane recommended that the Corps
Artillery Brigade consist of two 155mm M1 gun regiments and one 8
inch howitzer regiment. Three division artillery commanders
recommend divisional artillery consisting of three battalions of
105mm howitzers each containing 4 six gun batteries and two 155mm
M1 Howitzer battalions one battery of 4.5 inch guns to be
included in one of these latter battalions.
Additional light, medium and heavy
artillery would have been desirable. It is believed that GHQ
artillery units of those calibers should have been present to
reinforce organic divisional and corps units. Unless additional
light and medium artillery is to be available for reinforcing
divisional artillery, additional artillery of these types must be
included in the organic divisional artillery. The long range
character of the Tunisian campaign resulted in demands for
increased range in our artillery. The 155m M1 Howitzer and the 4.5
inch M1 gun would have been most valuable. Many missions fired by
the 15mm M1 gun were within the capabilities of the 4.5 inch gun
but could not be reached by any other artillery weapon in the
theater. In general the towed weapons available were well
suited to the terrain and for the mission fired. It is doubtful
whether self propelled mounts of the medium or heavy calibers would
have been of sufficient value to warrant the additional shipping
space required. This is due to their restricted range which is
inherent in self propelled weapons. 10.
Do we need more 15mm M1918 howitzers in the theater?
Yes. See preceeding paragraph. 11.
What mounts are being used for firing the .50 caliber
machine gun against air and ground targets? M24 truck pedestal
mounts and M32 truck cab mounts are issued for this purpose. An
insufficient number of both types were available. The field
artillery units in particular require a ground mount for this
weapon inn order that the guns carried on prime movers may be
dismounted and used to protect the firing battery when in position.
Field artillery batteries in position are favorite targets
for hostile air attack and hence must be provided with an adequate
means of defense against this type of action. General
characteristics of a mount suitable for this purpose have been
prescribed by the Field Artillery Board. 12.
Is the Field Artillery receiving the benefit of the Air Corps
reconnaissance and photography? Only indirectly. Air reconnaissance
information is furnished to the higher echelons as are some
photographs. The type of photographs are suitable for G-2 purposes
only and are not usually furnished the Field Artillery. No
photographs for conduct of fire, so called battle strips, pin
points or wide angles were furnished. The entire subject of air
reconnaissance and photography in connection with the operations of
ground forces must be carefully studied with view to obtaining the
full benefit of this type of information service for ground forces.
The formation of an air unit under control of the corps commander
similar to the British Reconnaissance Wing is recommended.
The lack of air photographs suitable for artillery firing has
resulted in the demand for a hand held camera and mobile darkroom
in the divisional artillery air observation section.
13. Are diesel engines a hindrance
or an asset in this theater? How many are there? What is their life
and what are their fuel and maintenance problems?
Diesel engines are installed in the remaining TD-18
tractors of the 36th FA and in the seventy two M10s received.
These engines are considered satisfactory and are preferred to
gasoline engines by the tank destroyer units. The M4A2 tanks with
diesel engines arriving in the theater are preferred to M4 tanks
with gasoline engines due to the reduced fire hazard, fuel economy,
increased speed given the vehicle and easier handling. (General H.
J. Gaffey and Colonel F.C. Haiunes, 1st Armd Div). No
recurring mechanical difficulties were reported, the average engine
life being approximately 250 hours without overhaul. Some means of
reducing smoking of diesels should be devised. No difficulty with
fuel supply has been encountered as already various oils,
lubricants and grades of gasoline must be applied. 14.
Are command posts tents required in the theater? Yes.
Two divisions have received a partial issue of these tents. In open
country they are dug in and well dispersed hence offer
unrenumnerative targets for air attack. The tent as issued is
satisfactory and well liked. And thus brings to an end the
documents I've come across in the Archives related to this
report. A couple of observations. Mark2 over on the NA
forum has gone over the previous week's article with an
assessment as to which of the suggestions put forward were
actually implemented. An overall view of the reports from NATO
should be a valid reminder that though everyone focuses on the
major end items like tanks, one can never forget the details like
transports, radios and lights. Obviously, it took until the last
decade or so to field mine detectors which could identify a mine
quickly: Ground penetrating radar. However, one cannot fault a line
commander for identifying a need and sending it up: He has no way
of knowing if it is not technically feasible. The levels of
emphasis on rear area security for both anti-tank and anti-aircraft
capabilities is interesting. Not just the MGMC half-tracks, but the
need for .50 cals and mounts to shoot them from. Obviously the
emphasis on anti-air became reduced as the Luftwaffe was removed
from play, but I did find it interesting that the divisional
artillery thought it worthwhile to use a full battalion of TDs , as
opposed to letting the manpower loose on other targets. The
shortage of long-range artillery was also interesting, I would be
curiouis to know if any of it was counter-battery done by sound
spotting, and the effectiveness of it. It is a shame that the
rationale behind the tanks towing AT guns was not further
explained. Especially given that the majority of the ammunition
loads was suggested to be HE: What would they want to do that a
regular tank gun could not? Some of Patton's comments are valid
enough, (And some predictable enough given what he thought
important), but I'm not sure the officers on the front lines were
incredibly enamoured of the concept that "Anyone with a mark on the
helmet is an officer." I can only assume that German and Italian
snipers would have loved that idea. On the other hand, it would
seem to me that the solution for Irwin's "Carbines don't work when
dirty" is "clean them." Overall, it appears that the NATOUSA was
happy enough with the front-line equipment and organisation, but it
was the supporting assets which needed more work. Also of note, to
that point, the TD concept wasn't entirely villified. There seemed
to be a general consensus that some tweaking was needed, but not to
the extent of getting rid of them, General Patton's opinion
notwithstanding.
Subject: Should the 113 get buffed? (simple)
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_Xi, on Jan 09 2015 - 21:09, said: If YOU get a good game in it? You don't speak for
the entire player base sir, you're just 1 person like the rest of
us. Play style is one thing but the word meta is another. Most of
the tanks tier 8 and above fit into the meta quite nicely. I said
most of them.
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_Xi, on Jan 09 2015 - 21:09, said: If YOU get a good game in it? You don't speak for
the entire player base sir, you're just 1 person like the rest of
us. Play style is one thing but the word meta is another. Most of
the tanks tier 8 and above fit into the meta quite nicely. I said
most of them. The_Chieftain: I never said I did speak for the playerbase. I just observed
that at times, probably by sheer luck, I found the tank in
situations in which it excelled. I thus conclude that as a rule, I
do not use the tank to the best of its abilities. Other people
evidently have figured out how to do it. I see no reason why my, or
your, or anyone else's inability to play the vehicle to its
strengths should be a reason to consider the tank inferior.
Subject: NATO Survey, 1943 Pt 2
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The_Chieftain:
In last week's
article we saw the overview reports on tank destroyers and
armor, together with a summary cover sheet. This week we're going
to drill down a little bit, to see the priorities of inidividual
unit commanders, and also another Q&A. We start off with the
opinion of the senior field commander, General George S Patton:
1. Basic discipline is lacking. Failure to salute is
lack of alertness. Close order drill is required to instill
confidence in an officer in himself and in the enlisted men in the
officers. Precision, unquestioned obedience and
responsibility must be stressed. 2. Training in night fighting is
necessary. A minimum of two nights
per week should be utilized in marching, teaching the
approach march, the attack, and the organization and occupation of
a position. 3. Physical fitness is an essential. Officers should be
able to run a mile in ten minutes with all equipment.
They must be enthusiastic fighters. They should
carry absolute minimum equipment - a pistol, no carbine
or Tommy Gun. 4. Men carry too much clothing. We
want killers, not laundry men. Let them carry clothes on their
back without barracks bags, trunk
lockers, etc. Extra clothing should be
carried in Quartermaster trucks for replacement
when clothing is soiled. Clothing turned in can be washed,
repaired, and reissued. Give them candy but not in
the ration. 5. They need real sugar and dextrose for energy. A
little rum would not hurt them. 6. Our soldiers are the
filthiest, sloppiest, in the country due to the texture and
shade of the field jacket material. Men looking like
tramps have no pride
in themselves nor can they fight. 7. Overseas
service should be considered a promotion.
8. Roughnecks and football players, not
stenographers and clerks, should be sent to fight. 9.
Officers must wear the insignia of their ranks on their
helmets. Enlisted men should wear
nothing. Hence, any mark on a helmet indicates
an officer.
10. Officers in
the grade of lieutenant should be sent
as replacement to overseas units. 11. Self-propelled
tank destroyer weapons are not
needed in the Armored Division. Two towed 3” or
57mm anti-tank guns per tank company should suffice. 12. Put tops
on the turrets of the M10s and more front
armor and issue them as tanks. 13. Never place
a cannon where it can see or be seen beyond its lethal
range. 14. Sights of at least 4 power with night lighted reticules
are necessary. 15. The combination of a 37 mm with twin .50 cal.
machine guns is the best
anti-aircraft weapon yet issued. The
substitution of a 40mm cannon for the 37mm may be an improvement.
16. We need a powerful vehicular mine detector and a more
powerful land mine of plastic material containing no metal
whatsoever. 17. All troops should be given intensive training
in mine laying, detection and removal. 18. A boot about
12 inches in height with raw hide laces
should replace the field shoe and canvas legging.
19. Buttons should replace zippers. 20. Sweat
bands in helmet liners should be removable
for washing. 21. The bottoms of trousers should be
reduced to about 17 inches.
22. The Infantry Division needs a
reconnaissance battalion. 23. There is no necessity
for changing the Armored Division at this time. 24. The
1st Division was in combat 22 days - the 9th
Division, 12 days. More personnel
is needed by all units for replacement
and relief during these long periods of continuous fighting. For a
different point of view, the opinions of MG S. LeRoy Irwin,
commanding 9th Division Artillery.
1. We need more range in the
division artillery. 4.5” guns will avoid
wasting the 155 Gun on minor missions that now only they
can reach. 2. We must have some anti-tank protection in divisional
artillery. Without such
protection, tactical use of the weapons is
interfered with. This is
particularly true of the medium battalion. One
attached battalion of 75mm guns on half-tracks will
probably suffice 3. The necessity of observation
towers depends upon the theater. The cub
airplane should do the job. (4-12b are on a missing
page) 12 c. About 12 binoculars M3 per battery.
d. 1 or 2 high power
observation instruments for each battalion.
e. Some additional shielding on the 105
Howitzer - keep the high fire feature on that
weapon. f. An additional officer and
three men for battery observation posts since two must be
operated 24 hours a day 13. No
observation towers are needed in this theater.
14. Keep the 608 radio set in the firing battery and
at least 3 in the battalion. 15. Division Artillery needs
two and the battalions one RL-26. 16. The carbine does not
work when dirty. One battery was overrun when the carbines failed
to function. For the position of 1st Infantry Division,
we move to MG T. Dela M Allen, Commanding General. 1. Division
Artillery needs 6 more officers, 2 in Battalion Headquarters and
1 in each Headquarters and Service Battery. 2. We
should have a larger division
reconnaissance unit.
Several reconnaissance companies of
armored jeeps with scout car command vehicles in each platoon,
and a light tank company should be satisfactory. 3. A
platoon of self-propelled 75 mm Guns, equipped for
indirect fire and having a low silhouette, should be
part of each battalion heavy weaponscompany. 4. We
don’t need a separate anti-tank unit. 5. The
Field Artillery requires more anti-aircraft protection unless
normal anti- aircraft units are to be continually
available for attachment. 6. The division needs a
Quartermaster Battalion, at least one more truck company.
7. Division engineers must consider themselves
combat troops and notprincipally construction troops. 8. Never
attach infantry to armored units, make the attachment in
the opposite direction. 9. Sound
and flash units should be available to
divisions when operating away from corps.
Another missing page eliminates the remainder of his
opinions, while the tail end of another survey is simply “Wire is
still the most useful means of communication. We need plenty of
it”.
In last week's
article we saw the overview reports on tank destroyers and
armor, together with a summary cover sheet. This week we're going
to drill down a little bit, to see the priorities of inidividual
unit commanders, and also another Q&A. We start off with the
opinion of the senior field commander, General George S Patton:
1. Basic discipline is lacking. Failure to salute is
lack of alertness. Close order drill is required to instill
confidence in an officer in himself and in the enlisted men in the
officers. Precision, unquestioned obedience and
responsibility must be stressed. 2. Training in night fighting is
necessary. A minimum of two nights
per week should be utilized in marching, teaching the
approach march, the attack, and the organization and occupation of
a position. 3. Physical fitness is an essential. Officers should be
able to run a mile in ten minutes with all equipment.
They must be enthusiastic fighters. They should
carry absolute minimum equipment - a pistol, no carbine
or Tommy Gun. 4. Men carry too much clothing. We
want killers, not laundry men. Let them carry clothes on their
back without barracks bags, trunk
lockers, etc. Extra clothing should be
carried in Quartermaster trucks for replacement
when clothing is soiled. Clothing turned in can be washed,
repaired, and reissued. Give them candy but not in
the ration. 5. They need real sugar and dextrose for energy. A
little rum would not hurt them. 6. Our soldiers are the
filthiest, sloppiest, in the country due to the texture and
shade of the field jacket material. Men looking like
tramps have no pride
in themselves nor can they fight. 7. Overseas
service should be considered a promotion.
8. Roughnecks and football players, not
stenographers and clerks, should be sent to fight. 9.
Officers must wear the insignia of their ranks on their
helmets. Enlisted men should wear
nothing. Hence, any mark on a helmet indicates
an officer.
10. Officers in
the grade of lieutenant should be sent
as replacement to overseas units. 11. Self-propelled
tank destroyer weapons are not
needed in the Armored Division. Two towed 3” or
57mm anti-tank guns per tank company should suffice. 12. Put tops
on the turrets of the M10s and more front
armor and issue them as tanks. 13. Never place
a cannon where it can see or be seen beyond its lethal
range. 14. Sights of at least 4 power with night lighted reticules
are necessary. 15. The combination of a 37 mm with twin .50 cal.
machine guns is the best
anti-aircraft weapon yet issued. The
substitution of a 40mm cannon for the 37mm may be an improvement.
16. We need a powerful vehicular mine detector and a more
powerful land mine of plastic material containing no metal
whatsoever. 17. All troops should be given intensive training
in mine laying, detection and removal. 18. A boot about
12 inches in height with raw hide laces
should replace the field shoe and canvas legging.
19. Buttons should replace zippers. 20. Sweat
bands in helmet liners should be removable
for washing. 21. The bottoms of trousers should be
reduced to about 17 inches.
22. The Infantry Division needs a
reconnaissance battalion. 23. There is no necessity
for changing the Armored Division at this time. 24. The
1st Division was in combat 22 days - the 9th
Division, 12 days. More personnel
is needed by all units for replacement
and relief during these long periods of continuous fighting. For a
different point of view, the opinions of MG S. LeRoy Irwin,
commanding 9th Division Artillery.
1. We need more range in the
division artillery. 4.5” guns will avoid
wasting the 155 Gun on minor missions that now only they
can reach. 2. We must have some anti-tank protection in divisional
artillery. Without such
protection, tactical use of the weapons is
interfered with. This is
particularly true of the medium battalion. One
attached battalion of 75mm guns on half-tracks will
probably suffice 3. The necessity of observation
towers depends upon the theater. The cub
airplane should do the job. (4-12b are on a missing
page) 12 c. About 12 binoculars M3 per battery.
d. 1 or 2 high power
observation instruments for each battalion.
e. Some additional shielding on the 105
Howitzer - keep the high fire feature on that
weapon. f. An additional officer and
three men for battery observation posts since two must be
operated 24 hours a day 13. No
observation towers are needed in this theater.
14. Keep the 608 radio set in the firing battery and
at least 3 in the battalion. 15. Division Artillery needs
two and the battalions one RL-26. 16. The carbine does not
work when dirty. One battery was overrun when the carbines failed
to function. For the position of 1st Infantry Division,
we move to MG T. Dela M Allen, Commanding General. 1. Division
Artillery needs 6 more officers, 2 in Battalion Headquarters and
1 in each Headquarters and Service Battery. 2. We
should have a larger division
reconnaissance unit.
Several reconnaissance companies of
armored jeeps with scout car command vehicles in each platoon,
and a light tank company should be satisfactory. 3. A
platoon of self-propelled 75 mm Guns, equipped for
indirect fire and having a low silhouette, should be
part of each battalion heavy weaponscompany. 4. We
don’t need a separate anti-tank unit. 5. The
Field Artillery requires more anti-aircraft protection unless
normal anti- aircraft units are to be continually
available for attachment. 6. The division needs a
Quartermaster Battalion, at least one more truck company.
7. Division engineers must consider themselves
combat troops and notprincipally construction troops. 8. Never
attach infantry to armored units, make the attachment in
the opposite direction. 9. Sound
and flash units should be available to
divisions when operating away from corps.
Another missing page eliminates the remainder of his
opinions, while the tail end of another survey is simply “Wire is
still the most useful means of communication. We need plenty of
it”.
Subject: WGLNA Open Cup, Winter 2015
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zxanth1, on Jan 09 2015 - 13:17, said: My modify team link will not work, it will take me to the form but
I cannot submit any changes in my team that I want to make. I
get "Server Error" I sent an email to
tournaments@wargamingamerica.com but the team members have still
not been changed, is there anywhere else I need to request this
change? Thanks in advance!
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zxanth1, on Jan 09 2015 - 13:17, said: My modify team link will not work, it will take me to the form but
I cannot submit any changes in my team that I want to make. I
get "Server Error" I sent an email to
tournaments@wargamingamerica.com but the team members have still
not been changed, is there anywhere else I need to request this
change? Thanks in advance!dance210: Unfortunately, the Cup doesn't work the same way as the
Leagues. As they are only 2 weeks, there are no roster changes once
the team has been accepted and registration has closed.
Subject: Discussion: WGLNA Bronze League, Winter 2015
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porkchop39, on Jan 09 2015 - 10:40, said: Hey Dance, will the teams receive the additional rewards as they
hit the milestones? Or in a lump sum sort of thing at end of
season?
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porkchop39, on Jan 09 2015 - 10:40, said: Hey Dance, will the teams receive the additional rewards as they
hit the milestones? Or in a lump sum sort of thing at end of
season? dance210: Teams will hit them as they reach the milestones. Premium
time will be credited on the Friday after the milestone is reached.
Premium tanks could be awarded anytime after it is reached.
Subject: Wargaming helping build the National Armor and Cavalry Museum
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The_Chieftain: Well, the two major problems are (1) the sheer amount of money that
they need for the building, and (2) the legal issues of what the
museum, as a government organisation, is allowed to do with a
private commercial enterprise for anything else we may happen to
want to consider doing. They are far more limited by law than, say,
their British counterpart in Bovington with whom we have a good
relationship. We're also dealing with two separate organisations:
The National Armor and Cavalry Museum, who own the tanks but can't
work with private entities very well, and the National Armor and
Cavalry Foundation who are trying to raise the money for the
museum, but don't own any of the tanks. And, for obvious enough
reasons, it seems that first and last priority for NACF is getting
the $50m or whatever to build a complete structure. Believe
me, it's not as if it's not on our radar, and I've had a couple of
conversations with the lads at Benning, but at this point, we're
not seeing a great meshing of opportunity.
Subject: The Chieftain's Random Musings Thread
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The_Chieftain: As soon as I get into the office this morning: "You're on FTR".
"Oh, God. What was it I did?"
Subject: Portal - Preferências de Língua?
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Capitao_Desastre_: Bom dia a todos 

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Subject: T-34-85 100mm gun
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The_Chieftain: Way back in the days of the five-tier-spread, some vehicles were
designed by the devs to be "giant-killers', to give a the
occasional low-tier tank a chance at being viable. The KV-2 107mm
was another case in point. However, it was long known that if/when
we went to a three-tier spread, the giant-killers would be
ridiculously OP. Thus, these guns were removed, to include the
100mm on the T-34
Subject: i suck at angling
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The_Chieftain: See http://forum.worldof...-armour-angles/
But, yeah, you don't angle an M41. Angling armor implies you
have armor to begin with,
Subject: Springtime for T110 and the Americas
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Tupinambis, on Jan 09 2015 - 05:11, said: I haz an idea.
The Chieftain should represent WOT or WoWS on Hot Pepper Gaming.
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Tupinambis, on Jan 09 2015 - 05:11, said: I haz an idea.The Chieftain should represent WOT or WoWS on Hot Pepper Gaming.
The_Chieftain: On what!?
Subject: Why many don't push the valley anymore? (Lakeville)
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badperson, on Jan 09 2015 - 03:29, said: That's a nice platitude and all, but it's just wrong.
The players and resources committed to a narrow, boggy, death
trap have less "yield" than those same resources committed
elsewhere
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badperson, on Jan 09 2015 - 03:29, said: That's a nice platitude and all, but it's just wrong.
The players and resources committed to a narrow, boggy, death
trap have less "yield" than those same resources committed
elsewhereThe_Chieftain: I am not a huge fan of Patton, but he did understand some
fundamentals. You may be familiar with his phrase "a good plan
executed violently now is better than the perfect plan next week."
This isn't a platitude, it's a fundamental precept which has been
taught for generations. Other sayings such as "get there
firstest with the mostest" (Forrest), "strike with closed
fist, not open hand" and "It is often possible to decide the issue
of a battle merely by making an unexpected shift of one's main
weight" (Rommel). Fundamentally, strike where he isn't
expecting it, and strike hard. The problem with everyone
going to a mutually agreed upon point of contention, such as the
town in lakevile, the rocks in Steppes, the hill on
Himmelsdorf (I remember when people who went up the hill were
laughed at as incompetent noobs) is that it has completely remove
the concept of "strategy" from the game, if both teams always send
the bulk of their forces to the same place, it becomes a melee with
nothing to distinguish winner from loser except RNG and low level
tactics of individuals.
Subject: Should the 113 get buffed? (simple)
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The_Chieftain: Statistics say "no." I must admit, the tank hasn't done
wonders for my win rate, but if I get a good game in, it's
unstoppable. A number of 113 drivers swear by the tank. Given that,
and the overall win rate of the tank, we may just have to conclude
that the tank doesn't suit our play styles.
Subject: Why many don't push the valley anymore? (Lakeville)
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Quote requires taking away the combat power from the parts of the map that actually determine the outcome
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Quote requires taking away the combat power from the parts of the map that actually determine the outcome
The_Chieftain: With respect, if a significant portion of our force has
crushed the enemy in front of it and is sitting on the
objective for the win, did other parts of the map actually
determine the outcome? Or were they simply a part of the overall
play of the map? The team won. The main effort was the
valley push, the supporting efforts were the town and central
ridge. Whether 'town at all costs' people accept it or not, the
valley is always a determining outcome to some extent or another.
Don't believe me? Don't leave anyone there at all and send everyone
to the town. See what happens. There is pretty much always going to
be a main effort and a supporting effort in every game. The
location of that main effort is nowhere near as important as the
emphasis put behind it.
Subject: I finally gave up on trying to get a MOE on a tank.
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The_Chieftain: I tend to only play a tank until I get my double, then move to the
next. As a result, a lot of my vehicles, even those with high win
rates, are mucking around the 10% mark. The last week, I've started
a concerted effort to MoE one tank in particular. (and it's one I'm
good at, over 60% win rate after 200+ battles). My percentage
indicated has been going up nicely, currently in the mid 70s. It
does seem that a concentrated effort is necessary.
Subject: Why many don't push the valley anymore? (Lakeville)
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The_Chieftain: Oddly, I led a valley push today. It worked.
There are basically three requirements for a successful valley
push. 1). Must contain a significant portion of your combat
power. If you don't get buy-in from one or two of your top tanks,
(I was top tank in my M103 and two IS3s came with me) you will
fail. You have to bring enough to overwhelm the defenses.
2). Must have aggressive execution. This should be a no-brainer,
aggressive execution of significant combat power is a winner on
basically every location of every map. The most dangerous thing in
the game is a Wolfpack of aggressively played tanks. Get out of the
killing zone (I.e. Don't stop at the crest, for the love of all
that's holy), get under the guns. Deal with the close defenders,
and keep moving before the enemy repositions. I would wager that
most valley pushes which fail do so due to timidity. 3)
Frankly, a bit of luck. You never know just how much force the
enemy brought to hold the valley until you cross over. However, as
common wisdom says "don't push valley", it is pretty unusual for
the opposition to put more than two or three vehicles on the valley
themselves. I'll try to dig up the replay file.
Subject: #Wargaming Cares - Packages for the Troops
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KMaus: Did you or someone you know, receive a Wargaming Cares package for
the troops? We would love to hear from you!!
What secret loot was the favorite? How did platoon mates react? Send us your photos and videos!
Feel free to leave content here, or post it on your own social channels using the Hashtag #WargamingCares
Don't remember what I'm even talking about? Not sure what Wargaming Cares is? Here's more info on it: http://tinyurl.com/WG-cares
Thanks tankers, and Happy Thursday!
What secret loot was the favorite? How did platoon mates react? Send us your photos and videos!
Feel free to leave content here, or post it on your own social channels using the Hashtag #WargamingCares
Don't remember what I'm even talking about? Not sure what Wargaming Cares is? Here's more info on it: http://tinyurl.com/WG-cares
Thanks tankers, and Happy Thursday!
Subject: #Wargaming Cares - Packages for the Troops
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KMaus: Did you or someone you know, receive a Wargaming Cares package for
the troops? We would love to hear from you!!
What secret loot was the favorite? How did platoon mates react? Send us your photos and videos!
Feel free to leave content here, or post it on your own social channels using the Hashtag #WargamingCares
Don't remember what I'm even talking about? Not sure what Wargaming Cares is? Here's more info on it: http://tinyurl.com/WG-cares
Thanks tankers, and Happy Thursday!
What secret loot was the favorite? How did platoon mates react? Send us your photos and videos!
Feel free to leave content here, or post it on your own social channels using the Hashtag #WargamingCares
Don't remember what I'm even talking about? Not sure what Wargaming Cares is? Here's more info on it: http://tinyurl.com/WG-cares
Thanks tankers, and Happy Thursday!
Subject: Help Lert decide on a camouflage pattern for a 1/16th scale KT
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X32Wright, on Jan 08 2015 - 23:24, said: I would first check if the Wehrmacht had an official
color scheme just like the RLM (Reichsluftfahrtministerium) had
official color schemes for their airplanes.
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X32Wright, on Jan 08 2015 - 23:24, said: I would first check if the Wehrmacht had an official
color scheme just like the RLM (Reichsluftfahrtministerium) had
official color schemes for their airplanes.Lert: No. I'm not trying to make X vehicle of Y division on Z date
on - .... A location. I'm looking to build a goodlooking KT, and
I've decided it's going to be either one of those two schemes.
Subject: Oferta Especial: OXXO
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sasuke97, on Jan 07 2015 - 18:45, said: Hola, hice una compra por Oxxo este lunes y ya pasaron más de dos
días y aun no recibo mi oro. Ya envie dos tickets a soporte y aun
no me los responden. Me podrían ayudar?
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sasuke97, on Jan 07 2015 - 18:45, said: Hola, hice una compra por Oxxo este lunes y ya pasaron más de dos
días y aun no recibo mi oro. Ya envie dos tickets a soporte y aun
no me los responden. Me podrían ayudar?ElPozoleOlmeca: Pido disculpas, los de soporte están un poco atrasados sobre
las épocas navideñas, sigues sin recibir una respuesta o recibir tu
compra?
Subject: Oferta Especial: OXXO
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sasuke97, on Jan 07 2015 - 18:45, said: Hola, hice una compra por Oxxo este lunes y ya pasaron más de dos
días y aun no recibo mi oro. Ya envie dos tickets a soporte y aun
no me los responden. Me podrían ayudar?
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sasuke97, on Jan 07 2015 - 18:45, said: Hola, hice una compra por Oxxo este lunes y ya pasaron más de dos
días y aun no recibo mi oro. Ya envie dos tickets a soporte y aun
no me los responden. Me podrían ayudar?PollotheDestroyer: Pido disculpas, los de soporte están un poco atrasados sobre
las épocas navideñas, sigues sin recibir una respuesta o recibir tu
compra?
Subject: Oferta Especial: OXXO
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sasuke97, on Jan 07 2015 - 18:45, said: Hola, hice una compra por Oxxo este lunes y ya pasaron más de dos
días y aun no recibo mi oro. Ya envie dos tickets a soporte y aun
no me los responden. Me podrían ayudar?
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sasuke97, on Jan 07 2015 - 18:45, said: Hola, hice una compra por Oxxo este lunes y ya pasaron más de dos
días y aun no recibo mi oro. Ya envie dos tickets a soporte y aun
no me los responden. Me podrían ayudar?ApolloArtemis: Pido disculpas, los de soporte están un poco atrasados sobre
las épocas navideñas, sigues sin recibir una respuesta o recibir tu
compra?
Subject: Hemos desplegado la actualización 9.5
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Avenger2040, on Dec 29 2014 - 22:18, said: Ya lo hice y no responden.
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Avenger2040, on Dec 29 2014 - 22:18, said: Ya lo hice y no responden.ElPozoleOlmeca: Te pudiste poner en contacto con los de soporte? Están un
pocos atrasados con lo de navidad y las vacaciones.
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