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Tanitha
Account Cool Down Time
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18.11.2010 18:00:39
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Account Cool Down Time
Link on message: #237986

View PostEchelonIII, on 18 November 2010 - 05:44 AM, said: View PostArgo66, on 17 November 2010 - 06:54 PM, said: If it was me,I would screen shot my apologies including the players name in it so there can be no questions.....You never can say but A picture is worth a thousand words.
And then we'd have so many cases of Nelson Muntz syndrome...
*shoots with 122mm*
"Oops... sorry"
*one round later in troll forum*
"And would you believe the guy thought it was accidental? WHAT A SUCKER!"

Tanitha: And then we'd have so many cases of Nelson Muntz syndrome...
*shoots with 122mm*
"Oops... sorry"
*one round later in troll forum*
"And would you believe the guy thought it was accidental? WHAT A SUCKER!"
Exactly.
Purposely TKing someone then saying "oops sorry" is the other side of the discussion..
Establishing intent (From a screen-shot) is difficult, with or without a "sorry"
Anyway I know they are working on this issue.

View PostArgo66, on 17 November 2010 - 06:54 PM, said: If it was me,I would screen shot my apologies including the players name in it so there can be no questions.....You never can say but A picture is worth a thousand words.

Tanitha:


Tanitha
In-game voice chat being added to WoT
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18.11.2010 17:38:49
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\In-game voice chat being added to WoT
Link on message: #237940

View Posted_anger, on 18 November 2010 - 05:05 PM, said: No announcement on this yet? Massively says WoT is getting voice chat.

Tanitha: I heard a dev say it was coming soon.
I replied cool, as long as it comes with a OFF button.
As for announcements, they will probably come when its ready to be installed.


ARGO
MOW: Assault Squad free beta download on Steam
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18.11.2010 17:36:52
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\MOW: Assault Squad free beta download on Steam
Link on message: #237937

ARGO: Sorry to spoil an otherwise interesting thread, but forums rules clearly dictate a "No advertising" policy. I have included that section below and remind you all to please review forum rules before posting to insure that you do not accidently get yourselves into trouble.
This topic is closed and moved to the junkyard...........
Argo66
2.3 Advertising
We do not allow forum members to post threads or comments here that advertise or solicit any non-beneficial, non- World of Tanks related businesses, organizations, or websites. Explicit advertising and solicitation in signatures are also prohibited.
If a member is found to have been advertising, he/she will:
• Be given a temporary ban from the World of Tanks forums, depending upon severity
Forum rules allow discussing other wargames; however any kind of solicitation of other games is not permitted. Also please do not use images related to games other than World of Tanks in your signature, avatar or name. You are more than welcome to discuss other war games in our Off Topic section but please do not add them in your signature, avatar or name


Tanitha
Trailers
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18.11.2010 17:22:03
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Trailers
Link on message: #237910

View Postxmadragex, on 22 September 2010 - 08:16 PM, said: ok i dont know what you guys eat or smoke but damn this would be the best trailer with comedy, hahaha, watched 8 times i want a copy lol
keep it up i want more lol
http://www.worldofta...om/video-2.html

Tanitha: Here my two favorites
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
And one for the "Adults"
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related


ARGO
IS-4 with 130mm gun?
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18.11.2010 17:15:56
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\IS-4 with 130mm gun?
Link on message: #237899

ARGO: I got this off the internet:
IS-4
1944 design, in competition against the IS-3. Longer hull and thicker armour than IS-2. About 250 were built, after the war.
IS-7
1946 prototype, only three built. The IS-7 model 1948 variant had a weight of 68 metric tons and it was armed with the 130 mm S-70 naval cannon (7020 mm long barrel) with autoloader and stabilizer, infrared night scopes, 8 machine guns, armour from 220 to 300 mm thickness and 60 km/h roadspeed. Crew of five. It must be noted that the Slostin gun was to be installed as its AA armament.


Overlord
We Reached Half Million Active Players
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18.11.2010 16:46:18
 
Subject: We Reached Half Million Active Players
Link on message: #237837

View Posttanitha, on Nov 18 2010 - 12:55, said: View Postleviath, on Nov 18 2010 - 11:36, said: It would be interesting to how many of them play on the russian beta, and how many of them play on the european/usa beta  :rolleyes:

Congratulations by the way !


That should be easy to guess.

Almost no-one is on the russian beta.
European/USA Beta. There is about 185,000 in the forums, Written on the bottom right of our forums.
Russian Release. About 520k in their forums. Written on the bottom right of the Russian forums.
So 700k forum accounts, and 500k game accounts.

If the % of game accounts was the same as the % forum accounts, then it would be...
132k USA/Europe
368k Russian
About..

They wont be accurate, but its a guesstimate.


Overlord:

That should be easy to guess.

Almost no-one is on the russian beta.
European/USA Beta. There is about 185,000 in the forums, Written on the bottom right of our forums.
Russian Release. About 520k in their forums. Written on the bottom right of the Russian forums.
So 700k forum accounts, and 500k game accounts.

If the % of game accounts was the same as the % forum accounts, then it would be...
132k USA/Europe
368k Russian
About..

They wont be accurate, but its a guesstimate.

At the moment we have 175k+ accounts registered in closed beta and 525k+ accounts in Russian version.

View Postleviath, on Nov 18 2010 - 11:36, said: It would be interesting to how many of them play on the russian beta, and how many of them play on the european/usa beta  :rolleyes:

Congratulations by the way !


Overlord:


Overlord
Panther II
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18.11.2010 16:43:05
 
Subject: Panther II
Link on message: #237829

View PostDr_zoidberg01, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:55, said: A panther II is just a normal panther with the (going by wikpedia) Schmalturm turret, 88mm KwK 43 L/71 , an extra 20mm armour on front and sides and 900 horsepower.

I don't know if I would get it ingame. All I'd really be getting is 900 horsepower and 20mm more armour. But then, I'm just making wild guesstimations. Maybe it will be the tank I had to have?


Overlord:
Yup, around 20mm additional armor.


Overlord
The tier 7 SPG
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18.11.2010 16:42:18
 
Subject: The tier 7 SPG
Link on message: #237827

View PostX_Rogue, on Nov 17 2010 - 23:59, said: View PostOverlord, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:38, said: Tier 7 German SPG - Geschutzwagen Tiger
pic
OMFG LOL MUAHAHA. Nice one,really. I can imagine how long it takes to tech it starting with a bison... otherwise I think this Big SPG is just too big to be played @ the size of our current maps. Am I wrong Overlord?

Overlord: OMFG LOL MUAHAHA. Nice one,really. I can imagine how long it takes to tech it starting with a bison... otherwise I think this Big SPG is just too big to be played @ the size of our current maps. Am I wrong Overlord?
Tier 7 spgs are going to be introduced prior to bigger maps.
We will have to cope with it somehow.

View PostOverlord, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:38, said: Tier 7 German SPG - Geschutzwagen Tiger
pic

Overlord:


Tanitha
The Detection System
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18.11.2010 16:22:55
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\The Detection System
Link on message: #237790

Tanitha: The current problems with the detection system are in this current post.
http://forum.worldof...riously-broken/
Please refer to that post for further discussion..


Tanitha
Will World of Tanks always be free?
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18.11.2010 15:01:35
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Will World of Tanks always be free?
Link on message: #237624

View Postsurfing86, on 02 November 2010 - 12:50 PM, said: Any official answers from the development team?

Tanitha: Your questions already have been answered.
And its in stickies and many other threads in the forums.

Quote Will this game cost money?
From an admin, Jeremy Taylor:
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- Premium accounts; the premium gives +50% to credits and gold per battle to the owner. Premium account is a very good thing for players who don't have enough time in real life to dedicate to their favorite game. Still however, this account will not give you any advantages in battles. I mean, Tiger achieved through playing with premium will be absolutely equal to Tiger achieved without any investments. The only advantage is your time saved.
- Premium tanks; these are some prominent special tanks that will be a kind of jewels in the crown of your collection.
- Gold; players will be able to purchase some additional gold to be later exchanged into ingame credits
- Custom features; some personal drawings, insignias, custom camouflage and clan emblems available for money.
Still, we believe that majority of players will be getting tons of fun playing World of Tanks without investing a penny.

Tanitha: Pmed the reply to the poster, Closing thread.


Tanitha
Reduce "suicidal scout run"
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18.11.2010 14:40:35
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Reduce "suicidal scout run"
Link on message: #237584

Tanitha: Firstly, I'm thinking the suicidal scout runs of the past dont work very well any more, with no warping they die too quickly, even leopards.
And secondly, Part of the suicidal scout run, was getting lots of exp from killing arty while you were in the enemy base. That's now a lot harder because you don't live in the enemy base for long.
Another part of the suicidal scout run was lighting up the enemy so your team mates/arty could shoot them, and you get paid support exp for their damage. But again that's now limited because scouts have a limited life in the enemy base now.
I doubt suicidal scouts are earning anywhere near what they used to earn now that warping is fixed.
Scouts are due to be buffed soonish


Tanitha
We Reached Half Million Active Players
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18.11.2010 13:55:58
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\We Reached Half Million Active Players
Link on message: #237519

View Postleviath, on 18 November 2010 - 12:36 PM, said: It would be interesting to how many of them play on the russian beta, and how many of them play on the european/usa beta :rolleyes:
Congratulations by the way !

Tanitha: That should be easy to guess.
Almost no-one is on the russian beta.
European/USA Beta. There is about 185,000 in the forums, Written on the bottom right of our forums.
Russian Release. About 520k in their forums. Written on the bottom right of the Russian forums.
So 700k forum accounts, and 500k game accounts.
If the % of game accounts was the same as the % forum accounts, then it would be...
132k USA/Europe
368k Russian
About..
They wont be accurate, but its a guesstimate.


Overlord
Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
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18.11.2010 13:38:38
 
Subject: Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
Link on message: #237484

View PostSunWuKong, on Nov 18 2010 - 05:31, said: Soooooo - we'll see this in a patch before release? PLEASE!

Overlord: Most likely it will arrive before release.


Tanitha
Official Tank View Range / Spotting Thread
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18.11.2010 13:04:57
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\Official Tank View Range / Spotting Thread
Link on message: #237425

View PostOverlord, on 18 November 2010 - 01:01 PM, said: Most of the problems arise from some obvious problems with spotting/detection system, icluding so-called invisible tanks and malfunctioning modules (camo net, optics etc).
With warping having been fixed in 0.6.1.5 once and for all, the detection system as it is now, remains one of the biggest issue.
Increasing the rate of visibility checks, that currently depend on distance between two vehicles, is going to increase server load substantially. Nevertheless, such option is under consideration and we are planning to see how it works at supertest.

Tanitha: Merging the other post that's been answered by admin/devs. To here.


Tanitha
Official Tank View Range / Spotting Thread
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18.11.2010 12:52:05
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\Official Tank View Range / Spotting Thread
Link on message: #237400

View Postzareh, on 17 November 2010 - 10:21 AM, said: tanitha, how many games have you played since the new patch? Don't take this the wrong way, I'm only curious to know if you haven't noticed this odd behavior?

Tanitha: Ive not played a lot since the patch to be honest mate, maybe 50 games. Sure there is a problem with sighting "IMO".
I didn't/don't know there was any new problems though, because I thought the problem was there before the patch as well and was just as bad before the patch..
The only feedback I've seen so far, is the servers are due for a upgrade which will reduce lag. I don't think the problems are just lag problems though.
Mods have asked devs for a update and more info recently (Today), and devs have been pointed to this thread.
As for my previous post, I was just posting and informing that id merged a few posts on a similar topic into the one thread. The photo of the elephant was just because it was at the end of a 36 hour shift due to not being able to sleep, and I was a bit nuts. Ive not posted any constructive feedback into this thread, because I don't have any at the moment.
Please be patient : )


Tanitha
Official SPG (Artillery) Discussion
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18.11.2010 11:55:39
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Official SPG (Artillery) Discussion
Link on message: #237302

Tanitha: There has been many changes and tweaks to the artillery system up to and including the recent 0.6.1.5 patch.
To keep the discussion on the current topics, 2 new threads have been made to replace this one.
New Thread => General Discussion on the current state of Artillery post 0.6.1.5 patch is to be placed here. Link
New Thread => Constructive Suggestions relating to Artillery are to be placed here. Link
Discussion on German artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on Russian artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on American artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Older archived discussion is here. Link
Posts on artillery outside of the above topics is considered off topic.


Tanitha
SPG (Artillery) Discussion - Where to post.
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18.11.2010 11:51:15
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\SPG (Artillery) Discussion - Where to post.
Link on message: #237293

Tanitha: There has been many changes and tweaks to the artillery system up to and including the recent 0.6.1.5 patch.
Discussion on Artillery is limited to the below sections.
New Thread => General Discussion on the current state of Artillery post 0.6.1.5 patch is to be placed here. Link
New Thread => Constructive Suggestions relating to Artillery are to be placed here. Link
Discussion on German artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on Russian artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on American artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Older archived discussion is here. Link
Posts on artillery outside of the above topics will be considered off topic.


Tanitha
Official SPG (Artillery) Post 0.6.1.5 Suggestions
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18.11.2010 11:42:05
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Official SPG (Artillery) Post 0.6.1.5 Suggestions
Link on message: #237281

Tanitha: There has been many changes and tweaks to the artillery system up to and including the recent 0.6.1.5 patch.
This thread is to contain all the constructive suggestions relating to Artillery within World of Tanks Beta.
General Discussion on the current state of Artillery post 0.6.1.5 patch is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on German artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on Russian artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on American artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Older archived discussion is here. Link
Posts on artillery outside of the above topics will be considered off topic.


Tanitha
Official SPG (Artillery) Post 0.6.1.5 Discussion
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18.11.2010 11:37:47
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Official SPG (Artillery) Post 0.6.1.5 Discussion
Link on message: #237276

Tanitha: There has been many changes and tweaks to the artillery system up to and including the recent 0.6.1.5 patch.
This thread is to contain all the general discussion on the current state of Artillery within World of Tanks Beta.
Constructive Suggestions are to be placed here. Link
Discussion on German artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on Russian artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Discussion on American artillery specifically is to be placed here. Link
Older archived discussion is here. Link
Posts on artillery outside of the above topics will be considered off topic.


MrVic
Day One: Impressions.
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18.11.2010 07:22:07
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Day One: Impressions.
Link on message: #236996

MrVic: Aye good post :)
First days are always fun all sorts of crazy stuff going on and your just trying to figure out what and who your supposed to kill and trying to figure out the best way to go about that lol


MrVic
American garbage
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18.11.2010 06:09:12
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\American garbage
Link on message: #236922

MrVic: Posted in the wrong section, Beta topics are to remain in the beta section. Also does not provide much help for any of such issues :) Closing


Overlord
Panther II
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17.11.2010 23:11:22
 
Subject: Panther II
Link on message: #236306

View PostRovert10, on Nov 17 2010 - 22:03, said: looking good there but whats with the removed tracks???

Overlord: Manufacturing defect. Produced without tracks. (joke)
The model (texture) is not ready.


Overlord
Panther II
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17.11.2010 22:58:44
 
Subject: Panther II
Link on message: #236271

View PostImmOrg, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:53, said: Overlord could You write about armor,gun(88mm like in panther I or better) :]

Overlord: Can't tell anything on armor values at the moment. Regarding guns, 7,5cm KwK 42 L/70 and 7,5cm KwK 45 L/100 for stock turret; 8,8cm KwK 43 L/71 and 10,5cm KwK45 L/52 for Schmalturm.


Overlord
The tier 7 SPG
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17.11.2010 22:56:09
 
Subject: The tier 7 SPG
Link on message: #236261

View PostBaine, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:52, said: View PostOverlord, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:50, said: View PostMalexa, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:48, said: Can it one shot a maus? or do we need tier 8 spg for that?

With its top 210mm gun, perhaps it can, if the shot is very lucky.


Reload time? Also, where is the german T6 arty? :P


Overlord:
With its top 210mm gun, perhaps it can, if the shot is very lucky.


Reload time? Also, where is the german T6 arty? :P

Can't tell you other specs at the moment since they are not ready yet. Geschutzwagenpanther will be revealed soon.

View PostOverlord, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:50, said: View PostMalexa, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:48, said: Can it one shot a maus? or do we need tier 8 spg for that?

With its top 210mm gun, perhaps it can, if the shot is very lucky.


Overlord:

View PostMalexa, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:48, said: Can it one shot a maus? or do we need tier 8 spg for that?


Overlord:


Overlord
The tier 7 SPG
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17.11.2010 22:50:16
 
Subject: The tier 7 SPG
Link on message: #236248

View PostMalexa, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:48, said: Can it one shot a maus? or do we need tier 8 spg for that?


Overlord:
With its top 210mm gun, perhaps it can, if the shot is very lucky.


Tanitha
T29/t32 getting nerfed
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17.11.2010 22:49:13
 
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\American Vehicles\Heavy Tanks\T29/t32 getting nerfed
Link on message: #236246

madgelo, on 17 November 2010 - 10:45 PM, said: we got good news from russian developers about t30s cannon
"Скорость сведения будет поднята на 10%.
Значительно будет уменьшено влияние поворота башни на увеличение разброса."
"Aiming speed will be increased by 10%
Accuracy decrease when moving turret will be reduced significantly"
thank you

Tanitha:


Overlord
Panther II
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17.11.2010 22:48:34
 
Subject: Panther II
Link on message: #236244

View PostDriver134, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:45, said: Is there any hope to see E 100 Please Overlord Please

Overlord: No, unfortunately. Development of E-series is at its early stage currently. We are focused on Soviet and German tanks from full release trees, Pershing + US TDs, and French tanks.
Only then come E-series.


Overlord
Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
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17.11.2010 22:43:35
 
Subject: Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
Link on message: #236230

Overlord: On a side note, see German counterpart http://forum.worldof...209#entry236209


Overlord
Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
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17.11.2010 22:41:08
 
Subject: Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
Link on message: #236221

View PostBaine, on Nov 17 2010 - 21:37, said: Nice, looks well armored!
Edit: What's the gun on that one? The one on the right looks like the 203mm.

Overlord: Two guns, that you are familiar with - 152 and 203 mm.


Overlord
The tier 7 SPG
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17.11.2010 22:38:02
 
Subject: The tier 7 SPG
Link on message: #236209

Overlord: Tier 7 German SPG - Geschutzwagen Tiger

http://lh3.ggpht.com...Kv-I/gtiger.jpg


Overlord
Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
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17.11.2010 22:36:34
 
Subject: Object 212 (KV-3 suspension)
Link on message: #236206

Overlord: Tier 7 Soviet arty
http://lh4.ggpht.com...U/object212.jpg


Overlord
Panther II
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17.11.2010 22:33:45
 
Subject: Panther II
Link on message: #236196

Overlord: Time to start discussions. Tier 9 German medium.
http://lh3.ggpht.com...A/pantherii.jpg


Overlord
T54- How godly could it get?
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17.11.2010 22:27:09
 
Subject: T54- How godly could it get?
Link on message: #236180

Overlord: Guess-game. What vehicle is in the picture?

http://lh3.ggpht.com...riJTR0/t54k.jpg


Overlord
the T44 your opinion
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17.11.2010 22:24:25
 
Subject: the T44 your opinion
Link on message: #236171

View Postrandom51, on Nov 17 2010 - 16:09, said: Can't play the t-44 close anymore and after Overlord's bombshell about long range exp being less than close range there isn't any point in mounting the 122mm and playing a sniper build.

Shelving this tank for now. Kind of annoying seeing as how I got it the week before the patch.


Overlord:
T-44's and Panther's performance dropped after the update. Some changes are possible.


Overlord
Pershing
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17.11.2010 22:08:14
 
Subject: Pershing
Link on message: #236129

View PostFrehelias, on Nov 17 2010 - 12:18, said: Nice to see that tank.

Does the Pershing come alone in a patch or does it come with more tanks like the PantherII?
And is there a time-line ready for these new tanks to come out? Something like beginning of 2011 or December 2010?


Overlord:
Likely that all 3 Tier 9 mediums plus some Soviet and German tanks from full release tree, including top-tier artillery will be added simultaneously.

US TDs are currently in development. 50% completed.


Overlord
T29/t32 getting nerfed
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17.11.2010 22:04:17
 
Subject: T29/t32 getting nerfed
Link on message: #236117

View PostExplicit983, on Nov 17 2010 - 20:53, said:
Overlord no offense but right now the only thing keeping the US tanks on par with their Russian/German counter part is the 20% bug. But just one question once the bug fix is in place and the tier 7-10 US heavys still have the statistical numbers they have now can we expect another nerf ??????


Overlord:
It would be a topic for another conversation, I guess.

Personally, I highly doubt that "another nerf" will be required. We don't want US tanks (tor heavies) to be whipping boys of the game.


Overlord
We Reached Half Million Active Players
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17.11.2010 21:56:54
 
Subject: We Reached Half Million Active Players
Link on message: #236097

View Postkillurz, on Nov 17 2010 - 15:56, said: congrats



its a wicked game:)
u gonna beat WoW in this rate:)
(i would love to see that)


Overlord:

View Posthellig, on Nov 17 2010 - 16:11, said: ermmm  beat 12mill players ?


Overlord:
It's our crazy dream.  :)

But nothing happens unless first a dream, right?


Overlord
T29/t32 getting nerfed
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17.11.2010 21:46:29
 
Subject: T29/t32 getting nerfed
Link on message: #236073

View PostClaymix, on Nov 17 2010 - 19:39, said: This is Beta, right?

The point of Beta is to get feedback on a game in development, right?

Okay, so which feedback do you think is more valuable: the humans you have playing the game, or the statistical numbers being generated?

Wait, before you answer -that- question, answer this one: are you making this game for numbers or for people? For mathematicians or average people?

Okay, so what's more valuable to the players who are trying to enjoy this game? Numbers? No!

Beta isn't simply about numbers and data, it's about the players. C'mon, Devs! Stop throwing numbers around and acting like they are most valuable thing here. Player opinion should carry at least some weight.

That said, I'm not trying to diminish the incredible effort I'm sure is being put into this game by the Dev team. No, that isn't my intention at all! Keep up the hard work, guys.


Overlord:
Can't but agree. Player feedback is important source of information. But when it comes to bugs (20% bugged armor), we just have to fix them. No other option here.

If the performance of US tier 7-10 heavies falls dramatically, we will start to think of possible way out.


ARGO
Cowardly, cowardly custard!
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17.11.2010 20:41:09
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\Cowardly, cowardly custard!
Link on message: #235934

ARGO: That's not a coward, thats a genious! I too used that old trick to defend the base with my Leichtraktor. Good for him for his resourcfullness.


ARGO
"Matchmaking" System
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17.11.2010 20:32:24
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\"Matchmaking" System
Link on message: #235919

ARGO: We all were there, it's very hard until you get up around half the tree but really all you need to do is adapt to the limitaions of your tank while exploiting your enemies.
Use these 3 personal laws of mine to help you....
If you can't crack em, track em.
If you can't out gun em, out run em.
When in doubt, scout.
Argo66


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