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Tanitha
Banned By Self-Defense In Battle...
14.12.2010 13:24:21
Subject: 
Archives\Junkyard\Banned By Self-Defense In Battle...
Link on message: #290196
Haschem, on 14 December 2010 - 12:36 PM, said: DONT SHOOT ANOTHER PLAYER or kill them.
When they shoot on you, make Screenshot, when someone Teamkill you, make Screenshot.
DO NOT Selfdefense by shoot back or kill them.
When someone say "Kill XYZ Person" and you are this Person, make Screenshoot.
Send this Screens to community@worldoftanks.com or to support@worldoftanks.com
But NEVER take Revenge.....
arkhell, on 14 December 2010 - 12:37 PM, said: you aren not allowed to shoot your team even in self defence just
report them with screenshots. you got served basicly by people
trying too get you banned adn they succeded.
next time jsut screenshot wtith crtl+print screen and send the screen to support.
discussing punishment on the forum is not allowed by the way and you risk the chance to get either a temp forum read only ban or permenent forum ban for doing so.
Trill, on 14 December 2010 - 12:37 PM, said: The problem is you killed three of your team mates.
If a team mate is intentionally trying to kill you, screenshot it and report it. Do not retaliate, you already saw what happens when you do that.
Ildryn, on 14 December 2010 - 12:50 PM, said: Shooting another player is against the rules...regardless of
whether or not you were shot first.
Take screen shots of the people shooting you with "Print Screen" Button and report it to
community@worldoftanks.com
Archives\Junkyard\Banned By Self-Defense In Battle...Link on message: #290196
Haschem, on 14 December 2010 - 12:36 PM, said: DONT SHOOT ANOTHER PLAYER or kill them.When they shoot on you, make Screenshot, when someone Teamkill you, make Screenshot.
DO NOT Selfdefense by shoot back or kill them.
When someone say "Kill XYZ Person" and you are this Person, make Screenshoot.
Send this Screens to community@worldoftanks.com or to support@worldoftanks.com
But NEVER take Revenge.....
Tanitha: All correct, except the email address for reporting Tkers is now
support@worldoftanks.com
Disputing bans is also done via email to support@worldoftanks.com And are not allowed within the forums.
I dont think there is much to dispute though, It sounds pretty clear that you broke the game rules and killed your own team.
Excuses for breaking the rules just get out of hand.
I killed him because he shot me, I killed him because he tracked me at the start of the game, I killed him because he was camping, I killed him because he drives a arty, I killed him because he was capping, I killed him because he called me a noob... The list goes on..
The rules are quite simple, dont kill or intentionally damage your team mates or you get banned.
Thread locked.
Disputing bans is also done via email to support@worldoftanks.com And are not allowed within the forums.
I dont think there is much to dispute though, It sounds pretty clear that you broke the game rules and killed your own team.
Excuses for breaking the rules just get out of hand.
I killed him because he shot me, I killed him because he tracked me at the start of the game, I killed him because he was camping, I killed him because he drives a arty, I killed him because he was capping, I killed him because he called me a noob... The list goes on..
The rules are quite simple, dont kill or intentionally damage your team mates or you get banned.
Thread locked.
arkhell, on 14 December 2010 - 12:37 PM, said: you aren not allowed to shoot your team even in self defence just
report them with screenshots. you got served basicly by people
trying too get you banned adn they succeded.next time jsut screenshot wtith crtl+print screen and send the screen to support.
discussing punishment on the forum is not allowed by the way and you risk the chance to get either a temp forum read only ban or permenent forum ban for doing so.
Tanitha:
Trill, on 14 December 2010 - 12:37 PM, said: The problem is you killed three of your team mates.If a team mate is intentionally trying to kill you, screenshot it and report it. Do not retaliate, you already saw what happens when you do that.
Tanitha:
Ildryn, on 14 December 2010 - 12:50 PM, said: Shooting another player is against the rules...regardless of
whether or not you were shot first.Take screen shots of the people shooting you with "Print Screen" Button and report it to
community@worldoftanks.com
Tanitha:
Tanitha
Can'T Get Past Lancher
14.12.2010 11:20:06
Subject: Archives\Beta\Can'T Get Past Lancher
Link on message: #290067
Wreckingcrew, on 14 December 2010 - 10:55 AM, said: I have down loaded the files and added the launcher and the exe
files to my BitDefender to ignor, but I still can't get the game to
check for updates or even play. does anybody have any ideals on
what I need to do? Please help!
Wreckingcrew
Archives\Beta\Can'T Get Past LancherLink on message: #290067
Wreckingcrew, on 14 December 2010 - 10:55 AM, said: I have down loaded the files and added the launcher and the exe
files to my BitDefender to ignor, but I still can't get the game to
check for updates or even play. does anybody have any ideals on
what I need to do? Please help!Wreckingcrew
Tanitha: The current version is 6.1.5
You can download it here. http://game.worldoftanks.com/update
If you are running the correct version you do not need to load the launcher at all, and you can run the worldoftanks.exe file directly.
It seems at the moment. You are blocking the updater.
You can download it here. http://game.worldoftanks.com/update
If you are running the correct version you do not need to load the launcher at all, and you can run the worldoftanks.exe file directly.
It seems at the moment. You are blocking the updater.
Tanitha
Code
14.12.2010 09:51:49
Tanitha
Ban?
14.12.2010 09:28:51
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Polskie Forum\Problemy techniczne\Ban?
Link on message: #289941
Archives\Junkyard\Polskie Forum\Problemy techniczne\Ban?Link on message: #289941
Tanitha: Please report team killers instead of killing them
Team killing is against the rules.
The current rules are not perfect, I'm sure that the rules will be improved many times, but these are the rules that you need to do now.
Closing this thread.
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Prosimy o zgłaszanie killers team zamiast zabijania ich
zabijania Team jest sprzeczne z zasadami.
Obecne przepisy nie są doskonałe, jestem pewien, że przepisy zostaną ulepszone wiele razy, ale takie są zasady, że trzeba zrobić teraz.
Zamknięcie tego wątku.
Team killing is against the rules.
The current rules are not perfect, I'm sure that the rules will be improved many times, but these are the rules that you need to do now.
Closing this thread.
**********
Prosimy o zgłaszanie killers team zamiast zabijania ich
zabijania Team jest sprzeczne z zasadami.
Obecne przepisy nie są doskonałe, jestem pewien, że przepisy zostaną ulepszone wiele razy, ale takie są zasady, że trzeba zrobić teraz.
Zamknięcie tego wątku.
Tanitha
Angekündigter Softwipe
14.12.2010 09:01:34
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Angekündigter Softwipe
Link on message: #289920
Volles_Rohr, on 13 December 2010 - 11:39 PM, said: Liebe Mods,
wird es nicht langsam Zeit, dass der Kollege hier eine Zwangspause im Forum einlegt, weil er meint er dürfe immer wieder aufs neue Leute beleidigen?
Das ist ja wirklich unerträglich hier im deutschen Forum, wenn bei jeder Anregung die man gibt ein paar Leute mit ihrer ignoranten und arroganten Art den ganzen Thread ruinieren.
Da bleiben wir doch wirklich lieber im englischen Forum.
Archives\Junkyard\Angekündigter SoftwipeLink on message: #289920
Volles_Rohr, on 13 December 2010 - 11:39 PM, said: Liebe Mods,wird es nicht langsam Zeit, dass der Kollege hier eine Zwangspause im Forum einlegt, weil er meint er dürfe immer wieder aufs neue Leute beleidigen?
Das ist ja wirklich unerträglich hier im deutschen Forum, wenn bei jeder Anregung die man gibt ein paar Leute mit ihrer ignoranten und arroganten Art den ganzen Thread ruinieren.
Da bleiben wir doch wirklich lieber im englischen Forum.
Tanitha: I know you are disappointed there is no longer a softwipe this
year, But please no insults. There will be an announcement soon
about xmas gifts that hopefully will compensate for some of the
planning for the softwipe.
We are currently seeking more moderators.
http://forum.worldof...or-recruitment/
At the moment we are a bit short.
It is sometimes hard for English moderators to ban, because it is hard to understand how bad the insults are.
Please be patient.
I am closing this message.
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Ich weiß, Sie sind enttäuscht, es ist nicht länger ein softwipe in diesem Jahr, aber bitte keine Beleidigungen. Es wird eine Ankündigung bald über Weihnachten Geschenke, die hoffentlich für einige der Planung für die softwipe kompensieren wird.
Wir suchen derzeit mehr Moderatoren.
http://forum.worldof...or-recruitment/
Im Moment sind wir ein bisschen kurz.
Es ist manchmal schwer für Englisch Moderatoren zu verbieten, denn es ist schwer zu verstehen, wie schlecht die Beleidigungen sind.
Bitte haben Sie Geduld.
Ich schließe diese Nachricht.
We are currently seeking more moderators.
http://forum.worldof...or-recruitment/
At the moment we are a bit short.
It is sometimes hard for English moderators to ban, because it is hard to understand how bad the insults are.
Please be patient.
I am closing this message.
*****************
Ich weiß, Sie sind enttäuscht, es ist nicht länger ein softwipe in diesem Jahr, aber bitte keine Beleidigungen. Es wird eine Ankündigung bald über Weihnachten Geschenke, die hoffentlich für einige der Planung für die softwipe kompensieren wird.
Wir suchen derzeit mehr Moderatoren.
http://forum.worldof...or-recruitment/
Im Moment sind wir ein bisschen kurz.
Es ist manchmal schwer für Englisch Moderatoren zu verbieten, denn es ist schwer zu verstehen, wie schlecht die Beleidigungen sind.
Bitte haben Sie Geduld.
Ich schließe diese Nachricht.
Overlord
Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
14.12.2010 01:15:10
Subject: Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
Link on message: #289477
ST61, on Dec 13 2010 - 20:23, said: Movies:
Battle 1: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=0epJYJaBRCY
Battle 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=BE6vgsZQHMo
Battle 3*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=D3-GsW8qZb8
Battle 4 (3)*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=j1aGp0DS_r4
*) Rule was that first 5 minutes of fight is for set up (no shooting, no crossing middle of map). In 3rd battle someone from Russians shot German tank, someone returned fire and unplanned battle started. This battle wasn't count into total score.
Last two movies are still under proccessing, and I don't know why it's taking so long. Here are links, when YT finish what's doing it will be there (I hope).
Also I don't know why sound is so disturbed
Not my foult 
Link on message: #289477
ST61, on Dec 13 2010 - 20:23, said: Movies:Battle 1: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=0epJYJaBRCY
Battle 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=BE6vgsZQHMo
Battle 3*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=D3-GsW8qZb8
Battle 4 (3)*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=j1aGp0DS_r4
*) Rule was that first 5 minutes of fight is for set up (no shooting, no crossing middle of map). In 3rd battle someone from Russians shot German tank, someone returned fire and unplanned battle started. This battle wasn't count into total score.
Last two movies are still under proccessing, and I don't know why it's taking so long. Here are links, when YT finish what's doing it will be there (I hope).
Also I don't know why sound is so disturbed
Not my foult Overlord:
Thanks of the videos and for the images. What UI mod are you using?
Did you have any predefined scenario for the battle? I mean instructions for certain plyers or groups. Or just limitations from the opening post?
We are interested in staging some major historical battles ourselves, your experience might be useful.
Thanks of the videos and for the images. What UI mod are you using?
Did you have any predefined scenario for the battle? I mean instructions for certain plyers or groups. Or just limitations from the opening post?
We are interested in staging some major historical battles ourselves, your experience might be useful.
Overlord
Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
14.12.2010 01:15:10
Subject: Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
Link on message: #289477
ST61, on Dec 13 2010 - 20:23, said: Movies:
Battle 1: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=0epJYJaBRCY
Battle 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=BE6vgsZQHMo
Battle 3*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=D3-GsW8qZb8
Battle 4 (3)*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=j1aGp0DS_r4
*) Rule was that first 5 minutes of fight is for set up (no shooting, no crossing middle of map). In 3rd battle someone from Russians shot German tank, someone returned fire and unplanned battle started. This battle wasn't count into total score.
Last two movies are still under proccessing, and I don't know why it's taking so long. Here are links, when YT finish what's doing it will be there (I hope).
Also I don't know why sound is so disturbed Not my foult
Link on message: #289477
ST61, on Dec 13 2010 - 20:23, said: Movies:Battle 1: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=0epJYJaBRCY
Battle 2: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=BE6vgsZQHMo
Battle 3*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=D3-GsW8qZb8
Battle 4 (3)*: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=j1aGp0DS_r4
*) Rule was that first 5 minutes of fight is for set up (no shooting, no crossing middle of map). In 3rd battle someone from Russians shot German tank, someone returned fire and unplanned battle started. This battle wasn't count into total score.
Last two movies are still under proccessing, and I don't know why it's taking so long. Here are links, when YT finish what's doing it will be there (I hope).
Also I don't know why sound is so disturbed
Not my foult Overlord:
Thanks of the videos and for the images. What UI mod are you using?
Did you have any predefined scenario for the battle? I mean instructions for certain plyers or groups. Or just limitations from the opening post?
We are interested in staging some major historical battles ourselves, your experience might be useful.
Thanks of the videos and for the images. What UI mod are you using?
Did you have any predefined scenario for the battle? I mean instructions for certain plyers or groups. Or just limitations from the opening post?
We are interested in staging some major historical battles ourselves, your experience might be useful.
Overlord
Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
14.12.2010 01:07:04
Subject: Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
Link on message: #289458
ZorinWarfield, on Dec 12 2010 - 00:47, said:
Yes, we hope to have some recordings of the battles. Are you planning to allow recording tracks in game any time soon? A system like the one used by the IL-2 Sturmovik series would be very neat. That way we could rerun the track with different skins and game settings to achieve maximum visuall quality. Same goes with the ability to actually toggle off the entire GUI for making screenshots.
Link on message: #289458
ZorinWarfield, on Dec 12 2010 - 00:47, said: Yes, we hope to have some recordings of the battles. Are you planning to allow recording tracks in game any time soon? A system like the one used by the IL-2 Sturmovik series would be very neat. That way we could rerun the track with different skins and game settings to achieve maximum visuall quality. Same goes with the ability to actually toggle off the entire GUI for making screenshots.
Overlord:
Yes, built-in feature that will allow to shoot battle is planned to be implemented. Can't tell you when exactly. Unfortunately.
Yes, built-in feature that will allow to shoot battle is planned to be implemented. Can't tell you when exactly. Unfortunately.
Overlord
Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
14.12.2010 01:07:04
Subject: Historic Battle - Event No.7 - Battle Of Raseiniai
Link on message: #289458
ZorinWarfield, on Dec 12 2010 - 00:47, said:
Yes, we hope to have some recordings of the battles. Are you planning to allow recording tracks in game any time soon? A system like the one used by the IL-2 Sturmovik series would be very neat. That way we could rerun the track with different skins and game settings to achieve maximum visuall quality. Same goes with the ability to actually toggle off the entire GUI for making screenshots.
Link on message: #289458
ZorinWarfield, on Dec 12 2010 - 00:47, said: Yes, we hope to have some recordings of the battles. Are you planning to allow recording tracks in game any time soon? A system like the one used by the IL-2 Sturmovik series would be very neat. That way we could rerun the track with different skins and game settings to achieve maximum visuall quality. Same goes with the ability to actually toggle off the entire GUI for making screenshots.
Overlord:
Yes, built-in feature that will allow to shoot battle is planned to be implemented. Can't tell you when exactly. Unfortunately.
Yes, built-in feature that will allow to shoot battle is planned to be implemented. Can't tell you when exactly. Unfortunately.
ARGO
The grass is always greener on the other side....
13.12.2010 22:41:05
Subject: Game Discussion\Newcomers' Forum\The grass is always greener on the other side....
Link on message: #289160
Game Discussion\Newcomers' Forum\The grass is always greener on the other side....Link on message: #289160
ARGO: I finally got me an IS7,My 1st tier 10 and A lot of work and a lot
of $$$.
So Now I want to add my thoughts on this super heavy for all the newcomers:
Is it a good tank? Yes, it is fantastic
Does it Kick rump? Like no ones business
Is it better than the IS4? NO it is not
Why? Because when your in it, you are everyones target and I mean EVERYONES from arty to mediums they all want you dead. Theres an old proverb "It's not easy being the King" and it's true because when your trucking around in a Maus/IS7 everyone will try to make a name for themselves over your dead carcass so that's a price you must be willing to pay if your going for the gusto.
I strongly suggest to you to have your IS4/IS3 for back up, I am glad I kept mine because they are not so much of a Tank magnet. Now don't get me wrong and think I hate it or it's bad, It's not at all a bad tank but remember this before you leap into it.
You will absolutly need premium to run it a lot.
You will spend over 25,000 to fix it
You will spend over 18,000 for shells if you run low
You will be everyones 1st target
You will be expected to lead the charge most of the time
So Now I want to add my thoughts on this super heavy for all the newcomers:
Is it a good tank? Yes, it is fantastic
Does it Kick rump? Like no ones business
Is it better than the IS4? NO it is not
Why? Because when your in it, you are everyones target and I mean EVERYONES from arty to mediums they all want you dead. Theres an old proverb "It's not easy being the King" and it's true because when your trucking around in a Maus/IS7 everyone will try to make a name for themselves over your dead carcass so that's a price you must be willing to pay if your going for the gusto.
I strongly suggest to you to have your IS4/IS3 for back up, I am glad I kept mine because they are not so much of a Tank magnet. Now don't get me wrong and think I hate it or it's bad, It's not at all a bad tank but remember this before you leap into it.
You will absolutly need premium to run it a lot.
You will spend over 25,000 to fix it
You will spend over 18,000 for shells if you run low
You will be everyones 1st target
You will be expected to lead the charge most of the time
ARGO
The deadliest player in the game
13.12.2010 22:23:27
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Light Tanks\The deadliest player in the game
Link on message: #289125
LordN, on 11 November 2010 - 07:41 PM, said: To original poster:
t44 does the same stuff, it just way better armored and has more hp and way bigger gun. if you didn't know.. it's almost as fast. If you think leopard is bad ass.. try 3 t44's charging your home base right in the start.. they will kill half of your team by themselfs with artillery support.. Then if you get really unlucky.. the enemy heavies show up when your still trying to clean the t44's out in the artillery shell rain.
In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Light Tanks\The deadliest player in the gameLink on message: #289125
LordN, on 11 November 2010 - 07:41 PM, said: To original poster:t44 does the same stuff, it just way better armored and has more hp and way bigger gun. if you didn't know.. it's almost as fast. If you think leopard is bad ass.. try 3 t44's charging your home base right in the start.. they will kill half of your team by themselfs with artillery support.. Then if you get really unlucky.. the enemy heavies show up when your still trying to clean the t44's out in the artillery shell rain.
ARGO: To be honest, You are right.....T-44s or Panthers would indeed be a
lethal wolf pack ingame since the last patch. Would love that
tactical advantage ingame myself.
ARGO
Team Kill
13.12.2010 22:11:28
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\Team Kill
Link on message: #289096
Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\Team KillLink on message: #289096
ARGO: Ah yes, TK talk....again.
Here are 3 rules to assist anyone who feels the need to commit a TK.
1. TEAM KILLING IS AGAINST THE RULES NO MATTER THE REASON. "You will absolutly get banned if caught Guarenteed"
2. ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO JOIN A STANDARD MATCH.
3. IF YOU FEEL YOU DON"T AGREE WITH THE RULES, SEE RULE #1 AND REPEAT AS NECESSARY.
I hope this clears things up
Here are 3 rules to assist anyone who feels the need to commit a TK.
1. TEAM KILLING IS AGAINST THE RULES NO MATTER THE REASON. "You will absolutly get banned if caught Guarenteed"
2. ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO JOIN A STANDARD MATCH.
3. IF YOU FEEL YOU DON"T AGREE WITH THE RULES, SEE RULE #1 AND REPEAT AS NECESSARY.
I hope this clears things up
ARGO
The Magic Vending Machine!
13.12.2010 20:48:29
Subject: Off-Topic Discussion\Off-Topic\The Magic Vending Machine!
Link on message: #288926
Off-Topic Discussion\Off-Topic\The Magic Vending Machine!Link on message: #288926
ARGO: You get a lot of boken fences and a lot of ticked of Germans
I put in a Batmobile
I put in a Batmobile
ARGO
Why Is-4 It'S So Op.
13.12.2010 20:34:49
Subject: Off-Topic Discussion\Off-Topic\Why Is-4 It'S So Op.
Link on message: #288905
Off-Topic Discussion\Off-Topic\Why Is-4 It'S So Op.Link on message: #288905
ARGO: IS4s keep Leichtraktors as pets much like people keep a pet
schnauzer. IS4s can be seen taking their pet Loltraktors for walks
in the park. If you mess with the loltraktor, your messing with the
IS4....not cool.
Tanitha
Beginners
13.12.2010 20:18:38
Subject: Archives\Beta\Beginners
Link on message: #288887
Lucid, on 13 December 2010 - 01:25 PM, said: Hello just registered to this forum so i could ask a few questions
guys,btw ive been a WWII nut for over 20 years,first thing i have
to ask is i really didnt like the look of the "auto aim" feature,is
this what it really dose? as im surprised that a game like this
should come not down to skill level not how fast you can click an
"auto aim" button?..please tell me this i'snt true,also..is this
game really free to play? im asking this as i dont want to have to
spend hours downloading the client and updates to find this game
really isnt for me 
Lucid, on 13 December 2010 - 01:25 PM, said: P.S. i was a little worried about admins here being a little over
zealous with bans and telling people off for minor infractions,i
dont really want to become involved in a community where we have to
live with "forum nazis"...ive had enough of them in the past and
they scare people away,would like to become a regular player if
this game is what i think it is,thanks for any helpful replys.
Archives\Beta\BeginnersLink on message: #288887
Lucid, on 13 December 2010 - 01:25 PM, said: Hello just registered to this forum so i could ask a few questions
guys,btw ive been a WWII nut for over 20 years,first thing i have
to ask is i really didnt like the look of the "auto aim" feature,is
this what it really dose? as im surprised that a game like this
should come not down to skill level not how fast you can click an
"auto aim" button?..please tell me this i'snt true,also..is this
game really free to play? im asking this as i dont want to have to
spend hours downloading the client and updates to find this game
really isnt for me Tanitha: Auto aim aims at the turret. That's not good because its usually
heavily armored. So its much better to aim elsewhere. Also for a
moving target you dont aim at the tank you aim in front of it, So
again auto aim isn't very good. Auto aim is there, manual aim is
better.
Lucid, on 13 December 2010 - 01:25 PM, said: P.S. i was a little worried about admins here being a little over
zealous with bans and telling people off for minor infractions,i
dont really want to become involved in a community where we have to
live with "forum nazis"...ive had enough of them in the past and
they scare people away,would like to become a regular player if
this game is what i think it is,thanks for any helpful replys.Tanitha: The rules are pretty clear, and mods do the job they were asked to
do, which is enforce those rules. Have a read through them, and
there shouldn't be any problems.
http://forum.worldof.../forum/4-rules/
Welcome.
http://forum.worldof.../forum/4-rules/
Welcome.
Tanitha
Transfer Gold To Another Account
13.12.2010 20:01:47
Subject: Archives\Beta\Questions\Transfer Gold To Another Account
Link on message: #288858
Morrigan, on 13 December 2010 - 07:54 PM, said: I thought gold would also be a reward for owning provinces in the
strategic map game?
Archives\Beta\Questions\Transfer Gold To Another AccountLink on message: #288858
Morrigan, on 13 December 2010 - 07:54 PM, said: I thought gold would also be a reward for owning provinces in the
strategic map game?Tanitha: Its not finalized yet, but it was stated some regions would supply
gold. I think we need to wait for more info and clan wars testing
to get closer though for more info.
ARGO
High Tier Responsability
13.12.2010 18:40:49
Subject: Archives\Beta\High Tier Responsability
Link on message: #288686
Tic, on 11 December 2010 - 10:49 PM, said: I wanted to have the community feeling about the responsabilty of
piloting a high tier tank.
I don't pilot an uber high tier tank, just a T-44, but when i see i'm in the top 3 of the tank list i think that what i will decide to do will have an impact on the whole battle. I mean that if i get pwnd early in the match, the lack of a high tier tier tank will penalize the whole team.
So, when you are in a T-44 i think that you need to take risks and be in the front line to be effective with your tank class. The problem is that in WoT, when you take risks you are about to be smashed hard and quick. I recently took a Panther's shot in my ammo rack and went from 100% hp to 0% hp with one shot.
The question is, what do you guys think you have to do, try to be effective at what your tank is designed for and risk to penalize your team if you fail or just be verry cautionous and don't participate enough regarding your tank tier ?
Archives\Beta\High Tier ResponsabilityLink on message: #288686
Tic, on 11 December 2010 - 10:49 PM, said: I wanted to have the community feeling about the responsabilty of
piloting a high tier tank.I don't pilot an uber high tier tank, just a T-44, but when i see i'm in the top 3 of the tank list i think that what i will decide to do will have an impact on the whole battle. I mean that if i get pwnd early in the match, the lack of a high tier tier tank will penalize the whole team.
So, when you are in a T-44 i think that you need to take risks and be in the front line to be effective with your tank class. The problem is that in WoT, when you take risks you are about to be smashed hard and quick. I recently took a Panther's shot in my ammo rack and went from 100% hp to 0% hp with one shot.
The question is, what do you guys think you have to do, try to be effective at what your tank is designed for and risk to penalize your team if you fail or just be verry cautionous and don't participate enough regarding your tank tier ?
ARGO: Just as you have a legitimate point, There is also a counter point
which is equally important. When your teams Super Heavy is out
there, That tank needs to have serious back up from Arty + Mediums
because like arty, when you lose your heavyies 9 out of 10 ten
times you lose.
Fact: Heavies are only as effective as their back up is.
Fact: Heavies themselves can't win games but they can lose them without support.
Fact: Heavies Usually account for most of the damage inflicted on other heavies so Arty/Mediums can take em out.
You are right about the occasional "P.U.T.T.S" players who think they are Patton and want to go it alone and you may never be able to change that, but this problem isn't just to do with Heavies, it takes the entire team to win a game. Not just heavies or mediums, or Arty.....It takes teamwork and communication.
Fact: Heavies are only as effective as their back up is.
Fact: Heavies themselves can't win games but they can lose them without support.
Fact: Heavies Usually account for most of the damage inflicted on other heavies so Arty/Mediums can take em out.
You are right about the occasional "P.U.T.T.S" players who think they are Patton and want to go it alone and you may never be able to change that, but this problem isn't just to do with Heavies, it takes the entire team to win a game. Not just heavies or mediums, or Arty.....It takes teamwork and communication.
ARGO
Todays Trend Seems To Be...
13.12.2010 18:23:23
Subject: Archives\Beta\Todays Trend Seems To Be...
Link on message: #288666
TheOctagon, on 13 December 2010 - 12:57 AM, said: I noticed (and got killed) on quite a few maps today, that most
heavies and mediums aren't even bothering to stop the lights that
are rushing the base. Now before the flames begin, Kudo's to those
tankers that do.
I look across the base when I see the mini-map light up, see all 10 green dots surrounding him and figure they'll do their jobs and kill him.
Next thing I know, the same light tank is capping AND EVERYONE'S STILL MOVING AWAY FROM BASE! The arty has to deal with him, and we lose a few everytime because HE'S SPOTTING FOR HIS OWN ARTILLERY!
Now, all the tanks that let him go by get pummeled by the enemy artillery, which is getting no counter-artillery fire due to the fact they were killed in the beginning. Suddenly its the artillery that gets told that they suck for not doing their jobs?! Frak THAT!
You know their going to rush with light tanks. It happens every map these days. Even on Campinova there's always one or two guys in light tanks who try to scoot across the middle, and usually get one or two units killed by our opponents side. Again, because his artillery is watching.
It only takes a few seconds to finish those guys off and your not starting the match two units in the hole before the real battle begins.
Sorry for ranting guys, but losing matches is mostly due to the fact that:
No one RETREATS when they should. Tanks are blowing up all around them but screw it, just keep going!
Their using their mad rushing skills(I laugh here), get to a bottleneck, the lead tank stops and everyone behind him is artillery fodder. And the ARTLLERY sucks for killing them. Okee, how about that guy up front...
Teamwork. I'm not even going to try to explain. Watch some sports maybe?
Communication. Get told to 'stfu' a few times and why bother calling for help at all? If they cap, it can always get blamed on somebody else for being a 'n00b' team.
Nobody covers anybody else. Pretty self explanatory.
I applaud those gamers who say 'gg' at the end of a match. It shows sportsmanship is not completely dead. Just dying.
I could keep going, but I'm sure there will be a few added in later posts.
Okay I'm ready, let the flaming begin..
Archives\Beta\Todays Trend Seems To Be...Link on message: #288666
TheOctagon, on 13 December 2010 - 12:57 AM, said: I noticed (and got killed) on quite a few maps today, that most
heavies and mediums aren't even bothering to stop the lights that
are rushing the base. Now before the flames begin, Kudo's to those
tankers that do.I look across the base when I see the mini-map light up, see all 10 green dots surrounding him and figure they'll do their jobs and kill him.
Next thing I know, the same light tank is capping AND EVERYONE'S STILL MOVING AWAY FROM BASE! The arty has to deal with him, and we lose a few everytime because HE'S SPOTTING FOR HIS OWN ARTILLERY!
Now, all the tanks that let him go by get pummeled by the enemy artillery, which is getting no counter-artillery fire due to the fact they were killed in the beginning. Suddenly its the artillery that gets told that they suck for not doing their jobs?! Frak THAT!
You know their going to rush with light tanks. It happens every map these days. Even on Campinova there's always one or two guys in light tanks who try to scoot across the middle, and usually get one or two units killed by our opponents side. Again, because his artillery is watching.
It only takes a few seconds to finish those guys off and your not starting the match two units in the hole before the real battle begins.
Sorry for ranting guys, but losing matches is mostly due to the fact that:
No one RETREATS when they should. Tanks are blowing up all around them but screw it, just keep going!
Their using their mad rushing skills(I laugh here), get to a bottleneck, the lead tank stops and everyone behind him is artillery fodder. And the ARTLLERY sucks for killing them. Okee, how about that guy up front...
Teamwork. I'm not even going to try to explain. Watch some sports maybe?
Communication. Get told to 'stfu' a few times and why bother calling for help at all? If they cap, it can always get blamed on somebody else for being a 'n00b' team.
Nobody covers anybody else. Pretty self explanatory.
I applaud those gamers who say 'gg' at the end of a match. It shows sportsmanship is not completely dead. Just dying.
I could keep going, but I'm sure there will be a few added in later posts.
Okay I'm ready, let the flaming begin..
ARGO: Clearly you have come across players suffering from "P.U.T.T.S" it
is explained in gory details here:
http://forum.worldof...pread-of-putts/
http://forum.worldof...pread-of-putts/
ARGO
Quiting Till The American Tanks Are Fixed Or Removed
13.12.2010 17:26:30
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Quiting Till The American Tanks Are Fixed Or Removed
Link on message: #288535
Cragarion, on 13 December 2010 - 05:34 AM, said: Well gameplay is now just dumb you have tier 10 tanks unable to
kill tier 7 american tanks due to the armor bug, and even on
premium you cant make any money due to the amount of shells you
have to use to destroy bugged american tanks.
Archives\Junkyard\Quiting Till The American Tanks Are Fixed Or RemovedLink on message: #288535
Cragarion, on 13 December 2010 - 05:34 AM, said: Well gameplay is now just dumb you have tier 10 tanks unable to
kill tier 7 american tanks due to the armor bug, and even on
premium you cant make any money due to the amount of shells you
have to use to destroy bugged american tanks.ARGO: So your quitting the Beta test because you found a bug am I correct
on this? Did you take the time to check with other players
regarding tips to deal with the American tanks? Did you make a note
to the Devs? Well I am going to give you a few tips to try before
you decied to go and quit.
1. Take off auto aim when attacking a American tank because they have really tough turrets even for an IS4 S-70 gun.
2. Aim for the body "chassis" or tracks "yes you will do great damage if you have a big gun.
3. Try HE on them.."Works well for me and messes them all up"
4. Use the philosophys if your smaller then them "If you can't out gun them, out run them" or "Surround then pound".
I drive a IS4 + VK3601H and I have NO problems dealing with American tanks with either of mine in fact, I have killed more T-29s with my VK than my IS4. Once you start hitting them below their turrets is game over for them.
I hope this helps you and remember that the way to win in this Beta is simple: "Adapt and overcome".
1. Take off auto aim when attacking a American tank because they have really tough turrets even for an IS4 S-70 gun.
2. Aim for the body "chassis" or tracks "yes you will do great damage if you have a big gun.
3. Try HE on them.."Works well for me and messes them all up"
4. Use the philosophys if your smaller then them "If you can't out gun them, out run them" or "Surround then pound".
I drive a IS4 + VK3601H and I have NO problems dealing with American tanks with either of mine in fact, I have killed more T-29s with my VK than my IS4. Once you start hitting them below their turrets is game over for them.
I hope this helps you and remember that the way to win in this Beta is simple: "Adapt and overcome".
Tanitha
Invader Medal
13.12.2010 15:16:36
Subject: Technical Support & Bug Reporting\Localization & Translation\Invader Medal
Link on message: #288309
arkhell, on 13 December 2010 - 03:10 PM, said: base has to be totally captured and you alone should at least have
made 80 point contribution to the cap so if it' at 99 and map ends
you won't get it.
Technical Support & Bug Reporting\Localization & Translation\Invader MedalLink on message: #288309
arkhell, on 13 December 2010 - 03:10 PM, said: base has to be totally captured and you alone should at least have
made 80 point contribution to the cap so if it' at 99 and map ends
you won't get it.Tanitha: It is this.
The base needs to be captured. You need 80+% of the capture percent.
So if you are capture 80% of the base and 5 other tanks rock up to help you finish the cap, the base is captured and you get the invader medal.
In your case the base was not captured at all. The game ended with all tanks killed, before the base was captured. So you captured 0..
The same as if you capture 80% then leave the circle, or if you capture 80% then got shot and it resets your marker..
I'm happy the way it is.. To get points and medals for capping, you need to complete the cap.
The base needs to be captured. You need 80+% of the capture percent.
So if you are capture 80% of the base and 5 other tanks rock up to help you finish the cap, the base is captured and you get the invader medal.
In your case the base was not captured at all. The game ended with all tanks killed, before the base was captured. So you captured 0..
The same as if you capture 80% then leave the circle, or if you capture 80% then got shot and it resets your marker..
I'm happy the way it is.. To get points and medals for capping, you need to complete the cap.
Tanitha
Britannia Clan Recruiting
13.12.2010 12:46:57
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Britannia Clan Recruiting
Link on message: #288072
Archives\Junkyard\Britannia Clan RecruitingLink on message: #288072
Tanitha: I cleaned some trash out of your clan thread.. Nice video's by the
way.
Good luck with your clan.
Good luck with your clan.
Tanitha
Ap Rounds Bouncing On Ground
13.12.2010 12:31:35
Subject: Archives\Beta\Ap Rounds Bouncing On Ground
Link on message: #288047
Archives\Beta\Ap Rounds Bouncing On GroundLink on message: #288047
Tanitha: Moved to general discussion for players to discuss, for now..
Overlord
When are US TDs available? <eom>
13.12.2010 12:07:42
Subject: When are US TDs available? <eom>
Link on message: #288006
SchlitzerMcGoerg, on Dec 12 2010 - 10:38, said: I know it´s in wrong thread but you told in another threat that
Full german Techtree will come together with TD´s of america. So i
would like to know 2 things.
1.Will the E-series be released together with US-TD´s?
2.Will the US-TD´s and the E-series released in the beta and before the hard wipe and the launch of the game?
Sorry for maybe wrong threat but i want to know this so that i can decide for myself if it makes any sense to concentrate on german heavy tree.
Link on message: #288006
SchlitzerMcGoerg, on Dec 12 2010 - 10:38, said: I know it´s in wrong thread but you told in another threat that
Full german Techtree will come together with TD´s of america. So i
would like to know 2 things.1.Will the E-series be released together with US-TD´s?
2.Will the US-TD´s and the E-series released in the beta and before the hard wipe and the launch of the game?
Sorry for maybe wrong threat but i want to know this so that i can decide for myself if it makes any sense to concentrate on german heavy tree.
Overlord:
Likely that US TDs will be added after the game goes live (Ferbuary-March 2011). Regarding E-series, even can't give you any rough date.
Likely that US TDs will be added after the game goes live (Ferbuary-March 2011). Regarding E-series, even can't give you any rough date.
Overlord
When are US TDs available? <eom>
13.12.2010 12:07:42
Subject: When are US TDs available? <eom>
Link on message: #288006
SchlitzerMcGoerg, on Dec 12 2010 - 10:38, said: I know it´s in wrong thread but you told in another threat that
Full german Techtree will come together with TD´s of america. So i
would like to know 2 things.
1.Will the E-series be released together with US-TD´s?
2.Will the US-TD´s and the E-series released in the beta and before the hard wipe and the launch of the game?
Sorry for maybe wrong threat but i want to know this so that i can decide for myself if it makes any sense to concentrate on german heavy tree.
Link on message: #288006
SchlitzerMcGoerg, on Dec 12 2010 - 10:38, said: I know it´s in wrong thread but you told in another threat that
Full german Techtree will come together with TD´s of america. So i
would like to know 2 things.1.Will the E-series be released together with US-TD´s?
2.Will the US-TD´s and the E-series released in the beta and before the hard wipe and the launch of the game?
Sorry for maybe wrong threat but i want to know this so that i can decide for myself if it makes any sense to concentrate on german heavy tree.
Overlord:
Likely that US TDs will be added after the game goes live (Ferbuary-March 2011). Regarding E-series, even can't give you any rough date.
Likely that US TDs will be added after the game goes live (Ferbuary-March 2011). Regarding E-series, even can't give you any rough date.
Tanitha
Just A Few Ideas To Improve Gameplay
13.12.2010 11:55:46
Subject: Archives\Beta\Just A Few Ideas To Improve Gameplay
Link on message: #287990
Archives\Beta\Just A Few Ideas To Improve GameplayLink on message: #287990
Tanitha: No more insults please, they are only minor ATM, but escalating.
So.. enough is enough.
Tanitha
Schon Wieder Artynerf?
13.12.2010 11:50:58
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Schon Wieder Artynerf?
Link on message: #287981
Archives\Junkyard\Schon Wieder Artynerf?Link on message: #287981
Tanitha: Please keep the posts constructive, without insults.
I do not speak German, I had to use a translator to read this thread. So I apologize if the German is not perfect.
Bitte halten Sie die Beiträge konstruktiv, ohne Beleidigungen.
Ich spreche kein Deutsch, musste ich einen Übersetzer zu verwenden, um diesen Thread gelesen. Also ich entschuldige mich, wenn die Deutsch ist nicht perfekt.
I do not speak German, I had to use a translator to read this thread. So I apologize if the German is not perfect.
Bitte halten Sie die Beiträge konstruktiv, ohne Beleidigungen.
Ich spreche kein Deutsch, musste ich einen Übersetzer zu verwenden, um diesen Thread gelesen. Also ich entschuldige mich, wenn die Deutsch ist nicht perfekt.
MrVic
Wot Newsletter Volume #4
13.12.2010 10:17:13
Subject: News from the Front\World of Tanks Newsletter\Wot Newsletter Volume #4
Link on message: #287858
Cobra6, on 13 December 2010 - 09:44 AM, said: So now we ARE getting a softwipe? I thought you guys found a
procedure to split the databases without the need to wipe
everything?
Cobra 6
News from the Front\World of Tanks Newsletter\Wot Newsletter Volume #4Link on message: #287858
Cobra6, on 13 December 2010 - 09:44 AM, said: So now we ARE getting a softwipe? I thought you guys found a
procedure to split the databases without the need to wipe
everything?Cobra 6
MrVic: Its still that way you were reading the archived info, Its delayed
until closers to clan wars, were looking at server split and patch
later this month tho
Thats listed in the archive of past newsletter info hence the heading...
Guess I will stop the archive on those since it can be confused..
Thats listed in the archive of past newsletter info hence the heading...
Guess I will stop the archive on those since it can be confused..
MrVic
Wot Newsletter Volume #4
13.12.2010 10:17:13
Subject: Wot Newsletter Volume #4
Link on message: #287858
Cobra6, on Dec 13 2010 - 08:44, said: So now we ARE getting a softwipe? I thought you guys found a
procedure to split the databases without the need to wipe
everything?
Cobra 6
Link on message: #287858
Cobra6, on Dec 13 2010 - 08:44, said: So now we ARE getting a softwipe? I thought you guys found a
procedure to split the databases without the need to wipe
everything?Cobra 6
MrVic:
Its still that way you were reading the archived info, Its delayed until closers to clan wars, were looking at server split and patch later this month tho
Thats listed in the archive of past newsletter info hence the heading...
Guess I will stop the archive on those since it can be confused..
Its still that way you were reading the archived info, Its delayed until closers to clan wars, were looking at server split and patch later this month tho
Thats listed in the archive of past newsletter info hence the heading...
Guess I will stop the archive on those since it can be confused..
Tanitha
About to give up...
13.12.2010 09:45:48
Subject: Archives\Beta\About to give up...
Link on message: #287833
Cross, on 30 November 2010 - 02:16 AM, said: But I think the main problem was as you have suggested.
tanitha, on 28 November 2010 - 04:24 AM, said: You didn't really get it to work. Cross isnt a "beta tester" and is
still a "member".
So use whatever new forum account you made in all that process. This account "cross" cant access most of the forums.
Archives\Beta\About to give up...Link on message: #287833
Cross, on 30 November 2010 - 02:16 AM, said: But I think the main problem was as you have suggested.Tanitha: Yeah, but still..
tanitha, on 28 November 2010 - 04:24 AM, said: You didn't really get it to work. Cross isnt a "beta tester" and is
still a "member".So use whatever new forum account you made in all that process. This account "cross" cant access most of the forums.
Tanitha: You need to use your beta tester forum account, Cross isn't one,
and cant access the forums.
Tanitha
invite code
13.12.2010 09:40:46
Tanitha
Where Is The Server Located?
13.12.2010 09:27:46
Subject: Archives\Beta\Where Is The Server Located?
Link on message: #287816
Archives\Beta\Where Is The Server Located?Link on message: #287816
Tanitha: Afaik..
The USA server is located in North Carolina.
The Russian server is located in Munich Germany.
The Europe server will also be located in Germany probably Munich but a different location in Munich.
The USA server is located in North Carolina.
The Russian server is located in Munich Germany.
The Europe server will also be located in Germany probably Munich but a different location in Munich.
Tanitha
Loltracktorz!
13.12.2010 08:17:47
Subject: Fan Zone\Tank Skins\Loltracktorz!
Link on message: #287725
Fan Zone\Tank Skins\Loltracktorz!Link on message: #287725
Tanitha: No skin? just photos? awww
Tanitha
Timeline for release
13.12.2010 07:51:46
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Timeline for release
Link on message: #287686
patoman, on 12 October 2010 - 03:10 AM, said: I like playing the game, though I would like to know when it comes
out of beta. Doesn't need to be a specific day but to the
month.
Anyone know about this, or when 15 man platoons or clan wars coming?
Archives\Junkyard\Timeline for releaseLink on message: #287686
patoman, on 12 October 2010 - 03:10 AM, said: I like playing the game, though I would like to know when it comes
out of beta. Doesn't need to be a specific day but to the
month.Anyone know about this, or when 15 man platoons or clan wars coming?
Tanitha: Cleaning up a old thread.
USA tank are already out.
Release is about 1st Q 2011 so about march 2011 one would guess.
15 man platoons are next patch.
Clan wars January
US/EU servers 20-24th December
Closing.
USA tank are already out.
Release is about 1st Q 2011 so about march 2011 one would guess.
15 man platoons are next patch.
Clan wars January
US/EU servers 20-24th December
Closing.
Tanitha
Any more invites to the beta?
13.12.2010 07:45:27
Tanitha
Quiting Till The American Tanks Are Fixed Or Removed
13.12.2010 07:22:32
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Quiting Till The American Tanks Are Fixed Or Removed
Link on message: #287651
moumoon, on 13 December 2010 - 07:08 AM, said: The armor bug isnt that big issue IMHO, since good ppl always use
manual aim, what makes the t29/32 seems very strong especially the
t29 is just the 105mm gun dmg + its ROF. It is amazingly crazy in
compare to its counterpart. So im not sure if ppl wont keep
complain even the armor bug removed.
Archives\Junkyard\Quiting Till The American Tanks Are Fixed Or RemovedLink on message: #287651
moumoon, on 13 December 2010 - 07:08 AM, said: The armor bug isnt that big issue IMHO, since good ppl always use
manual aim, what makes the t29/32 seems very strong especially the
t29 is just the 105mm gun dmg + its ROF. It is amazingly crazy in
compare to its counterpart. So im not sure if ppl wont keep
complain even the armor bug removed.Tanitha: I was in a slug out with a T32 yesterday at about 300meters in my
fully upgraded 100% crews, lots of equipment vk4502..
I manual aimed low on the front of the tank and bounced 4 times in a row. It was kind of disconcerting since i was using the maus gun.
In the end, after 0 damage done and 4 shots fired that cost about 5k. I ended up flicking to target the JagTiger, which I could hit nps.
A few things that could have effected things though, I was 300m away, so the distance would have lost some penetration from the shells.
It was far enough away that although I was aiming low, the target reticule was large enough that I didn't really know where the shells ended up hitting.
I manual aimed low on the front of the tank and bounced 4 times in a row. It was kind of disconcerting since i was using the maus gun.
In the end, after 0 damage done and 4 shots fired that cost about 5k. I ended up flicking to target the JagTiger, which I could hit nps.
A few things that could have effected things though, I was 300m away, so the distance would have lost some penetration from the shells.
It was far enough away that although I was aiming low, the target reticule was large enough that I didn't really know where the shells ended up hitting.
Tanitha
Frustration
13.12.2010 06:55:36
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Frustration
Link on message: #287635
Archives\Junkyard\FrustrationLink on message: #287635
Tanitha: Map bugs goto the tech section with screenshots.
Discussion on the closed beta goes to the closed beta sections.
http://forum.worldof...s-of-the-forum/
Closing this offtopic thread.
Discussion on the closed beta goes to the closed beta sections.
http://forum.worldof...s-of-the-forum/
Closing this offtopic thread.
ARGO
Maps
13.12.2010 02:31:35
Subject: Archives\Beta\Maps
Link on message: #287358
Raygorsmash, on 12 December 2010 - 08:21 PM, said: Hi I'm pretty new to this game hoping you veterans could help me
out. I wanted to know if anyone has bitmap images of the maps so
someone could highlight some of the ideal locations for different
tactics and ranged combat. Like ideal SPG locations and camping
locations for tank destroyers. I think this could help a lot of
newer players and also clans to prepare for different situations.
Thanks for the time.
Archives\Beta\MapsLink on message: #287358
Raygorsmash, on 12 December 2010 - 08:21 PM, said: Hi I'm pretty new to this game hoping you veterans could help me
out. I wanted to know if anyone has bitmap images of the maps so
someone could highlight some of the ideal locations for different
tactics and ranged combat. Like ideal SPG locations and camping
locations for tank destroyers. I think this could help a lot of
newer players and also clans to prepare for different situations.
Thanks for the time.ARGO: Simply right click on the pic after you copy it to your PC and use
the "open with" feature and open it with paint then rename it and
save.
ARGO
Unsportsmanlike
13.12.2010 01:45:51
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Unsportsmanlike
Link on message: #287303
Archives\Junkyard\UnsportsmanlikeLink on message: #287303
ARGO: This thread is herby locked and moved to the junkyard.....Argo66
ARGO
The Magic Vending Machine!
12.12.2010 20:51:58
Subject: Off-Topic Discussion\Off-Topic\The Magic Vending Machine!
Link on message: #286830
Off-Topic Discussion\Off-Topic\The Magic Vending Machine!Link on message: #286830
ARGO: You get arrested for possesion 5 years minimum
I put in Eliminateur
I put in Eliminateur
ARGO
Vk 3001 Vs 3601
12.12.2010 19:44:42
Subject: In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Medium Tanks\Vk 3001 Vs 3601
Link on message: #286725
In-Game Vehicles\German Vehicles\Medium Tanks\Vk 3001 Vs 3601Link on message: #286725
ARGO: I am going to move this topic to where it truly belongs, In the
German medium tanks section. Please read and follow forum rules on
thread placement before posting.
Argo66
POST MOVED TO GERMAN MEDIUM TANKS SECTION
Argo66
POST MOVED TO GERMAN MEDIUM TANKS SECTION
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