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OldFox
Запаролированный РУ-канал?
14.04.2012 17:03:06
Subject: 
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?
Link on message: #1772658
ApKaHuT, on 14 April 2012 - 03:42 PM, said: ... мб список неадекватов создать? так сказать, чтоб знали с кем
бесполезно общение...
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?Link on message: #1772658
ApKaHuT, on 14 April 2012 - 03:42 PM, said: ... мб список неадекватов создать? так сказать, чтоб знали с кем
бесполезно общение...OldFox: А вот этого не стоит делать - это нарушение Правил форума.
Да и подумай сам: вы создадите один список, кто-то второй, кто-то третий, поместите все три на форум и что начнется? Правильно, мега-срачег
Да и подумай сам: вы создадите один список, кто-то второй, кто-то третий, поместите все три на форум и что начнется? Правильно, мега-срачег
OldFox
Запаролированный РУ-канал?
14.04.2012 16:59:53
Subject: International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?
Link on message: #1772635
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?Link on message: #1772635
OldFox: Я выскажу чисто человеческую точку зрения: тот стиль общения,
который сейчас царит в РУ-канале, не может устраивать всех его
посетителей. Я вчера это наблюдал - один матерится, другой троллит,
третий рекламу клана спамит, а четвертый этим возмущается. А что
толку переругиваться с троллями, если это им только корм?
Человек, знающий свои права и умеющий их защищать, поступил бы так: сделал бы скрин с нарушениями правил пользования игровым чатом и накатал бы тикет в службу поддержки пользователей. Почему вы этого не делаете?
Выскажу несколько возможных причин:
1. Недостаточный уровень знания английского языка. Поэтому вы и Правил не читали, и написать тикет не можете.
2. Кто-то может написать, но принципиально против "стукачества" и жалоб, типа не "па-пасански" это. Разъясняю: если неадекват мешает вам, вы можете его убрать только с помощью жалобы - так построен суппорт практически всех MMO. И ничего зазорного в этом нет.
Я не модерирую игровой чат, но имею больше возможностей, чем обычный пользователь, как-то повлиять на ситуацию в нем. Поэтому я и предложил свою помощь: если вы не хотите или не можете написать жалобу в суппорт, можете обратиться ко мне. Я переведу жалобу и направлю её тем, кто заведует банхаммером. Но лучше обращаться к ним напрямую через сайт суппорта.
Человек, знающий свои права и умеющий их защищать, поступил бы так: сделал бы скрин с нарушениями правил пользования игровым чатом и накатал бы тикет в службу поддержки пользователей. Почему вы этого не делаете?
Выскажу несколько возможных причин:
1. Недостаточный уровень знания английского языка. Поэтому вы и Правил не читали, и написать тикет не можете.
2. Кто-то может написать, но принципиально против "стукачества" и жалоб, типа не "па-пасански" это. Разъясняю: если неадекват мешает вам, вы можете его убрать только с помощью жалобы - так построен суппорт практически всех MMO. И ничего зазорного в этом нет.
Я не модерирую игровой чат, но имею больше возможностей, чем обычный пользователь, как-то повлиять на ситуацию в нем. Поэтому я и предложил свою помощь: если вы не хотите или не можете написать жалобу в суппорт, можете обратиться ко мне. Я переведу жалобу и направлю её тем, кто заведует банхаммером. Но лучше обращаться к ним напрямую через сайт суппорта.
OldFox
Запаролированный РУ-канал?
14.04.2012 15:53:22
Subject: International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?
Link on message: #1772363
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?Link on message: #1772363
OldFox: Создание каналов с паролем возможно, поскольку не нарушает Правил
игры.
Обладатели пароля вольны распоряжаться им как заблагорассудится.
Даже в самом супер-пупер запароленом канале, в котором собираются только, допустим, почитатели чешского пива, продолжат действовать общие Правила. Это значит, что при поступлении жалоб на нарушения этих Правил, будет включена обычная процедура их рассмотрения.
Кстати, Чешипузик, тебя это касается в первую очередь: если бы Лемос вчера пожаловался на тебя за некоторые матерные высказывания в его адрес, ты бы сегодня был забанен. Как бы ты ни относился к кому угодно, такие высказывания недопустимы.
Обладатели пароля вольны распоряжаться им как заблагорассудится.
Даже в самом супер-пупер запароленом канале, в котором собираются только, допустим, почитатели чешского пива, продолжат действовать общие Правила. Это значит, что при поступлении жалоб на нарушения этих Правил, будет включена обычная процедура их рассмотрения.
Кстати, Чешипузик, тебя это касается в первую очередь: если бы Лемос вчера пожаловался на тебя за некоторые матерные высказывания в его адрес, ты бы сегодня был забанен. Как бы ты ни относился к кому угодно, такие высказывания недопустимы.
LiannaSilverwind
Запаролированный РУ-канал?
14.04.2012 15:30:33
Subject: International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?
Link on message: #1772252
4eshipuzik, on 14 April 2012 - 02:26 PM, said: Я за, но что бы можно иногда устроить срачеГ (маленький) 
), надеюсь в новом канале не будут
хер... пороть о статах и формулах.
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?Link on message: #1772252
4eshipuzik, on 14 April 2012 - 02:26 PM, said: Я за, но что бы можно иногда устроить срачеГ (маленький) ), надеюсь в новом канале не будут
хер... пороть о статах и формулах.LiannaSilverwind: Боги ВБР формулу не позволят. Они накажут три раза.
LiannaSilverwind
Запаролированный РУ-канал?
14.04.2012 15:20:58
Subject: International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?
Link on message: #1772195
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Запаролированный РУ-канал?Link on message: #1772195
LiannaSilverwind: В связи с обострением ситуации в классическом РУ-канале и введением
новых уникальных правил взаимопомощи в нем, предлагаю:
1) создать запаролированный РУ-канал, пароль от которого будет передаваться от Одеквата к Одеквату, из поколения в поколение, от Атца к Атцу
2) в момент разглашения будет следовать создание нового запаролированного РУ-канала, лютые боги ВБР дa покарают нарушителя
Хочется спокойного адекватного общения с людьми разных кланов, как в былые времена, когда мы были способны справляться со своими проблемами сами.
1) создать запаролированный РУ-канал, пароль от которого будет передаваться от Одеквата к Одеквату, из поколения в поколение, от Атца к Атцу
2) в момент разглашения будет следовать создание нового запаролированного РУ-канала, лютые боги ВБР дa покарают нарушителя
Хочется спокойного адекватного общения с людьми разных кланов, как в былые времена, когда мы были способны справляться со своими проблемами сами.
OldFox
Проблемы РУ-канала
14.04.2012 11:35:05
Subject: International Forums\Russian-language Community\Важная информация\Проблемы РУ-канала
Link on message: #1771119
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Важная информация\Проблемы РУ-каналаLink on message: #1771119
OldFox: Уважаемые пользователи!
В связи с серьезными проблемами коммуникации, существующими в RU-канале игрового чата, я как участник команды модераторов WG намерен предпринять некоторые шаги по нормализации ситуации.
Напоминаю, что любой канал, созданный кем-либо в игровом чате для общения на любом языке, является неотъемлемой частью игрового чата. Поэтому на него распространяются Правила, общие для всего чата.
Напомню их: http://forum.worldof...nks-game-rules/
Особенно прошу обратить внимание на пункт 2 настоящих Правил:
2. Prohibitions, restrictions and conditions of use, for all game chats and channels.
You agree not to do any of the following while using the Game or any Wargaming.net game chat or channels.
2.01. Excessive Profanity and Inappropriate language is not welcome. It is suggested to ensure that the censor filter is switched on. The censor filter is not an excuse to break the existing game and chat rules, and excessive profanity will still be moderated.
2.02. Typing in such a way to bypass the censor filter is prohibited.
2.03. Insults, personal attacks, abuse or harassment are not tolerated on any level.
2.04. Racist or nationalistic implications which may create offense to a certain nation, ethnic, religious or racial group are prohibited.
2.05. Allusion of racial or national supremacy, as well as discriminative propaganda on any level is prohibited.
2.06. Spamming or posting nonsensical messages is prohibited in the game and battle chats. This also includes excessive use of caps, as well as excessive posting of battle results.
2.07. Begging/Soliciting in any form is prohibited in all game chats and channels. Begging/Soliciting includes but is not limited to: requesting users to transfer real money to the virtual wallet, asking for additional credits, and requests to transfer game gold.
2.08. All types of ads for sale, exchange, or other options for the transfer of accounts from one user to another violate EULA and are prohibited in all game chats and channels.
2.09. Distribution of user’s personal information without their consent is prohibited.
2.10. Slandering users or posting false information about users in all game chats and channels is prohibited.
2.11. Attempting to extort information from users, including information necessary for the use of their account are prohibited.
2.12. Discussion on, or linking to illegal activities, such as illicit drugs, is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to the linking of, or discussion on, websites dedicated to vulgar, racist, abusive, illegal, or any other content prohibited by the EULA, or linking to the resources that contain such advertisement or content.
2.13. Discussion on, or linking to unreleased content, cheats, hacks, Trojan horses, or malicious programs is prohibited. If you suspect that a cheat or hack exists or have any other problems or concerns on these topics, provide the necessary information to technical support.
2.14. Discussion on, advertising of, or linking to websites, for the purpose of selling gold, credits, promotional codes, leveling services, or game accounts is prohibited.
2.15. Threats of destroying allied player vehicles as well as the threats of disclosure of ally positions to enemies, regardless of whether the threat was carried out, or not, are prohibited.
2.16 Any attempts to cheat or deliberately hinder the in-game event in any way.
2.17. Death threats and other threats of violence in real life, directed either against individual users, moderators or administration of the project, are prohibited.
2.18. All types of advertising messages are prohibited in general and battle chats. With the exception that WOT related advertising such as platoon forming, company recruiting, clan recruiting is permitted with the following restrictions. It may contain no more than three (3) lines on a standard chat window, and be posted no more than once every 15 minutes within the garage chats or once per game in battle
2.19. Mentioning and discussing of other games is permitted if the discussion is connected with the military-historical topic, but it should be discontinued if the character of the discussion turns into at a direct promotion of another gaming project.
2.20. Discussion of social, religious, political, illegal or other controversial topics that may create offense is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to negative portrayal of religious and political figures.
2.21. Explicit or implicit discussion of the administration and moderators in all game chats and channels is prohibited.
2.22. Any kind of provocations for other players to violate the EULA as well as additions to it is strictly prohibited.
2.23. Any statements and other actions that violate any applicable laws or regulations are strictly prohibited and will be strongly suppressed.
2.24. Any attempt to create nicknames, groups, or organized communities of players associated in any fashion with organizations which violate any applicable laws or regulations is prohibited. This includes but not limited to, direct or indirect references to Nazi symbols, abbreviations and well known leaders.
2.25. The use of copyrighted, trademarked, patented, classified, or restricted material or information and the violation of any rights of any party, including rights of privacy or publicity is prohibited.
Позволю себе кратко изложить основные положения данных Правил (естественно, это изложение не является официальной версией и не может её заменить, это просто попытка помочь пользователям разобраться):
В канале запрещены оскорбления игроков, модераторов чата или форума, представителей администрации.
Запрещено употребление нецензурной брани.
Запрещено преследование по национальному, половому или религиозному признакам.
Запрещено распространение частной информации о пользователе без его согласия, в том числе и обращение к пользователю по реальному имени, если он против этого.
Запрещено чрезмерное использование капса.
Запрещен троллинг, преследование, персональные нападки и прочее.
Таким образом, правила поведения в чате отличаются от правил поведения на форуме только одним - в чате нет понятия оффтоп. Остальные требования практически аналогичны.
В связи с тем безобразием, которое творится сейчас в RU-канале, я прошу всех игроков, пользующихся каналом, о следующем: если вы не хотите терпеть оскорбления, мат, троллинг и прочие нарушения, пожалуйста, делайте скриншоты нарушений и отправляйте их мне в приват на форуме или по электронной почте ij@wargaming.net с пометкой "Нарушения в РУ-канале".
Поскольку я не являюсь модератором игрового чата и в ближайшее время им не буду, я не имею доступа к админ-панели клиента. Поэтому наказание провинившихся займет какое-то время, но оно неизбежно последует.
Также я не имею возможности постоянно находится в РУ-канале, поэтому прошу принять во внимание: нет скриншота нарушения - нет и наказания. Естественно, с каждым случаем нарушения Правил игры команда модераторов WG будет разбираться индивидуально.
В связи с серьезными проблемами коммуникации, существующими в RU-канале игрового чата, я как участник команды модераторов WG намерен предпринять некоторые шаги по нормализации ситуации.
Напоминаю, что любой канал, созданный кем-либо в игровом чате для общения на любом языке, является неотъемлемой частью игрового чата. Поэтому на него распространяются Правила, общие для всего чата.
Напомню их: http://forum.worldof...nks-game-rules/
Особенно прошу обратить внимание на пункт 2 настоящих Правил:
2. Prohibitions, restrictions and conditions of use, for all game chats and channels.
You agree not to do any of the following while using the Game or any Wargaming.net game chat or channels.
2.01. Excessive Profanity and Inappropriate language is not welcome. It is suggested to ensure that the censor filter is switched on. The censor filter is not an excuse to break the existing game and chat rules, and excessive profanity will still be moderated.
2.02. Typing in such a way to bypass the censor filter is prohibited.
2.03. Insults, personal attacks, abuse or harassment are not tolerated on any level.
2.04. Racist or nationalistic implications which may create offense to a certain nation, ethnic, religious or racial group are prohibited.
2.05. Allusion of racial or national supremacy, as well as discriminative propaganda on any level is prohibited.
2.06. Spamming or posting nonsensical messages is prohibited in the game and battle chats. This also includes excessive use of caps, as well as excessive posting of battle results.
2.07. Begging/Soliciting in any form is prohibited in all game chats and channels. Begging/Soliciting includes but is not limited to: requesting users to transfer real money to the virtual wallet, asking for additional credits, and requests to transfer game gold.
2.08. All types of ads for sale, exchange, or other options for the transfer of accounts from one user to another violate EULA and are prohibited in all game chats and channels.
2.09. Distribution of user’s personal information without their consent is prohibited.
2.10. Slandering users or posting false information about users in all game chats and channels is prohibited.
2.11. Attempting to extort information from users, including information necessary for the use of their account are prohibited.
2.12. Discussion on, or linking to illegal activities, such as illicit drugs, is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to the linking of, or discussion on, websites dedicated to vulgar, racist, abusive, illegal, or any other content prohibited by the EULA, or linking to the resources that contain such advertisement or content.
2.13. Discussion on, or linking to unreleased content, cheats, hacks, Trojan horses, or malicious programs is prohibited. If you suspect that a cheat or hack exists or have any other problems or concerns on these topics, provide the necessary information to technical support.
2.14. Discussion on, advertising of, or linking to websites, for the purpose of selling gold, credits, promotional codes, leveling services, or game accounts is prohibited.
2.15. Threats of destroying allied player vehicles as well as the threats of disclosure of ally positions to enemies, regardless of whether the threat was carried out, or not, are prohibited.
2.16 Any attempts to cheat or deliberately hinder the in-game event in any way.
2.17. Death threats and other threats of violence in real life, directed either against individual users, moderators or administration of the project, are prohibited.
2.18. All types of advertising messages are prohibited in general and battle chats. With the exception that WOT related advertising such as platoon forming, company recruiting, clan recruiting is permitted with the following restrictions. It may contain no more than three (3) lines on a standard chat window, and be posted no more than once every 15 minutes within the garage chats or once per game in battle
2.19. Mentioning and discussing of other games is permitted if the discussion is connected with the military-historical topic, but it should be discontinued if the character of the discussion turns into at a direct promotion of another gaming project.
2.20. Discussion of social, religious, political, illegal or other controversial topics that may create offense is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to negative portrayal of religious and political figures.
2.21. Explicit or implicit discussion of the administration and moderators in all game chats and channels is prohibited.
2.22. Any kind of provocations for other players to violate the EULA as well as additions to it is strictly prohibited.
2.23. Any statements and other actions that violate any applicable laws or regulations are strictly prohibited and will be strongly suppressed.
2.24. Any attempt to create nicknames, groups, or organized communities of players associated in any fashion with organizations which violate any applicable laws or regulations is prohibited. This includes but not limited to, direct or indirect references to Nazi symbols, abbreviations and well known leaders.
2.25. The use of copyrighted, trademarked, patented, classified, or restricted material or information and the violation of any rights of any party, including rights of privacy or publicity is prohibited.
Позволю себе кратко изложить основные положения данных Правил (естественно, это изложение не является официальной версией и не может её заменить, это просто попытка помочь пользователям разобраться):
В канале запрещены оскорбления игроков, модераторов чата или форума, представителей администрации.
Запрещено употребление нецензурной брани.
Запрещено преследование по национальному, половому или религиозному признакам.
Запрещено распространение частной информации о пользователе без его согласия, в том числе и обращение к пользователю по реальному имени, если он против этого.
Запрещено чрезмерное использование капса.
Запрещен троллинг, преследование, персональные нападки и прочее.
Таким образом, правила поведения в чате отличаются от правил поведения на форуме только одним - в чате нет понятия оффтоп. Остальные требования практически аналогичны.
В связи с тем безобразием, которое творится сейчас в RU-канале, я прошу всех игроков, пользующихся каналом, о следующем: если вы не хотите терпеть оскорбления, мат, троллинг и прочие нарушения, пожалуйста, делайте скриншоты нарушений и отправляйте их мне в приват на форуме или по электронной почте ij@wargaming.net с пометкой "Нарушения в РУ-канале".
Поскольку я не являюсь модератором игрового чата и в ближайшее время им не буду, я не имею доступа к админ-панели клиента. Поэтому наказание провинившихся займет какое-то время, но оно неизбежно последует.
Также я не имею возможности постоянно находится в РУ-канале, поэтому прошу принять во внимание: нет скриншота нарушения - нет и наказания. Естественно, с каждым случаем нарушения Правил игры команда модераторов WG будет разбираться индивидуально.
OldFox
Какой конкурс провести?
13.04.2012 23:45:32
Subject: International Forums\Russian-language Community\Турниры и конкурсы\Викторины и конкурсы\Какой конкурс провести?
Link on message: #1769661
ApKaHuT, on 13 April 2012 - 02:25 PM, said: Чего там, как там? конкурсы в конце месяца также?
International Forums\Russian-language Community\Турниры и конкурсы\Викторины и конкурсы\Какой конкурс провести?Link on message: #1769661
ApKaHuT, on 13 April 2012 - 02:25 PM, said: Чего там, как там? конкурсы в конце месяца также?OldFox: Запросил 30000 голды на призы, жду ответа. Быстро не получилось,
потому что вся верхушка парижского офиса на этой неделе была в
Минске. Что решали, не знаю, но явно было им не до нас.
Overlord
EU Questions & Answers
13.04.2012 23:43:29
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Szalona, on 13 April 2012 - 10:30 PM, said: OL: I know I am really boring with this - but pls let me know what
is status of WoB? When can we expect alfa? Can you please make
sure, I get access (I really love it and didnt get WoWp alfa:()?
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Szalona, on 13 April 2012 - 10:30 PM, said: OL: I know I am really boring with this - but pls let me know what
is status of WoB? When can we expect alfa? Can you please make
sure, I get access (I really love it and didnt get WoWp alfa:()?Overlord: If everything goes smooth we can even expect alpha this year,
however cant be certain about it.
In WoWP closed beta we are going to invite more players and the current applications will be still valid for it.
In WoWP closed beta we are going to invite more players and the current applications will be still valid for it.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:40:36
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Mis1, on 13 April 2012 - 09:52 PM, said: hi
how is it going about works with new game modes?
thanks in advance
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Mis1, on 13 April 2012 - 09:52 PM, said: hihow is it going about works with new game modes?
thanks in advance
Overlord: 2 of them are almost ready and being polished now.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:39:32
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Kleist_, on 13 April 2012 - 09:05 PM, said: Can we know when this will happen?
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Kleist_, on 13 April 2012 - 09:05 PM, said: Can we know when this will happen?Overlord: Sure thing. In due time so as not to repeat the revision
announcement made in April of 2011.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:35:50
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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afoaa, on 13 April 2012 - 08:45 AM, said: Both new maps does not offer realistic useable ways to use
maneuvers to win, they are both slugging maps. Like Komarin you
move into a position early in a battle and the for the rest of the
fight its a question of which side are able to be bored the most,
they will win.
There are no ways to flank the enemy team or do a quick push in any area so the maps just become boring slugfests.
Province is by far the worst, the chat channels always get filled with hate messages to the map every time you are put there. The US map you can see that there were an intention to use the low water areas for maneuvers but they are too open to be used effectively, the enemy team can just camp and prevent any movement there.
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afoaa, on 13 April 2012 - 08:45 AM, said: Both new maps does not offer realistic useable ways to use
maneuvers to win, they are both slugging maps. Like Komarin you
move into a position early in a battle and the for the rest of the
fight its a question of which side are able to be bored the most,
they will win.There are no ways to flank the enemy team or do a quick push in any area so the maps just become boring slugfests.
Province is by far the worst, the chat channels always get filled with hate messages to the map every time you are put there. The US map you can see that there were an intention to use the low water areas for maneuvers but they are too open to be used effectively, the enemy team can just camp and prevent any movement there.
Overlord: Thinking of removing or changing the Province map.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:34:45
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Nixouf, on 13 April 2012 - 01:21 AM, said: Overlord thanks for taking the time to answer.
Can we get an estimate date for the alternative french lines? (AMR, AMC, AMX 65t etc)
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Nixouf, on 13 April 2012 - 01:21 AM, said: Overlord thanks for taking the time to answer.Can we get an estimate date for the alternative french lines? (AMR, AMC, AMX 65t etc)
Overlord: Frankly speaking, not soon. Our hands are full with new tanks up to
the year of 2013.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:33:13
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Pernumbra, on 12 April 2012 - 08:11 PM, said: Alternative question;
Q. Has the increase in penetrating but '0' damage hits been introduced to encourage/justify people to train the Eagle Eye perk?
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Pernumbra, on 12 April 2012 - 08:11 PM, said: Alternative question;Q. Has the increase in penetrating but '0' damage hits been introduced to encourage/justify people to train the Eagle Eye perk?
Overlord: Replied just above.
There might be some strong desire to make up conspiracy theories, bur sometimes things are just much easier.
There might be some strong desire to make up conspiracy theories, bur sometimes things are just much easier.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:31:29
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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ZabojczyKartofel, on 12 April 2012 - 08:04 PM, said: More than 100.000 players on EU server - maybe some gift from that
occasion? 
(ye, ye, I'm greedy, but WG is
greedy too. Evil and greedy) 
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ZabojczyKartofel, on 12 April 2012 - 08:04 PM, said: More than 100.000 players on EU server - maybe some gift from that
occasion? (ye, ye, I'm greedy, but WG is
greedy too. Evil and greedy) Overlord: Had 105k on EU side yesterday, 28k on US, 452k on RU.
3 records at once. Thanks everyone.
3 records at once. Thanks everyone.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:30:14
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Sharpasaspoon, on 12 April 2012 - 07:51 PM, said: This may have been covered......
Q - Since the 7.2 patch the number of penetrating but '0' damage hits has increased become frustrating. This makes the game much less enjoyable. Is this to be addressed?
(Please don't tell me 'working as intended', the intention would therefore be flawed).
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Sharpasaspoon, on 12 April 2012 - 07:51 PM, said: This may have been covered......Q - Since the 7.2 patch the number of penetrating but '0' damage hits has increased become frustrating. This makes the game much less enjoyable. Is this to be addressed?
(Please don't tell me 'working as intended', the intention would therefore be flawed).
Overlord: How do you actually measure them? Is there some recorded statistics
for that? Cause we dont have any evidence of this happening.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:18:55
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Cidtheslayer, on 12 April 2012 - 05:34 PM, said: Q: Is it working as intended if with the sixth sense perk you don't
get the lightbulb straight after you are spotted?
With the perk I can be spotted and shot (not counter arty) before the lightbulb comes on. E.g. AMX comes over the hill, turns the turret to me and shoots. Shell hits and lightbulb comes on.
Is this just due to latency or is it only a 'chance' to display the lightbulb?
EDIT - Never mind - it seems this is working as intended with a 3 second delay. Not as useful to arty as I thought.
- incidently a sound would be nice as well as the lightbulb.
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Cidtheslayer, on 12 April 2012 - 05:34 PM, said: Q: Is it working as intended if with the sixth sense perk you don't
get the lightbulb straight after you are spotted?With the perk I can be spotted and shot (not counter arty) before the lightbulb comes on. E.g. AMX comes over the hill, turns the turret to me and shoots. Shell hits and lightbulb comes on.
Is this just due to latency or is it only a 'chance' to display the lightbulb?
EDIT - Never mind - it seems this is working as intended with a 3 second delay. Not as useful to arty as I thought.
- incidently a sound would be nice as well as the lightbulb.
Overlord: Yes, the delay is intentional. Thinking of the sound notification
btw.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:17:56
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Draconic, on 12 April 2012 - 05:32 PM, said: Hello, Overlord.
I don't know if that was proposed before, but have you ever considered to add premium tanks for a rent? Example: Lowe or Type.59 for 1500 gold/month?
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Draconic, on 12 April 2012 - 05:32 PM, said: Hello, Overlord.I don't know if that was proposed before, but have you ever considered to add premium tanks for a rent? Example: Lowe or Type.59 for 1500 gold/month?
Overlord: We were considering a feature of making a particular tank premium
in game, eg M26. For some time or permanently. Currently it is
still open.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:16:06
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Magitech, on 12 April 2012 - 04:48 PM, said: Hi Overlord
Q: When all nations and tanks T9/10 get 260mm+ pen will you give german tank drivers Gold ammo for free?
Serious question.
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Magitech, on 12 April 2012 - 04:48 PM, said: Hi OverlordQ: When all nations and tanks T9/10 get 260mm+ pen will you give german tank drivers Gold ammo for free?
Serious question.
Overlord: Will give them Leopard.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:10:00
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Pernumbra, on 12 April 2012 - 03:12 PM, said: Congratulations on updating the Soviet tech tree.
Q. Will the premium IS-6/Object 252 be included as it does not appear on the above?
Q. If yes, when? I thought it was due in patch 0.7.3 with the other Soviet heavy changes.
Q. Will you be including all tanks on the various tech trees (to make them really "Full" tech trees)?
Tetrarch and M3 Stuart are also missing from Soviet Tech tree too. There are also two types of KV-220 I believe?
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Pernumbra, on 12 April 2012 - 03:12 PM, said: Congratulations on updating the Soviet tech tree. Q. Will the premium IS-6/Object 252 be included as it does not appear on the above?
Q. If yes, when? I thought it was due in patch 0.7.3 with the other Soviet heavy changes.
Q. Will you be including all tanks on the various tech trees (to make them really "Full" tech trees)?
Tetrarch and M3 Stuart are also missing from Soviet Tech tree too. There are also two types of KV-220 I believe?
Overlord: 1-2. It will be added as well, however only in testing mode for
supertesters in 7.3. The same procedure as for premium French spg.
The tank will be publicly available in a later update, once its
nicely balanced.
3. Yes. However I cant really say at what stage the trees are going to be 100% full. We have got lots of new ideas.
3. Yes. However I cant really say at what stage the trees are going to be 100% full. We have got lots of new ideas.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:04:55
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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CosMoe, on 12 April 2012 - 03:01 PM, said: Hello Overlord,
this might sound like a conspiracy question, but please help me get one thing clear:
Is the matchmaking purely random (within your tank's tier spread), or does it also take into account something personal of the player in the tank (e.g. premium account, (recent) winrate, profitability of the player, etc.)?
A clear answer to that will help a lot to clear up any forum threads that suspect something fishy, I'll also state it whenever I come across someone who posts otherwise.
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CosMoe, on 12 April 2012 - 03:01 PM, said: Hello Overlord,this might sound like a conspiracy question, but please help me get one thing clear:
Is the matchmaking purely random (within your tank's tier spread), or does it also take into account something personal of the player in the tank (e.g. premium account, (recent) winrate, profitability of the player, etc.)?
A clear answer to that will help a lot to clear up any forum threads that suspect something fishy, I'll also state it whenever I come across someone who posts otherwise.
Overlord: At this stage it's almost random and dependa only on the exact tier
structure of the waiting queue. So theoretically you can be thrown
in battle of the highest combat tier possible for your tank all the
time.
The new MM mechanics will do both:
1) ensure approx equal distribution among its battle tiers
2) automatically interrupt bad series of being thrown into the toughest battles X times in a row
The new MM mechanics will do both:
1) ensure approx equal distribution among its battle tiers
2) automatically interrupt bad series of being thrown into the toughest battles X times in a row
Overlord
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13.04.2012 23:00:23
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Jamezdin, on 12 April 2012 - 02:38 PM, said: What is the status of extra game modes? Garage Battle, CTF, Last
man standing etc. etc.
Are these just carrots to hang in front of experienced players so they dont quit the game?
These should be the true priorites, although I realise that adding a new tank is much easier than adding a new game mode.
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Jamezdin, on 12 April 2012 - 02:38 PM, said: What is the status of extra game modes? Garage Battle, CTF, Last
man standing etc. etc.Are these just carrots to hang in front of experienced players so they dont quit the game?
These should be the true priorites, although I realise that adding a new tank is much easier than adding a new game mode.
Overlord: 2 new game modes are scheduled for 7.x series, historical and
garage battles will come next after them. So at least 4 new game
modes in the foreseeable future.
While attack/defence and counter battle are going to be played within random, the other two modes are going to be 100% separated and might serve (at leat one of them) as a transition mode from company battles to end-game content - Clan Wars.
While attack/defence and counter battle are going to be played within random, the other two modes are going to be 100% separated and might serve (at leat one of them) as a transition mode from company battles to end-game content - Clan Wars.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 22:56:05
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Celestial, on 12 April 2012 - 02:19 PM, said: Overlord:
Is this serious/final? The S-70 already is OP for tier IX, and you give this in return? That gun in combination with insane armor is just too much and not fixing stuff at all.
The penetration of the T34 at tier 8 already is too much, the M103 top gun is on the edge, and then the russians get an even better gun? There is a reason the Maus and E-100 don't get a gun that can penetrate anything with ease AND insane armor, because that would be OP.
Could you please clarify a bit?
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Celestial, on 12 April 2012 - 02:19 PM, said: Overlord:Is this serious/final? The S-70 already is OP for tier IX, and you give this in return? That gun in combination with insane armor is just too much and not fixing stuff at all.
The penetration of the T34 at tier 8 already is too much, the M103 top gun is on the edge, and then the russians get an even better gun? There is a reason the Maus and E-100 don't get a gun that can penetrate anything with ease AND insane armor, because that would be OP.
Could you please clarify a bit?
Overlord: The specs do look scary indeed and they are not final yet and will
undergo some tweaking prior to release.
However I have to admit that M62-T2 gun was insanely powerful one with penetration of ~270mm at 1.000m distance.
However I have to admit that M62-T2 gun was insanely powerful one with penetration of ~270mm at 1.000m distance.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 22:52:29
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power4, on 12 April 2012 - 02:00 PM, said: Q: we will see more crew voices-languages adding ingame ?
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power4, on 12 April 2012 - 02:00 PM, said: Q: we will see more crew voices-languages adding ingame ?Overlord: Yes, it's planned.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 22:51:15
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Xivilai, on 12 April 2012 - 10:17 AM, said: Mr. Overlord.
A question if I may.
Q: Will you fulfill your statement in early development of E-100 that it will be tier X tank with 2 re-searchable turrets and guns ?
I ask because current turret (Krupp) is crap, this would not be a problem if a player can research either Henschell or Maus turret in order to research and finally mount either 128mm L61/66 or 150mm L38 main guns.
Thank you for your answer.
And Mr. Overlord, Happy B day to you, WoT and your team.
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Xivilai, on 12 April 2012 - 10:17 AM, said: Mr. Overlord.A question if I may.
Q: Will you fulfill your statement in early development of E-100 that it will be tier X tank with 2 re-searchable turrets and guns ?
I ask because current turret (Krupp) is crap, this would not be a problem if a player can research either Henschell or Maus turret in order to research and finally mount either 128mm L61/66 or 150mm L38 main guns.
Thank you for your answer.
And Mr. Overlord, Happy B day to you, WoT and your team.
Overlord: This idea was dropped during the public test, if my memory serves
me right. Which actually appeared to be not a bad move, since E100
had a truly good start. Its performance got somewhat worse after he
changes, however the slump was not dramatic. After 7.2 we expect a
slight increase again.
Thanks for being with us the entire year!
Thanks for being with us the entire year!
Overlord
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13.04.2012 22:45:30
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
Link on message: #1769360
DeverX, on 11 April 2012 - 11:11 PM, said: Hi Ovi...
Is there any reason why we dont get this Tanks (WZ-111 / Type 62) on the other Servers???
Are there Tanks on our Servers that are not available on Chinese Server???
It seems, to use a German saying, you make an extra sausage for the Chinese People... but why???
Thx for Answer...
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DeverX, on 11 April 2012 - 11:11 PM, said: Hi Ovi...Is there any reason why we dont get this Tanks (WZ-111 / Type 62) on the other Servers???
Are there Tanks on our Servers that are not available on Chinese Server???
It seems, to use a German saying, you make an extra sausage for the Chinese People... but why???
Thx for Answer...
Overlord: I think, its pretty obvious that Chinese machinery is popular on
Chinese side. We need to be careful with adding such vehicles on
other servers. T59 has been an extremely cotroversial experience
for us, not being OP stat-wise it did cause mostly negative
reaction everywhere.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 22:41:15
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Iluvatar94, on 11 April 2012 - 08:46 PM, said: Hi Overlord,
Will Pzkpfw38H735(f) be again avaliable to buy in game shop?
If yes, when?
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Iluvatar94, on 11 April 2012 - 08:46 PM, said: Hi Overlord,Will Pzkpfw38H735(f) be again avaliable to buy in game shop?
If yes, when?
Overlord: Currently there is no intention to bring it back to the store.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 22:40:15
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
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Tupinambis, on 11 April 2012 - 05:29 PM, said: Hey OL, sorry for asking about this again, but is the Souvenir shop
going to be open to US and EU players some time in the near
future?
I would love to get myself a WoT mug.
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Tupinambis, on 11 April 2012 - 05:29 PM, said: Hey OL, sorry for asking about this again, but is the Souvenir shop
going to be open to US and EU players some time in the near
future?I would love to get myself a WoT mug.
Overlord: It actually goes somewhat beyond my field. I think we can expect
similar kind of shop available worldwide at a later stage.
Overlord
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13.04.2012 22:38:47
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zmeul, on 11 April 2012 - 05:09 PM, said: will you (WG) consider modifying the x2 (x3 or x5) bonus works?
as in letting the player choose the battle in the 24H period he will see fit to apply to bonus to; not as in now, the 1st victory of the day
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zmeul, on 11 April 2012 - 05:09 PM, said: will you (WG) consider modifying the x2 (x3 or x5) bonus works?as in letting the player choose the battle in the 24H period he will see fit to apply to bonus to; not as in now, the 1st victory of the day
Overlord: No, at this stage it's not in plans.
Decept1on
Journal Hebdomadaire #22
13.04.2012 21:29:43
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Decept1on: merci beaucoup pour l’accueil ! ça fait plaisir
! 
profitez bien de l'évènement des 1 an de WoT
profitez bien de l'évènement des 1 an de WoT
Decept1on
Journal Hebdomadaire #21
13.04.2012 20:32:10
Decept1on
Journal Hebdomadaire #22
13.04.2012 20:31:19
Subject: Journal Hebdomadaire #22
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Decept1on: http://img687.images...637/diversq.png
Quizz
http://img815.images.../3549/tankl.jpg
Quel est le nom de ce char ?
Les 3 premiers à répondre correctement recevront 1500 gold et les 3 suivants 750 golds, alors dépêchez vous !
Répondre à cette adresse : euprizesfr@worldoftanks.eu
Doit comprendre pseudo ingame, et la réponse (plus ou moins élaborée selon la question)
Règles: Un seul mail est autorisé, donc réfléchissez avant d'envoyer, je ne cours pas après les gens s'ils n'ont pas mis les informations nécessaires dans le mail, les gagnants de la semaine passée ne peuvent pas répondre à la question de cette semaine.
Bonne chance !
Quizz
http://img815.images.../3549/tankl.jpg
Quel est le nom de ce char ?
Les 3 premiers à répondre correctement recevront 1500 gold et les 3 suivants 750 golds, alors dépêchez vous !
Répondre à cette adresse : euprizesfr@worldoftanks.eu
Doit comprendre pseudo ingame, et la réponse (plus ou moins élaborée selon la question)
Règles: Un seul mail est autorisé, donc réfléchissez avant d'envoyer, je ne cours pas après les gens s'ils n'ont pas mis les informations nécessaires dans le mail, les gagnants de la semaine passée ne peuvent pas répondre à la question de cette semaine.
Bonne chance !
Decept1on
Journal Hebdomadaire #22
13.04.2012 20:25:57
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Decept1on: http://img685.images...delasemaine.png
Comparaison canon IS-4 (7.3), source: http://wotbase.ru/ar...62-т2-2а17.html
WG TV 16 (en russe)
http://www.youtube.c...d&v=Uujfhcx1d5c
Comparaison canon IS-4 (7.3), source: http://wotbase.ru/ar...62-т2-2а17.html
WG TV 16 (en russe)
http://www.youtube.c...d&v=Uujfhcx1d5c
Decept1on
Journal Hebdomadaire #22
13.04.2012 20:18:28
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Decept1on: http://img194.images...ellesenvrac.png
Offre spéciale d’anniversaire !
Je vous souhaite un bon anniversaire et que vous profitiez bien de l'évènement de la part de toute l'équipe française : Blanchard, Mr_Kubrick, Tyrian, et votre serviteur ^^
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Offre spéciale d’anniversaire !
Je vous souhaite un bon anniversaire et que vous profitiez bien de l'évènement de la part de toute l'équipe française : Blanchard, Mr_Kubrick, Tyrian, et votre serviteur ^^
Notre 1e anniversaire en chiffres
Concours d'anniversaire : de superbes lots à gagner !
Code bonus d’anniversaire
LiannaSilverwind
Ассоциации
13.04.2012 15:27:01
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LiannaSilverwind: Кровь
LiannaSilverwind
Тема, в которой Ник Лемос сравнивает...
13.04.2012 15:26:01
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LiannaSilverwind: Добро пожаловать в Тему.
OldFox
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13.04.2012 09:22:19
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OldFox: паленая кошка
Decept1on
Journal Hebdomadaire #22
13.04.2012 08:45:22
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Quote Bonjour à tous,
Le but du journal est de donner les dernières nouvelles du front ! Les prochains évènements à venir, des informations sur les problèmes actuels et articles intéressants.
Si vous pensez avoir une histoire ou un article qui pourrait être intégré, envoyez-le-moi en MP sur le forum.
Profitez bien du jeu et balayez tout sur votre passage avec votre tank ! Vous pouvez toujours essayer de me détruire si vous me voyez sur le champ de bataille.
Toutefois je ne me laisserai pas faire facilement.
Staff : Decept1on, Mr_Kubrick
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Quote Bonjour à tous,
Le but du journal est de donner les dernières nouvelles du front ! Les prochains évènements à venir, des informations sur les problèmes actuels et articles intéressants.
Si vous pensez avoir une histoire ou un article qui pourrait être intégré, envoyez-le-moi en MP sur le forum.
Profitez bien du jeu et balayez tout sur votre passage avec votre tank ! Vous pouvez toujours essayer de me détruire si vous me voyez sur le champ de bataille.
Toutefois je ne me laisserai pas faire facilement.
Staff : Decept1on, Mr_Kubrick
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Q: La 7.3 est prévue pou la fin avril. Que peut on attendre de la 7.4 ?
R: Les TDs et Artys françaises, deux cartes, dont une en ville (Munich), et quelques nouveautés. Plus de détails seront fournis après la 7.3.
Q: Quel est le statut du Jagdpanzer E-100 (Krokodil) ?
R: Il est probable qu'il arrive après la mise-à-jour 7.4.
Q: A propos du moteur physique, aurons-nous une sorte d'animation de la suspension ?
R: Oui, c'est prévu, toute fois cela se fera après l'implémentation initiale du moteur physique.
Q: Allez vous augmenter la profitabilité du M103?
R: Pour l'instant, nous n'avons encore décidé d'aucun changement de balance pour la 7.3.
Q: Avec les nouvelles compétences, comptez vous changer le nombre d'expérience requis pour une compétence ?
R: Cela est en considération.
Q: La 7.3 est prévue pou la fin avril. Que peut on attendre de la 7.4 ?
R: Les TDs et Artys françaises, deux cartes, dont une en ville (Munich), et quelques nouveautés. Plus de détails seront fournis après la 7.3.
Q: Quel est le statut du Jagdpanzer E-100 (Krokodil) ?
R: Il est probable qu'il arrive après la mise-à-jour 7.4.
Q: A propos du moteur physique, aurons-nous une sorte d'animation de la suspension ?
R: Oui, c'est prévu, toute fois cela se fera après l'implémentation initiale du moteur physique.
Q: Allez vous augmenter la profitabilité du M103?
R: Pour l'instant, nous n'avons encore décidé d'aucun changement de balance pour la 7.3.
Q: Avec les nouvelles compétences, comptez vous changer le nombre d'expérience requis pour une compétence ?
R: Cela est en considération.
eekeeboo
Anniversary Special!
12.04.2012 15:09:28
Subject: Anniversary Special!
Link on message: #1760726
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eekeeboo: Sorry if it's already posted but I thought I'd bring up that the
cost of premium account for 1 month has not had the discount
applied yet 
OldFox
Ассоциации
12.04.2012 05:22:09
Subject: International Forums\Russian-language Community\Спам-уголок\Ассоциации
Link on message: #1758513
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OldFox: куриная лепота...
OldFox
Zelta iegādes iespēja Rīgā.
12.04.2012 05:19:54
Subject: International Forums\Baltic Forums\Latviešu\Tehniskā palīdzība\Zelta iegādes iespēja Rīgā.
Link on message: #1758509
International Forums\Baltic Forums\Latviešu\Tehniskā palīdzība\Zelta iegādes iespēja Rīgā.Link on message: #1758509
OldFox: Letakais un ertakais veids ir tomer pirkt ar WebMoney palidzibu.
Vajag: a) atvert kontu Norvik banka, b ) izveidot WebMoney macinu,
c) apmeklet https://www.nettransfer.eu/ No sava konta Norvik banka
Jums bus iespeja praktisi nekavejoties papildinat savu WebMoney
macinu automatiskaja rezima, bet maksajums no vina uz WG ari notiek
praktiski momentali.
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