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MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 21:50:42
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #7
Link on message: #354653
Echo_Sniper, on Jan 09 2011 - 17:31, said: MrVic, can you fix that typo in the help wanted part?
The one saying''we are currently looking for members to RIGHT...'' I taught it was write...
Link on message: #354653
Echo_Sniper, on Jan 09 2011 - 17:31, said: MrVic, can you fix that typo in the help wanted part?The one saying''we are currently looking for members to RIGHT...'' I taught it was write...
MrVic:
lol fixing pretty good fail there
Thanks
lol fixing pretty good fail there
ThanksMrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 21:50:42
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #7
Link on message: #354653
Echo_Sniper, on Jan 09 2011 - 17:31, said: MrVic, can you fix that typo in the help wanted part?
The one saying''we are currently looking for members to RIGHT...'' I taught it was write...
Link on message: #354653
Echo_Sniper, on Jan 09 2011 - 17:31, said: MrVic, can you fix that typo in the help wanted part?The one saying''we are currently looking for members to RIGHT...'' I taught it was write...
MrVic:
lol fixing pretty good fail there Thanks
lol fixing pretty good fail there
ThanksMrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 21:49:56
Subject: 
News from the Front\World of Tanks Newsletter\WoT Newsletter Volume #7
Link on message: #354651
dr_fruitloop, on 09 January 2011 - 02:20 PM, said: So hows the Sturm Tiger going to work? As it could only carry 14
rounds (1 in barrel), and was really designed for city fighting.
News from the Front\World of Tanks Newsletter\WoT Newsletter Volume #7Link on message: #354651
dr_fruitloop, on 09 January 2011 - 02:20 PM, said: So hows the Sturm Tiger going to work? As it could only carry 14
rounds (1 in barrel), and was really designed for city fighting.
MrVic: haha really curious myself, tho you have that slight wrong. It was
not designed for city fights. I was to designed to fight cities!
(but you are right also lol) I think it will be good massively
random accuracy bombing and should be fun.
MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 21:49:56
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #7
Link on message: #354651
dr_fruitloop, on Jan 09 2011 - 13:20, said: So hows the Sturm Tiger going to work? As it could only carry 14
rounds (1 in barrel), and was really designed for city fighting.
Link on message: #354651
dr_fruitloop, on Jan 09 2011 - 13:20, said: So hows the Sturm Tiger going to work? As it could only carry 14
rounds (1 in barrel), and was really designed for city fighting.
MrVic:
haha really curious myself, tho you have that slight wrong. It was not designed for city fights. I was to designed to fight cities! (but you are right also lol) I think it will be good massively random accuracy bombing and should be fun.
haha really curious myself, tho you have that slight wrong. It was not designed for city fights. I was to designed to fight cities! (but you are right also lol) I think it will be good massively random accuracy bombing and should be fun.
MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 21:49:56
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #7
Link on message: #354651
dr_fruitloop, on Jan 09 2011 - 13:20, said: So hows the Sturm Tiger going to work? As it could only carry 14
rounds (1 in barrel), and was really designed for city fighting.
Link on message: #354651
dr_fruitloop, on Jan 09 2011 - 13:20, said: So hows the Sturm Tiger going to work? As it could only carry 14
rounds (1 in barrel), and was really designed for city fighting.
MrVic:
haha really curious myself, tho you have that slight wrong. It was not designed for city fights. I was to designed to fight cities! (but you are right also lol) I think it will be good massively random accuracy bombing and should be fun.
haha really curious myself, tho you have that slight wrong. It was not designed for city fights. I was to designed to fight cities! (but you are right also lol) I think it will be good massively random accuracy bombing and should be fun.
MrVic
MrVic's Wall O Text
09.01.2011 21:38:24
Subject: Archives\Beta\MrVic's Wall O Text
Link on message: #354614
theta0123, on 09 January 2011 - 09:35 PM, said: indeed
If you go check the Medium tanks at tier 6 and 7, you see that the german mediums are far better then the Russian and american ones. Having better armor, sloping at armor, slightly better guns suited for mediums and more health, while only having slighlty less speed and acceleration then the Russian/american ones. I tried them all out, so i know what i am talking about.
More examples are the tiers 4-5 SPG's. The grille is like the SU 14 at those tiers, while the hummel has the best accurate gun (with M41) and least aiming time of the 3. While having completly better speed, mobility, acceleration and ammo amount then the other tier 5 SPG's.
Yet do you see ANYONE saying that those vehicles are overpowerd?
Balance problems in WOT exist, but there are minor and only to a few vehicles per faction.
Archives\Beta\MrVic's Wall O TextLink on message: #354614
theta0123, on 09 January 2011 - 09:35 PM, said: indeedIf you go check the Medium tanks at tier 6 and 7, you see that the german mediums are far better then the Russian and american ones. Having better armor, sloping at armor, slightly better guns suited for mediums and more health, while only having slighlty less speed and acceleration then the Russian/american ones. I tried them all out, so i know what i am talking about.
More examples are the tiers 4-5 SPG's. The grille is like the SU 14 at those tiers, while the hummel has the best accurate gun (with M41) and least aiming time of the 3. While having completly better speed, mobility, acceleration and ammo amount then the other tier 5 SPG's.
Yet do you see ANYONE saying that those vehicles are overpowerd?
Balance problems in WOT exist, but there are minor and only to a few vehicles per faction.
MrVic: Aye and Looks like the Devs are on top of it 
Good to hear. Eager to see what they
come up with
Good to hear. Eager to see what they
come up with MrVic
MrVic's Wall O Text
09.01.2011 21:29:42
Subject: Archives\Beta\MrVic's Wall O Text
Link on message: #354588
Alt, on 09 January 2011 - 09:21 PM, said: MrVic maybe you missed my post between the bickering of 10 people
over why or why not a poll should be considered as evidence. I'll
make a new one for you to see hopefully.
Performance numbers are useless, especially during the beginning of tanks being released and such. How long does it take to change things that need changing? It shouldn't take very long at all. You edit a couple of numbers and release a patch. Then... YOU LET THE BETA TESTERS TEST. Shocking idea, I know but maybe we could try that for a change. People are complaining that the numbers are wrong because... they are wrong. You shouldn't be trying to change numbers to make every tank be able to kill every tank. If you need a better explanation as to why, feel free to ask me. Just listen to me when I respond.
How would you make a poll that isn't pre spun?
Don't think that just because you're a mod you can't troll people, it seems you've been doing it a lot. Your constant smileys can't hide what you really think.
Archives\Beta\MrVic's Wall O TextLink on message: #354588
Alt, on 09 January 2011 - 09:21 PM, said: MrVic maybe you missed my post between the bickering of 10 people
over why or why not a poll should be considered as evidence. I'll
make a new one for you to see hopefully.Performance numbers are useless, especially during the beginning of tanks being released and such. How long does it take to change things that need changing? It shouldn't take very long at all. You edit a couple of numbers and release a patch. Then... YOU LET THE BETA TESTERS TEST. Shocking idea, I know but maybe we could try that for a change. People are complaining that the numbers are wrong because... they are wrong. You shouldn't be trying to change numbers to make every tank be able to kill every tank. If you need a better explanation as to why, feel free to ask me. Just listen to me when I respond.
How would you make a poll that isn't pre spun?
Don't think that just because you're a mod you can't troll people, it seems you've been doing it a lot. Your constant smileys can't hide what you really think.
MrVic: The poll is not pre spun the 75% of players remark is. Also I said
and will repeat it again, 600 players part is the important part.
Please do not try and troll on an account you created under 24
hours ago 0 Battles only posted in this thread. Your earlier post
has some faults might look into it and respond later, Tho off an
account being used to hide, I really cannot take much stock from
it, sorry
MrVic
MrVic's Wall O Text
09.01.2011 21:23:54
Subject: Archives\Beta\MrVic's Wall O Text
Link on message: #354568
jimk, on 09 January 2011 - 07:56 PM, said: LotRO, that’s just on top of my head, I can name many more. But
those are mmos that have been around for years. This is still in
beta and a comparison is not adequate, takes time to achieve
balance and perfection is not the issue here.
And yes all mmos and betas have balance issues but usually are very random as to where the imbalance falls and there is no trend to it. Every mmo I have played has had a OP healer or tank or dps ant some point, usually every faction has OP classes. I’ve never heard of an mmo where one faction has OP tank, dps and healer. At the same point in time.
Archives\Beta\MrVic's Wall O TextLink on message: #354568
jimk, on 09 January 2011 - 07:56 PM, said: LotRO, that’s just on top of my head, I can name many more. But
those are mmos that have been around for years. This is still in
beta and a comparison is not adequate, takes time to achieve
balance and perfection is not the issue here.And yes all mmos and betas have balance issues but usually are very random as to where the imbalance falls and there is no trend to it. Every mmo I have played has had a OP healer or tank or dps ant some point, usually every faction has OP classes. I’ve never heard of an mmo where one faction has OP tank, dps and healer. At the same point in time.
MrVic: Aye all games after release and forever have to balance, its just
how it works. We'll see things rise and fall as each month
passes.
As for the Tanks dps healer part... we don't have those but I get your reference. What you have have to look at tho, is in most games your listing such classes
Those classes are universal in abilities and available gear ect Ork Tanks are based on the same system as Elf Tanks. So to have a OP tank you end up with the class
being OP across all factions. So the impact is almost never limited to one faction since the factions have the same skill sets and gear options.
In WoT each tank in a way is its own class. They all perform differently. Granted some are of similar ability but overall their unique. So getting a few in one faction
at not a big deal, its stated its known and we now just wait for what they plan to do, once they figure it out. Making a good move to not disrupt the balance will take some time. I have some faith they will come up with some cool solutions
As for the Tanks dps healer part... we don't have those but I get your reference. What you have have to look at tho, is in most games your listing such classes
Those classes are universal in abilities and available gear ect Ork Tanks are based on the same system as Elf Tanks. So to have a OP tank you end up with the class
being OP across all factions. So the impact is almost never limited to one faction since the factions have the same skill sets and gear options.
In WoT each tank in a way is its own class. They all perform differently. Granted some are of similar ability but overall their unique. So getting a few in one faction
at not a big deal, its stated its known and we now just wait for what they plan to do, once they figure it out. Making a good move to not disrupt the balance will take some time. I have some faith they will come up with some cool solutions
MrVic
MrVic's Wall O Text
09.01.2011 21:00:20
Subject: Archives\Beta\MrVic's Wall O Text
Link on message: #354510
f2k, on 09 January 2011 - 01:20 PM, said: Impartial? Perhaps... But utterly useless...
Without understanding why the numbers are what they are, no amount of statistics are going to help you balance the game. And to understand the why, you need to talk, not to mention listen, to your players – something which is sorely lacking in this beta-test...
f2k, on 09 January 2011 - 01:20 PM, said: This, unfortunately, just proves my point...
75% of players responded that they felt that they prefer Russian tanks. And yet, you immediately twist that by saying that it’s just .29% of the players responding, thus invalidating the entire poll.
Yes, it’s a very small sample size and it’s taken from an uncontrolled group of players. But that does not mean that it’s invalid. In truth, it doesn’t mean that it is valid either, but that’s one of the big problems with statistics...
In any case, this highlights why you need to talk to your players.
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f2k, on 09 January 2011 - 01:20 PM, said: Impartial? Perhaps... But utterly useless...Without understanding why the numbers are what they are, no amount of statistics are going to help you balance the game. And to understand the why, you need to talk, not to mention listen, to your players – something which is sorely lacking in this beta-test...
MrVic: You say performance numbers are useless, all I can say is thats
wrong on so many levels. Also as I stated player opinions do not
cause the changes they are what flag you to a possible issue. So
they are useful and they do lead to changes, they give you your
starting point and your frame of reference when looking through the
data. The data is part of the checks and balances to ensure that
your not changing something that is truly not out of balance. As
Overlord stated about the IS-7 and the IS-4 both have some issues.
So Player opinions said so, they verified in the data, they are now
looking at solutions. What part of that does not sound like a good
idea? Why complain that numbers are wrong when their supporting
what you want to see change? I am really confused here...
f2k, on 09 January 2011 - 01:20 PM, said: This, unfortunately, just proves my point...75% of players responded that they felt that they prefer Russian tanks. And yet, you immediately twist that by saying that it’s just .29% of the players responding, thus invalidating the entire poll.
Yes, it’s a very small sample size and it’s taken from an uncontrolled group of players. But that does not mean that it’s invalid. In truth, it doesn’t mean that it is valid either, but that’s one of the big problems with statistics...
In any case, this highlights why you need to talk to your players.
MrVic: Yes I stated it, since it was twisted to begin with Also I never stated it was not an
important number. Actually said the opposite, given my break down
of it was showing the truth of it nothing more since it was "pre
spun" prior to my post.
Let me show you again You said "75% of players responded"
Thats incorrect and its a spin of it. I pointed out its 600 players
(this is a important number its accurate honest) The 75% of players
would be 150,000 voters, when it was only 600. Spinning was done on
the other end I just pointed out its frame of reference. Again 600
people is important boosting your number with a 75% blanket claim
just makes you seem like a troll.
Also why do you care you stated yourself numbers are "utterly useless" So you like numbers when they benefit you it seems
Also I never stated it was not an
important number. Actually said the opposite, given my break down
of it was showing the truth of it nothing more since it was "pre
spun" prior to my post.Let me show you again
You said "75% of players responded"
Thats incorrect and its a spin of it. I pointed out its 600 players
(this is a important number its accurate honest) The 75% of players
would be 150,000 voters, when it was only 600. Spinning was done on
the other end I just pointed out its frame of reference. Again 600
people is important boosting your number with a 75% blanket claim
just makes you seem like a troll.Also why do you care you stated yourself numbers are "utterly useless" So you like numbers when they benefit you it seems
Tanitha
I pity the fool playing on the German side after release
09.01.2011 19:52:35
Subject: Archives\Beta\I pity the fool playing on the German side after release
Link on message: #354362
6ep3a, on 09 January 2011 - 07:48 PM, said: have played both german and soviet tanks - so far neglected USA
tanks.
the russians have the biggest guns, the faster vehicles.
the germans have the most accurate guns and more hitpoints.
I go both ways and i think the germans are viable.
will use USA tanks post wipe / when game release any of those options.
Archives\Beta\I pity the fool playing on the German side after releaseLink on message: #354362
6ep3a, on 09 January 2011 - 07:48 PM, said: have played both german and soviet tanks - so far neglected USA
tanks.the russians have the biggest guns, the faster vehicles.
the germans have the most accurate guns and more hitpoints.
I go both ways and i think the germans are viable.
will use USA tanks post wipe / when game release any of those options.
Tanitha: You forgot a big issue there. Armour, Armour slope, and the ability
to bounce a ton of shots.
The German tanks have more HP sure, but compare that to a shot that's been bounced.
The mouse is a slow flat brick and I hate driving it.
The German tanks have more HP sure, but compare that to a shot that's been bounced.
The mouse is a slow flat brick and I hate driving it.
Tanitha
Unconsiderate users of localized clients.
09.01.2011 19:48:04
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Unconsiderate users of localized clients.
Link on message: #354351
Quote 3.1 Language
The official language of this forum is English. Using other languages is allowed in special forum sections only. Transliteration and intentionally distorted or illiterate language is unwelcome.
Users are to be considerate to those who obviously have difficulties with English, and similarly be considerate to English moderators who sometimes have to moderate in languages other than their own.
Quote 7.01. The official language of communication in the game and battle chats is English.
USA Server: The use of other languages, transliteration, and deliberately distorted or illiterate language is not welcome.
Euro Server: The use of other languages, transliteration, and deliberately distorted or illiterate language is not welcome, but not a violation. The use of any other language in private channels, especially the national languages in the channels of national clans, created by players, but not in the general channel is welcome.
Archives\Junkyard\Unconsiderate users of localized clients.Link on message: #354351
Quote 3.1 Language
The official language of this forum is English. Using other languages is allowed in special forum sections only. Transliteration and intentionally distorted or illiterate language is unwelcome.
Users are to be considerate to those who obviously have difficulties with English, and similarly be considerate to English moderators who sometimes have to moderate in languages other than their own.
Tanitha: Game :
Quote 7.01. The official language of communication in the game and battle chats is English.
USA Server: The use of other languages, transliteration, and deliberately distorted or illiterate language is not welcome.
Euro Server: The use of other languages, transliteration, and deliberately distorted or illiterate language is not welcome, but not a violation. The use of any other language in private channels, especially the national languages in the channels of national clans, created by players, but not in the general channel is welcome.
Tanitha: So as the rules state.
be considerate to those who obviously have difficulties with English
And leave the moderation to the moderators.
Ive been moderating the garage chat for the past 12 hours.
I think I've seen 10 non English lines all up.
At one time after about 5 non English lines, i asked them to speak English please, or take it to another channel, and they stopped.
As for in game. They are playing, so i doubt they are just sitting and chatting for 15 mins. Just ignore the odd line you cant read. No biggy.
Locking thread.. You don't need to discuss the rules, just follow them.
be considerate to those who obviously have difficulties with English
And leave the moderation to the moderators.
Ive been moderating the garage chat for the past 12 hours.
I think I've seen 10 non English lines all up.
At one time after about 5 non English lines, i asked them to speak English please, or take it to another channel, and they stopped.
As for in game. They are playing, so i doubt they are just sitting and chatting for 15 mins. Just ignore the odd line you cant read. No biggy.
Locking thread.. You don't need to discuss the rules, just follow them.
Tanitha
Accounts Deleted when open beta opens?
09.01.2011 18:38:03
Subject: Archives\Beta\Accounts Deleted when open beta opens?
Link on message: #354191
Duanbair, on 09 January 2011 - 05:32 PM, said: Everyone will start from zero (exp, money, gold, tanks etc. from
beta deleted), but we can keep our accounts.
Maybe the beta testers will get a premium tank as reward. The russian testers got a russian tank (i think a kv-220).
Archives\Beta\Accounts Deleted when open beta opens?Link on message: #354191
Duanbair, on 09 January 2011 - 05:32 PM, said: Everyone will start from zero (exp, money, gold, tanks etc. from
beta deleted), but we can keep our accounts.Maybe the beta testers will get a premium tank as reward. The russian testers got a russian tank (i think a kv-220).
Tanitha: Russians got a KV220, but that was a long time ago, they also got a
1/2 finished game to pay for.
Dont bank on any free tanks for release here when a fully complete game is released. They might or might not happen.
Dont bank on any free tanks for release here when a fully complete game is released. They might or might not happen.
Tanitha
Patch today? <DELETE/Solved>
09.01.2011 16:34:10
Subject: Archives\Beta\Patch today? <DELETE/Solved>
Link on message: #353905
jackal40, on 09 January 2011 - 03:09 AM, said: So those of us who use the launcher and got some kind of update
have no information on what was added, changed, or removed?
Archives\Beta\Patch today? <DELETE/Solved>Link on message: #353905
jackal40, on 09 January 2011 - 03:09 AM, said: So those of us who use the launcher and got some kind of update
have no information on what was added, changed, or removed?Tanitha: There was an announcement saying there was some new language packs,
So.. It was informed.
Tanitha
hi
09.01.2011 16:27:49
merig00
New pc build
09.01.2011 16:26:24
Subject: Archives\Beta\New pc build
Link on message: #353886
Archives\Beta\New pc buildLink on message: #353886
merig00: Ok so after all the recommendations here is my new build:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 890GX ATX AMD Motherboard
EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE 1GB
Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3-1333 (PC-10666) CL9 Dual Channel
Corsair Gaming Series 700 Watt High Performance ATX Power Supply
Corsair Air Series A50 Universal Intel / AMD CPU Cooler
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD5001AALS - OEM
Cooler Master Elite 430 Mid Tower Case
Total: $807 before $65 rebates = $742 final price
What do you guys think?
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 890GX ATX AMD Motherboard
EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE 1GB
Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3-1333 (PC-10666) CL9 Dual Channel
Corsair Gaming Series 700 Watt High Performance ATX Power Supply
Corsair Air Series A50 Universal Intel / AMD CPU Cooler
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD5001AALS - OEM
Cooler Master Elite 430 Mid Tower Case
Total: $807 before $65 rebates = $742 final price
What do you guys think?
Tanitha
Will we ever see this tank?
09.01.2011 13:41:32
Subject: Archives\Beta\Will we ever see this tank?
Link on message: #353541
Archives\Beta\Will we ever see this tank?Link on message: #353541
Tanitha: These tanks are posted weekly, And at the moment there isn't a
section for them on the forums.
There is just section for "MBT" and Tanks in game.
There is no section for older tanks that are not in the game, or other weaponry like scout vehicles etc..
When the new forums come online there will be an appropriate section for them then.
In the mean time, I'll move this to offtopic.
There is just section for "MBT" and Tanks in game.
There is no section for older tanks that are not in the game, or other weaponry like scout vehicles etc..
When the new forums come online there will be an appropriate section for them then.
In the mean time, I'll move this to offtopic.
Tanitha
A suggestion for the red line getting stuck problem
09.01.2011 13:36:37
Subject: Archives\Beta\Suggestions\A suggestion for the red line getting stuck problem
Link on message: #353532
ArmsAndLegsGuy, on 09 January 2011 - 08:33 AM, said: The Developers have been working on it afaik, and I have noticed
that if you are able to get up to speed either forward or reverse,
and then gently tap the left or right key, at some time either your
front or rear end will get a small angle to the red line, and
thereby allow you to get free.
A better solution though, if possible, would be to make the red border "sawtoothed" in 45 degree angles. If it is in a sawtooth pattern with a quarter of the shortest tank's length, no tanks would be able to get stuck along the red border line, without a way to get free.
Sorry for the freehand MS-Paintbrush skills (or lack of same). But this graphic should give an idea of what I mean.
Ofcourse, this wouldn't work on the buildings, the railroad cars or any of the other objects with long straight lines. Another solution needs to be found there.
A&L-Guy
P.S. I would have posted this in the suggestions section, but alas I don't have enough posts yet, to do so. If a kind moderator would like to move my post there, I'd be much obliged.
Archives\Beta\Suggestions\A suggestion for the red line getting stuck problemLink on message: #353532
ArmsAndLegsGuy, on 09 January 2011 - 08:33 AM, said: The Developers have been working on it afaik, and I have noticed
that if you are able to get up to speed either forward or reverse,
and then gently tap the left or right key, at some time either your
front or rear end will get a small angle to the red line, and
thereby allow you to get free.A better solution though, if possible, would be to make the red border "sawtoothed" in 45 degree angles. If it is in a sawtooth pattern with a quarter of the shortest tank's length, no tanks would be able to get stuck along the red border line, without a way to get free.
Sorry for the freehand MS-Paintbrush skills (or lack of same). But this graphic should give an idea of what I mean.
Ofcourse, this wouldn't work on the buildings, the railroad cars or any of the other objects with long straight lines. Another solution needs to be found there.
A&L-Guy
P.S. I would have posted this in the suggestions section, but alas I don't have enough posts yet, to do so. If a kind moderator would like to move my post there, I'd be much obliged.
Tanitha:
Tanitha
Discussion About Rules
09.01.2011 10:58:49
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Discussion About Rules
Link on message: #353279
Alt, on 09 January 2011 - 10:49 AM, said: First, is it ok to discuss about rules?
Second, is it ok to discuss about how rules are enforced?
Third, is it ok to discuss who should be able to enforce those rules?
You can't really have a discussion with support, they seem to only give one or two sentence answers.
(If this thread is against the rules just delete it and send me a PM or something.)
Archives\Junkyard\Discussion About RulesLink on message: #353279
Alt, on 09 January 2011 - 10:49 AM, said: First, is it ok to discuss about rules?Second, is it ok to discuss about how rules are enforced?
Third, is it ok to discuss who should be able to enforce those rules?
You can't really have a discussion with support, they seem to only give one or two sentence answers.
(If this thread is against the rules just delete it and send me a PM or something.)
Tanitha: Its not really, no.
Here, it wouldn't be a discussion on the rules or how they were enforced anyway, With it being open and public, it would soon be derailed and go offtopic.
If you want to have a discussion about rules, or how they are enforced. Pm me if you like, Im helping to finish off a new ruleset for the forums, game, game chat, and moderators, today.
So now would be the best time to discuss anything you wanted to discuss.
Throw me a PM, I'll lock this.
Regards.
Here, it wouldn't be a discussion on the rules or how they were enforced anyway, With it being open and public, it would soon be derailed and go offtopic.
If you want to have a discussion about rules, or how they are enforced. Pm me if you like, Im helping to finish off a new ruleset for the forums, game, game chat, and moderators, today.
So now would be the best time to discuss anything you wanted to discuss.
Throw me a PM, I'll lock this.
Regards.
MrVic
Balance Fail
09.01.2011 10:29:32
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Balance Fail
Link on message: #353248
MatrixReloaded, on 09 January 2011 - 09:50 AM, said: Now tell me this is not unfair!
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MatrixReloaded, on 09 January 2011 - 09:50 AM, said: Now tell me this is not unfair!MrVic: lol 90 point sides under 15 man teams.... Anyway closing there is a
section for balance topics, and this is just incorrect Thanks MrVic
Thanks MrVicMrVic
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EchelonIII, on 09 January 2011 - 08:17 AM, said: 75% is still a very, very large swing in favor of russian
tanks.
Now for some statistics:
Let's assume that we have a population of 200k, and the perception is that a third see German tanks as better, a third see Russian tanks as better, and a third see US tanks as better (roughly 66k per faction). What do you think the odds are that from this sample, we could pick 600 people, and "just by chance" pick 75% of them from the third that perceive Russian tanks as better?
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EchelonIII, on 09 January 2011 - 08:17 AM, said: 75% is still a very, very large swing in favor of russian
tanks.Now for some statistics:
Let's assume that we have a population of 200k, and the perception is that a third see German tanks as better, a third see Russian tanks as better, and a third see US tanks as better (roughly 66k per faction). What do you think the odds are that from this sample, we could pick 600 people, and "just by chance" pick 75% of them from the third that perceive Russian tanks as better?
MrVic: Your still polling only .29 % of the population, I can say the same
thing Lets say 80% think US tanks are the
best 10% say Russian Tanks 10% say German Tanks. We pick 600
people. 75% equals 600 people say Russian tanks are overpowered.
Thats 600 people out of 20,000 ones that think Russian Tanks are
overpowered. Even at 1/3 split the odds over getting 600 people is
not all that hard in a pool of 66k players. Regardless those that
feel there is no imbalance are less likely to go to the forums to
state as such. Its the basics of Public Poll statistics, those with
a more negitive response will post or submit feedback more often
and in larger numbers then positive feedback.
Regardless I am not saying its an unimportant number in anyway, just commented due to the 75% of testers part. Where as its only 600 testers of 200k. It was posted kinda of skewed manner
Regardless Overlord posted in regard to some of the russian tanks, you should be happy, but instead you kinda threw it back at him. Just confused me since its something most would be happy to hear (75% aka 600 people) at least
Lets say 80% think US tanks are the
best 10% say Russian Tanks 10% say German Tanks. We pick 600
people. 75% equals 600 people say Russian tanks are overpowered.
Thats 600 people out of 20,000 ones that think Russian Tanks are
overpowered. Even at 1/3 split the odds over getting 600 people is
not all that hard in a pool of 66k players. Regardless those that
feel there is no imbalance are less likely to go to the forums to
state as such. Its the basics of Public Poll statistics, those with
a more negitive response will post or submit feedback more often
and in larger numbers then positive feedback.Regardless I am not saying its an unimportant number in anyway, just commented due to the 75% of testers part. Where as its only 600 testers of 200k. It was posted kinda of skewed manner
Regardless Overlord posted in regard to some of the russian tanks, you should be happy, but instead you kinda threw it back at him. Just confused me since its something most would be happy to hear (75% aka 600 people) at least
MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
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GunKata, on 09 January 2011 - 08:03 AM, said: So what you are saying is the sloped armor of your head kept you
from taking any real damage?
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GunKata, on 09 January 2011 - 08:03 AM, said: So what you are saying is the sloped armor of your head kept you
from taking any real damage?MrVic: In away yes! And the 2 hoodies I was wearing were spaced plate
armor... stupid hard hat did not help me very much. Tho we did dub
all the workers that fell due to ice/snow, that they were making
"Drunken Snow angels"
MrVic
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GunKata, on Jan 09 2011 - 07:03, said: So what you are saying is the sloped armor of your head kept you
from taking any real damage?
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GunKata, on Jan 09 2011 - 07:03, said: So what you are saying is the sloped armor of your head kept you
from taking any real damage?MrVic: In away yes! And the 2 hoodies I was wearing were spaced
plate armor... stupid hard hat did not help me very
much. Tho we did dub all the workers that fell due to
ice/snow, that they were making "Drunken Snow angels"
MrVic
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GunKata, on Jan 09 2011 - 07:03, said: So what you are saying is the sloped armor of your head kept you
from taking any real damage?
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GunKata, on Jan 09 2011 - 07:03, said: So what you are saying is the sloped armor of your head kept you
from taking any real damage?MrVic: In away yes! And the 2 hoodies I was wearing were spaced
plate armor... stupid hard hat did not help me very
much. Tho we did dub all the workers that fell due to
ice/snow, that they were making "Drunken Snow angels"
MrVic
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WKMitchell, on 09 January 2011 - 06:41 AM, said: Statistics do create a baseline and are a good idea to use when
formulating game balance, but as I know as I have done enough
university level statistics to know that many cases you have people
who arent trained or minimally trained in statistics interpreting
numbers and missing the entire sub text of the stat. All I have
seen posted on this board as reasons for game balance changes are
just that completely out of context statistics. So far I dont see
the stats improving underpreforming tanks though instead we got
buffs to the IS-4 which is arguably(IMO) the best tank in the game,
and we have seen no serious talk from the devs on what is wrong
with what are generally considered the underpreforming tanks.
You are right also in that the more variables that you add the more difficult it becomes to balance and interpret stats. Yes general tier setup is decent and semi well balanced. Though there are some stand out tanks on both sides of what you could call the balanced line very little of any of the changes since I started 5months ago have dealt with those issues at all. Though if you get into the balance on multiplayer FPS or RTS there is a lot more to balance then you would think easily as much this game if you want to do it right.
If anything what would help the devs most other then just a blanket "more well written posts" statement. A little dev input on how they would like us to tackle(get into specific stats, etc?) the OP/UP tank issue would be useful as well so that we can put it in a format that will get discussion with the devs without turning it into another Russian Bias thread.
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WKMitchell, on 09 January 2011 - 06:41 AM, said: Statistics do create a baseline and are a good idea to use when
formulating game balance, but as I know as I have done enough
university level statistics to know that many cases you have people
who arent trained or minimally trained in statistics interpreting
numbers and missing the entire sub text of the stat. All I have
seen posted on this board as reasons for game balance changes are
just that completely out of context statistics. So far I dont see
the stats improving underpreforming tanks though instead we got
buffs to the IS-4 which is arguably(IMO) the best tank in the game,
and we have seen no serious talk from the devs on what is wrong
with what are generally considered the underpreforming tanks.You are right also in that the more variables that you add the more difficult it becomes to balance and interpret stats. Yes general tier setup is decent and semi well balanced. Though there are some stand out tanks on both sides of what you could call the balanced line very little of any of the changes since I started 5months ago have dealt with those issues at all. Though if you get into the balance on multiplayer FPS or RTS there is a lot more to balance then you would think easily as much this game if you want to do it right.
If anything what would help the devs most other then just a blanket "more well written posts" statement. A little dev input on how they would like us to tackle(get into specific stats, etc?) the OP/UP tank issue would be useful as well so that we can put it in a format that will get discussion with the devs without turning it into another Russian Bias thread.
MrVic: Oh I know they other games have lots to the balance but most are
quite a bit fewer in variables. With the ballistics engine in this
game alone calculates effective armor thickness based on the angle
of shot taken, also with varying levels of protection due to armor
front/side/top/rear those variables create a much larger balance
problem. Most other games the person/unit you control has less
variables based on location. Even hit boxes for arms/legs/head are
much simpler. In WoT with modules and armor facings instead of a
chest shot you have a chest shot with a shattered rib and a
punctured lung
All games are very hard to balance, WoT I think has a monumental task in doing it here due to the situation.
All games are very hard to balance, WoT I think has a monumental task in doing it here due to the situation.
MrVic
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ComfortablyApathetic, on 09 January 2011 - 06:30 AM, said: Nice newsletter as always, even though this one didnt have as much
new information. One question though - Have they definitively
confirmed that they're going to add the M103? All I've seen is
Overlord's response in your thread that they'll probably add it at
some point.
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ComfortablyApathetic, on 09 January 2011 - 06:30 AM, said: Nice newsletter as always, even though this one didnt have as much
new information. One question though - Have they definitively
confirmed that they're going to add the M103? All I've seen is
Overlord's response in your thread that they'll probably add it at
some point.MrVic: Yeah holidays are rough times, plus we got a TON of stuff right
before the full holiday swing. I think next week we'll be back on
track info wise
We look to be heading in that direction but until its confirmed we can only hope The devs it looks are working on
some neat changes, we just have to wait a bit and see what they
come up with
We look to be heading in that direction but until its confirmed we can only hope
The devs it looks are working on
some neat changes, we just have to wait a bit and see what they
come up with MrVic
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ComfortablyApathetic, on Jan 09 2011 - 05:30, said: Nice newsletter as always, even though this one didnt have as much
new information. One question though - Have they definitively
confirmed that they're going to add the M103? All I've seen is
Overlord's response in your thread that they'll probably add it at
some point.
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ComfortablyApathetic, on Jan 09 2011 - 05:30, said: Nice newsletter as always, even though this one didnt have as much
new information. One question though - Have they definitively
confirmed that they're going to add the M103? All I've seen is
Overlord's response in your thread that they'll probably add it at
some point.MrVic: Yeah holidays are rough times, plus we got a TON of stuff right
before the full holiday swing. I think next week we'll be back on
track info wise
We look to be heading in that direction but until its confirmed we can only hope The devs it looks are working on
some neat changes, we just have to wait a bit and see what they
come up with
We look to be heading in that direction but until its confirmed we can only hope
The devs it looks are working on
some neat changes, we just have to wait a bit and see what they
come up with MrVic
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ComfortablyApathetic, on Jan 09 2011 - 05:30, said: Nice newsletter as always, even though this one didnt have as much
new information. One question though - Have they definitively
confirmed that they're going to add the M103? All I've seen is
Overlord's response in your thread that they'll probably add it at
some point.
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ComfortablyApathetic, on Jan 09 2011 - 05:30, said: Nice newsletter as always, even though this one didnt have as much
new information. One question though - Have they definitively
confirmed that they're going to add the M103? All I've seen is
Overlord's response in your thread that they'll probably add it at
some point.MrVic: Yeah holidays are rough times, plus we got a TON of stuff right
before the full holiday swing. I think next week we'll be back on
track info wise
We look to be heading in that direction but until its confirmed we can only hope The devs it looks are working on
some neat changes, we just have to wait a bit and see what they
come up with
We look to be heading in that direction but until its confirmed we can only hope
The devs it looks are working on
some neat changes, we just have to wait a bit and see what they
come up with MrVic
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jimk, on 09 January 2011 - 02:55 AM, said: Also don’t know what data you have but the data that has been
published in the forums means less then nothing. It’s all derived
from the win/loss ratio which in itself, due to the extreme number
of variables, is reduced to a coin toss at the moment. And any data
that derives form a 50/50 base statistic it will round up to +/-
50%, Hence the appearance of balance.
Here is the poll by the testers, no mater how you spin that 75% of us cant be wrong. If we're here to beta test please consider our opinion. We are the future customers in the end of the day not some super AI bots who will change their playstyle to match your statistics.
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jimk, on 09 January 2011 - 02:55 AM, said: Also don’t know what data you have but the data that has been
published in the forums means less then nothing. It’s all derived
from the win/loss ratio which in itself, due to the extreme number
of variables, is reduced to a coin toss at the moment. And any data
that derives form a 50/50 base statistic it will round up to +/-
50%, Hence the appearance of balance.Here is the poll by the testers, no mater how you spin that 75% of us cant be wrong. If we're here to beta test please consider our opinion. We are the future customers in the end of the day not some super AI bots who will change their playstyle to match your statistics.
MrVic: Just some fun with numbers "75% of us" 593 votes, Probably 200k
accounts EU side (I think its actually higher). So if my math is
correct that poll represents 0.29% of the population EU side. Plus
it looks as tho the devs are on top of some changes in regards to
some of these concerns.
"75% of us" 593 votes, Probably 200k
accounts EU side (I think its actually higher). So if my math is
correct that poll represents 0.29% of the population EU side. Plus
it looks as tho the devs are on top of some changes in regards to
some of these concerns.MrVic
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WKMitchell, on 09 January 2011 - 04:04 AM, said: Thank you Overlord for replying to many of the more interesting
posts in this thread.
The problem with balancing on pure statistics is they are easily mis-interpreted as we are all human it is very easy to not realise that just one forgotten variable can skew a whole statistic till it is nothing more then junk. Like using win ratios of a tank they are 1 of 15 people that is mostly likely a conglomerate of all the different factions so even if one tank is OP over time its win ratio will tend towards neutral as they are matched with tanks that maybe underperforming.
Honestly if you just keep talking to us like you have in this thread you will see a lot of the frustration dissipate.
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WKMitchell, on 09 January 2011 - 04:04 AM, said: Thank you Overlord for replying to many of the more interesting
posts in this thread.The problem with balancing on pure statistics is they are easily mis-interpreted as we are all human it is very easy to not realise that just one forgotten variable can skew a whole statistic till it is nothing more then junk. Like using win ratios of a tank they are 1 of 15 people that is mostly likely a conglomerate of all the different factions so even if one tank is OP over time its win ratio will tend towards neutral as they are matched with tanks that maybe underperforming.
Honestly if you just keep talking to us like you have in this thread you will see a lot of the frustration dissipate.
MrVic: Statistics create a base line to go from. A truth so to speak.
(things go deeper then win/lose) So players impressions and
opinions guide you to an area to investigate in the Statistics.
Thus you create balance. The balance and under performing tanks it
all works out in the long average, and only does the main tanks
performance matter if its moved away from the under performing
tanks in the balance. So once this happens the statistics pick it
and probably player opinion. Then more changes are made.
hehe really its a kinda of paradox in the world of balancing anything Actually was thinking the other
night, Most FPS, RTS ect only have a handful of values to balance
units, World of tanks have tons of varying guns and weapons,
combined with varying terrain and modules, with even more varying
speeds turn rate and armor/armor facings.
Its shocking with this many variables we have pretty well overall setup tiers.
hehe really its a kinda of paradox in the world of balancing anything
Actually was thinking the other
night, Most FPS, RTS ect only have a handful of values to balance
units, World of tanks have tons of varying guns and weapons,
combined with varying terrain and modules, with even more varying
speeds turn rate and armor/armor facings.Its shocking with this many variables we have pretty well overall setup tiers.
MrVic
US Tech Tree Changes And Improvements
09.01.2011 05:47:18
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gabriel, on 08 January 2011 - 10:42 PM, said: Reading Overlords comment has me excited and looking forward to any
and all changes made to the US medium line, which has become my
favorite.
-regarding the M103
Not saying the armor is great - but simple numbers without considering angles doesn't help.
Think all of the IS-4, it's not the pure armor thickness, it's the slope as well.
http://upload.wikime...03A2_museum.jpg
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gabriel, on 08 January 2011 - 10:42 PM, said: Reading Overlords comment has me excited and looking forward to any
and all changes made to the US medium line, which has become my
favorite.-regarding the M103
Not saying the armor is great - but simple numbers without considering angles doesn't help.
Think all of the IS-4, it's not the pure armor thickness, it's the slope as well.
http://upload.wikime...03A2_museum.jpg
MrVic: Yeah its the one thing that makes the 103 nice is the slopes, the
effective armor is listed based on flat plane shots vs the slopes.
MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
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ligerox, on 09 January 2011 - 05:42 AM, said: so when its released its gonna be free to play after purchase?
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ligerox, on 09 January 2011 - 05:42 AM, said: so when its released its gonna be free to play after purchase?MrVic: Right now its free to play period Gold is purchased with real money.
No box to buy (tho a boxed version maybe sold also) That is once
released
Gold is purchased with real money.
No box to buy (tho a boxed version maybe sold also) That is once
releasedMrVic
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ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 04:42, said: so when its released its gonna be free to play after purchase?
Link on message: #352955
ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 04:42, said: so when its released its gonna be free to play after purchase?MrVic: Right now its free to play period Gold is purchased with
real money. No box to buy (tho a boxed version maybe
sold also) That is once released
Gold is purchased with
real money. No box to buy (tho a boxed version maybe
sold also) That is once releasedMrVic
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ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 04:42, said: so when its released its gonna be free to play after purchase?
Link on message: #352955
ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 04:42, said: so when its released its gonna be free to play after purchase?MrVic: Right now its free to play period Gold is purchased with
real money. No box to buy (tho a boxed version maybe
sold also) That is once released
Gold is purchased with
real money. No box to buy (tho a boxed version maybe
sold also) That is once releasedMrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
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WingNut, on 09 January 2011 - 03:45 AM, said: Better late than never.
Hows the knot on your head?
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WingNut, on 09 January 2011 - 03:45 AM, said: Better late than never.Hows the knot on your head?
MrVic: No knot, just hit it just hard enough to screw things up. Its all
about the angle you hit not always how hard. But doing pretty good
now
MrVic
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WingNut, on Jan 09 2011 - 02:45, said: Better late than never.
Hows the knot on your head?
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WingNut, on Jan 09 2011 - 02:45, said: Better late than never.Hows the knot on your head?
MrVic: No knot, just hit it just hard enough to screw things
up. Its all about the angle you hit not always how hard.
But doing pretty good now
MrVic
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WingNut, on Jan 09 2011 - 02:45, said: Better late than never.
Hows the knot on your head?
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WingNut, on Jan 09 2011 - 02:45, said: Better late than never.Hows the knot on your head?
MrVic: No knot, just hit it just hard enough to screw things
up. Its all about the angle you hit not always how hard.
But doing pretty good now
MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 05:41:45
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ligerox, on 09 January 2011 - 04:34 AM, said: i love these newsletters keep them going 
but one thing thats
gonna put me off playing when its released it you need a MONTLY
PAYMENT TO PLAY/subscription(found it out via survey) 
thats gonna put most people off
but i dont get why you dont just buy it in store then its free to
play you still earn money that way 
well after the beta is over looks like i wont be staying cause of subscrpition its just unfair on people overseas becuase of exchange rate
P.S i live in New Zealand
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ligerox, on 09 January 2011 - 04:34 AM, said: i love these newsletters keep them going but one thing thats
gonna put me off playing when its released it you need a MONTLY
PAYMENT TO PLAY/subscription(found it out via survey) thats gonna put most people off
but i dont get why you dont just buy it in store then its free to
play you still earn money that way well after the beta is over looks like i wont be staying cause of subscrpition its just unfair on people overseas becuase of exchange rate
P.S i live in New Zealand
MrVic: Think you got the subscription part confused. Its asking what style
you like not what it is right now, its free to play, with
micro-transactions.
MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 05:41:45
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #7
Link on message: #352949
ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 03:34, said: i love these newsletters keep them going 
but one thing thats
gonna put me off playing when its released it you need a MONTLY
PAYMENT TO PLAY/subscription(found it out via survey) 
thats gonna put most
people off but i dont get why you dont just buy it in store then
its free to play you still earn money that way 
well after the beta is over looks like i wont be staying cause of subscrpition its just unfair on people overseas becuase of exchange rate
P.S i live in New Zealand
Link on message: #352949
ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 03:34, said: i love these newsletters keep them going but one thing thats
gonna put me off playing when its released it you need a MONTLY
PAYMENT TO PLAY/subscription(found it out via survey) thats gonna put most
people off but i dont get why you dont just buy it in store then
its free to play you still earn money that way well after the beta is over looks like i wont be staying cause of subscrpition its just unfair on people overseas becuase of exchange rate
P.S i live in New Zealand
MrVic: Think you got the subscription part confused. Its asking
what style you like not what it is right now, its free to play,
with micro-transactions.
MrVic
WoT Newsletter Volume #7
09.01.2011 05:41:45
Subject: WoT Newsletter Volume #7
Link on message: #352949
ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 03:34, said: i love these newsletters keep them going but one thing thats
gonna put me off playing when its released it you need a MONTLY
PAYMENT TO PLAY/subscription(found it out via survey) thats gonna put most
people off but i dont get why you dont just buy it in store then
its free to play you still earn money that way
well after the beta is over looks like i wont be staying cause of subscrpition its just unfair on people overseas becuase of exchange rate
P.S i live in New Zealand
Link on message: #352949
ligerox, on Jan 09 2011 - 03:34, said: i love these newsletters keep them going but one thing thats
gonna put me off playing when its released it you need a MONTLY
PAYMENT TO PLAY/subscription(found it out via survey) thats gonna put most
people off but i dont get why you dont just buy it in store then
its free to play you still earn money that way well after the beta is over looks like i wont be staying cause of subscrpition its just unfair on people overseas becuase of exchange rate
P.S i live in New Zealand
MrVic: Think you got the subscription part confused. Its asking
what style you like not what it is right now, its free to play,
with micro-transactions.
MrVic
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CCC_Dober, on 09 January 2011 - 04:19 AM, said: Vic, if you want my opinion about that, I couldn't post it here.
I'd be banned to hell and back.
So I'll keep it short and sweet: reality check!
Either you play a completely different version of the game than we play or you are trying to goad sensible people into flame-trolling your post. I like a good feedback, but your written perception of the game differs greatly from that of others who put hours in it every day. I can only repeat: reality check!
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CCC_Dober, on 09 January 2011 - 04:19 AM, said: Vic, if you want my opinion about that, I couldn't post it here.
I'd be banned to hell and back.So I'll keep it short and sweet: reality check!
Either you play a completely different version of the game than we play or you are trying to goad sensible people into flame-trolling your post. I like a good feedback, but your written perception of the game differs greatly from that of others who put hours in it every day. I can only repeat: reality check!
MrVic: I think you need to re-read it, I made no claim to any balance
issues that may be present or presumed. Mainly looking at some of
the reasons people want something changed.
Actually mentioned nothing in regards to this is better then that or nerf this or change that My reality seems in check
Actually mentioned nothing in regards to this is better then that or nerf this or change that
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