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Subject: Clam Wars event poll
Link on message: #3535196
Garbad, on Jan 20 2013 - 19:50, said: As an interesting note 34 people like t3 clam wars:
Striker_002, Tiger_23, impsamurai, PTwr, ed_anger, Yoott, Haggis_of_Doom, xxWrathxx, CreepyJanitor, Legiondude, SULOMON, Dogface_GI, AsianBoiTanker, Fritz_Panzer, stormofjustice9, Traudl_Junge, LOBSTER_MOBSTER, Glaber, Bobaflay, 1bigtracker, Chicada, WhoDaPhuck, 907_ATT, JesusDidntDie, NoLubeForYou, Adizzel, Rilak, Hi_Im_Chris_Hansen, AdmSycron, Cool_Aids, Its_Not_Lupus, Spanisharmada, AlexHawk, F250_4x4
Of those, screening out those who don't play or plan to play CW, including alts:
Striker_002, ed_anger, LOBSTER_MOBSTER, Rilak, AlexHawk
So the poll among people who actually play CW or want to play CW is about 90% against tier 3.
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Striker_002, Tiger_23, impsamurai, PTwr, ed_anger, Yoott, Haggis_of_Doom, xxWrathxx, CreepyJanitor, Legiondude, SULOMON, Dogface_GI, AsianBoiTanker, Fritz_Panzer, stormofjustice9, Traudl_Junge, LOBSTER_MOBSTER, Glaber, Bobaflay, 1bigtracker, Chicada, WhoDaPhuck, 907_ATT, JesusDidntDie, NoLubeForYou, Adizzel, Rilak, Hi_Im_Chris_Hansen, AdmSycron, Cool_Aids, Its_Not_Lupus, Spanisharmada, AlexHawk, F250_4x4
Of those, screening out those who don't play or plan to play CW, including alts:
Striker_002, ed_anger, LOBSTER_MOBSTER, Rilak, AlexHawk
So the poll among people who actually play CW or want to play CW is about 90% against tier 3.
Yoott: LOL again by play CW do you mean own land like you?
Also of course more people that play CW are going to vote they are not playing ..... you top clans have been the biggest bunch of whining crying babies this server has EVER seen.......... too bad your not EVERYONE though isnt it a shame....
haha I play CW every single night... I have built up a team from scratch at tier 4 to almost full tiers (another week or two) and we play 3 - 4 battles a night in CW ... so ... as im only investigating myself... I would guess again as expected your steering these results to your needs by basically claiming anyone that does not hold land like G.. is a NON player...
LOL keep going I still see no unanimous decision here ....
Also of course more people that play CW are going to vote they are not playing ..... you top clans have been the biggest bunch of whining crying babies this server has EVER seen.......... too bad your not EVERYONE though isnt it a shame....
haha I play CW every single night... I have built up a team from scratch at tier 4 to almost full tiers (another week or two) and we play 3 - 4 battles a night in CW ... so ... as im only investigating myself... I would guess again as expected your steering these results to your needs by basically claiming anyone that does not hold land like G.. is a NON player...
LOL keep going I still see no unanimous decision here ....
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3535059
PanzerF, on Jan 20 2013 - 19:27, said: Yoott, are you still touting this line that most real clans dont
care about the upcoming state of CW? Because then you really need
to open your eyes.
This was enough of an issue that players went after WG knowing they would receive ROs and suspensions.
The general uproar and number of threads against this should be a big tell for you.
You say that its a minority here that are upset, that minority is Clan Wars. The people that arent here reading, are the people who wont participate in CW anyways because they dont care. They arent speaking up in support because they arent a part of Clan Wars regardless of whatever tier level is being played.
Those that are, believe they can take a team of Tier 3s into a playing field where they will be one shot very quickly.
4 Landing zones? The big clans arent dumb. They didnt have all that land in Europe by luck. They had good strategists and great diplomacy for the most part. And they had highly skilled players going into the field to fight for them.
Do you really think that deals havent already been worked out to once again lock down NA? Especially with only 4 ways into it? Yes, with this many teams, there is a chance that they might get knocked out. Its undoubtedly higher of a chance here, then if they were competing on a LZ in Europe. But odds are that a few familiar clans will control LZs at the end of Day 1 in NA
30K, on Jan 20 2013 - 19:30, said: WG screwing us over again just like how they always do...good job
keep it up
Link on message: #3535059

This was enough of an issue that players went after WG knowing they would receive ROs and suspensions.
The general uproar and number of threads against this should be a big tell for you.
You say that its a minority here that are upset, that minority is Clan Wars. The people that arent here reading, are the people who wont participate in CW anyways because they dont care. They arent speaking up in support because they arent a part of Clan Wars regardless of whatever tier level is being played.
Those that are, believe they can take a team of Tier 3s into a playing field where they will be one shot very quickly.
4 Landing zones? The big clans arent dumb. They didnt have all that land in Europe by luck. They had good strategists and great diplomacy for the most part. And they had highly skilled players going into the field to fight for them.
Do you really think that deals havent already been worked out to once again lock down NA? Especially with only 4 ways into it? Yes, with this many teams, there is a chance that they might get knocked out. Its undoubtedly higher of a chance here, then if they were competing on a LZ in Europe. But odds are that a few familiar clans will control LZs at the end of Day 1 in NA
Yoott: OK I can see there were issues in the event that need to be
discussed but have you gusy gone back and look at the rage and
stupidness that has been posted....... you sound no better then 90%
of the forum trolls that frequent this place instead of the guys
that are supposed to know more about the system..... post like

Yoott: are very constructive and helpful...... ok lets take this a new
direction......
instead of saysing WG YOU FED UP OMGERSH YOU SUXORS.... lets figure out if there is a way to set up the next release of land in a few weeks to not be so negative.. its all Ive been asking but I get met with ... YOU GUYS SUCK, SHUT UP... GO AWAY YOU SUBCLAN.....
they say there is going to be what 3 more releases of land ... lets make sure they are done right.....
instead of saysing WG YOU FED UP OMGERSH YOU SUXORS.... lets figure out if there is a way to set up the next release of land in a few weeks to not be so negative.. its all Ive been asking but I get met with ... YOU GUYS SUCK, SHUT UP... GO AWAY YOU SUBCLAN.....
they say there is going to be what 3 more releases of land ... lets make sure they are done right.....
Subject: Clam Wars event poll
Link on message: #3534935
PanzerF, on Jan 20 2013 - 19:03, said: Yoot, do you honestly believe many of these clans will have a
chance in hell with Tier 3 tanks? At least before they might be
able to get a round off. Now they will simply be derped into
oblivion by the nearest Cruiser
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Yoott: NO but thats not the point behind this event....... but again the
elite clans should not be upset by tier 3 so much.... seems to me
would be free wins for you... so why all the butthurt over it... at
the end I expect to see the same top teams sitting on the map in
the same places... but that does not mean the event is wrong for
making them do it in something the normally dont have to do it
in...
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534911
Garbad, on Jan 20 2013 - 19:02, said: Or better yet -- let's have a poll among people who don't play CW
about CW.
Link on message: #3534911

Yoott: no You brought it up that it would be unanimous .... so lets see it
play out that way... and here I post I will make the biggest
apology thread on the forums if your right but I cant see it
happening so...
76 teams on the map at end of CW........
less then 20 are up in arms over the event.... hardly unanimous when 300 + teams owned land during the course of the last downtime...... thats alot of teams not here crying and whining...
76 teams on the map at end of CW........
less then 20 are up in arms over the event.... hardly unanimous when 300 + teams owned land during the course of the last downtime...... thats alot of teams not here crying and whining...
Subject: Clam Wars event poll
Link on message: #3534879
T___A, on Jan 20 2013 - 19:00, said: I find it ironic that they celebrate us getting tier 10s then a
while later they force us to use tier 3
Link on message: #3534879

Yoott: FOR 10 DAYS ... wow go change your diaper or panties whichever you
prefer ...
IF your all so elite why are you scared to play tier 3's???.... because honestly its the only reason I can see...... I cant understand why really but how else can you explain it...
because if your so good and it makes no change to how this is going to go ... then whats the issue.... none...
And please save me the "we are only hoping to spare the BADDIES the losses" elitist attitude..... as we know you dont really care...
IF your all so elite why are you scared to play tier 3's???.... because honestly its the only reason I can see...... I cant understand why really but how else can you explain it...
because if your so good and it makes no change to how this is going to go ... then whats the issue.... none...
And please save me the "we are only hoping to spare the BADDIES the losses" elitist attitude..... as we know you dont really care...
Subject: Clam Wars event poll
Link on message: #3534861
Garbad, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:59, said: I expect the devs have misread their audience. The people who think
t3 CW is cool don't actually play CW, nor will they. I expect this
will show in the poll -- note how those who vote for t3 clan wars
"maybe" will play CW and those who actually play clam wars
universally loathe it. Its a great example of an idea that sounds
cool to those who don't actually play and shouldn't be voting.
But let's see.
Link on message: #3534861

But let's see.

Yoott: LOL by "play" do you mean win... because your ego is stepping in
front of your definitions again.....
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534836
Garbad, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:54, said: Let's see.
http://forum.worldof...ars-event-poll/
Link on message: #3534836

http://forum.worldof...ars-event-poll/
Yoott: LOL lets count the clans that are represented... when
the vote is done... see if its more then 76 ... as that would
represent every clan that held land at the end of CW.....
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534799
Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:42, said: You mean those 10-12 clans that pretty much only do clan wars, yea
how DARE they be vocal about WG screwing them over...
Link on message: #3534799

Yoott: Why were you scared to leave this on your post?.......
76 clans owned land on map close ... thats alot more then 12... so... again not everyone....
cant really argue on that math......
76 clans owned land on map close ... thats alot more then 12... so... again not everyone....
cant really argue on that math......
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534791
Garbad, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:41, said: Go to clan discussion and make a poll. I would, but the
devs would delete it within minutes because we all know what the
results would be.
Link on message: #3534791

Yoott: Dont have to go count the clans here crying I bet its less then 20
clans ..... which is not EVERYONE ...
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534756
Garbad, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:38, said: Vocal minority? Are you delusional? This is as close to unanimous
as it gets -- regardless of if the tiny, vocal minority of your
platoon thought it was cool. The only people defending the actions
are literally the devs themselves.
Link on message: #3534756

Yoott: umm no wrong again.... My guess is about 10 -12 clans and their
members are complaining very vocally....
that again is not Unanimous... or EVERYONE....
that again is not Unanimous... or EVERYONE....
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534755
Striker_002, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:33, said: My god a lot of people are dense.
General Direction, other wargaming employees viewing this thread, I hope you recognize the complainers are a very vocal minority. When me and my team heard of this event we simply said "That sounds cool!". Playing tier 10s all the time in clanwars made me bored and I quit to play the more interesting skirmishes and challenges.
Let us have this week or so change of pace, then the complainers can go back to there tier 10's all the time against the same teams.
I completely don't buy the sealclubbing argument. It's their choice if they want to play clan wars or not. They don't have to enter the ring with mike tyson if they don't want to.
Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:35, said: I really want the Neg button back
Link on message: #3534755

General Direction, other wargaming employees viewing this thread, I hope you recognize the complainers are a very vocal minority. When me and my team heard of this event we simply said "That sounds cool!". Playing tier 10s all the time in clanwars made me bored and I quit to play the more interesting skirmishes and challenges.
Let us have this week or so change of pace, then the complainers can go back to there tier 10's all the time against the same teams.
I completely don't buy the sealclubbing argument. It's their choice if they want to play clan wars or not. They don't have to enter the ring with mike tyson if they don't want to.
Yoott: ^^^ This

Yoott: I know I could use one for you right now.....
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534701
Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:26, said: Have you ever taken part in a CW landing zone ??
You know on the Russian server some LZ battles last for about 15 hours because of the number of clans applying for it , so lets do the math
4 LZ's ALL the African and european clans applying for those 4.....how long you think that is going to take ?? in a WEEKDAY
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You know on the Russian server some LZ battles last for about 15 hours because of the number of clans applying for it , so lets do the math
4 LZ's ALL the African and european clans applying for those 4.....how long you think that is going to take ?? in a WEEKDAY
Yoott: But you dont sit for hours.. there is a cap here of 64 teams ...
prime comes.. battles tart EVERY team plays every 30 minutes until
they lose or win... how is anyone SITTING for hours...
3 hours +/- entire LZ done
3 hours +/- entire LZ done
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534668
Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:22, said: Who said Ban people ?, like I said, please read before you reply
Link on message: #3534668

Yoott: UMM maybe you can read... DISTANT SAID IT not you .. I QUOTED
HIM...
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534664
Robbyx, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:10, said: How will sitting in a queue for hours to get stomped by one of the
pro clans in 3 minutes flat gonna be fun for anyone ?
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Yoott: Que for hours... have you played CW at all? Do you know how the
landing system works? ...... Stop being elitist and go learn...
then come back when your informed how it works...
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534656
Diastant, on Jan 20 2013 - 18:04, said: These ideas may sound great to good players, but realize that WG is
never going to do this. #4 is plausible, I guess.
As for #5, not going to happen. It would make WG lose a bit of money. Some players are simply too lazy to grind their way up to higher tiers.
Link on message: #3534656

As for #5, not going to happen. It would make WG lose a bit of money. Some players are simply too lazy to grind their way up to higher tiers.
Yoott: WOW ban people .... who dont play well..... No Elitist much...
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534520
MadBadger, on Jan 20 2013 - 17:43, said: My clan is not normally ranked in the 'uber' groups (even though we
are actually apocalyptically uber, we prefer to lurk in the
background until the Return of the King). But we all have plenty of
tier 10s and can field quite a force when we need to.
That being said, there's a lot of fun and interesting "how are we gonna fight this out in tier 3's?" bull sessions going on right now. We're looking at resurrecting long-unused tanks or trying to convince the others that our fave little tier 3 doomtank is THE machine to be running.
It is a nice break from the seriousness and repetition of the tier 10's we were running before. It will also allow clans who DON'T carry several teir 10's each to participate, at least for a while, in CW in a fresh setting and see what the fuss is all about.
It's a game, it's something different, it's for fun, it's not forever. Maybe you should give it a shot before crying doom and gloom.
Badger
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That being said, there's a lot of fun and interesting "how are we gonna fight this out in tier 3's?" bull sessions going on right now. We're looking at resurrecting long-unused tanks or trying to convince the others that our fave little tier 3 doomtank is THE machine to be running.
It is a nice break from the seriousness and repetition of the tier 10's we were running before. It will also allow clans who DON'T carry several teir 10's each to participate, at least for a while, in CW in a fresh setting and see what the fuss is all about.
It's a game, it's something different, it's for fun, it's not forever. Maybe you should give it a shot before crying doom and gloom.

Yoott: ^^^^^^^ This
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534441
9nines, on Jan 20 2013 - 17:09, said: Everyone of my guys switched our crews from prems to our t3s last
night readying for cw.Lets all show these noobs who cry about low
tiers how nice it is to not fight us daily!!!
Link on message: #3534441

Yoott: lets battle ..... :-)
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534374
Captain_Howdy, on Jan 20 2013 - 16:55, said: I thought the intent was to get our higher level brethren to do
their wars in lesser tanks for a bit...not give the scrubs a chance
to take land.
I mean cmon....once some of the guys from *insert european land holding clan name here* get in their tanks it will be like Mike Tyson against a crowd of 14 year olds. Same thing will happen, just faster.
Personally I'd love to see a few vids of Unicums slaughtering folks in Tier 3s.
Chi-ha anyone?
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I mean cmon....once some of the guys from *insert european land holding clan name here* get in their tanks it will be like Mike Tyson against a crowd of 14 year olds. Same thing will happen, just faster.
Personally I'd love to see a few vids of Unicums slaughtering folks in Tier 3s.
Chi-ha anyone?
Yoott: Again... SO?.... My feeling from all Ive gathered reading the
whining and crying for 2 days is some of the bigger clans are
scared they may lose 1 or 2 battles to some of these "BAD" clans
.... maybe on nothing but luck......but still teh chance is more
there as you dont know you enemies as well as the top 20 clans you
have been battling for years........
Also all you "superior clans as you claim" all seem to be caring about how the "bads" are going to feel losing in the event.. but my feeling is the reality is ... how bad "YOU" would feel if you lost to a "BAD"... and thats the scary part it seems here.....
Let everyone play... you elite clans are so good... you should end up right where you would have if it was all tier 10's anyways......but maybe you wont... and then you will blame this or blame that or blame RNG... or blame lag..... but you still will have lose.... I expect to see everyone of your clans on land..... since your so sure you will STOMP everyone else...
Also all you "superior clans as you claim" all seem to be caring about how the "bads" are going to feel losing in the event.. but my feeling is the reality is ... how bad "YOU" would feel if you lost to a "BAD"... and thats the scary part it seems here.....
Let everyone play... you elite clans are so good... you should end up right where you would have if it was all tier 10's anyways......but maybe you wont... and then you will blame this or blame that or blame RNG... or blame lag..... but you still will have lose.... I expect to see everyone of your clans on land..... since your so sure you will STOMP everyone else...
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534348
ViniZaoD, on Jan 20 2013 - 16:54, said: It doesn't do anything to me. I'm saying that many of these
badclans will go byebye from the "fun" of getting annihalated
nightly by opponents that know what they're doing.
Link on message: #3534348

Yoott: I honestly dont think people will lose the "fun" as much as you
think.... My guys LOVE the fact that they can see G, Forge and
others in TC's... get our butts kicked sure but playing
better teams lets you work on better skills by seeing what you need
to become to win of course thats if leadership uses it right.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534256
ViniZaoD, on Jan 20 2013 - 16:41, said: that's cute the bads +1'd general direction's posts
0-15 over and over is a horrible clan breaking feeling and if you don't agree you are nowhere near competitive enough to even get near the quarterfinal of one of these landings
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0-15 over and over is a horrible clan breaking feeling and if you don't agree you are nowhere near competitive enough to even get near the quarterfinal of one of these landings
Yoott: SO... your point?...... maybe every team BUT YOU loses 15-0......
AND..... this destroys your life and ego how?......
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3534245
Dayus, on Jan 20 2013 - 11:30, said: They will lose so bad they likely won't even know what went wrong.
mid level clans can learn from the top tier as they can usually put
up a fight, but low level clans have trouble often learning strats
in the first place, pitting them vs the best won't help them much
besides as an example of how doing stuff right kills them
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Yoott: SO LET THEM LOSE ... stop being so egotistical holier then thou and
come down off your high horse.... who cares if clans win or
lose...... its a game.... play the game..... let everyone play
it... for christ sakes its 10 days.....
Not for nothing your all claiming that these supposedly "bad" teams are going to get run over ... but the funny part is the only ones whining about it are you........ let them play... win,lose,draw... its a game...
Not for nothing your all claiming that these supposedly "bad" teams are going to get run over ... but the funny part is the only ones whining about it are you........ let them play... win,lose,draw... its a game...
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3533886
Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 13:14, said: First tyvm for coming back
If you want more clans in Clan wars then here is a few idea's
1 : Drop the stupid tier 3 part
2 : Open up more then 4 LZ ( cause you know damn well the bad clans are going to get stomped )
3 : Open up the entire map at the START ( for the life of me I cannot work out what moron thought this would be a good idea )
4 : Make it so you have to pass a " driving " test before moving up in tiers ( Garbad had a VERY good idea ), this will help ALL aspects of the game, not just clan wars
5 : Make it so if you have less then 1k games you cannot buy a tier 8 premium ( so they need to learn how to play, and as such players get better )
6 : Make it so clans need at least 30 chips before they can own land
7 : LISTEN to the player base on PLAYS clan wars
And this is just off the top of my head, its not that hard to work out
Hell if WG needs someone to come up with idea's im happen to help more for a little gold every week...
Link on message: #3533886

If you want more clans in Clan wars then here is a few idea's
1 : Drop the stupid tier 3 part
2 : Open up more then 4 LZ ( cause you know damn well the bad clans are going to get stomped )
3 : Open up the entire map at the START ( for the life of me I cannot work out what moron thought this would be a good idea )
4 : Make it so you have to pass a " driving " test before moving up in tiers ( Garbad had a VERY good idea ), this will help ALL aspects of the game, not just clan wars
5 : Make it so if you have less then 1k games you cannot buy a tier 8 premium ( so they need to learn how to play, and as such players get better )
6 : Make it so clans need at least 30 chips before they can own land
7 : LISTEN to the player base on PLAYS clan wars
And this is just off the top of my head, its not that hard to work out
Hell if WG needs someone to come up with idea's im happen to help more for a little gold every week...
GeneralDirection: I disappeared because I'm exhausted after a week in Paris...
nothing more.
I'm not going to run and hide
because players don't like something we've announced; that would be
a disservice to Wargaming as well as you. If something needs to
change then it will, and I'll make sure to be as involved as
possible.

Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3533886
Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 13:14, said: First tyvm for coming back
If you want more clans in Clan wars then here is a few idea's
1 : Drop the stupid tier 3 part
2 : Open up more then 4 LZ ( cause you know damn well the bad clans are going to get stomped )
3 : Open up the entire map at the START ( for the life of me I cannot work out what moron thought this would be a good idea )
4 : Make it so you have to pass a " driving " test before moving up in tiers ( Garbad had a VERY good idea ), this will help ALL aspects of the game, not just clan wars
5 : Make it so if you have less then 1k games you cannot buy a tier 8 premium ( so they need to learn how to play, and as such players get better )
6 : Make it so clans need at least 30 chips before they can own land
7 : LISTEN to the player base on PLAYS clan wars
And this is just off the top of my head, its not that hard to work out
Hell if WG needs someone to come up with idea's im happen to help more for a little gold every week...
Link on message: #3533886

If you want more clans in Clan wars then here is a few idea's
1 : Drop the stupid tier 3 part
2 : Open up more then 4 LZ ( cause you know damn well the bad clans are going to get stomped )
3 : Open up the entire map at the START ( for the life of me I cannot work out what moron thought this would be a good idea )
4 : Make it so you have to pass a " driving " test before moving up in tiers ( Garbad had a VERY good idea ), this will help ALL aspects of the game, not just clan wars
5 : Make it so if you have less then 1k games you cannot buy a tier 8 premium ( so they need to learn how to play, and as such players get better )
6 : Make it so clans need at least 30 chips before they can own land
7 : LISTEN to the player base on PLAYS clan wars
And this is just off the top of my head, its not that hard to work out
Hell if WG needs someone to come up with idea's im happen to help more for a little gold every week...
GeneralDirection: I disappeared because I'm exhausted after a week in Paris...
nothing more.
I'm not going to run and hide
because players don't like something we've announced; that would be
a disservice to Wargaming as well as you. If something needs to
change then it will, and I'll make sure to be as involved as
possible.

Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3533886
Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 13:14, said: First tyvm for coming back
If you want more clans in Clan wars then here is a few idea's
1 : Drop the stupid tier 3 part
2 : Open up more then 4 LZ ( cause you know damn well the bad clans are going to get stomped )
3 : Open up the entire map at the START ( for the life of me I cannot work out what moron thought this would be a good idea )
4 : Make it so you have to pass a " driving " test before moving up in tiers ( Garbad had a VERY good idea ), this will help ALL aspects of the game, not just clan wars
5 : Make it so if you have less then 1k games you cannot buy a tier 8 premium ( so they need to learn how to play, and as such players get better )
6 : Make it so clans need at least 30 chips before they can own land
7 : LISTEN to the player base on PLAYS clan wars
And this is just off the top of my head, its not that hard to work out
Hell if WG needs someone to come up with idea's im happen to help more for a little gold every week...
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If you want more clans in Clan wars then here is a few idea's
1 : Drop the stupid tier 3 part
2 : Open up more then 4 LZ ( cause you know damn well the bad clans are going to get stomped )
3 : Open up the entire map at the START ( for the life of me I cannot work out what moron thought this would be a good idea )
4 : Make it so you have to pass a " driving " test before moving up in tiers ( Garbad had a VERY good idea ), this will help ALL aspects of the game, not just clan wars
5 : Make it so if you have less then 1k games you cannot buy a tier 8 premium ( so they need to learn how to play, and as such players get better )
6 : Make it so clans need at least 30 chips before they can own land
7 : LISTEN to the player base on PLAYS clan wars
And this is just off the top of my head, its not that hard to work out
Hell if WG needs someone to come up with idea's im happen to help more for a little gold every week...
GeneralDirection: I disappeared because I'm exhausted after a week in Paris...
nothing more.
I'm not going to run and hide
because players don't like something we've announced; that would be
a disservice to Wargaming as well as you. If something needs to
change then it will, and I'll make sure to be as involved as
possible.

Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 12:34, said: WG if you want to make clan wars more " fair ", here is an idea.
Make the skill level of those BAD clans come up, rather then trying
to force the GOOD clans down to there level. Good clans are good
for a reason, its because they have good players....
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GeneralDirection: Of course. We are working on mid-level content for clans to learn a
bit about clan wars before having to jump on the map.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 12:34, said: WG if you want to make clan wars more " fair ", here is an idea.
Make the skill level of those BAD clans come up, rather then trying
to force the GOOD clans down to there level. Good clans are good
for a reason, its because they have good players....
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GeneralDirection: Of course. We are working on mid-level content for clans to learn a
bit about clan wars before having to jump on the map.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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Tolos, on Jan 20 2013 - 12:34, said: WG if you want to make clan wars more " fair ", here is an idea.
Make the skill level of those BAD clans come up, rather then trying
to force the GOOD clans down to there level. Good clans are good
for a reason, its because they have good players....
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GeneralDirection: Of course. We are working on mid-level content for clans to learn a
bit about clan wars before having to jump on the map.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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cap3127, on Jan 20 2013 - 12:22, said: Putting them up against -G- and HAVOK and related clans isn't
really giving them a chance. I very highly doubt that
any new clan made up of newer players could EVER win against them.
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GeneralDirection: So I guess we should scrap eSports tournaments and just invite
River of Blood, SIMP, Fulcrum Gaming and Banned Angels to a
four-team event every weekend?
The best way to learn is to lose against the best players. You may not win today, you may not win tomorrow; heck you may not win next month. But you'll still learn something if you're serious about being competitive.
The best way to learn is to lose against the best players. You may not win today, you may not win tomorrow; heck you may not win next month. But you'll still learn something if you're serious about being competitive.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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cap3127, on Jan 20 2013 - 12:22, said: Putting them up against -G- and HAVOK and related clans isn't
really giving them a chance. I very highly doubt that
any new clan made up of newer players could EVER win against them.
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GeneralDirection: So I guess we should scrap eSports tournaments and just invite
River of Blood, SIMP, Fulcrum Gaming and Banned Angels to a
four-team event every weekend?
The best way to learn is to lose against the best players. You may not win today, you may not win tomorrow; heck you may not win next month. But you'll still learn something if you're serious about being competitive.
The best way to learn is to lose against the best players. You may not win today, you may not win tomorrow; heck you may not win next month. But you'll still learn something if you're serious about being competitive.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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cap3127, on Jan 20 2013 - 12:22, said: Putting them up against -G- and HAVOK and related clans isn't
really giving them a chance. I very highly doubt that
any new clan made up of newer players could EVER win against them.
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GeneralDirection: So I guess we should scrap eSports tournaments and just invite
River of Blood, SIMP, Fulcrum Gaming and Banned Angels to a
four-team event every weekend?
The best way to learn is to lose against the best players. You may not win today, you may not win tomorrow; heck you may not win next month. But you'll still learn something if you're serious about being competitive.
The best way to learn is to lose against the best players. You may not win today, you may not win tomorrow; heck you may not win next month. But you'll still learn something if you're serious about being competitive.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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ViniZaoD, on Jan 20 2013 - 10:06, said: didnt address the point. these badclans are in for a world of 15-0
suffering.
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GeneralDirection: But they have a chance. The first step to increasing competition is
to give someone a chance.
They can't learn otherwise.
They can't learn otherwise.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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ViniZaoD, on Jan 20 2013 - 10:06, said: didnt address the point. these badclans are in for a world of 15-0
suffering.
Link on message: #3533506

GeneralDirection: But they have a chance. The first step to increasing competition is
to give someone a chance.
They can't learn otherwise.
They can't learn otherwise.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
Link on message: #3533506
ViniZaoD, on Jan 20 2013 - 10:06, said: didnt address the point. these badclans are in for a world of 15-0
suffering.
Link on message: #3533506

GeneralDirection: But they have a chance. The first step to increasing competition is
to give someone a chance.
They can't learn otherwise.
They can't learn otherwise.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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Allurai, on Jan 19 2013 - 05:45, said: Lower tiers will help new players get into clan wars!
By putting them up against the G, and FORGE, and the Burning Legion etc - you will NEVER see those players want to play in CW again. Yay! Mission accom.... WAIT A MINUTE.
What Wargaming things is a good idea, is a terrible idea. Who thinks this crap up? General Direction, this better not be your doing!
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By putting them up against the G, and FORGE, and the Burning Legion etc - you will NEVER see those players want to play in CW again. Yay! Mission accom.... WAIT A MINUTE.
What Wargaming things is a good idea, is a terrible idea. Who thinks this crap up? General Direction, this better not be your doing!
GeneralDirection: Allurai, I expected more from you. Focus less on hyperbole (you're
good at hyperbole, by the way) and more on issues the community is
concerned with.
Just to be clear, your clan does not equal 'the community'. Especially not the folks who feel the need to insult players on alt accounts because they'd done something offensive enough to get hit with an RO.
Just to be clear, your clan does not equal 'the community'. Especially not the folks who feel the need to insult players on alt accounts because they'd done something offensive enough to get hit with an RO.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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Allurai, on Jan 19 2013 - 05:45, said: Lower tiers will help new players get into clan wars!
By putting them up against the G, and FORGE, and the Burning Legion etc - you will NEVER see those players want to play in CW again. Yay! Mission accom.... WAIT A MINUTE.
What Wargaming things is a good idea, is a terrible idea. Who thinks this crap up? General Direction, this better not be your doing!
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By putting them up against the G, and FORGE, and the Burning Legion etc - you will NEVER see those players want to play in CW again. Yay! Mission accom.... WAIT A MINUTE.
What Wargaming things is a good idea, is a terrible idea. Who thinks this crap up? General Direction, this better not be your doing!
GeneralDirection: Allurai, I expected more from you. Focus less on hyperbole (you're
good at hyperbole, by the way) and more on issues the community is
concerned with.
Just to be clear, your clan does not equal 'the community'. Especially not the folks who feel the need to insult players on alt accounts because they'd done something offensive enough to get hit with an RO.
Just to be clear, your clan does not equal 'the community'. Especially not the folks who feel the need to insult players on alt accounts because they'd done something offensive enough to get hit with an RO.
Subject: CW changes won't help most clans & Boycott gold purchase
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Allurai, on Jan 19 2013 - 05:45, said: Lower tiers will help new players get into clan wars!
By putting them up against the G, and FORGE, and the Burning Legion etc - you will NEVER see those players want to play in CW again. Yay! Mission accom.... WAIT A MINUTE.
What Wargaming things is a good idea, is a terrible idea. Who thinks this crap up? General Direction, this better not be your doing!
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By putting them up against the G, and FORGE, and the Burning Legion etc - you will NEVER see those players want to play in CW again. Yay! Mission accom.... WAIT A MINUTE.
What Wargaming things is a good idea, is a terrible idea. Who thinks this crap up? General Direction, this better not be your doing!
GeneralDirection: Allurai, I expected more from you. Focus less on hyperbole (you're
good at hyperbole, by the way) and more on issues the community is
concerned with.
Just to be clear, your clan does not equal 'the community'. Especially not the folks who feel the need to insult players on alt accounts because they'd done something offensive enough to get hit with an RO.
Just to be clear, your clan does not equal 'the community'. Especially not the folks who feel the need to insult players on alt accounts because they'd done something offensive enough to get hit with an RO.
Subject: Wargaming Weekly: January 18th
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Heatofpowers, on Jan 19 2013 - 04:01, said: I didnt get an email but i played alot more than 5 tier 10 games
-.-
AMartin223, on Jan 19 2013 - 04:03, said: This... Is the confirmation e-mail supposed to come before the
22nd, or do both e-mails come that day?
dhellfox, on Jan 19 2013 - 05:53, said: im still waiting for my email too....
coat1, on Jan 19 2013 - 06:07, said: Yup me as well
OOPMan, on Jan 19 2013 - 17:55, said: I figured :-)
Looking forward to mine ;-)
Wii624, on Jan 19 2013 - 19:04, said: Ok i'm apparently incapable of finding the reply button, but it was
said earlier in the month that the e-mail notification would be
sent out "By the 22nd" and here they say it will be sent out "On
the 22nd"? Confusing! I thought they had forgotten to send me one
:P
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Subject: Wargaming Weekly: January 18th
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Heatofpowers, on Jan 19 2013 - 04:01, said: I didnt get an email but i played alot more than 5 tier 10 games
-.-
AMartin223, on Jan 19 2013 - 04:03, said: This... Is the confirmation e-mail supposed to come before the
22nd, or do both e-mails come that day?
dhellfox, on Jan 19 2013 - 05:53, said: im still waiting for my email too....
coat1, on Jan 19 2013 - 06:07, said: Yup me as well
OOPMan, on Jan 19 2013 - 17:55, said: I figured :-)
Looking forward to mine ;-)
Wii624, on Jan 19 2013 - 19:04, said: Ok i'm apparently incapable of finding the reply button, but it was
said earlier in the month that the e-mail notification would be
sent out "By the 22nd" and here they say it will be sent out "On
the 22nd"? Confusing! I thought they had forgotten to send me one
:P
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Subject: Wargaming Weekly: January 18th
Link on message: #3532224
Heatofpowers, on Jan 19 2013 - 04:01, said: I didnt get an email but i played alot more than 5 tier 10 games
-.-
AMartin223, on Jan 19 2013 - 04:03, said: This... Is the confirmation e-mail supposed to come before the
22nd, or do both e-mails come that day?
dhellfox, on Jan 19 2013 - 05:53, said: im still waiting for my email too....
coat1, on Jan 19 2013 - 06:07, said: Yup me as well
OOPMan, on Jan 19 2013 - 17:55, said: I figured :-)
Looking forward to mine ;-)
Wii624, on Jan 19 2013 - 19:04, said: Ok i'm apparently incapable of finding the reply button, but it was
said earlier in the month that the e-mail notification would be
sent out "By the 22nd" and here they say it will be sent out "On
the 22nd"? Confusing! I thought they had forgotten to send me one
:P
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Bye-bye Serene Coast and Dragon Ridge, welcome back Swamp and Komarin
20.01.2013 06:34:05
Subject: Bye-bye Serene Coast and Dragon Ridge, welcome back Swamp and Komarin
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ITDUDE, on Jan 19 2013 - 17:02, said: Latest from Storm:
-In 8.4, Dragon Ridge and Serene Coast maps will be removed from random game mode
-Swamp and Komarin will be reworked visually and for better gameplay and will be returned (ITDUDE: Storm didn't specify when, but I am guessing 8.4 as well)
Personal opinion
- Dragon Ridge, like it, hope it's not gone for too long
- Serene Coast, ok map, don't care either way. Remove bunch of buildings and camping rocks and the map will be just fine.
- Swamp, ok map, not sure why it was removed (probably too many draws)
- Komarin, loved it, glad to see it is coming back
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-In 8.4, Dragon Ridge and Serene Coast maps will be removed from random game mode
-Swamp and Komarin will be reworked visually and for better gameplay and will be returned (ITDUDE: Storm didn't specify when, but I am guessing 8.4 as well)
Personal opinion
- Dragon Ridge, like it, hope it's not gone for too long
- Serene Coast, ok map, don't care either way. Remove bunch of buildings and camping rocks and the map will be just fine.
- Swamp, ok map, not sure why it was removed (probably too many draws)
- Komarin, loved it, glad to see it is coming back
GeneralDirection: Swamp and Komarin are not coming back in 8.4. I believe one is
scheduled for 8.5, though (no access to confirm which at the
moment).
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