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Kayi4ek
Maďarský Panzer: Turán III Prototípus
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21.02.2019 18:55:54
 
Subject: Maďarský Panzer: Turán III Prototípus
Link on message: #16672643

Kayi4ek: Ahoj všem!   Děkuji za zpěntou vazbu. Osvěžím developerům paměť o nedostatku munice ;)


Delhroh
Comunidad española WoT 2018: Sugerencias
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21.02.2019 18:50:56
 
Subject: Comunidad española WoT 2018: Sugerencias
Link on message: #16672629

Delhroh: Saludos, Esta vez os dejo este hilo abierto para recoger vuestras sugerencias sobre la comunidad española. ¿Qué tipo de actividades os gustaría que preparara el staff junto con los contributors? ¿O solo para clanes? ¿Sugerencias?


Delhroh
El KV-5 regresa a la tienda premium
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21.02.2019 18:50:01
 
Subject: El KV-5 regresa a la tienda premium
Link on message: #16672625

Delhroh: Pues eso, un tanque emblemáticamente.... ¿Bueno? ¿Malo? ¿Opiniones? ¡Os presentamos el KV-5, un carro con un gran DPM y posibilidades de uso para embestir! 

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Delhroh
[HOT TOPIC] Empieza el reto sobre ruedas
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21.02.2019 18:48:53
 
Subject: [HOT TOPIC] Empieza el reto sobre ruedas
Link on message: #16672621

Delhroh: HOT TOPIC de la semana. Necesito vuestra opinión de la siguiente forma: Positivo: Lo que os gusta sobre el reto sobre ruedas Negativo: Lo que NO os gusta. Sugerencias: Lo que os gustaría ver o no ver en los próximos desafíos. ¡Gracias! Lanzaos a por un explorador de ruedas único, el Panhard EBR 75 premium de nivel VIII. 

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Delhroh
La tripulación es crucicial: triple de experiencia para la tripulación
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21.02.2019 18:46:45
 
Subject: La tripulación es crucicial: triple de experiencia para la tripulación
Link on message: #16672611

Delhroh: Nuevo especial dedicado a la tripulación. Espero vuestros comentarios :)  Vuelve "La tripulación es crucial", con jugosos descuentos y bonificaciones.

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Delhroh
Bienvenidos a Zona Segura
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21.02.2019 18:45:22
 
Subject: Bienvenidos a Zona Segura
Link on message: #16672609

Delhroh: Bienvenidos a los nuevos :)


parim1331
Aktualizacja 1.4 - Dyskusja ogólna
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21.02.2019 18:18:46
 
Subject: Aktualizacja 1.4 - Dyskusja ogólna
Link on message: #16672508

View PostWietrznianin, on 21 February 2019 - 02:18 PM, said: Bez tytułu1.pngNowy maraton -nowe zasady Patrol usuń wpis ,jak ostatnie ,bo jest nie wygodny więc do dzieła,

parim1331:   Jeżeli mógłbyś się wtrącić, to w gwoli wyjaśnienia powiem, że _Patrol, nie jest ani moderatorem, ani pracownikiem Wargaming.net, co za tym idzie nie może usuwać postów z tego forum.


eekeeboo
The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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21.02.2019 18:12:29
 
Subject: The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
Link on message: #16672488

View PostZmago5000, on 21 February 2019 - 03:59 PM, said: SO EEKEEBOO WHATS WITH selling directives for 50% bond price? Can you pass on that request?

eekeeboo:   I already said I pass it on, and I need to look into it more, but be aware that some of the calculation so far says the directives are free. 


eekeeboo
Soldiers of Fortune Feedback
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21.02.2019 17:59:18
 
Subject: Soldiers of Fortune Feedback
Link on message: #16672443

eekeeboo: Extended feedback time for a while to ensure you can get it in on the auction too! 


eekeeboo
The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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21.02.2019 17:58:16
 
Subject: The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
Link on message: #16672439

View PostObjec7, on 21 February 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:   'No matter what you upset someone, so you may as well do it by keeping yourself in business.', you basically say that you choose money over us because we are never fully satisfied. Of course you can say that you do that only to the point you're doing 'enough' profit but that is just bs with these greedy prices. After all it is your company which gets hurt in long-term of being greedy, so no further discussion needed about this topic.   '- - so I would suggest you actually take the time to read what I type and not what you want to read.' Maybe I exaggerated it a bit. But it's not like you never read what you wanted to read, right? 'You contest one aspect of elitism and skill checking, but not another.', there you go. I have told since the beginning that I think skilled players should be able to do this marathon without playing multiple hours every day. And with skilled people I mean around top 2% overall on EU (unicums, super unicums).   Aren't we over this already? I know WG is a company which needs to be profitable to keep on going and to be able to provide this game. :facepalm: And again, I have been saying many times that I think skilled players, those of whom has commited to the game, should be able to get the tank free without having to play +2-3 hours every day for 14 days in a row.   'My job isn't to tell you-you're right, or you know what, i'll give you everything you want because you think you're right - -' You know that this works both ways? I am not arguing to be appreciated or anything but to find the solution as these marathons are getting complained about. If you want to find one, who knows.

eekeeboo:   No that's your summary, not mine. Once again, please take the time to read what I type, not what you want to read.    The solution is as it is, the balance between monetised and incentivised to be in the middle of the road. Is it perfect for all? No that's how concession and trying to make it accessible for all works. 


eekeeboo
The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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21.02.2019 17:42:02
 
Subject: The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
Link on message: #16672384

View PostToodlePips, on 21 February 2019 - 03:33 PM, said:     Well, I was logged in, of course. I may be advanced in years when compared to the average Wot player, but I'm not yet senile ... or I'm too senile to notice :D   At any rate, it does work now. Not that I would buy the tank anyway. Even if it wasn't for the sadistic grind or the *cough* price, I simply wouldn't be interested. I have had ample time to test wheeled vehicles now, and all I can say without swearing is that they simply aren't for me.   In other news, kudos to eekeeboo for taking the time to respond even to highly critical postings. Being a CM is generally a thankless job, but please don't think your work is not appreciated. I won't disguise the fact that I'm no longer particularly well disposed towards Wargaming, but at least there's somebody in the forums to give some form of human feedback. Thumbs up.

eekeeboo:   No worries, I think there were some issues with some lag on the log-in servers, I had the issue but waited about 10 minutes ( went to ask someone why it was broken) came back and it worked :D    And thank-you! It means a lot when the moments get challenging :D I'm glad to help with your tech issue and I hope you're all set from here on! 


Jahpero
L’épreuve sur roues est lancée
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21.02.2019 17:40:35
 
Subject: L’épreuve sur roues est lancée
Link on message: #16672377

View PostQomewaon, on 21 February 2019 - 04:02 PM, said:   Et là, je tombe sur Jahpero en T100-lt dans l'équipe d'en face sur Studzianki... Il s'est fait one shot par un FV4005 au bout de même pas une minute de jeu... Visiblement, je ne suis pas le seul dans la tourmente. :trollface:

Jahpero:    sad doctor who GIF Si ca continue on va faire un sujet sur mes tops performances, à l'image de celle-ci :trollface:


eekeeboo
Chat ban joke
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21.02.2019 17:39:00
 
Subject: Chat ban joke
Link on message: #16672373

eekeeboo: Oh my... I missed this hidden on the forums! :(    Still belated boop of nope! 


Jahrakajin
Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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21.02.2019 17:38:48
 
eekeeboo
Sent inquiry to esportseu@wargaming.net, ETA for response?
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21.02.2019 17:34:03
 
Subject: Sent inquiry to esportseu@wargaming.net, ETA for response?
Link on message: #16672354

eekeeboo: IT's quite busy right now as you may know so there's no definite deadline. 


eekeeboo
Blue Teamkillers
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21.02.2019 17:32:16
 
Subject: Blue Teamkillers
Link on message: #16672350

View PostLowered, on 20 February 2019 - 08:32 PM, said:  

eekeeboo:   Basic forum rules, I get the meme, but offending people and nonconstructive are against the rules. As is discussing forum moderation so when your post is unapproved without a warning point, instead of accepting this you double down for a warning point. 


eekeeboo
Obj 257 armor explain. Help?
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21.02.2019 17:30:36
 
Subject: Obj 257 armor explain. Help?
Link on message: #16672343

View PostVenom7000, on 21 February 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:   WOW! I never thought about this as being a factor! Mindblown!
So basically the tank is just a slow, bad gun handling/inaccurate with tendency rely on a very flawed armor piece of garbage?   I knew that I should have gone with T10 and Object277 line. Having a tank whos whole thing is "armor" is weak given the power creep and gold ammo. Better have a good gun and spend less time exposed than a slow aiming tank with "good" armor.

eekeeboo:   It's more about using your speed and don't face hug tall tanks vs it being garbage etc.


eekeeboo
What’s Coming in 2019?
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21.02.2019 17:28:40
 
Subject: What’s Coming in 2019?
Link on message: #16672336

View PostWoT_RU_Doing, on 21 February 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:  

eekeeboo:   Wrong thread ;)   

View Postnevim1__FTS, on 21 February 2019 - 03:12 PM, said: esport still dead?

eekeeboo:   ​Esports is still being reworked and planned. 


eekeeboo
The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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21.02.2019 17:27:00
 
Subject: The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
Link on message: #16672327

View PostMorgan_the_Reaper, on 21 February 2019 - 02:58 PM, said: At this point you can make a choice for players who dont want the bundles or the rewards. But why raising the price of tank valued at 7000 gold to 62 euros ? With mission impossible for normal players its win-win for you because even at 70% discount a player will get garbage for gift paying almost all the price of supposed to be free marathon tank. With that ''skilled'' missions you expect the playerbase to be happy ? its better the players will spend the money for a complete game worthing 25-30 euros and then wait when you  and if you put a unbundled tank in premium  shop. From my point of view Anthem already added to cart. 

eekeeboo:   It's not raising the price of the tank, it's adding all mission rewards in the pack so you can buy the end reward without doing a single mission if you want to. You don't actually lose out on any money.    A win win, would be no discount, no chance for free ;)   

View PostGeno1isme, on 21 February 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:   Your memory is failing you again: IS-6 and SuperPershing marathons were about XP, not base-XP (which was one of the things people didn't like about it as it favored prem-account users). So the numbers aren't comparable at all.   Not that it matters much, the big differences are elsewhere: - IS-6 and SuperPershing were and still are regulary available for gold. No hypetrain involved, no fear to miss out on sth. special. - The grind was transparent: Each phase had the same requirements, they didn't grow exponentially. So it was very easy to figure out how much time one would have to invest personally. - Unlike the current variant, we only had to grind for the tank itself, not tons of extra content most of us don't care about. - We had twice the time to complete it. Even if we had to invest a similar amount of time per day on average that gave us much more flexibility.   Of course it wasn't perfect, but it felt much more like a special event designed for players rather than a sales trick.

eekeeboo:   I said like these, you had the IS6 which had high xp requirements, the Superpershing was a little different, then you had the change to skill check missions or base xp requirements. Someone asked for the old mission style sets, there's the link. People complained then that they were too hard, took too long, no way to skip, no way to pay to skip etc.    It was highlighting that one of the suggestions was what once was and people still complained. 


eekeeboo
Best thing happen to WoT > Frontline > Larger Map > More players.
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21.02.2019 17:21:48
 
Subject: Best thing happen to WoT > Frontline > Larger Map > More players.
Link on message: #16672308

eekeeboo: Boop of Nope! You can do this constructively or not. The way you started off is not how you do it! 


eekeeboo
Wheely Wallpapers
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21.02.2019 17:12:13
 
Subject: Wheely Wallpapers
Link on message: #16672272

View Postkubawt112, on 21 February 2019 - 01:58 PM, said:   Risking a warning point here. My knowledge of UK demography is limited, but I've been told that Mr. Eekeeboo is from a part of the Isles that may not be known for great traste in the, uh, traditional sense of the word 'beautiful'.     This is hard to argue against.   Question is, do you have what it takes to become a meme - like our dear Burkatovskiy...? :)

eekeeboo:   I'm working on it! No warning point, you're entitled to your opinion, I can't force you to be right! :izmena:


Kayi4ek
Reakce na nadávky
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21.02.2019 17:09:10
 
Subject: Reakce na nadávky
Link on message: #16672257

View Postkusmasa, on 20 February 2019 - 08:55 PM, said: ani takove nadavky psane do garaze me nerozhodi  napisu mu zpatky bububu parkrat postnu fakovaka a nebo ho jeste popichuju :D

Kayi4ek:   Já vetšinou posílám svůj fórum profil a hráči se vrací s omluvou ;)


Kayi4ek
Prosím někoho z WG o vyjádření
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21.02.2019 17:08:25
 
Subject: Prosím někoho z WG o vyjádření
Link on message: #16672253

View PostSWAT0013, on 20 February 2019 - 10:39 PM, said: Nerad ti kazím iluzi, ale vážně myslíš, že když nikdo z WG neodpověděl na tak triviální otázku jako "Je stejné maskování u Skorpiona G a Skorpiona bug, nebo došlo ke změně maskování u pomalovaných a nepomalovaných vozidel?", tak se někdo bude obtěžovat odpovědět tady - zejména když třeba ty věci s mapami apod. jsou stále nepotvrzené spekulace? ;)

Kayi4ek:  

View PostSstyx, on 20 February 2019 - 10:49 PM, said: Tohle ( prémko ) ti zatím opravdu nikdo oficiálně i neoficiálně nepotvrdí, prostě si budeš muset počkat co a jak bude či nebude. Některé informace mají svůj čas prozrazení, některé se zase nechají jen obíhat komunitou, prostě záleží na tom, jaká informace to je a co ovlivní, případně aby se zjistili reakce hráčů...     Už jsi kvůli tomu myslím zakládal jedno vlákno ne? Nebo se pletu?    

Kayi4ek:   :honoring:  

View PostThe_Baal, on 20 February 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:  

Kayi4ek:   Až bude co sdílet, budeme to sdílet.  


eekeeboo
Look Who We've Caught Pants Down
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21.02.2019 17:01:35
 
Subject: Look Who We've Caught Pants Down
Link on message: #16672227

View PostMiepie, on 21 February 2019 - 12:28 PM, said:   Am I the only one whose pauper-tattooed Skorpion still hasn't been swapped for a decent one after a week? I guess I'll submit a new ticket when I get home from work.

eekeeboo:   Any person who still hasn't had it go through I suggest you submit a ticket because it may have gotten stuck if the vehicle was played during the ticket processing etc. 


eekeeboo
What’s Coming in 2019?
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21.02.2019 17:00:48
 
Subject: What’s Coming in 2019?
Link on message: #16672223

View PostP0N3T, on 21 February 2019 - 12:38 PM, said: So? When are devs going to actually fix the game add some new content (moar premium tanks are not new content)? When they are going to fix MM (make it +1, -1, finally, really, no excuse for not doing it)? When they are going to remove gold ammo? (just played like 3 battles in Pzkmf VII, E100, Maus. Gave up after those 3 battles totally disgusted with gold rain.) Some sort of influence over map choose? Fix camophlage system, (some tanks still have steath mode even after shooting, even when being like less than 50M away from you) Does any dev even read topics like this or care to do so?

eekeeboo:   In 2019, the clue is in the title. When it's rolling out it will be announced. 


eekeeboo
Soldiers of Fortune: An Update on Compensation
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21.02.2019 16:59:44
 
Subject: Soldiers of Fortune: An Update on Compensation
Link on message: #16672219

eekeeboo: Bonds will be returned I believe the lowest value for winning bid was 23k. And many people earned these through randoms. 


Zapfhan
Als nächstes Motorräder?
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21.02.2019 16:49:41
 
Subject: Als nächstes Motorräder?
Link on message: #16672187

View PostMad_Ruski, on 21 February 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:   Macht mir keine Angst   :B        

Zapfhan:    


parim1331
Uruchom tryb ostrzału w Strv S1
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21.02.2019 16:41:21
 
Subject: Uruchom tryb ostrzału w Strv S1
Link on message: #16672169

View PostMsciboj, on 21 February 2019 - 03:17 PM, said: Mod sam nakreca na wpisy bardzo odbiegajace od tematu... widac mozna.

parim1331:   Uważam, że moja wypowiedź na temat tych "konspiracyjnych teorii" nie przeszkadza w dalszym kontynuowaniu dyskusji na temat Strv S1 :)


Kayi4ek
Aktualizace pravidel férového jednání: Únor 2019
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21.02.2019 16:39:52
 
Subject: Aktualizace pravidel férového jednání: Únor 2019
Link on message: #16672164

View Postbiglebovski, on 21 February 2019 - 03:33 PM, said: Hoši, hlavně bez osočování. Nemám na to náladu, byť právě nyní jsem neskutečně naštvanej na WG, na podporu a třídenní ban za nesportovní chování, vyhodnocené automatickým systémem. Problém je, že nemám šajn, za co jsem byl tak vyhodnocenej. A pokud takhle hlídá slavnej systém i cheatery, tak se už přestávám divit, že najde prd. Mimochodem Karle, položil jsem otázku a docela rád bych znal odpověď. S dnešním banem, získává má otázka další rozměr.

Kayi4ek:   Ahoj,   úplně jsem to přehlédl, omlouvám se. Neuvažujeme o tom. Je možné, že se to v budoucnu změní a po určitém čase se týdenní bany odstraní ze systému jako například warning pointy tady na fóru.   Stahuj módy pouze z oficiálního Mod Hubu, kde je i možnost stáhnout ověřenou verzi Aslaina a budeš v pohodě. Hodne lidí píše, že používali například jen Aslaina nebo XVM, ale zapomněli zmínit Tundru a podobné. Pokud jsi čistý, nic se ti nestane.   EDIT: Dnešní ban je na základě reportů a replayů zaslaných na zákaznickou podporu, víc k tomu bohužel říct nemůžu.


eekeeboo
The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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21.02.2019 16:38:24
 
Subject: The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
Link on message: #16672159

View PostgunslingerXXX, on 21 February 2019 - 08:25 AM, said: :( sad panda over here 08:27 Added after 2 minutes So to get an actual discount you need 70% ! Come on WG.  

eekeeboo: So to get an actual discount you need 70% ! Come on WG.     Time to get grinding! :izmena: Alternatively, you could wait for a future sale of the vehicle when not in a bundle, I have no idea when that might be.   

View Postadameitas, on 21 February 2019 - 08:23 AM, said: So guys full price is 62 euro:))))  I remind you in gold tank value it is 7k:) So in general price is same as on other marathon tanks just with way way harder missions and reward is way way way (way) worse.. I think now we can clearly state that this company with this marathon lost last drops of its sanity. The greed took over.   Some facts:   In general ppl that can play lets say 2-3 hours per day max will reach max lvl 6 i think. So at the end they will be able to buy a tank for like 26 eur. In general for a full t8 light price. Guys you can get obj 432 for these money:) So thats how they now call marathon: here you go guys play hard and we will give you an opportunity to buy a new shiny light tank for a full price:)))   Since this tank is t8 he will see loads of t10 that will have like 100 meters better vr. Lol some t10 arties have same 310 vr:) in general this tank is extreme situational. Even for good players. Average players will be just free hp in it.   It is worst t8 marathon reward tank ever. He even will struggle to earn creds. Since he lacks pen and alpha and spotting damage is rewarded way less then damage.   Bc of missions like 7 and 9 at the end of marathon gameplay might become pure horror. Ppl will enter game do several shots then suicide and repeat and repeat and repeat...   All those directives, some creds and prem days are worth around 37eur. More then a tank it self. So what is it? A tank marathon or a [edited]directives marathon? Damn guys in game for 5k gold (20eur) you can get 45 personal reserves pack (15 of them are creds boosters).   By the way check Skill4ltu vid on YT. You too WG.    

eekeeboo:    I think your math is off on the value on the breakdown of the pack, mostly the bundle contents are exactly that of the mission's rewards. So you are paying to literally not bother with the missions at all if you want to, or you can wait until the discount kicks in and see how far you get. If you don't get a high enough discount for your liking, then don't buy it and wait until you can find something more to your tastes. You also assume I haven't already watched and read all the contributor content.... Usually I will see this before you do ;)   

View PostWeak_man, on 21 February 2019 - 08:40 AM, said: Let us sell these directives for half of the purchase price in bonds and it will be a thing. These are good only for unicums. For 90 % of the players are useless. Why you force us to get this things ?

eekeeboo:   They're useful for everyone, they're just not used by everyone because some don't realise they're there or choose not to use them unless they're doing a complex mission.   

View Postbadabum, on 21 February 2019 - 08:48 AM, said: No wonder you didn't post the price until last minute, this is a travesty.

eekeeboo:   It was posted at the time it was advertised to be posted ;) The delay was because the bundle contents are actually the mission reward contents too.   

View PostgunslingerXXX, on 21 February 2019 - 08:51 AM, said:   50% = 31 €. = tank + crew 60% = 25 € = tank 70% = minor discount for your troubles.  

eekeeboo:     Don't forget all the extra items...   

View PostMorgan_the_Reaper, on 21 February 2019 - 09:15 AM, said: So were are our dear friend who talk about wait to see the price ?  62 euros for this ? the tank price when it come to shop 28 euros , with all the garbage extra 62 ?  Enjoy.

eekeeboo:   I'm here but busy, I suggest you take the time to break down the value of all the contents and then consider the discount you can earn while simultanously earning the rewards for the stages as well.   

View PostTrostani, on 21 February 2019 - 09:16 AM, said: Not sure if you can't understand written texr or you are ignoring what I said - I'm not interested with prizes and whole marathon and also I will not be able to play normally due ridiculous things that happen during such events. I could buy this tank but it's not interesting for me at all. About message from WG to community in annoucment - it's marked that you can earn tank by making set of missions (it means for free). I understand that this is carrot, but WG don't understand that if carrot is to far it's not interesting.

eekeeboo:   The statement is true, you can earn it for free, it's your choice. There will be people do and people who don't. This is all on you.   

View PostZmago5000, on 21 February 2019 - 09:23 AM, said: IF i CAN GET THE PRICE -70% i ll buy it otherwise not. As others said directives are useless, if you could sell it for bonds or gold ok, but in current state they are garbage,....not even concidering paying for them,....   eekeeboo: how about directives can be sold for half price in bonds?

eekeeboo:   I'm puttig it in the feedback, but I don't know how long the answer will be.   

View PostCobra6, on 21 February 2019 - 09:34 AM, said: Wargaming, for the love of god give us the option to buy the tank as is without anything extra and then let us get additional rewards from playing the marathon!   Cobra 6

eekeeboo:   It's in the feedback, but no promises made! 


Kayi4ek
Aktualizace pravidel férového jednání: Únor 2019
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21.02.2019 16:29:17
 
Subject: Aktualizace pravidel férového jednání: Únor 2019
Link on message: #16672123

View Postpeacemaker_xD, on 21 February 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:   Proc ta kauza vnikla? jen abych to vedel take. A o tom ze mam stream 18+ a ano jsem tam sprosty .. to je ta pointa 18+. Ale proc tady resime to, jestli ja mam slunickove streamy nebo co.

Kayi4ek:   Být sprostý a urážet hráče nebo posílat lidi do Dachau je trošku něco jiného Peaci. Jen to lidem řekni sám, o co ses snažil těsne předtím, než kauza vznikla. Já jsem svoje řekl.


eekeeboo
The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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21.02.2019 16:25:01
 
Subject: The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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View PostObjec7, on 20 February 2019 - 08:30 PM, said: Well don't know about IS-6 but T25 Pilot marathon and progetto marathon were both good, not too hard even tho the Pilot marathon was propably too easy.   On this 'balanced by statistics' thing' I can't say nothing at all because I don't know what statistics you use and how many players your statistics lets to get a tank.   I don't want stuff easy, I wan't it at reasonable effort like Progetto. Don't know why you raised the requirements, it's not like many players got it for free.   You could let as much people get a tank as possible, without decreasing your income too much. Find the balance between happy players and income. I don't remember people complaining at all during Progetto marathon, and it wasn't too much easier than this one.

eekeeboo:   This is a challenge that was similar to the IS6:  https://worldoftanks...-superpershing/ It was all base xp and pure grind, little skill required with no way to pay to skip, you could buy the tank out right or suffer the grind.    And you say the Progetto was reasonable, but many still said it was too much effort, the missions based on player averages then too.   

View PostCelalaltJe, on 20 February 2019 - 08:33 PM, said: Is this time the problem of losing XP between levels, be resolved? I mean, last marathons, if u needed 200xp to complete a lvl and u got a 800xp game, u only got lvl completion and next lvl started from 0. That was frustrating and i hope u resolve it this time.   Every other mission in game take account of all the XP earned, u never lose any XP, new lvl starts with XP left after last lvl completion. Why this one has to be different ?    

eekeeboo:   I can pass this on, first person to bring it up!   

View PostBordhaw, on 20 February 2019 - 08:38 PM, said: So I can play WoT for 5+ hours per day for a couple of weeks to get this for free or I can work in real life for a few hours and just buy it...no and no.     

eekeeboo:     This is good for you, but as a company, we tailor specials, events and offers at different times to different players.   

View Postdeorum, on 20 February 2019 - 08:42 PM, said:     Ok, im gonna be totally hated for that, but... The other day i was thinking, that it would be nice for Frontline to be moneytized... i mean its a shame if i would miss the secret t9 tank (prestige 10 needed) while i have reached for example 90% progress... i really would like to be able to give 5-6€ and be over. 

eekeeboo:   Give it time and I'm sure more people will suggest it, there are many who would rather spend the money than use their time for the rewards.   

View PostObjec7, on 20 February 2019 - 08:44 PM, said: No, it should be rewarded to players who actually play the game, not just be allowed to be bought by any bob. It is frontline special and that it should stay as.

eekeeboo:   This is the reason behind things like clanwars and personal missions you can still see the complaints from that. You contest one aspect of elitism and skill checking, but not another.   

View PostMr_Deo, on 20 February 2019 - 10:25 PM, said:   Playing a game for 7+ hours a day for weeks on end should really a big warning flag in the "game" of Life.  Sure there may be some people who fall into some situation where it's normal, broken limbs in an accident, holiday cover all just happening on those weeks, waiting in jail for your trial date.  Most people (non-purps) should not grind these things to the top.   If it was just "A Game" then perhaps you could ignore it.  WG do not build these events or their pricing structure around it being just "A Game"... They build it around milking whales and idiots.   Now, I am not saying that you shouldn't play 7+ hours a day, it's a personal choice at the end of the day.  I am just saying that IF your playing 7+ hours a day with the sole intention of getting something "free" then your a idiot and should probably re-evaluate how life works.  If your playing 7+ hours a day regularly then of course push the grind, but also re-evaluate things.   But eh, that's just my view.   22:29 Added after 3 minutes   Doubtful. Think of each stage as a mission.  When a battle is done it's results are added to the mission counter, if a mission counter gets marked as done then the next mission becomes activated. They could make it work, but it's so much easier to just let it work as described.

eekeeboo:   Doubtful. Think of each stage as a mission.  When a battle is done it's results are added to the mission counter, if a mission counter gets marked as done then the next mission becomes activated. They could make it work, but it's so much easier to just let it work as described.   I'm going to politely ask you to refrain from offending people on their life choices and opinions in the manner, there are better ways to make your statement.   

View PostTungstenHitman, on 20 February 2019 - 10:49 PM, said: No thanks. Unfortunately the non-tanks of this game, aka. arty and now wheelies are negatively impacting on ACTUAL tanks gameplay beyond even my tolerance levels. Being farmed by both these classes of non-tanks while just trying to enjoy a tank game with a tank against another tank has just pushed the toxicity of gameplay into something I'm not willing to put up with and find no fun of late so what I'll do instead is quit the game, because it's a silly circus act every battle now, and check it out some other time and see if it gets back to some sort of tank vs tank game in the future, though my hunch would be the game is going doomed. Just too much gimmicks, non tank content and non tank influences in what's supposed to be a forking tank vs tank game. Gj WG, keep em coming.  

eekeeboo:   Every game ever is doomed, it's how gaming works, eventually things die :( You can watch Lion king for a clearer explanation.   

View PostFurlock, on 21 February 2019 - 06:40 AM, said: Yeah, keep pushing your wheelie agenda. Keep pushing that thing called "hey guys, you can get it for free", and then innocently (lol) break the spines at level 6 or 7... so there will be still enough to sell the wheelie.   Keep pushing, double YOU gaming.

eekeeboo:   It's not pushing for free, it's pushing play for discount, the free part is up to you. So count your dare complete, your turn, I triple dare you to try it.   

View PostTrostani, on 21 February 2019 - 07:19 AM, said: This is not only my opinion, no matter how much you will try to depreciate it, you can ask for example Parim about community feedback regarding this event. I don't really care that you are trying to sell product but when you are trying to persuade community that you are giving 'free stuff' and in the same time set conditions that much less than 1% players will be able to get it without paying - this will have consequences. And about my choices - I have premium account, I want to play but don't want to have wasted time by idiotic events like this. And it's not only about prizes - gameplay alterations will brake my game feeling. I don't have real choice right now because you are not offering suspending PA for given time. If you don't want to understand how it affect my and similar players shopping decisions in the future it's not my problem but your company.

eekeeboo:   I didn't say it was only your opinion. But a statement of "Many players state...." Where? How many, which players because you don't speak for the many, you speak for yourself for the whole time you don't provide the voice of many... and many btw doesn't mean as many people you know it would be the representative percentage of the entire player base. Even 100 players you may know if they all agreed would not count as "many".    Everything has consequnces, that goes without saying. But the consequences stated by people who usually say "Many players" usually also say "This will be the end of WoT" and those claims have been made for years.   

View PostWeak_man, on 21 February 2019 - 08:09 AM, said: So many directives in this bundle that have zero value for average players. This directives cannot be sold at least for half of the purchase price in bonds. At least that 50 % credits booster was good but now you reduce them and put this no value directives. Bad move here wg. Really bad bundle. Even with 50 % discount because of these directives the bundle is bad.

eekeeboo:   These directives are invaluable in games and if you use them you will notice a definite improvement in your game experience.         


Sael_
Che la Sfida su ruote abbia inizio!
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View PostEtjew, on 20 February 2019 - 05:23 PM, said: Questa conversazione si sta trasformando in un "tutti contro Sael" e un po' mi dispiace...

Sael_:   Nah, niente contro niente! :D Tempo fa qualcuno si arrabbiava che metto tanti smiley nelle conversazioni, il fatto è che è facile leggere un testo come più aggressivo di quanto non sia... io vengo in pace... :D E penso che il resto dei miei interlocutori non stia avendo una conversazione con me solo per fare polemica sterile! Quindi non c'è problema. :D  

View PostPatacca100, on 20 February 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:  le statistiche (di tutti i siti praticamente) NON prendono in considerazione la modalità FL, quindi i dati che prendo in considerazione sono legati esclusivamente alle random,

Sael_:   Oops, effettivamente ho detto una sciocchezza, chiedo scusa.  

View PostPatacca100, on 20 February 2019 - 05:05 PM, said: Sul progetto non devi convincere me (ci ho fatto si e no 5 partite su quel coso) ma le statistiche, e le statistiche dicono che in media esiste una differenza tra l'1 e il 2% tra la wr generale del giocatore e quella sul carro. Ma vedi, il problema è anche un altro, se tu scrivi che...

Sael_:   Io ho scritto anche altro però, ho scritto che è un carro che ha una buona caratteristica su tante che invece sono mediocri, e i giocatori hanno imparato a farla fruttare. Se lo porti nelle zone sbagliate della mappa è completamente inutile. Se sbagli i tempi dell'ingaggio coi nemici, è inutile. Se invece li azzecchi ti da' soddisfazioni. E' un carro performante, tutto qui. Se gli levi il danno alto non ha assolutamente più niente di interessante, perchè preferirlo ad altri con l'autoricaricatore? Ci sono tanti ottimi motivi per cui il Progetto sta bene come sta. :D E comunque se ci hai fatto 5 partite vuol dire, suppongo, che il suo stile di gioco non fa per te, come per tanti altri giocatori. Quindi come è che rompe il gioco scusa? "Un giocatore bravo che lo sa usare bene vince le partite" mi sembra un pessimo argomento da usare contro un carro armato. Non è lo scopo del gioco? Procurarsi un buon carro e divertircisi a bordo? Sono confusa. :D  

View PostPatacca100, on 20 February 2019 - 05:05 PM, said: L'argomento crisi è complesso (quali?), se è vero che il gioco è in fase calante è anche vero che una consistente parte della colpa è della WG...
[...] Etjew quando scrive che c'è carenza di giocatori ha ragione, perchè senza queste maratone il numero di giocatori attivi va giù di parecchio (basta andare sui siti di stats per vedere), mentre 2-3 anni fa le maratone erano meno frequenti ma il numero di giocatori era molto più stabile, questi sono dati che tutti possono vedere sui siti di statistiche, i numeri alla fine hanno sempre ragione.

Sael_:  

View PostSael_, on 20 February 2019 - 02:01 PM, said:  Il "problema", nome improprio, di WoT è che è un gioco nella propria fase di anzianità, perciò è normale che alcuni parametri declinino un po', ma non abbiamo problemi per quanto riguarda il numero medio di giocatori attivi o la popolazione del server. Qualcuno potrebbe pensarlo confrontando i numeri attuali con quelli di quando WoT era l'unico vero e proprio gioco di carri armati ed era nuovo, numeri che per forza di cose sono più grandi di quelli attuali. Tuttavia, in quanto gioco anziano, nello status in cui si trova attualmente, WoT non solo non ha problemi di giocatori, sarebbe anche lungi da uno stato di allarme anche se le cose fossero peggiori di come sono ora. Di nuovo, il punto non è che facciamo questo genere di iniziative come reazione a un problema, le facciamo per prenderci cura della nostra community (rileggete: carro dalle meccaniche nuovissime da ottenere potenzialmente gratis in ben 2 modi diversi).

Sael_:   2-3 anni fa il gioco non era nella sua fase di anzianità. :D La fase calante non è sicuramente perchè è successo qualcosa di brutto al gioco, è solo invecchiato. E comunque prima aveva anche più problemi di adesso. Un sacco di cose sono state sistemate nel tempo.  

View PostPatacca100, on 20 February 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:  il bilanciamento generale (proiettili, carri, arty), le mappe e la tendenza verso il pay to win che il gioco ha preso negli ultimi anni (ed è un fatto che non si può negare) hanno sicuramente contribuito al calo dei giocatori, senza dimenticare la mancanza di impegno nel campo degli esports, queste sono cose che io come giocatore veterano (ho giocato tante partite e sono iscritto da anni) e esperto (unicum) ho visto, compreso e sentito di più, e come me tanti altri (che giocavano con me) che hanno lasciato il gioco proprio per questi motivi.

Sael_:   La situazione del MM era peggiore prima. La situazione arty anche. Queste cose non sono perfette ma cavolo, sono migliorate. Sfortunatamente il dipartimento e-sports consumava più risorse di quanto fosse ampio il pubblico interessato. Anche ora che organizziamo ancora eventi competitivi rivolti ai clan sono in tanti a lasciarci il feedback che "dell'e-sports non ci importa". Non sto dicendo che sono d'accordo con questa opinione, sto solo facendo notare come questa mancanza di interesse di cui si sta parlando non è una conseguenza della mancanza di impegno nel campo e-sports, e tra l'altro ciò che investivamo nel dipartimento è stato solo riassegnato, non è che è svanito nel nulla.
Questa tendenza verso il pay to win, me lo dici ora che abbiamo rielaborato i proiettili speciali? E me lo dici nella discussione riguardo la sfida per ottenere gratis un carro premium dalle meccaniche nuovissime in due modi diversi? E non è nemmeno il primo che offriamo con questa dinamica. Il Progetto stesso, questo carro che ora è diventato leggendariamente rotto quando mesi fa su questa stessa piattaforma mi sentivo dire che era mediocre, è stato originariamente offerto in questo modo.
Per inciso, sempre parlando di carri italiani, già che ci siamo, il controparte nella linea a livello VIII e anche il Progetto a livello X non sono così tanto meno buoni eh. E ho anche altri esempi di carri buoni a livello VIII che non sono Premium. Sono tanti, non sono invincibili ma sono buoni. Stessa cosa si può dire per molti carri Premium. E comunque il gioco è in continua evoluzione ed il ribilanciamento dei carri è un processo infinito.  

View PostPatacca100, on 20 February 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:  Se dico che il Defender è OP, la WG lo rimuove dallo store (perchè sa che è op), tutti dicono che è op e le statistiche rispecchiano questa realtà, per poi rimetterlo in store affermando che è bilanciato (il discorso vale anche per altri carri), non è malafede, è semplice dissonanza cognitiva (per chi ci crede, per chi non ci crede ovviamente è una questione di soldi).

Sael_:   Come già spiegato qui su, il gioco è cambiato parecchio da quando abbiamo levato il Defender. Quando lo abbiamo rimesso la situazione era cambiata abbastanza da invalidare le premesse originarie. Nessuna dissonanza cognitiva da queste parti. Inoltre alcune volte la community stessa cambia idea riguardo i carri, come per il Chrysler, che originariamente creò una baraonda per quanto doveva essere forte, e ora sono tutti convinti sia un carro pessimo.   E infine, se vi dovete arrabbiare ogni volta che qualche cosa offerta dall'azienda ha la targhetta del prezzo, onestamente comincio a mandarvi gli sviluppatori a pranzo a casa ogni volta che avviate una partita, così non muoiono di fame. :P   Comunque stiamo andando un sacco off-topic. Basta parlare del Progetto e della favoleggiata mancanza di giocatori e altre cose che non c'entrano proprio niente con la sfida. :D


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Linia Frontu - zgłaszanie błędów
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View Post_Patrol, on 21 February 2019 - 03:03 PM, said: Napisałeś z sensem więc postanowiłem jednak odpisać i coś podpowiedzieć :)   Jeśli gracz gra przykładowo na rozdzielczości 800x600, to pomocny będzie temat, w którym opisałem, jak zmienić skalowanie. Sprawdzałem przed chwilą wymuszając rozdzielczość monitora 800x600. Wybrałem też oczywiście w grze taką rozdzielczość, a dokładnie edytowałem plik preferences.xml, aby taką rozdzielczość wymusić w trybie pełen ekran. Następnie w pliku preferences.xml zmieniłem skalowanie na 75% i zapisałem zmiany w pliku. Po zmianach kliknąłem na pliku prawym myszki i zaznaczyłem > tylko do odczytu, aby mieć pewność, że gra mi nie zmieni wprowadzonych zmian. Oczywiście zatwierdziłem wprowadzone zmiany klikając > zastosuj. Wbiłem do garażu i przewijanie bangla z włączonymi dwoma rzędami pojazdów na rozdzielczości 800x600 i w trybie pełen ekran.   Mam nadzieję, że w przyszłości Wargaming doda opcję skalowania w ustawieniach gry. Coś a la suwak, który będzie zmniejszał lub zwiększał skalowanie.   Do boju!

parim1331:   Podpowiem komu trzeba :)


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The Challenge on Wheels Rolls Out
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21.02.2019 16:06:35
 
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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 20 February 2019 - 06:22 PM, said:   If that is a bit about my remarsk than perhaps I wasnt clear. I dont mind the conditions, but also sometimes some time to just play the randoms, without the 'need' for these grinds would be nice. Why not give us a few weeks of nothing after the SU marathon, Christmas event, clanwars, frontline, referral program and some of those even overlap eachother. In the past we had several weeks/months without any of these grinds and I liked that way better. I do not have to get anything for free every month.

eekeeboo:   You have the choice to play for the mission or not remember. As soon as you stop providing events people complain at nothing happening whereas like x time we had all these glorious things!    Everyone was happy for long queue time for +1 mm but the number of complaints at Frontline queue was quite sizeable ;)   

View PostgunslingerXXX, on 20 February 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:   Guess we'll see tomorrow then, but you can not blame me for thinking the setup is the same as for Prosecco/AX/SU 130, so pricing&bundle method will be similar as well. Sure the non-discounted price might be adjusted because its a light tank, but still chances are pretty big the price will be roughly double that of the tank only.   Anyway, thanks again for your continued responses and activity in the thread :honoring:  

eekeeboo:   I can't blame you at all, nor do I think your feedback is pointless, but until we see exactly what's in it. (Now that I have) I can see the bundle contents are actually the exact contents that a person would earn by completing every stage, which makes sense for those who would prefer to pay and not do the missions at all.    Like I mentioned before, my personal opinions aside, my job is to communicate and I can't always have a nice time on the forums, it's only fair to be straight and truthful with you all for your support. Whether the answers are liked or not, I will still try to provide them. 


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Uruchom tryb ostrzału w Strv S1
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View PostNatural__, on 21 February 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:   Co ma zmieniać skoro fanty są cały czas te same? parim1331, to kiedy wymienicie mi tę odesłaną czapkę, na większą? Czekam już drugi tydzień! No i żeby w nocy tak nie świeciła, bo myliłem ją z lodówką...

parim1331:   Jeszcze większą?! Teraz to już chyba będzie aluminiowy namiocik. :trollface:


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Aktualizace pravidel férového jednání: Únor 2019
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View Postpeacemaker_xD, on 21 February 2019 - 12:58 AM, said:   Ahoj Kayo,

ja jsem fascinovan tim, jak si to po takove dobe vykladas. Tady ho prece nikdo nechtel trestat, jedina snaha byla zachovat cesky CC team duveryhodny a optimalne zkuseny tak aby v ocich hracu nevzbuzoval hruzu a pocit, jako by byl STBak premierem. Nic dalsiho v tom neni. 

Cely smysl petice byl ve smyslu pomyslneho "cisteho trestniho rejstriku". Prece z vezne neudelas policajta/soudce. Takze pokud by WG uznalo ze se ve vseobecnem smyslu fair-play jednalo o precin, melo by ho pouze stahnout z CC programu - zadny dalsi trest - jen si rict "ok, nehazi to dobre svetlo na nas CC team a na WG jako takove, vyresme to". Nerikej mi, ze jeho cisla na yt drzi EU pobocku nad vodou ;)

Povidacky o tajnem anticheatu - jasne chapu, nechceme k nemu pristup ale uznej, ze z pohledu mimo WG (tedy z pohledu vetsiny) to spis vypada jako ze nekdo kope nozickama kolem sebe a krici svoji pravdu. Jak tu psal cNNk - jen slibujete at Ivana nebo Ty... jediny kdo opravdu funguje ve smyslu starani se o komunitu je Styxx a to by myslim, mela byt tvoje prace spis nez jeji. 

Dalsi clownfiesta, kterou jsem postrehl byla Vanocni cistka CC teamu :D Zvlastni ze zmizeli podepsani a aktivni v teto kvetinove kauze. Predpokladam, ze to probihalo "vis, je mi to fakt lito ale musim, protoze ..." cisla? hodilo se to na mala cisla? :D doufam, ze jo, protoze Kacko jede cifry jako das, stejne tak R**y Tan***ta (N&S, muzu vubec pouzit Tvoje jmeno v osloveni?) - ten je teda pul roku neaktivni ( https://i.imgur.com/fTBxpJT.png )  ale cisla asi porad ma, kdyz muze setrvat. 

No nic, chtel jsem hlavne poukazat na to, ze si asi spatne pochopil smysl puvodni petice a tedy i chybne interpretoval zrejme nasi snahu svemu vedeni. 

peacemaker:B
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Kayi4ek:   Peaci já se s tebou nebudu dohadovat. Oba víme, proč kauza vznikla a nebudu to rozebírat. Moralizovat tady na fóru ti jde, ale v reálu (na streamech) už to tak slavné není.


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Soldiers of Fortune: An Update on Compensation
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View Post_PiNoKiO, on 21 February 2019 - 01:08 PM, said: Where is results for biding tanks?

eekeeboo:   People are starting to receive their tank and my own bonds were returned. 


Kayi4ek
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View PostMannanan, on 21 February 2019 - 02:16 PM, said: Pokud tomu tedy rozumím správně tak tvrdíš, že kvalita hráčské základny nám od posledního maratonu výrazně vzrostla a navíc teď hráči u hry v průměru tráví výrazně víc času?

Kayi4ek:   Ne, výzva je prostě a jednoduše těžší :) Nikdy jsem neřekl, že je lehká nebo že by měla být lehká. Proto kladu důraz na slovo výzva.   Nevím, jak to vysvětlit, aby to nevyznělo špatně, ale musíme pochopit, že Wargaming je společnost, která zaměstnává tisíce lidí napříč všemi kontinenty a někdo ty zaměstnance musí také živit. Pokud bychom rozdávali všechno zadarmo, hra by tu už dávno nebyla. Je rozhodnutí každého, jeslti chce do hry vložit čas nebo peníze. Já osobně jsem jako hráč volil peníze, protože jsem jich měl víc, než času. To však nic nemění na tom, že je hra pořád dostupná k hraní zdarma. (Teorie o P2W jsou upřímně k smíchu, protože lidé, kteří toto o WoT řeknou, nezažili, co to P2W znamená )   Samozřejmě jsou podobné akce jednou z možností, jak tank prodat (taky ho tam můžeme prásknout za 1500 bez jakékoliv jiné možnosti), ale zároveň chceme nabídnou těm, kteří do hry nechtějí investovat peníze, možnost získat něco zdarma a těm, kteří se nezdráhají za hru peníze utratit možnost slevy.  

View PostDaen_Rascal, on 21 February 2019 - 02:24 PM, said: " Ze zkušnosti z fóra je 31 hráčů minimálně "všichni" "   Kajko , treba mať guľky a dať anketu priamo do hry . "žmurk" "smrk"

Kayi4ek:   Byl bys hodně a nemile překvapený, protože to statistiky, které z těchto anket dostáváme dost často nekorespondují s názory tady na fóru. Většina hráčů totiž hraje hru a nechodí tam "do práce".     EDIT:

View PostKRABAT100, on 21 February 2019 - 02:30 PM, said:   Nezlob se Kájo, ale já se ptám na maraton. Výzva je přece úplně něco jiného. Ty sám jsi tu o tom dával někomu školení. Ptám se na maraton na osmičkový premium tank bez možnosti koupě. Prostě čistá akce pro hráče. 

Kayi4ek:   ​Dobře, potom je odpověď jednoduchá. Maraton nejspíš tento rok nebude. Alepoň ne o tank VIII. úrovně.


parim1331
Uruchom tryb ostrzału w Strv S1
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View Postbijaciewdomu, on 21 February 2019 - 02:30 PM, said:   Zmienił byś gadkę bo to już któryś raz czytam,chyba ze masz problem coś samodzielnie wymyślić:P

parim1331:   W tym wypadku zmiana gadki nie wchodzi w grę, tak długo jak będą pojawiać się konspiracje, tak długo bedę rzucał ripostę zawierającą tekst o aluminiowej czapeczce.


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