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LiannaSilverwind
Last-Minute Preparations to Ultimate Conquest
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19.05.2011 00:12:48
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\Last-Minute Preparations to Ultimate Conquest
Link on message: #561910

View PostSkaceKachna, on 18 May 2011 - 07:57 PM, said: Chech republic, you're kidding me

LiannaSilverwind: I've reported it to WG for fix. :Smile_honoring:


Overlord
EU Questions & Answers
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18.05.2011 23:47:38
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
Link on message: #561820

View PostZieten, on 17 May 2011 - 08:15 PM, said: Q: will the income (exp-&creditwise) of the Löwe / KV-5 stay the same or are you thinking about adjusting (i.e. nerfing) it?

Overlord: This hasn't been decided yet.

View PostOrkel2, on 17 May 2011 - 09:57 PM, said: Overlord, can we get an estimate on how quickly the 120mm shells of this french tank fire using the 6-cylinder revolver clip? I understand the exact stats are not yet known, but can you give an estimate atleast?
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Overlord: Something like 2 seconds gap between each shot with clip reloading time of 45-60 seconds.

View PostGawin, on 17 May 2011 - 11:23 PM, said: Overlord or any of the devs, can you confirm that you are going to change back the 4 degree change for the T32 and the T34? Or at least for the T34 which are considered a underperforming tank.
Cause the change have really taken the fun out of these tanks.

Overlord: Most likely it will be rolled back.

View PostStubentiger, on 18 May 2011 - 08:00 AM, said: Questions:
Has matchmaking been improved/changed with 0.6.4? If not, is generally a client update for changes to matchmaking system necessary, or can you change the matchmaker server-side "in background"?

Overlord: Nothing apart from the changes mentioned in the update notes.

View PostMarenar, on 18 May 2011 - 10:40 AM, said: When? You might not know it - but it is a VERY big deal for those of us who play US heavies..

Overlord: Either in a separate hotfix or in 6.5.

View Posttheta0123, on 18 May 2011 - 10:40 AM, said: Regarding the revolvermechanisms of the french tanks=
Will we also be able to enable standard firing and loading?(as the situation brings up)
Will be able to decide what ammo we can put in the revolver?
for example=2 AP,1 HE,2AP,1?

Overlord: 1. No, but you don't have to fire all 6/12 shells in a row.
2. No, only one type at once.

View Postian666, on 18 May 2011 - 12:49 PM, said: Well i bought large pre-order for real life money with M6A2E1 and yesterday WG nerfed his gun damage from 360 to 320, and M6A2E1 is not even close with gaining so ridiculous amount of credits like Lowe or KV-5 (while they are all same tier 8). Also i bought large pre-order knowing what stats that tank will have, so nerfing stats month after people bought pre-order is very unfair. But balancing Lowe and KV-5 rewards isnt same thing. Why? Because there is no viewable stats showing money gain, not to mention that its obvious that they are way to profitable (while M6A2E1 had same damage as T29 tier 7 tank).
I would want to ask Overlord about comment to M6A2E1 issue.

Overlord: Alpha strike reducrion for m6 was not an easy decision to take. Overall DPM increase should compensate it to some extent.
Bear in mind it's not a regular premium tank (unlike the revisled T34, but a gift one. So its profitability can be different from Lowe and KV-5.

View Postian666, on 18 May 2011 - 12:49 PM, said: Well i bought large pre-order for real life money with M6A2E1 and yesterday WG nerfed his gun damage from 360 to 320, and M6A2E1 is not even close with gaining so ridiculous amount of credits like Lowe or KV-5 (while they are all same tier 8). Also i bought large pre-order knowing what stats that tank will have, so nerfing stats month after people bought pre-order is very unfair. But balancing Lowe and KV-5 rewards isnt same thing. Why? Because there is no viewable stats showing money gain, not to mention that its obvious that they are way to profitable (while M6A2E1 had same damage as T29 tier 7 tank).
I would want to ask Overlord about comment to M6A2E1 issue.

Overlord: The accuracy, when firing several consecutve shots, will suffer and loading time will be huge.
So you will have to retreat quickly when the clip is empty.

View PostGrishy, on 18 May 2011 - 01:29 PM, said: I would like a clarification from Devs/Mods on the on-going credit earning issue. Seems to me this is caused with raising shells prices, which was not, nowhere, mentioned before.
If you look at the threads, that keeps appearing regarding this issue, you will find plenty of examples where credit gain for a good, win battle was negative, mostly due to insane shells prices.
If this is the case, the system needs to be reworked asap, as getting negative credits for a fight, when you did well and won, is simply put - wrong.

Overlord: Dont shoot the allies so as not to be penalized on credits.
There were no other related adjustments.

View PostHaenHUN, on 18 May 2011 - 04:32 PM, said: Hi Overlord!
I'd like to ask 3 questions:
1) Have you any clues about how many XP we need to research the Panther from VK3001(H) when the E-series'll be implemented to the game? I'm not interested in exact numbers but the scale of the amount of xp. Will be approx 50k like now the Tiger from VK3001(H) or will be approx 60-65k like the new KV-13 from KV-1S or from T-34-85?
2) Have you plans about expanding the combat panel during the battle, fill it with more information? For example the Overall Rating of participating players.
3) We can read a lot of stuff about mercenaries related to Clan Wars, but there are much less information about the fee of these licenses. Will it be credit (good for casual players) or gold (good for clan members who're purchasing gold anyway)?
Thanks for your answers :Smile_honoring:

Overlord: 1) No clues at this time.
2) Don't have such plans, however sounds rather reasonable.
3) This feature is still in development and will be available some time later.


Tanitha
Britannia Clan Recruiting
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18.05.2011 18:17:11
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\Britannia Clan Recruiting
Link on message: #560893

Tanitha: Replaced with updated thread. /closing


Vallter
The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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18.05.2011 17:48:37
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
Link on message: #560801

View PostMrKatana, on 18 May 2011 - 04:09 PM, said: That doesnt mean you were among first three guys... I sent some answers even faster than after one minute, and it wasnt fast enough either...

Vallter: Yes, truly, sometimes it was a matter of milliseconds


Vallter
The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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18.05.2011 17:09:27
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
Link on message: #560656

View PostMrKatana, on 18 May 2011 - 03:52 PM, said: Ahh.. sorry, I missed the last sentence of that original post, where you were telling us the number. But why nine? Why not 12, as it would make sense (4 maps times 3 fastest people). What was the pattern for 9? I know, I should be glad that you are doing this kind of stuff, which I am, but I am curious...

Vallter: The BiG 8 countries number after adding China ;)


Vallter
The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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18.05.2011 16:40:58
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
Link on message: #560521

View PostDenii, on 18 May 2011 - 03:21 PM, said: Fair enough. Extending it to all correct answers would make more customers happy and I guess you won't loose much :)

Vallter: For this we have Matryoshka quest with increased difficulty. In that contest we will award almost everyone, who will finish the quest.

View PostMrKatana, on 18 May 2011 - 03:27 PM, said: That doesnt make any sense at all. From what ammount of people and why the number you are gonna answer? And what about the Abbey? Why wasnt it recognized among right answers since there has been screenshot of cemetery on that map as proof earlier in this topic?

Vallter: Abbey was recognized as a right answer, but no such answer was in the first nine correct

View PostCaedes, on 18 May 2011 - 03:28 PM, said: Cool, I won something!
Let's do a quiz every time the server is down for a long time. :)

Vallter: We will think about it

View PostKradovech, on 18 May 2011 - 03:30 PM, said: Do you accept hotmail.com email addresses btw? I'm asking because I know some sites automatically consider hotmail addresses spam and block them.

Vallter: Yes, we do


Vallter
The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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18.05.2011 16:03:45
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
Link on message: #560381

View PostDenii, on 18 May 2011 - 03:00 PM, said: I see, tough, as I was following and replying from my phone :(
Why so many winers for q8?
Maybe the mods will be nice and extend it to all the correct answers :D

Vallter:

View PostVallter, on 17 May 2011 - 12:35 PM, said: Update: Lakeville, Murovanka and Malinovka - any combinations of these maps will be accepted. as a correct answer. Gold will be enrolled to nine user's in total for this question.
We beg our pardon for this error.

Vallter:


Vallter
The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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18.05.2011 15:44:43
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
Link on message: #560289

Vallter: The Quiz winners:

Question 1:
Fluxkom
Nazarov77
RAMJB
Question 2:
OgAmar
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Slohero
Question 3:
UnIKuL
Question 4:
Doofus
kurtan
vage
Question 5:
loco_chico
HappyTrax
ssszzzymon
Question 6:
nebsif
ssszzzymon
Vera_Bathory
Question 7:
BimBam
Caedes
SprintJack_CZ
Question 8:
QKQK
TisBACK
Skoskismoki
nebsif
BimBam
kurtan
vidakk
Jerrod
GormGolem
Question 9:
llon
Bareideru
Likatnes
Question 10:
Dr_Nooooo
Eagle18
Juha686
Question 11:
RokRoland
Juha686
Vera_Bathory
Question 12:
BimBam
Warenwolf
question 13
Jerrod
Linanel
JTS
Question 14:
Juha686
Undeadas
vage
Question 15:
Kawi
Doofus
Belkar
Question 16:
Kawi
Warenwolf
strz_Dolas_10psk
Question 17:
Jerrod
Throki
Dublin_Gunner
Question 18:
Throki
piercas2000
Kawi
Gold will be enrolled to their account within 2 weeks. (We beg our pardon for prolonging this term)


Overlord
EU Questions & Answers
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17.05.2011 20:46:33
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\EU Questions & Answers
Link on message: #557112

View PostMStinos, on 16 May 2011 - 09:49 PM, said: Overlord, as you stated a few times before, the T34 wil remain as it is till new tech tree, because stats say it does fine.
Is there any way for us to get a look at these stats? Because i bet i'm not the only one who really tries, but fails to believe this.
As it has the same gun as tier 7, same hull as tier 7 and worse turret as tier 8.
Did any one of the dev's play the american heavy tree till the end?

Overlord: T34 does look weaker than its counterparts especially if not maximized. However I doubt there would be any changes to it prior to the introduction of M103.

View PostMrCaffeLatte, on 16 May 2011 - 10:07 PM, said: Are there any plans to increase the free exp:gold ratio (to, say, 50-75:1 or so)?
Are there any plans to hold events where the free exp:gold ratio is temporarily increased (say 100:1 for 3 days or something)?
I'm assuming you are not in a position to answer my previous question regarding SPGs.
And by the way, thanks for 6.4. I'm sure it will be a great patch.

Overlord: 1. No, the current rate seems to be ok.
2. Various discounts are possible especially dedicated to a particular big date or milestone.

View PostDoctuer, on 17 May 2011 - 08:41 AM, said: It appears that the WoT dev team have elected to delete the Panther II's 105mm gun from the upcoming E-50 when it replaces the Panther II in that tier. Taking it's place will be the L100 "extra long" 88mm gun. Why have you elected to not give the E-50 a gun of signifigant alpha strike capability ? It's about the only thing (other than speed which is also not going to be the E-50's forte like it is with the Panther II) about the only thing making the Panther II competitive, and to be competitive with the T-54 you need both alpha strike (post penetration) and speed. The E-50 is much slower then the current Panther II, so far the rumored performance makes it even slower then the soon to be tier 7 Panther!
Now we will have a better armoured medium that is both slower and comes with a signifigant alpha strike reduction at tier 9 in the German medium line. This is worse overall than what we had already.
Why can the E-50 at tier 9 not have the 105mm gun, hell I'm not looking forward to being SLOWER than before with less hitting power then before ?
I would have thought it would have the 105mm as top upgrade, with the 88L100 as the middle upgrade, and the 75L100 as the "standard gun" since the 88L71 is a tier SEVEN gun and a bit of a slap in the face on a teir 9 medium competing with T-54s which exceed it in speed, armour and BOTH available guns, when compared to the 88L71.
I really want to keep giving you gold money but it's getting harder to do so in light of some of the choices I have to accept.

Overlord: It is possible that 105mm will be available, wait until the finalized module setups are announced.

View PostHaineko, on 17 May 2011 - 09:39 AM, said: Q: Will the launcher auto-update itself when the servers come back online?

Overlord: Yes, as always.

View PostKathapalt, on 17 May 2011 - 09:35 AM, said: Now when lowe & Kv-5 are introduced with a hefty 7500g price tag on them, is there any plans to increase the free exp gain with these tanks.
For example from 1000 experience mach you would get let say 20-30% as free= 200-300exp, I would like to own these things, but dont want them to be just garage ordaments.
thanks for the answers

Overlord: No, these tanks are extremely profitable in terms of credits.

View PostDigitalPsycho, on 17 May 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:
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what are this stars at ure tanks?
Mfg DP

Overlord: what are this stars at ure tanks?
Mfg DP
These are double experience markings which show that it has not been recieved yet.

View PostKathapalt, on 17 May 2011 - 11:50 AM, said: Thanks for the reply but Could you clarify a bit, Is the credit gain same as T8 pre order M6A2E1 premium tank or bigger?
If its bigger i could re-consider of bying it.
Thanks again.

Overlord: Should be higher for Lowe and KV-5, as far as i rememeber.

View PostFimp3n, on 17 May 2011 - 05:44 PM, said: So those of us that bought the heavy pre-order package to get a unique tank won't have a unique tank anymore? No thanks.
Overlord, are there any plans of adding a premium US tier 8 heavy tank, that is not the pre-order M6, for those who started playing the game after launch?

Overlord: 1. Don't get it actually. M6A2E1 won't be available for purchase from Store.
2. I don't have the exact figures at the moment, but both KV-5 and Lowe appear to be overprofitable (already saw 130+ credits income on KV-5).
Attachment KV-5.jpg

View Postian666, on 17 May 2011 - 07:16 PM, said: And it should be like that? Since on M6A2E1 people get max 78k and M6 with Lowe and KV-5 are all tier8

Overlord: Will see. The whole game economy needs to be readjusted.

View PostCanardNoir, on 17 May 2011 - 07:32 PM, said: Hi o/
T29 "hears" should have been fixed with 0.6.4 but nothing has changed. Could we have clarification please?
Thanks.

Overlord: Yes, thanks for brining it up. "Ears" are still a part of the hitbox. We will consider reworking them into "skirt" / "shield" type of the armor.


Vallter
KV-5 and Lowe for HUGE AMOUNT OF GOLD!
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17.05.2011 20:11:03
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\KV-5 and Lowe for HUGE AMOUNT OF GOLD!
Link on message: #556910

Vallter: I won't advertise this tanks further-) Those who are interested can ask about earnings owners of this vehicles


Vallter
The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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17.05.2011 20:02:29
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
Link on message: #556870

Vallter: The Quiz has ended! The results will be announced tomorrow.


Vallter
KV-5 and Lowe for HUGE AMOUNT OF GOLD!
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17.05.2011 19:47:38
 
Vallter
Server issue
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17.05.2011 19:36:28
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\Server issue
Link on message: #556751

View PostCarthoris, on 17 May 2011 - 06:15 PM, said: (And trust me, that if I try to say something like that in work - aka "Tell the customer he has his money /and his profit/ back, so what?", my ass would be flying outta the 10.floors window right away ;) )

Vallter: Starting to threat? Lack of arguments is not the point to break the rules.


Vallter
KV-5 and Lowe for HUGE AMOUNT OF GOLD!
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17.05.2011 19:32:45
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\KV-5 and Lowe for HUGE AMOUNT OF GOLD!
Link on message: #556731

View PostMilan_CZ, on 17 May 2011 - 06:05 PM, said: So, can you confirm that Löwe really earn at least 40k credits for lost battle with no kills and mainly with no penetration, no shots. I think for example when I start the battle and then I leave it after few seconds, I will not play, I will not shoot, I will do nothing. And still with all repairs I will earn 40k credits ? I think it can not be true...

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LiannaSilverwind
ZAM about WOT New Record
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17.05.2011 19:31:07
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\ZAM about WOT New Record
Link on message: #556721

View PostVincinzerei, on 17 May 2011 - 05:00 PM, said: Also i dont know about russian players, but in europe and US the players like to play not only russian tanks they want to play national teams also. and they want to do well with them. Till now most of us/them think Russian Tanks get favored. If this stays, the userbase will not really grow in eu/us..

LiannaSilverwind: Last public data I saw spoke about 60% Russian server players playing Soviet tanks and 40% Russian server players playing German tanks. US tanks were not present during that day.
Although certain vocal minority may think as you've described, let's avoid global assumptions about majority players ideas about nation balance in order to avoid popular trolling issues. Thank you very much.


admin
Armor from France (Part II)
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17.05.2011 19:26:48
 
Subject: News from the Front\Developers Blog\Armor from France (Part II)
Link on message: #556697

admin: In the first part of the article dedicated to the French Tank Tree we’ve already talked about French tanks of Interwar period and the early period of WWII. Unfortunately, misunderstanding of the new war conduct principles and excessive confidence in their own superiority (as a WWI winner) prevented the higher ranks of the French Army from taking a correct view on the armored forces role and its tactical employment. The defensive warfare doctrine was really popular among French officers. The main strategy was to involve the enemy into dragged-out battles on favorable terms using a powerful defense complex – the Maginot Line, which certainly was the echo of positional warfare methods of WWI. New concepts on armored forces employment, formulated by general Etienne and young officer Charles de Gaulle (later - the legendary General and the leader of the French Resistance). The fact that the Maginot Line was a great defensive complex, equipped using cutting-edge technologies, is beyond any doubt. It is worth mentioning that it was equipped with retractable turrets and its own subway to transport personnel and ammunition to the corresponding parts of the defensive complex. But by that time it was strategically inefficient as the main military powers of Europe had already developed and accepted new warfare methods. The mobility of troops became the key factor. As a result, a huge amount of financial resources and time were wasted, as the German already invaded Belgium, defeated the French army, flanked the Maginot Line, and proceeded relatively unobstructed. The French Army was simply unprepared to conduct mobile war actions and suffered defeat after defeat. According to the “instructions for tactical use of tanks”, dated January 24, 1929, tanks were applied in small groups separately or as infantry support. French tanks of this period had more powerful armor plating but were inferior in tactical mobility. As a result, the successful actions of some French combat units were nullified, as they eventually found themselves surrounded by the enemy forces. Of course, there were some exceptions. Thus, during the entire period of war actions the only unit, which put up resistance, was the 4th Tank Division under command of General de Gaulle. Groups of tanks up to several battalions flanked German units, which caused the delay of the German military advance for a couple of days. But the overall situation seemed hopeless – the French army was defeated, the campaign in the Western Europe was over.
So, the territory of France was occupied by the Nazi Germany for the next five years. The manufacturing facilities of the country also were at the Nazi’s disposal. Tank-building factories continued producing some types of tanks for a certain period of time or remodeled them for the purposes of the German army (some of them were reconstructed into tank destroyers, flame thrower tanks, etc.). These vehicles were supplied to the training and combat units of the German panzer troops. Some types of vehicles were delivered to the Allies of the Nazi Germany.
After the occupation of France the works on new types of tanks design and development were almost stopped. The tank park of the French army was almost completely lost in battles or captured by the German. Reconstitution of the French armored troops began in North Africa in 1943. The Free French Forces were supplied with American tanks mainly.
During the Post war period the French armored forces were also supplied mainly with American tanks (M24, M26, M46 and M47).
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As soon as France was liberated from the German occupation, the works on new types of tanks design and development were restored. So, the firm ARL (Atelier de Constructions de Rueil) began the development of new type of tank on the chassis of B1. The turret of the tank was of completely new design as well as the 75-mm long-barreled gun. By the time of the occupation its development was still in process. Interesting fact: the secret works on this tank development were continued during the occupation (the Nazi invaders couldn’t even think of it). After the liberation of Paris in 1944 a new model of tank was put into production. The first serial vehicle rolled of the production line in 1946. Taking into account the disastrous state of the French industry after 5 years of the German occupation it was a real feat. This tank immediately became a “transitive type” and got the designation ARL – 44. Initially, it was planned to manufacture 300 vehicles of this type. But only 60 were produced. All of them were supplied to 503th Tank Regiment and were first time displayed to the public during the ceremonial parade on July 14, 1951.
This tank was produced by two firms: Renault and FAMH Schneider (who supplied the turrets of new model). The suspension of the tank was outdated in the 30’s and caterpillar tracks bandaging the whole chassis came from the B1 heavy construction. This vehicle had the lowest speed performance among heavy tanks of the Post war period – 37 km/h. In contrast to the chassis, the hull and the engine were of a completely new design. For example, the armor plating of the hull was arranged at an angle 45 degrees, making its frontal armor plating equal to 170-mm vertical armor. The new turret of ARL – 44 was really innovative. But it also had its own drawbacks. The main disadvantage was poor welding. On the other hand, the manufacturing of the cast steel turret of this size and thickness of 40-mm was simply impossible. The tank has a 90-mm “Schneider” cannon mounted in the turret.
As it was previously mentioned, this tank was a “transitive type”. It is the vehicle that was supposed to push the French tank building forwards – into the new stage of development – from the Inter war period projects to the so called Post war tanks. It had elements of both old and new vehicle generations. On the whole, ARL – 44 was really far from being perfect. But the main goal of this project was not mere “weaponization” of the armored units. It aimed at reviving the French tank development after the occupation as most French engineers either died or disappeared during the occupation period.
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AMX – 12t is a “smaller brother” of the legendary AMX – 13. As you can see from the numeric designation, the project weight of the tank was 12 tons. The development of AMX 13 chassis was based on the AMX 12t project. The construction of AMX – 12t chassis had one interesting feature – the rear road wheel was functioning as idle wheel at the same time. However, this design feature led to many problems with tension of the tank tracks and was less reliable than the chassis of classic configuration. Thereafter, it was taken into account when designing the chassis for AMX – 13: the running gear got a new separate idle wheel raised above the ground and it was extended, as well as the hull of the tank. The turret mounted on this tank was a sort of predecessor of the AMX – 13 turret (however, smaller tank – smaller turret). It was also planned to equip this vehicle with automatic loading device.
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The next tank we will refer to is the legendary representative of the French tank production school – AMX 13. This vehicle exported to more than 25 countries all around the world. The tank got its numerical designation from its combat weight – 13 tons.  There were about 100 modifications, including self-propelled guns (SPG’s), self-propelled air defense systems, armored personnel carriers (APC’s) and self-propelled anti-tank guided missile complexes. AMX – 13 was designed in 1946. One of the main requirements was the lightweight of the tank, as it was supposed to be transported by air so as to use this vehicle for supporting paratroopers. The tank had a compact-type chassis with torsion-bar-type suspension and engine located along the hull of the tank to the right-hand side. The crew station of the driver mechanic was located in the front left part of the hull. The most interesting feature of AMX – 13 was its oscillating turret. The cannon was mounted in the top part of the turret. This way, only the upper part of the turret was used for the vertical direction of the gun. The turret itself was mounted on the tail part of the tank and was designed for 2 crew members: the tank commander and gunner. The 75-mm cannon mounted on this tank was designed on the base of the German 7.5 cm KwK 42 L/70 (previously mounted on Panthers). However, this cannon had a wider range of munitions with an peculiar automatic loading device of revolver cylinder type: 2 cylinders with 6 projectiles in each in the rare of the turret. Twelve projectiles in two cylinders allowed high speed shooting at the enemy. But as soon as these projectiles were shot away the vehicle had to drop back and duck for cover to reload the cylinders (from outside the tank).
AMX – 13 was launched into manufacturing at Atelier de Construction Roanne (ARE) factories in 1952. It was supplied as an operational vehicle until the 80s, but some tanks of this type are still in service in the French Army.
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AMX – 13/90 – the next modification of AMX – 13. The new model was put into service in the early 1960s. This tank had a new 90-mm cannon mounted in the oscillating turret. The gun was equipped with a muzzle brake and thermal barrel jacket. Ammunition of the cannon was reduced to 32 shots (12 of them in the cylinders of the automatic loading system), but their nomenclature was expanded:  armor-piercing, sub-caliber (APP303), shaped-charge (cumulative) (HEAT), smoke rounds.
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According to the records, there were produced only two prototypes of Batignolles-Chatillon 25t. This combat vehicle had been designed on the basis of well-known AMX-13. Increasing the hull size and armor plating allowed increasing its combat survivability. Its combat weight increased to 25 tons after some modifications were introduced into the tank design. The vehicle had got four crew members. The documents say that the max speed of the vehicle was 65 km/h.
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Medium Lorraine 40t tank. Achievements of the German and Soviet heavy tank developers (and their Tiger II, IS-2 and IS-3) in the long run inspired French tank designers. As a result, they developed a few projects. Certainly, they didn’t show records in size or weight, however, there were some very notable examples of armored vehicles. The glory of German and Soviet armor and, moreover, the firepower of these steel monsters became the idee fixe for French engineers. So, it was decided to mount the 100-mm cannon (as a first step) and a bit later 120-mm cannon. However, almost all of these new tank projects remained at the development stage or were produced in very small series. It is also known that almost all of the experimental vehicles had Maybach engines mounted. Unfortunately, the majority of French armored troops was equipped with Shermans, M-26s, M-24s and Panthers. Lorraine 40t remained at the development stage, and only two prototypes were produced. Technically, this combat vehicle was a lightweight version of the heavy tank AMX-50, but some interesting design solutions were implemented in this tank as well. In contrast to its Post war predecessors the turret of this tank was mounted on the front of the hull. Besides, this tank had one more specific feature – “pike nose” (similar to IS-3). Plus it has rubber tires for road wheels of the running gear as extra amortization.
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Heavy tank M4. The tragic events of WWII and then the occupation of France made it impossible to develop new types of tanks. Of course, there was the project of ARL-44, but it had obviously become out-of-date and lagged behind German and Soviet tanks in respect of its characteristics. In view of the above, France badly needed to develop a tank with characteristics close to that of IS and Tiger tanks. It was AMX-50.
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The first model of this tank was M4, also known as “Project 141”. This vehicle was almost a pure replica of King Tiger. If you need any proofs thereof, just have a look at this tank. The construction of chassis used small-link tracks with road wheels arranged in “checkerboard order” (8 pairs) with internal shock absorbers. It also had a torsion-bar-type suspension with hydraulic shock absorbers. Clearance could be adjusted within the range of ten centimeters. Rear transmission and crawler wheels arrangement of the transmission was the main difference of M4 if compared with King Tiger. The designers initially planned to create a 30-ton tank, but it would have cut the armor plating up to 30-mm, which was really nothing for tanks of this period. So, the rational slope angled armor was increased up to 90-mm which, in its turn, increased the weight of the vehicle. The armament of M4 consisted of a 90-mm “Schneider” cannon mounted in a classic turret (resembling the turret of King Tiger) and a 7.62-mm machine gun mounted in the front armor plate. According to the project data the crew of M4 was to consist of five members. The prototype of this tank wasn’t built as it was decided to change the turret to a new one by FAMH.
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AMX-50/100mm. After WWII France started its own heavy tank projects and, curiously enough, these projects resembled AMX-13 (which was in process of development at that moment).
AMX-50/100-mm was manufactured in two copies in 1949. Small series of AMX-50 tanks entered the troops in 1951. In comparison with the American and British analogs these combat vehicles had their own peculiar features. Their combat weight was 50 tons lighter and French firepower as well as armor protection was equivalent to their opponents. But this tank was never to become the mass vehicle due to lack of financing. This vehicle was to have the engine department in the frontal part of the hull. The turret had two crew stations: the place of the tank commander was to the left from the cannon and that of the gunner - to the right. The driver-mechanic and his assistant had their own crew stations in the driving department.
Cast steel hull of the tank was manufactured with rational angle slope of the frontal armor (thickness 110-mm) and upper side armor plates (thickness 100-mm).
If compare with M4 the running gear of AMX – 50/100mm was modified: an extra pair of road wheels was added (five external and four internal). Armor plating was increased up to 110-mm and a machine gun in the front plate was replaced with a coaxial machine gun. An independent machine gun mount (two 7.62-mm anti-aircraft machine guns) was arranged on the roof of the turret. Original oscillating turret was developed by FAMH. Initially, the vehicle had a 90-mm “Schneider” cannon, but in 1950 AMX – 50/100mm got a slightly modified turret with a 100-mm cannon. The construction of the oscillating turret consisted of two sections (upper and lower) fastened with two screw-bolts or hinges. The cannon was mounted in the upper section of the turret. Horizontal targeting of the cannon was realized in usual manner (the whole construction of the turret was rotating). However, only the upper section of the turret was moving for vertical targeting. This turret possessed two serious advantages over the typical turrets. First of all, it allowed to reduce the size of the turret without cutting the space for tankers inside. Second, the rear part of the upper section could be used for mounting of the automatic loading device. The device constituted a cylinder with 6 shells inside (like in a revolver), it had to be reloaded manually which caused some difficulties. Engineers planned to install a 1000 horsepower gasoline engine «Maybach HL 295» or a diesel engine «Saurer» of the same capacity. It allowed the tank to reach 60 km/h max speed. However the test runs of 1950-1952 proved that the maximum speed is no higher than 51 km/h.
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AMX-65t is a pre-project of Char de 65t which was being developed in 1950. It had a “checkerboard” suspension with 4 rows of rollers like in German tanks. Front armor plating of the “pike mouth” type reminds the one of IS-3. However, the angle of armor slope is smaller. Otherwise, the body of the tank looks like King’s Tiger with the same angles of armor arrangement (a kind of combination of best parts of the predecessors).  They planned the mount of a Maybach engine of 1000 h.p. capacity, which would allow the tank to speed up to 40 km/h. Anti-aircraft machine gun was installed on right of the turret roof. According to some data the tank was supposed to be equipped with a 100-mm cannon.
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АМХ-50-120mm entered the production in three versions: models of 1953, 1955 and 1958. This tank was designed as an IS-3 and T-10. In the model of 1953 the front armor plating was the same as in IS-3 (why not to copy a good design feature?!) and it was slightly thicker than the one the predecessors had. First a usual turret with a 120mm gun was mounted. Later they admitted that it was too big and inconvenient and it was replaced with an oscillating turret. Apart from that the decision to install a 20-mm coaxial automatic cannon was made. In 1955 tank armor plating was increased and the front armor plate became twice thicker. As a result the weight of the vehicle became 64 tons (in contrast to 57.8 tons previously). The ordering customers were not satisfied with the weight and in 1958 the very last model of the tank was designed. Its weight was 57.8 tons. It had a carapace with a well-rounded front armor plating. Under the condition of mounting a «Maybach HL 295» engine with 1000 h.p., the changes in the running gear were supposed to allow the tank to speed up to 65 km/h. However the engine was not very reliable and in reality the capacity was only 850 h.p. (despite the claim of the designers that it can reach the capacity of 1200 h.p.). Another serious problem was recharging of the automatic loading device cylinders. If the 10-mm shells were appropriate in weight, than the recharge of the cylinder with 6 really heavy shells 120 mm in caliber was a real trouble. The tank crew consisted of 4 members despite the vehicle had an automatic loading device. The fourth crew member officially was a radio operator whereas in fact his job was to recharge the cylinder.
To sum up we can say that when designing АMХ-50 French engineers wasted too much time. By that time the concept of a heavy tank became outdated because of the existence of hollow charge projectiles which penetrated even heavy armor plating. The project was ceased. However a lot of design concepts were used when designing the French АМХ-30.
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And a few words about mobile artillery – SPG.
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AMX 105 AM, also known as М-51. This 105-mm self-propelled howitzer became the first vehicle based on light tank AMX-13 project. The prototype was manufactured in 1950 and the first series of combat vehicles began their service in the French Army in 1952. SPG AMX-105AМ constituted a self-propelled mounting with a fixed open-top armament compartment cabin and located at the tail of the vehicle. A 105-mm howitzer Mk61 of 1950 was mounted in it. It was equipped with a muzzle break. Such layout is beneficial for long-barreled artillery systems as the length of the vehicle does not change, the barrel does not project forward, the ammunition loading through the hatch was facilitated, a possibility of increasing the vertical aiming angles appeared. A 7.62 mm anti-aircraft machine gun was mounted on the armament compartment cabin. Some SPGs were also armed with a 7.5-mm machine gun mounted into a revolving turret.
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The difference of AMX-105A (SPG) chassis from AMX-13 (light tank) was only in terms of a higher rear. Otherwise, the characteristics of the vehicle remained the same. The running gear consisted of 10 road wheels (2x5), two front drive sprockets, two back idlers and six carrier rollers (2x6) and two tracks. Cushioning devices were mounted with the first and fifth road wheels.
The driver-mechanic crew station was in the front part of the hull to the left of the engine compartment. Other stations of the crew (commanding officer, gunner and two loaders) were in the cabin – in the combat department made of rolled steel plates (up to 200 mm). Howitzer’s aiming drive remained manual. One of the main drawbacks of this cannon was slow moving of the barrel from one target to another one. The ammunition consisted of 56 rounds including six armor-piercing rounds.
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The firing distance using 16-kg high-explosive shells was 15 000 m with the initial speed from 220 to 670 m/s.
Howitzer’s barrel was manufactured in two modifications – caliber 23 and 30. Both modifications had double-chamber muzzle brake. A 6-multiple reticle for shooting at armor-plated objects and a 4-multiple goniometer were parts of the firing control system.
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AMX-105A wasn’t equipped with a filter-ventilator mounting as well as had no individual waterborne platform. The vehicle could cross fords up to 0.8 m without special prior preparation.
SPGs AMX-105A (also — Mk61) were exported to Israel, Morocco, the Netherlands.
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АМХ-13 F3 AM. The first post-war Western self-propelled howitzer was a French SPG F3 155mm which began its service in 1960. 155-mm howitzer was mounted openly on the chassis of a light tank AMX-13. The cannon barrel’s length was 33 calibers and delivered fire for 20-25 km with the rapidity of fire 3 shots per minute. This SPG didn’t carry shells – they brought them (25 items) using a truck carrier.  8 crew members were transported by the carrier also. 110-mm) and upper side armor plates (thickness 100-mm).
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The first series of F3 SPGs were equipped with Sofam Model SGxb, an eight-cylinder liquid-cooled gasoline engine. Further vehicles were equipped with more powerful six-cylinder liquid-cooled diesel Detroit Diesel 6V-53T, which allowed an SPG to move on paved roads with a maximum speed of 60 km/h. Fuel distance increased from 300 km to 400 km. For the last production series of F3 SPGs, as well as for other machines of the family, AMX-13 Baudouin company used the diesel engine 6F11 SRY.
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BATIGNOLLES-CHATILLON 155mm. The main design feature of this SPG is the rotating turret. Construction of its prototype began in 1955. The suspension was similar to M 47, which was supplied to the French army. The turret with an automatic loading system was developed in 1958. Due to rejection of the project in December 1959, only wooden models were built. Ammunition was 36 shells. Speed: 62 km/h. Weight: 34.33 tons. Crew: 6 members.
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Lorraine 155 (Type 50 and Type 51).
This SPG was developed on the basis of Lorraine 40t and was equipped with 155-mm howitzers, as it can be seen on the index. Fixed armament compartment resembled combat vehicles with assault weapon, which were widely used during World War II. The original Talbot engine, mounted in 1951, was replaced with German Maybach. Weight of the combat vehicle was 30.3 tons; the crew consisted of five members. And armament consisted of 155-mm howitzer and 20-mm cannon. The vehicle claimed to speed up to 62 km/h. The main difference of these 2 types is the location of the armament compartment. Type 50 had the armament compartment located in the central part of the hull, later it was moved to the front (Type 51). The implementation of rubber tires for road wheels – an extra cushioning - was a very interesting solution, since the suspension was inherited from the Lorraine 40t. However, in 1955 the producers decided to start the BATIGNOLLES-CHATILLON 155mm project instead. This choice was a logical consequence of the assault weapons refusal, a concept which is clearly seen in development projects.
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And now it is time for the Post war French TD SPGs.
AMX AC de 120 (46) was a SPG project based on the project of M4 tank. It had checkered type of suspension. Its armament compartment was placed in the front of the hull. The angles of the armor plating arrangement and overall appearance of this TD SPG resembled German JagdPanther.
Combat weight of this SPG comprised 34 tons. Armor: front - 30 mm, side - 20 mm; its crew consisted of four members. Armament consisted of Schneider cannon and a machine gun installed in a small turret on the right of the cabin roof. The engine - Maybach HL 295, 12-cylinder engine of 1200 hp capacity.
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The suspension of AMX AC de 120 (48) remained unchanged in comparison with its sample model of 1946. The most important change was the modified form of the cabin. The height of the vehicle was noticeably lower. Unlike its predecessor, this type of AT SPG resembled JagdPzIV. Moreover, the vehicle had some “French innovations”. Small turret with a 20 mm gun MG 151 was installed in its cabin, and anti-aircraft flak turret with two MG 151 guns was mounted on the tail of the vehicle. Commander's turret was mounted on the left-front part of the cabin.
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After World War II French army had no modern tanks and heavy armament. For this reason, in March 1945 French industry was proposed to develop new models of armored vehicles. In this year AMX Company (Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux) presented its Project 141. This tank had a 90 mm cannon Schneider and was subsequently known as M4. By 1949, two prototypes were built.
Summing up the results of tests, the Commission decided to increase armor plating of the vehicle and mount the cannon of larger caliber. The first prototype of a 120-mm gun AT SPG was built in 1950, being marked AMX-50 Foch.
This TD SPG was developed on the basis of AMX-50 heavy tank. The front of its long “turretless” hull was made with a rational angle of armored surfaces. AMX-50 Foch was well armored and had very powerful cannon. These aspects provided excellent power density. I cannot but mention that this vehicle had some similarities to the German tank destroyer JagdPanther.
The TD SPG was armed with long-barreled 120-mm cannon, supplied with a muzzle brake. The carried forward gun had an armored mask, which exceeded the sloping hull front plate significantly. Moreover, the vehicle had a totally enclosed hull, covered with anti-shell armor.
The machine-gun turret was mounted on the right side of the fighting cab deck. The remotely operated anti-aircraft gun Reibel was mounted inside. The Commander's turret was equipped with rangefinder and was placed on the left side of it. The tank-driver was located on the right and watched the land environment with the help of a periscope.
Initially it was assumed that TD SPG AMX-50 Foch could be used as support vehicles for 100-mm gunned tanks, firing most dangerous distant targets. SPG AMX-50 Foch was tested successfully and a small amount of these vehicles entered the army in 1951, but subsequently the production of this vehicle was stopped and SPGs did not enter the service "in the interest of arms standardization of NATO countries". In 1952 the project was closed in favor of AMX-50-120, a tank with 120-mm cannon, which was mounted in the rotating turret. AMX-50-120 was good enough to counter "the Soviet tank threat" without any assistance, i.e. it did not require the support of infantry combat vehicles.
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In conclusion, we can say that French tank development of the Post war period was considerably influenced by German and Soviet equipment of the final period of World War II. The production capacity of France was in bad condition. What is more, there was a lack of qualified specialists and many technical solutions were borrowed from the flagship projects of that time.
Tank forces were supplied with foreign tanks and captured German vehicles M24, M26, M47, PzKpfw V Panther, etc.
However, French engineers managed to overcome the enormous difficulties and created fighting vehicles based on their own concepts, such as AMX-13, which gave birth to development of many combat vehicles and started the revival of the French tank development.
by Gustav Fuchs


Vallter
Clan wars - what's in it for me?
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17.05.2011 19:11:03
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\Clan wars - what's in it for me?
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Vallter: We will add mercenary system, but not in the first version of the CW.


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V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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17.05.2011 19:09:59
 
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View Postdd_inc, on 17 May 2011 - 05:42 PM, said: Hi Vallter,
why gold transfer feature was not added, and when it will be?
Thx

Vallter: We want to make game accounts more secure first. It will be added in upcoming updates, but not in the nearest ones.


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Server issue
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17.05.2011 18:52:04
 
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View PostCarthoris, on 17 May 2011 - 05:43 PM, said: Doesnt work in WG for sure...we are only paying customers loosing our time waiting for the product which is in "sharp payed" version (well k, premium time is returned - but not our time!) so what?

Vallter: You are chained to the forums and server loading screen during this period of day? We do not allow you to do anything else? We have a riflemen behind you stand up from your PC?
Then how we are wasting your personal time? -)


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Unscheduled Server Restart, 17
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17.05.2011 18:48:19
 
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Overlord: The restart is over.
Welcome aboard.


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Weapon accuracy
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17.05.2011 18:39:49
 
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Vallter: Hetzer received a buff. There can't be such issue from the game server side.


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Horrible FPS
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17.05.2011 18:38:23
 
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Vallter: Please, contact our customer support if you suffer from any lags. Maybe your PC needs some new optimizations after the patch.
https://support.worldoftanks.eu/


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Server issue
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17.05.2011 18:36:39
 
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Vallter: We have added more premium time (additional 24 hours) just in case of such servers restarts. Please, be patient. We will turn them on ASAP.


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V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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17.05.2011 18:25:27
 
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View Postnemrod, on 17 May 2011 - 05:22 PM, said: you have limited high textures to 64bit op. sys. only - i ask WHY?
i have win xp 32bit and in version 0.6.3.11 i could set high textures, now i cant...
tell me, what is the purpose of this, to force players to buy 64bit op. sys. in order to set high tex, even when their hardware is easily capable of having high textures?
suddenly i am forced to play in medium (UGLY compared to high) textures and i ask one question - what da f***?? i want high tex back!

Vallter: Please, contact our customer service. They will do their best to fix the issue.
https://support.worldoftanks.eu


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V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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17.05.2011 18:24:03
 
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View PostMoonomaxos, on 17 May 2011 - 05:09 PM, said: Dear Vallter ,
what kind of software are you guys using for video capturing..??
Thanks

Vallter: I can't say you what kind we use for trailers, but I personally capture with FRAPS with Camera Mod installed.


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The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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17.05.2011 18:21:45
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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Vallter: Was restarting the server. The next question is posted.


Overlord
Unscheduled Server Restart, 17
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17.05.2011 17:59:35
 
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Overlord: Game servers are going to be restarted May 17, 15:20 UTC.
Estimated downtime: up to 30 minutes.
Reason: unscheduled maintenance.
We apologize for any inconvenience.


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The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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17.05.2011 17:39:42
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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Vallter: We will post the list of winners tomorrow.


Vallter
Reporting Teamkillers after 0.6.4
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17.05.2011 17:08:36
 
Subject: Important Information\Notifications and Announcements\Reporting Teamkillers after 0.6.4
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Vallter: Dear Players,
Due to the introduction of an automated system of violations tracking (teamdamage, teamkill), the administration draws your attention to the following information - with the introduction of this system, users’ complaints about the above mentioned violations will not be considered.
From now on all punishments for teamdamage and teamkill will be executed automatically without support service workers' interference. The system has been customized, tested multiple times and currently works stably. We also draw your attention to the fact that a multitude of all possible circumstances accompanying different violations (including extenuating and aggravating ones) has been taken into consideration.
All requests relating to ban cancellation or minimizing the punishment period, laid by the system, will be ignored.
Additional information on the automated system of teamkillers and bot users tracking you will find on this page:
http://forum.worldof...ill-autosystem/


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The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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17.05.2011 17:01:02
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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Vallter: The Quiz is paused for 30 minutes! Please, read carefully:
http://forum.worldof...locked-modules/


Vallter
V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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17.05.2011 16:57:20
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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Vallter: Gold transfer feature was not added.
PLEASE! Read the following carefully:
http://forum.worldof...locked-modules/


Vallter
Demounting 'locked' modules
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17.05.2011 16:54:43
 
Subject: News from the Front\Developers Break Down Game Mechanics\Demounting 'locked' modules
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Vallter: Dear Users,
After the patch release some users faced the problem of unmounting permanently attached modules. We remind you that innovations allow you to move the locked modules to the depot (to mount them on another tank) for 10 Gold.
Click on the 'locked' module with the left mouse button and select the Demount Equipment option.
After that the equipment is moved to the depot and you can mount it on other tanks.
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When you click on the Destroy Equipment panel or try to replace the non-removable module with another one, the specified module simply disappears.
Be attentive, please. Enjoy the game!


Cheeka
V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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17.05.2011 16:04:42
 
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View Postijazrazik, on 17 May 2011 - 02:57 PM, said: can we use the same patch file for the us client?
or do we have to re-download it again?

Cheeka: downloads are suitable for EU-players only. the us updates are coming according to the schedule.


Cheeka
V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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17.05.2011 15:19:31
 
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Cheeka: The works are over. Thank you for your patience.
You can download the updates here
Enjoy!


Cheeka
ZAM about WOT New Record
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17.05.2011 15:13:54
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\ZAM about WOT New Record
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Cheeka: ZAM about WOT New Record
Back to article


Overlord
Unscheduled Server Restart, May 16 - 17
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17.05.2011 14:50:03
 
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Overlord: The server is up and running.


Vallter
The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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17.05.2011 14:40:35
 
Subject: News from the Front\Discussion of News Articles\The Quiz during 0.6.4 update
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View PostRicardo5802, on 17 May 2011 - 12:59 PM, said: One question, do we need need to send the answers via the same email that our account is using? Or can we use another one and still indicate our nickname and Server Group?

Vallter: You can just indicate nickname and server. But if you send answers via account related e-mail, it will be better


Overlord
Unscheduled Server Restart, May 16 - 17
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17.05.2011 14:33:10
 
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V.0.6.4 Update Takes Place Tomorrow
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17.05.2011 14:31:59
 
LiannaSilverwind
Buffs for German Tanks which are not mentioned in Patchnotes 0.6.4.0
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17.05.2011 13:50:06
 
Subject: Game Discussion\Gameplay Discussion\Buffs for German Tanks which are not mentioned in Patchnotes 0.6.4.0
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View PostRagge, on 17 May 2011 - 11:05 AM, said: Utter ignorance. Germany did not win the Battle of Kursk, however Soviet didn't win either. It was a complete and utter draw. If memory serves me right the German army was issued a retreat order to move back and defend the fatherland or somesuch. I'll update this once I get the time to read up on the exact circumstances.
Regarding it not being a simulator that's a load of crab. Why? Because WarGaming, your employer, clearly state it is a simulator in regard to looks and characteristics (stats) of the tanks.

LiannaSilverwind: I won't comment on your view of history. In case you would like to continue this discussion, please create a thread in History section, I will gladly follow you and we can discuss strategy, politics, tactics, operations, logistics, whatever and quote authors of different books.
Simulator vs Arcade answer from Overlord, WG Q & A specialist:
http://forum.worldof...post__p__528598
Moderators are not employees of WG staff, they are volunteers, trained and assigned duties by WG staff.


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