T110's Third Summer of Love and Tolerance
Дата: 08.07.2016 17:10:33
LordCommanderMilitant, on Jul 06 2016 - 22:07, said: To be honest, what do you need 30 bullets for? You
don't need that many bullets when hunting, you don't need that many
for sport shooting, and in a self defense scenario, you're part of
the problem if you need a ton of bullet to stop the attacker.The_Chieftain: Bear in mind that your typical defense shooting (eg Police)
takes an average of five rounds to score a hit, and that one hit
alone doesn't necessarily end the threat. Also, unlike police, mass
shooters, etc., folks doing defense, especially at home, don't
carry spare mags. My defense pistol by my bed, I have ten rounds,
and that's it. After that, I've a club. People think folks only
want standard-capacity mags to deal with platoon sized raids, when
in reality, to deal with two or three folk, which is not
unreasonable, more than ten rounds is highly adviseable. It
is also worth noting that various State Constitutions are very
clear on their right to bear arms, far more so than the federal
Constitution. To specifically include personal defense and
hunting.
Daigensui, on Jul 07 2016 - 03:53, said: Nope. I am saying that with the "ideal" citizen soldier, all
citizens have an obligation to be part of the militia as much as
they are able to be. There is no choice here. This really
goes back to that long discussion we had with Starship Troopers.The_Chieftain: Although they generally do, courtesy of being in the
militia, and enforceable by the draft, in the US context, the
citizen soldier has always been held to be the citizen who is
willing to take up arms as necessary, and that is the basis upon
which the US military currently works. I'm in a training unit right
now, my unit patch is that used by all National Guard training
units around the country: A minuteman. Even active duty is a
different philosophy to most volunteer militaries. The military is
far more commonly seen as something in which one does a stint
before returning to civilian life. In Europe, it's more a vocation,
folks soldiering for the sake of soldiering. From what I read of
that Rand link, I doubt any of the authors are in touch with the
military culture, if any served at all.. It is further to be
observed, on a related tangent, that there is ample evidence that
in time of need, soldiers are more effectively trained when they
already have firearms familiarity. Check the amicus brief in Heller
from retired army officers. (I'm on iPad, searching for links is
annoying)
GoldMountain, on Jul 07 2016 - 15:17, said: Still waiting for the Royal Navy...The_Chieftain: I have a cunning plan for that one. Should be implemented in
about two weeks. Spent most of a week at 11,000 ft. Still
not adjusted. As as to the Hilary thing, what's
annoying us in the military is that there is no doubt that such
mishandling of information is a career-ended, there is plenty ample
evidence of such. A recent case involved a USMC Major, Jason
Brezler, who used a non secure email system to notify other
Marinees of a corrupt Afghan police chief. Dept of Navy decided to
fire him. Congressmen had to get involved to get the Sec Nav
to delay the discharge pending further review. His career is still
in the air. Every year, we have to suffer through online
OpSec training. It's god awful, but covers exactly what Hilary did.
It jus irks the hell out of us. Another link to look
for, Google "duffleblog OpSec" (Duffleblog is a military satire
site, and is usually very much on the pulse of the troops)
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