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Jeremy Taylor: The contest is finished. Many thanks to all participants. The results will be announced within the next few hours.

Jeremy Taylor: First off, players are allowed to form single-nation teams within the clan war mode. Then, World of Tanks players will fight in factions during our special historic events. And finally, we will probably single out the special Faction vs Faction mode.

MrVic: http://img84.imagesh...81/thumbs59.jpg

MrVic: US-MBT
Nicknamed “Patton’s Piledriver”

Origins
The start of what later became the US-MBT started at Fort Riley, Kansas, Patton and Eisenhower developing the armored doctrine which would be used by the US Army in World War II. In the early 1920s, Patton petitioned the U.S. Congress to appropriate funding for an armored force, but had little luck. Patton also wrote professional articles on tank and armored car tactics, suggesting new methods for their use. He also continued working on improvements to tanks, coming up with innovations in radio communication and tank guns. Sadly Congress had little interest and Patton seeing no room for advancement pursuing an unpopular armored doctrine transferred back to the horse Calvary.
In 1937 a design engineer by the name of Victor Walden came across the ideas in his research and began pursuing some of the ideas Patton had laid out in the 1920’s. Seeing the development of armored fighting vehicles in other parts of the world and the brewing of animosity in Europe he decided if he could design a well developed tank he would likely attract a Government defense contract for his designs. Seeing so many innovations in many other parts of the world lead him to believe what Patton had advocated that future wars would be by fast moving armored vehicles. Victor agreed with this assessment and started with a main gun for his tank. Wanting to be able to take out any armor he encountered he settled on the 75mm gun. After testing some prototypes he realized at longer ranges the shells dropped dramatically and making it harder to compensate for by the gunner. His solution was to flatten the rounds trajectory. He lengthened the gun barrel and increased the charge per shell drastically, in hopes of getting a high muzzle velocity and a flatter trajectory. With these changes in place he had achieved what he had set out to do, with unexpected massive boost in armor penetration. He settled on a new shell with a tungsten core for maximum penetration. Then a secondary round of high explosives for infantry support. With a AP round with 1120m/s muzzle velocity he figured he had enough power to destroy any enemy tank required.
Looking at the M3 and M4 tanks in design stages and development he decided his US-MBT needed to be tougher and faster to wrestle a defense contract away from them. He found Ford had scrapped a V12 for a V8 version to be used in the M4’s in design. Victor jumped that the larger much more powerful engine. This gave his tank a 785hp powerhouse to launch his tank into any fight and power the electrical and hydraulic turret controls to counteract the weight of this amazing weapon. Armor was a big issue for Victor as his own gun could pierce amazingly thick armor he was not sure he could provide a defense to his own weapon. He had two choices in case he faced something as powerful has his design. First would be to added immense amounts of armor to try to slug it out with an enemy tank, but in doing so he would lose most of his mobility. He decided on the second option, good speed and decent armor. Patton’s writings expressed how highly mobile forces would have the advantage, so slowing his tank down would go against the foundation he started from. With the addition of two browning .30 cal machines guns for infantry defense his tank was complete. He approached International to produce his prototypes in 1939. With a smooth angles and a simple basic layout they had no issue retooling for the US-MBT’s production. Once his 2 prototypes were complete in late 1939 he presented them to the US Armored Force Board. They were amazed with what Victor had done. Victor had a production sorted out all the materials required and production or his ammunition already in place if his tank was approved. After three long weeks of testing and reviews they accepted his design and ordered 50 more to be produced as for further testing alongside the M3 and M4’s. Upon combat test trials along side the M3 the US-MBT completely overshadowed the M3. Patton witnessed these trials and had heard that Victor based his design on the tactics and ideas Patton had expressed in his reports in the 1920’s. Patton turned to Eisenhower who was in shock of the weapon before him and said “Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results”
GENERAL DATA
Other Designations...........US-MBT
Manufacturer(s)..................International
Production Quantity...............50 (750 ordered)
Production Period....................1940-?
Type..........................................Medium Tank
Crew...............................................5
Length /hull (m)....................5.92 m (19' 5")
Width /with skirts (m).............3.00 m (9' 10")
Combat Weight (kg)...................39000kg 43tons
Height (m)..........................2.41 m (7' 11")
Barrel Overhang (m)....................1.74
Radio Equipment.......................SCR508/528/538
FIREPOWER
Primary Armament.......................75mm (HV Long)
Ammunition Carried........................92
Traverse (degrees)......................360(manual/hydraulic)
Elevation (degrees).....................-8° to +18°
Secondary Armament......................2x Browning .30 cal
Ammunition Carried.........................4500
Sight......................................M55, M38
MOBILITY CHARACTERISTICS
Engine Make & Model........................Ford GAA V12
Horsepower (max.).........................785 HP@2600rpm
Power/Weight Ratio.........................18.25hp/ton
Gearbox................................................5 forward, 1 reverse
Fuel.........................................................Gasoline (Petrol)
Range on/off road (km).......................178
Mileage (liters/100km).......................412 on road
Fuel Capacity (liters)..........................830
Speed on/off road.................................55km/32km
Track Links..............................................74/track
Track Width.............................................55.0 cm (22")
Track Ground Contact...................................372 cm (146")
Ground Pressure ....................................64 kg/cm2 (9.1 psi)
Ground Clearance (m)...............................0.4 m (1' 4")
Turning Radius (m)..................................7.6 m (24' 11")
Gradient (degrees)....................................35°
Vertical Obstacle (m)...................................0.8 m (2' 7")
Fording (m)..............................................1.3 m (4' 3")
Trench Crossing (m)........................................2.5 m (8' 2")
ARMOR PROTECTION
Armor Detail........Front.....................Side........................Rear......................Top/Bottom
Upper Hull...........75mm@30°..........45mm@50°..............40mm@48°..............20mm@0°
Lower Hull...........60mm@30°...........45mm@90°.............40mm@45°..............20mm@0°
Turret..................85mm@75°...........45mm@65°.............45mm@69-90°.........20mm@0°
Mantlet................90mm@round...........NA...................... NA.......................... NA

MrVic: US-MBT

Nicknamed “Patton’s Piledriver”

http://img517.images.../usmbtfinal.gif

Origins
The start of what later became the US-MBT started at Fort Riley, Kansas, Patton and Eisenhower developing the armored doctrine which would be used by the US Army in World War II. In the early 1920s, Patton petitioned the U.S. Congress to appropriate funding for an armored force, but had little luck. Patton also wrote professional articles on tank and armored car tactics, suggesting new methods for their use. He also continued working on improvements to tanks, coming up with innovations in radio communication and tank guns. Sadly Congress had little interest and Patton seeing no room for advancement pursuing an unpopular armored doctrine transferred back to the horse Calvary.
In 1937 a design engineer by the name of Victor Walden came across the ideas in his research and began pursuing some of the ideas Patton had laid out in the 1920’s.  Seeing the development of armored fighting vehicles in other parts of the world and the brewing of animosity in Europe he decided if he could design a well developed tank he would likely attract a Government defense contract for his designs.  Seeing so many innovations in many other parts of the world lead him to believe what Patton had advocated that future wars would be by fast moving armored vehicles.  Victor agreed with this assessment and started with a main gun for his tank.  Wanting to be able to take out any armor he encountered he settled on the 75mm gun. After testing some prototypes he realized at longer ranges the shells dropped dramatically and making it harder to compensate for by the gunner.  His solution was to flatten the rounds trajectory. He lengthened the gun barrel and increased the charge per shell drastically, in hopes of getting a high muzzle velocity and a flatter trajectory.  With these changes in place he had achieved what he had set out to do, with unexpected massive boost in armor penetration.  He settled on a new shell with a tungsten core for maximum penetration.  Then a secondary round of high explosives for infantry support.  With a AP round with 1120m/s muzzle velocity he figured he had enough power to destroy any enemy tank required.  
Looking at the M3 and M4 tanks in design stages and development he decided his US-MBT needed to be tougher and faster to wrestle a defense contract away from them.  He found Ford had scrapped a V12 for a V8 version to be used in the M4’s in design.  Victor jumped that the larger much more powerful engine. This gave his tank a 785hp powerhouse to launch his tank into any fight and power the electrical and hydraulic turret controls to counteract the weight of this amazing weapon.  Armor was a big issue for Victor as his own gun could pierce amazingly thick armor he was not sure he could provide a defense to his own weapon.  He had two choices in case he faced something as powerful has his design. First would be to added immense amounts of armor to try to slug it out with an enemy tank, but in doing so he would lose most of his mobility. He decided on the second option, good speed and decent armor.  Patton’s writings expressed how highly mobile forces would have the advantage, so slowing his tank down would go against the foundation he started from.  With the addition of two browning .30 cal machines guns for infantry defense his tank was complete.  He approached International to produce his prototypes in 1939. With a smooth angles and a simple basic layout they had no issue retooling for the US-MBT’s production. Once his 2 prototypes were complete in late 1939 he presented them to the US Armored Force Board. They were amazed with what Victor had done. Victor had a production sorted out all the materials required and production or his ammunition already in place if his tank was approved.  After three long weeks of testing and reviews they accepted his design and ordered 50 more to be produced as for further testing alongside the M3 and M4’s.  Upon combat test trials along side the M3 the US-MBT completely overshadowed the M3. Patton witnessed these trials and had heard that Victor based his design on the tactics and ideas  Patton had expressed in his reports in the 1920’s. Patton turned to Eisenhower who was in shock of the weapon before him and said “Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results”

GENERAL DATA
Other Designations...........US-MBT
Manufacturer(s)..................International
Production Quantity...............50 (750 ordered)
Production Period....................1940-?
Type..........................................Medium Tank
Crew...............................................5
Length /hull (m)....................5.92 m (19' 5")
Width /with skirts (m).............3.00 m (9' 10")
Combat Weight (kg)...................39000kg 43tons
Height (m)..........................2.41 m (7' 11")
Barrel Overhang (m)....................1.74
Radio Equipment.......................SCR508/528/538
FIREPOWER
Primary Armament.......................75mm (HV Long)
Ammunition Carried........................92
Traverse (degrees)......................360(manual/hydraulic)
Elevation (degrees).....................-8° to +18°
Secondary Armament......................2x Browning .30 cal
Ammunition Carried.........................4500
Sight......................................M55, M38
MOBILITY CHARACTERISTICS
Engine Make & Model........................Ford GAA V12
Horsepower (max.).........................785 HP@2600rpm
Power/Weight Ratio.........................18.25hp/ton
Gearbox................................................5 forward, 1 reverse
Fuel.........................................................Gasoline (Petrol)
Range on/off road (km).......................178
Mileage (liters/100km).......................412 on road
Fuel Capacity (liters)..........................830
Speed on/off road.................................55km/32km
Track Links..............................................74/track
Track Width.............................................55.0 cm (22")
Track Ground Contact...................................372 cm (146")
Ground Pressure ....................................64 kg/cm2 (9.1 psi)
Ground Clearance (m)...............................0.4 m (1' 4")
Turning Radius (m)..................................7.6 m (24' 11")
Gradient (degrees)....................................35°
Vertical Obstacle (m)...................................0.8 m (2' 7")
Fording (m)..............................................1.3 m (4' 3")
Trench Crossing (m)........................................2.5 m (8' 2")
ARMOR PROTECTION
Armor Detail........Front.....................Side........................Rear......................Top/Bottom
Upper Hull...........75mm@30°..........45mm@50°..............40mm@48°..............20mm@0°
Lower Hull...........60mm@30°...........45mm@90°.............40mm@45°..............20mm@0°
Turret..................85mm@75°...........45mm@65°.............45mm@69-90°.........20mm@0°
Mantlet................90mm@round...........NA...................... NA.......................... NA

MrVic: US-MBT

Nicknamed “Patton’s Piledriver”

http://img517.images.../usmbtfinal.gif

Origins
The start of what later became the US-MBT started at Fort Riley, Kansas, Patton and Eisenhower developing the armored doctrine which would be used by the US Army in World War II. In the early 1920s, Patton petitioned the U.S. Congress to appropriate funding for an armored force, but had little luck. Patton also wrote professional articles on tank and armored car tactics, suggesting new methods for their use. He also continued working on improvements to tanks, coming up with innovations in radio communication and tank guns. Sadly Congress had little interest and Patton seeing no room for advancement pursuing an unpopular armored doctrine transferred back to the horse Calvary.
In 1937 a design engineer by the name of Victor Walden came across the ideas in his research and began pursuing some of the ideas Patton had laid out in the 1920’s.  Seeing the development of armored fighting vehicles in other parts of the world and the brewing of animosity in Europe he decided if he could design a well developed tank he would likely attract a Government defense contract for his designs.  Seeing so many innovations in many other parts of the world lead him to believe what Patton had advocated that future wars would be by fast moving armored vehicles.  Victor agreed with this assessment and started with a main gun for his tank.  Wanting to be able to take out any armor he encountered he settled on the 75mm gun. After testing some prototypes he realized at longer ranges the shells dropped dramatically and making it harder to compensate for by the gunner.  His solution was to flatten the rounds trajectory. He lengthened the gun barrel and increased the charge per shell drastically, in hopes of getting a high muzzle velocity and a flatter trajectory.  With these changes in place he had achieved what he had set out to do, with unexpected massive boost in armor penetration.  He settled on a new shell with a tungsten core for maximum penetration.  Then a secondary round of high explosives for infantry support.  With a AP round with 1120m/s muzzle velocity he figured he had enough power to destroy any enemy tank required.  
Looking at the M3 and M4 tanks in design stages and development he decided his US-MBT needed to be tougher and faster to wrestle a defense contract away from them.  He found Ford had scrapped a V12 for a V8 version to be used in the M4’s in design.  Victor jumped that the larger much more powerful engine. This gave his tank a 785hp powerhouse to launch his tank into any fight and power the electrical and hydraulic turret controls to counteract the weight of this amazing weapon.  Armor was a big issue for Victor as his own gun could pierce amazingly thick armor he was not sure he could provide a defense to his own weapon.  He had two choices in case he faced something as powerful has his design. First would be to added immense amounts of armor to try to slug it out with an enemy tank, but in doing so he would lose most of his mobility. He decided on the second option, good speed and decent armor.  Patton’s writings expressed how highly mobile forces would have the advantage, so slowing his tank down would go against the foundation he started from.  With the addition of two browning .30 cal machines guns for infantry defense his tank was complete.  He approached International to produce his prototypes in 1939. With a smooth angles and a simple basic layout they had no issue retooling for the US-MBT’s production. Once his 2 prototypes were complete in late 1939 he presented them to the US Armored Force Board. They were amazed with what Victor had done. Victor had a production sorted out all the materials required and production or his ammunition already in place if his tank was approved.  After three long weeks of testing and reviews they accepted his design and ordered 50 more to be produced as for further testing alongside the M3 and M4’s.  Upon combat test trials along side the M3 the US-MBT completely overshadowed the M3. Patton witnessed these trials and had heard that Victor based his design on the tactics and ideas  Patton had expressed in his reports in the 1920’s. Patton turned to Eisenhower who was in shock of the weapon before him and said “Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results”

GENERAL DATA
Other Designations...........US-MBT
Manufacturer(s)..................International
Production Quantity...............50 (750 ordered)
Production Period....................1940-?
Type..........................................Medium Tank
Crew...............................................5
Length /hull (m)....................5.92 m (19' 5")
Width /with skirts (m).............3.00 m (9' 10")
Combat Weight (kg)...................39000kg 43tons
Height (m)..........................2.41 m (7' 11")
Barrel Overhang (m)....................1.74
Radio Equipment.......................SCR508/528/538
FIREPOWER
Primary Armament.......................75mm (HV Long)
Ammunition Carried........................92
Traverse (degrees)......................360(manual/hydraulic)
Elevation (degrees).....................-8° to +18°
Secondary Armament......................2x Browning .30 cal
Ammunition Carried.........................4500
Sight......................................M55, M38
MOBILITY CHARACTERISTICS
Engine Make & Model........................Ford GAA V12
Horsepower (max.).........................785 HP@2600rpm
Power/Weight Ratio.........................18.25hp/ton
Gearbox................................................5 forward, 1 reverse
Fuel.........................................................Gasoline (Petrol)
Range on/off road (km).......................178
Mileage (liters/100km).......................412 on road
Fuel Capacity (liters)..........................830
Speed on/off road.................................55km/32km
Track Links..............................................74/track
Track Width.............................................55.0 cm (22")
Track Ground Contact...................................372 cm (146")
Ground Pressure ....................................64 kg/cm2 (9.1 psi)
Ground Clearance (m)...............................0.4 m (1' 4")
Turning Radius (m)..................................7.6 m (24' 11")
Gradient (degrees)....................................35°
Vertical Obstacle (m)...................................0.8 m (2' 7")
Fording (m)..............................................1.3 m (4' 3")
Trench Crossing (m)........................................2.5 m (8' 2")
ARMOR PROTECTION
Armor Detail........Front.....................Side........................Rear......................Top/Bottom
Upper Hull...........75mm@30°..........45mm@50°..............40mm@48°..............20mm@0°
Lower Hull...........60mm@30°...........45mm@90°.............40mm@45°..............20mm@0°
Turret..................85mm@75°...........45mm@65°.............45mm@69-90°.........20mm@0°
Mantlet................90mm@round...........NA...................... NA.......................... NA

MrVic: What program did you use LordLothair? I figure a few of us are destined to keep making tanks even after this (probably after a rest) lmao
Some how I got sucked into doing one more tank lol. Hope to have it posted shortly.

MrVic: What program did you use LordLothair? I figure a few of us are destined to keep making tanks even after this (probably after a rest) lmao

Some how I got sucked into doing one more tank lol.  Hope to have it posted shortly.

MrVic: What program did you use LordLothair? I figure a few of us are destined to keep making tanks even after this (probably after a rest) lmao

Some how I got sucked into doing one more tank lol.  Hope to have it posted shortly.

MrVic: Very nice

MrVic: Very nice

MrVic: Very nice

MrVic: you would have to draw straws because no one wants to be the first few fired while they "range in" ...Ahh dawn franz hit the barn...up angle 1.102 degrees....damn karl hit the grain silo...down .982 degrees....

MrVic: you would have to draw straws because no one wants to be the first few fired while they "range in"  ...Ahh dawn franz hit the barn...up angle 1.102 degrees....damn karl hit the grain silo...down .982 degrees....

MrVic: you would have to draw straws because no one wants to be the first few fired while they "range in"  ...Ahh dawn franz hit the barn...up angle 1.102 degrees....damn karl hit the grain silo...down .982 degrees....

MrVic: you mean its fire people that sometimes end up as corpses.... easily confused in the operators manual description

MrVic:
you mean its fire people that sometimes end up as corpses.... easily confused in the operators manual description

MrVic:
you mean its fire people that sometimes end up as corpses.... easily confused in the operators manual description

MrVic: only way to top that is RRAI rapid response airborne infantry......we fire human cannonballs with parachutes and rifles!

MrVic: only way to top that is RRAI   rapid response airborne infantry......we fire human cannonballs with parachutes and rifles!

MrVic: only way to top that is RRAI   rapid response airborne infantry......we fire human cannonballs with parachutes and rifles!

Jeremy Taylor: Yes, just an example. The player can lock on the moving target as well. Please refer to http://forum.worldof..._120 where some of our beta testers share their experience about this feature.

Jeremy Taylor: Please don't be disappointed . ZiS-30 will be added into World of Tanks after the release. Please bear in mind, that those tank tree lines published on our website represent the vehicles that will be available in the release version. We will be adding more panzers and more nations to World of Tanks after the release gradually.

MrVic: yeah I just got this funny idea of all the transport tanks staying in the "travel" setup and all rolling back and forth like and acordian as it fired. lol just would look hiliarious.
I was trying to find the report I used to have about a ww2 smaller railway gun that they left the brakes engaged fully and chock blocks on it and it fire. there was a picture of the gun driven into the ground under the carriage lmao

MrVic:
yeah I just got this funny idea of all the transport tanks staying in the "travel" setup and all rolling back and forth like and acordian as it fired.  lol just would look hiliarious.

I was trying to find the report I used to have about a ww2 smaller railway gun that they left the brakes engaged fully and chock blocks on it and it fire.  there was a picture of the gun driven into the ground under the carriage lmao

MrVic:
yeah I just got this funny idea of all the transport tanks staying in the "travel" setup and all rolling back and forth like and acordian as it fired.  lol just would look hiliarious.

I was trying to find the report I used to have about a ww2 smaller railway gun that they left the brakes engaged fully and chock blocks on it and it fire.  there was a picture of the gun driven into the ground under the carriage lmao

MrVic: yeah I had to primarily stay black and white as my color pallet was to dificult to manage more then basic colors and stay consistant. they do look nice with a good paint job
As to the fun skematic information. yeah I read up alot on weird aspects and tech for ww2 tech. heh long time ago I started keeping spreadsheets for refernce when playing wargames to see if the numbers they created for the game were porportional to real life ect. That alone has come in handy big time hehe
Nice arty kurt . only thing I kept thinking was if someone welded the tanks to the barrel and it fired horizontal would they all roll back like some sick twisted train (sorry my mind thinks of that kinda of stuff lol) I get their not welded just a funny to think about very cool idea!

MrVic: yeah I had to primarily stay black and white as my color pallet was to dificult to manage more then basic colors and stay consistant. they do look nice with a good paint job

As to the fun skematic information. yeah I read up alot on weird aspects and tech for ww2 tech. heh long time ago I started keeping spreadsheets for refernce when playing wargames to see if the numbers they created for the game were porportional to real life ect.  That alone has come in handy big time hehe


Nice arty kurt .  only thing I kept thinking was if someone welded the tanks to the barrel and it fired horizontal would they all roll back like some sick twisted train   (sorry my mind thinks of that kinda of stuff lol) I get their not welded just a funny to think about        very cool idea!

MrVic: yeah I had to primarily stay black and white as my color pallet was to dificult to manage more then basic colors and stay consistant. they do look nice with a good paint job

As to the fun skematic information. yeah I read up alot on weird aspects and tech for ww2 tech. heh long time ago I started keeping spreadsheets for refernce when playing wargames to see if the numbers they created for the game were porportional to real life ect.  That alone has come in handy big time hehe


Nice arty kurt .  only thing I kept thinking was if someone welded the tanks to the barrel and it fired horizontal would they all roll back like some sick twisted train   (sorry my mind thinks of that kinda of stuff lol) I get their not welded just a funny to think about        very cool idea!

Jeremy Taylor: World of Tanks vehicles' guns are not stabilized and gun sight is not automatically fixed on the target. The gun direction and elevation is totally under the player's control. However, we omitted excessive gun jolting due to action gameplay concerns. In World of Tanks the player is aiming manually at the enemy fighting vehicle and the vehicle’s modules. Right-clicking is used to lock on the already selected motionless target for camera rotating.

Jeremy Taylor: The ultimate advantage of the sloped armor is that it in fact improves the actual armor thickness. The shell is impacting the sloped armor angle-wise, thus increasing the chance of rebound.

MrVic: lmao. you have peaked my interest now

MrVic:

lmao. you have peaked my interest now

MrVic:

lmao. you have peaked my interest now

MrVic: The best part of the disappearing gun tech is its like 1800's tech
Well technically its full auto but I labeled it as semi since its sounded more umm....rational. Lol but the weapon is capable of full auto
The tech of war in all ages is scary when your really dig into what can be or has been made

MrVic:
The best part of the disappearing gun tech is its like 1800's tech

Well technically its full auto but I labeled it as semi since its sounded more umm....rational.  Lol but the weapon is capable of full auto
The tech of war in all ages is scary when your really dig into what can be or has been made

MrVic:
The best part of the disappearing gun tech is its like 1800's tech

Well technically its full auto but I labeled it as semi since its sounded more umm....rational.  Lol but the weapon is capable of full auto
The tech of war in all ages is scary when your really dig into what can be or has been made

MrVic: hehe ya I have had some fun with it. Breyd was working on his disappearing gun tank and I get this message "I need the length of a 8.8cm shell" my response "29.13 inches"
the next message I get is "alright..so 10cm by 75cm...so the revolver drum needs to be 50-60cm by 75" The whole time I am just dying laughing because I know what hes up to and I want to see it
does that make us sick people?

MrVic:
hehe ya I have had some fun with it.  Breyd was working on his disappearing gun tank and I get this message "I need the length of a 8.8cm shell" my response "29.13 inches"
the next message I get is  "alright..so 10cm by 75cm...so the revolver drum needs to be 50-60cm by 75" The whole time I am just dying laughing because I know what hes up to and I want to see it
does that make us sick people?

MrVic:
hehe ya I have had some fun with it.  Breyd was working on his disappearing gun tank and I get this message "I need the length of a 8.8cm shell" my response "29.13 inches"
the next message I get is  "alright..so 10cm by 75cm...so the revolver drum needs to be 50-60cm by 75" The whole time I am just dying laughing because I know what hes up to and I want to see it
does that make us sick people?