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Subject: Why all the mod hate? Give them a break...
Link on message: #2091733
Lionheart1917, on Jun 19 2012 - 18:37, said: Well they are definitely more effective than the mods on Runescape;
just go to some random area in Runescape and you'll almost
certainly see bots going around cutting down trees everywhere.
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Lionheart1917, on Jun 19 2012 - 18:37, said: Well they are definitely more effective than the mods on Runescape;
just go to some random area in Runescape and you'll almost
certainly see bots going around cutting down trees everywhere.Tanitha: Definitely, I guarantee no bots have ever cut down any tree's in
World of Tanks.
Its something we are very proud of.
Regards
Tan.
Its something we are very proud of.
Regards
Tan.
Subject: Why all the mod hate? Give them a break...
Link on message: #2090265
SumiXam, on Jun 19 2012 - 16:19, said: There have been several threads bashing the moderators and admins
lately. Personally I don't see the point. There are rules for forum
and in game conduct for a reason. I think they do a reasonable job
keeping the dialogue mostly civil. They obviously can't be
everywhere and some things will slip under the radar, but I think
they do a good job.
I've had a couple of scrapes with the moderation team (not disputing anything here
) and my interaction
with them through PM in these instances has been both positive and
unbiased. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks to those who have the
thankless job of keeping the peace among this sometimes unruly lot.
Link on message: #2090265
SumiXam, on Jun 19 2012 - 16:19, said: There have been several threads bashing the moderators and admins
lately. Personally I don't see the point. There are rules for forum
and in game conduct for a reason. I think they do a reasonable job
keeping the dialogue mostly civil. They obviously can't be
everywhere and some things will slip under the radar, but I think
they do a good job.I've had a couple of scrapes with the moderation team (not disputing anything here
Tanitha: You are welcome.
We are here to accommodate the fun of the majority, Unfortunately that sometimes includes having to restrict some who are impeding on the fun of others.
Regards
Tan.
We are here to accommodate the fun of the majority, Unfortunately that sometimes includes having to restrict some who are impeding on the fun of others.
Regards
Tan.
Subject: What to do with all the trolls?
Link on message: #2087667
DeutschPantherV, on Jun 19 2012 - 05:09, said: it is unfortunate, though, that that is what that part of the
forums has degraded to. It had the possibility to be helpful, but
people are just using the TS servers to communicate between clans.
Link on message: #2087667
DeutschPantherV, on Jun 19 2012 - 05:09, said: it is unfortunate, though, that that is what that part of the
forums has degraded to. It had the possibility to be helpful, but
people are just using the TS servers to communicate between clans.Tanitha: Not really.
Let me share one of my support/ticket replies I wrote up recently. The figures are about 2 weeks old but you will get the gist of it..
Dear Player
Clan Rivalry thrives on the NA server. That is one of the main differences between the NA and EU servers.
For example.
On NA.
The Clan Rivalry / Diplomacy sections contains.
802 topics
43,593 replies
And as per the clan section rulings announced to all the clan sections, located here for your reference.
http://forum.worldof...-section-rules/
Clan Rivalry / Diplomacy
The current rules for the "Clan Rivalry / Diplomacy" section are as follows.
* This section contains the threads made by players for general clan rivalry and diplomacy. Since the purpose of this section revolves around clan rivalry, moderation will be lighter in this section due to clan rivalry belonging in this section.
* Normal forum rules such as sanctions on insults, inappropriate language, naming and shaming players, etc,, will be enforced within this section, however friendly clan ribbing and clan rivalry is permitted within this section to some extent.
* Any clan rivaly outside of this section, will be deemed as off-topic and shall be sanctioned.
The clan Rivalry / Diplomacy section is there for clan rivalry on the NA server and is lightly moderated.
On the EU server this was not the case. As such the EU Clan diplomacy section, Which doesn't allow clan rivalry, only contains 1/10th of the participation from the players.
84 topics
4,312 replies
43,000 posts on the NA server, compared to 4,300 posts on the EU server is a huge difference, Especially considering the EU server currently has approximately 3x the player base.
Effectively, that makes the clan rivalry section of NA server, 30x more active on a per player level.
We appreciate not all clans wish to partake in a lighter moderation situation, or partake in clan rivalry within the forums. But there is many sections within the forums and it is your choice as a player to post a thread into this section or not. If you do not wish to participate in a lightly moderated section specifically designed for clan rivalry, then you are free to not do so.
That being said, the section is still moderated, and as stated within the rules; Normal forum rules such as sanctions on insults, inappropriate language, naming and shaming players, etc, will be enforced within this section, however friendly clan ribbing and clan rivalry is permitted within this section to some extent.
If you come across any forum rule violation, Please press the report button on such post, and it will help bring the offending post to the moderation team's attention.
Similarly any in game rule violations you come across may be captured with a replay file or screen-shots, and submitted to support.worldoftanks.com for a investigation.
I hope you continue to have fun with World of Tanks.
Let me share one of my support/ticket replies I wrote up recently. The figures are about 2 weeks old but you will get the gist of it..
Dear Player
Clan Rivalry thrives on the NA server. That is one of the main differences between the NA and EU servers.
For example.
On NA.
The Clan Rivalry / Diplomacy sections contains.
802 topics
43,593 replies
And as per the clan section rulings announced to all the clan sections, located here for your reference.
http://forum.worldof...-section-rules/
Clan Rivalry / Diplomacy
The current rules for the "Clan Rivalry / Diplomacy" section are as follows.
* This section contains the threads made by players for general clan rivalry and diplomacy. Since the purpose of this section revolves around clan rivalry, moderation will be lighter in this section due to clan rivalry belonging in this section.
* Normal forum rules such as sanctions on insults, inappropriate language, naming and shaming players, etc,, will be enforced within this section, however friendly clan ribbing and clan rivalry is permitted within this section to some extent.
* Any clan rivaly outside of this section, will be deemed as off-topic and shall be sanctioned.
The clan Rivalry / Diplomacy section is there for clan rivalry on the NA server and is lightly moderated.
On the EU server this was not the case. As such the EU Clan diplomacy section, Which doesn't allow clan rivalry, only contains 1/10th of the participation from the players.
84 topics
4,312 replies
43,000 posts on the NA server, compared to 4,300 posts on the EU server is a huge difference, Especially considering the EU server currently has approximately 3x the player base.
Effectively, that makes the clan rivalry section of NA server, 30x more active on a per player level.
We appreciate not all clans wish to partake in a lighter moderation situation, or partake in clan rivalry within the forums. But there is many sections within the forums and it is your choice as a player to post a thread into this section or not. If you do not wish to participate in a lightly moderated section specifically designed for clan rivalry, then you are free to not do so.
That being said, the section is still moderated, and as stated within the rules; Normal forum rules such as sanctions on insults, inappropriate language, naming and shaming players, etc, will be enforced within this section, however friendly clan ribbing and clan rivalry is permitted within this section to some extent.
If you come across any forum rule violation, Please press the report button on such post, and it will help bring the offending post to the moderation team's attention.
Similarly any in game rule violations you come across may be captured with a replay file or screen-shots, and submitted to support.worldoftanks.com for a investigation.
I hope you continue to have fun with World of Tanks.
Subject: What to do with all the trolls?
Link on message: #2087635
DeutschPantherV, on Jun 19 2012 - 05:03, said: Make a troll sub-forum that people who are registered trolls will
still be able to post/troll in even though they have doubtlessly
been banned. Moderate this section more loosely, and then you have
the perfect pressure release valve for the forums in which people
can blow off steam publicly without worrying about consequences.
Link on message: #2087635
DeutschPantherV, on Jun 19 2012 - 05:03, said: Make a troll sub-forum that people who are registered trolls will
still be able to post/troll in even though they have doubtlessly
been banned. Moderate this section more loosely, and then you have
the perfect pressure release valve for the forums in which people
can blow off steam publicly without worrying about consequences.Tanitha: Are you describing the clan diplomacy section?
Tan.
Tan.
Subject: Call on WOT to use there terms and conditions to del TK accounts
Link on message: #2087619
colwyn27, on Jun 19 2012 - 04:56, said: I am also curious if anyone knows of an account that actually got
deleteted for obvious breaches, does it happen?
Link on message: #2087619
colwyn27, on Jun 19 2012 - 04:56, said: I am also curious if anyone knows of an account that actually got
deleteted for obvious breaches, does it happen?Tanitha: Regularly.
But you need to report it for alt account use. Support wont manually place TK / FF bans.
Tk's are handled well automatically with escalating bans up to permanent.
Regards
Tan.
But you need to report it for alt account use. Support wont manually place TK / FF bans.
Tk's are handled well automatically with escalating bans up to permanent.
Regards
Tan.
Subject: FREE DUBSTEP!
Link on message: #2087570
xKelethox, on Jun 19 2012 - 04:44, said: No I just can't stand why this world is full of dirty secrets and
biased people.
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xKelethox, on Jun 19 2012 - 04:44, said: No I just can't stand why this world is full of dirty secrets and
biased people.Tanitha: 30 day game ban increased to permanent game ban.
Closing thread / Tan
Closing thread / Tan
Subject: Undeniably a bot - how has he not been banned?
Link on message: #2087542
EBRAddict, on Jun 19 2012 - 04:19, said: As long as the AFKer, bot, lamer, griefer, TKer and other players
put a statistically positive monetization score into the model they
will stay in game.
Link on message: #2087542
EBRAddict, on Jun 19 2012 - 04:19, said: As long as the AFKer, bot, lamer, griefer, TKer and other players
put a statistically positive monetization score into the model they
will stay in game.Tanitha: Please stick to the truth and facts, and this is far from it..
Anyway..
Feel free to pm me the players user name and I'll have a look. But I think i already investigated this one recently, (Well i investigated one with around 20,000 games recently anyway)
The stats showed (on the one i looked into), a varying degree of movement in each game, firing, and hitting targets. but nothing bot like except the large number of games.
Regards
Tan.
Anyway..
Feel free to pm me the players user name and I'll have a look. But I think i already investigated this one recently, (Well i investigated one with around 20,000 games recently anyway)
The stats showed (on the one i looked into), a varying degree of movement in each game, firing, and hitting targets. but nothing bot like except the large number of games.
Regards
Tan.
Subject: Undeniably a bot - how has he not been banned?
Link on message: #2087519
oldcrankyman, on Jun 18 2012 - 18:17, said: He probably hasn't been banned cause he buys a lot of gold.
Link on message: #2087519
oldcrankyman, on Jun 18 2012 - 18:17, said: He probably hasn't been banned cause he buys a lot of gold.Tanitha: Trust me, Gold has zero effect on any decisions I make.
Subject: SgtGrunt needs to die
Link on message: #2087463
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Tanitha: These aren't the Tanks you're looking for, move along.
Closing the thread
/Tan.
Closing the thread
/Tan.
Subject: Why does Wargaming HATE AMERICA!
Link on message: #2086763
Jedi_Jack_XI, on Jun 18 2012 - 22:09, said: Dear Wargaming,
You just had to do it didn't you! You are going to nerf the only good thing you have done for any U.S. tank. The T110E5 and the M103 are fantastic just the way they are. But, you have decided that you must fully destroy the only truly great tanks you have put in the American Tree. You nerfed the heck out of the T34 when you put it as premium and the T30 was a joke to begin with as far as armor was concerned. So you gave us smaller cannons and decent frontal armor and the one true advantage of owning the T110, and M103 is faster reload over its counterparts. But because these tanks can routinely stand up against the other tanks in the game and win you cannot allow that.
I was going to probably start spending REAL U.S. DOLLARS again on your games. I was going to purchase the Super Pershing. And who knows how much I was going to spend on WoWP. I however have decided that you have truly let your opinions of The United States of America cloud your judgement. You apparently hate us so much that you just keep taking things away. You have to really start earning my trust and respect again.
What kills me is that I have talked people that I play with in another extremely successful online FPS with to come and start playing WoT. They have spent money with your company. Please do not do anything to jeopardize the wonderful business that you have created here in the U.S. DON'T LET YOUR HATRED OF THE U.S.A. ruin your company,
Thank you,
Jedi-Jack
Link on message: #2086763
Jedi_Jack_XI, on Jun 18 2012 - 22:09, said: Dear Wargaming,You just had to do it didn't you! You are going to nerf the only good thing you have done for any U.S. tank. The T110E5 and the M103 are fantastic just the way they are. But, you have decided that you must fully destroy the only truly great tanks you have put in the American Tree. You nerfed the heck out of the T34 when you put it as premium and the T30 was a joke to begin with as far as armor was concerned. So you gave us smaller cannons and decent frontal armor and the one true advantage of owning the T110, and M103 is faster reload over its counterparts. But because these tanks can routinely stand up against the other tanks in the game and win you cannot allow that.
I was going to probably start spending REAL U.S. DOLLARS again on your games. I was going to purchase the Super Pershing. And who knows how much I was going to spend on WoWP. I however have decided that you have truly let your opinions of The United States of America cloud your judgement. You apparently hate us so much that you just keep taking things away. You have to really start earning my trust and respect again.
What kills me is that I have talked people that I play with in another extremely successful online FPS with to come and start playing WoT. They have spent money with your company. Please do not do anything to jeopardize the wonderful business that you have created here in the U.S. DON'T LET YOUR HATRED OF THE U.S.A. ruin your company,
Thank you,
Jedi-Jack
ARGO: Being an American and having helped WoT staff for over 2 years, I
can wholeheartedly say that I for one will NOT entertain this kind
of propaganda. I am sorry you feel that way but your judgement is
seriously flawed.
Thread closed to prevent further degredation
Thread closed to prevent further degredation
Subject: Winners of the French SPG contest!
Link on message: #2086125
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Gaea: FYI, all the honorable mentions should have received 5000 gold ;)
Subject: Winners of the French SPG contest!
Link on message: #2086125
Link on message: #2086125
Gaea: FYI, all the honorable mentions should have received 5000 gold ;)
Subject: Winners of the French SPG contest!
Link on message: #2086125
Link on message: #2086125
Gaea: FYI, all the honorable mentions should have received 5000 gold ;)
Subject: Winners of the French SPG contest!
Link on message: #2083738
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Gaea: Posting this for The_Chieftain:
Well, that was quite a slog, and thank you for your patience.
As I have said, there is no way I can go over every entry and explain what was liked and not liked. Hopefully this post will at least give an idea of the thought processes and general themes which were observed. Inevitably, there will be complaints, disagreements, shock, horror, and otherwise disapproval of some of this. Sorry. This is a subjective contest, I hope that again the below can be used to better get a sense of things for future use.
Firstly, I was impressed by the amount of pre-fall-of-France designs. Though the rules did allow technology up the the 1950s to be used, most of you eschewed this and went with conversions of pre-war designs. On the other hand, bigger is not necessarily better. I was surprised by the amount of designs that eschewed the mobility suggestion for colonial France. Giganaut, I’m looking at you as a prime example. Great render (I really liked the interior shot), but 120 tons?! Even if I think you’re overstating it and it probably would be closer to 70-80 tons, I just can’t imagine the French Army going for it. You weren’t alone, though, there were a number of monsters submitted. Yours was just one of the best monsters, though Xtrasus’ RKX 101 2A was one of the most eyecatching with its quad-track design.
Unfortunately, many of the modern ‘light’ designs were unsupported by documentation of note. Probably the best ‘light’ entry was Wasted4440’s AMX 13 LR 105, but it was brought down by the pictures (very well drawn ones) basically being of an M19 GMC with a single long cannon. As a result, pretty much the viable expeditionary vehicles were those based off the Renault and Hotchkiss hulls, but fortunately there were many such entries to choose from. Some even photoshopped from the same root picture! MVictor, lucitribal, lintzx2, gondur all had similar designs which made it to the final cut.
Indeed, most every basic vehicle the French had was modified into an artillery piece, starting at the very start with a number of FT-17 variants. I had said that it would be important to be able to distinguish the merits of your Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang from the other guy’s Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang, and sure enough, there were multiple designs of Char Bs with 105mm whizzbangs mounted, often in similar mounts. However, the most common theme was the AMX-50 with a turreted 155mm whizzbang mounted, there were a number of such designs, some looking more like GWPs than others. One of the more interesting AMX-50 designs was Dornele’s AMX Nouvelle, without a turret, the picture being an elegant hand-drawn affair. Sadly, I strongly doubt that a ‘wheelgun’ style un-sealed revolver would work. There were a higher number of pencil-drawn entrants than usual, and some of the drawings were of nearly artist (3d) or draughtsman (plan) quality. Much though I like pencil drawings to show that you don’t need to be a 3D render god in order to win these things, in this case the pencil entries tended not to be as flawless in concept or complete in background information (though there are some notable exceptions you’ll see later). Another AMX-50-155 design worthy of mention was theblackeagle’s simple yet elegant turretless mounting of a 155mm, equally beautiful in ‘watercolour’ style drawing was blackheart612’s Batchat 150.
All too often, an entry was simply a picture with only basic explanation. There was absolutely nothing wrong with, for example, with ING’s Bison-like mounting of a complete wheeled field gun mounted onto the top of the Char B chassis, but it came with scarcely a paragraph. Why select that over Jeterman’s slightly less expedient Char B1 bis artillerie, which was just as reasonable? One of the contrary entries to that was Vollketten’s very informative submission, but what looked like a 1945 skeletal supersized FT-17 with a 6” naval gun wasn’t going to pass the likelihood test. Similarly US_Rifle_Caliber_30_M1 deserves mention for the attention to detail he paid to the ammunition design. Not to be outdone by the German tank competition entry with a massive spreadsheet calculating armour plate weight, Cutthroatlemur’s entry included screenshots from a program which calculated the mass of armour automatically, including from compound curves. Seriously impressed with that.
The Science Fiction category was well catered for, with futuristic designs by, in particular, Dragonfly 7, xXSoulXx, and most enthusiastically, Darkwave0. Shinada’s Slydr 13k deserves to be posted up just for novelty value in this category. I’m not sure if Mer_petain was actually trying for the Sci-Fi category, or if he was just reading too much Jules Verne with his massive bulbous thing on a Char 2 chassis.
There were some elegant line drawing designs submitted, some of favourites being Sigemund’s S35-75 (Could be a waste of a modern chassis though), and LeGuin’s S35 75 (Probably looking at a lack of structural rigidity with that large gap in the front armour).
Only two wheeled entries of note, one based on an EBR chassis, the other seemed to be a G6 with a French gun. Nice idea on the mobility front, but the one doesn’t seem practical for the chassis, the other lacked a little of the originality.
Metalmechanic, I laughed, but the French running-away-jokes are getting a bit old…
So, to the prizes.
Firstly, the honourable mentions. These aren’t ‘runner up’ prizes, they are just things which particularly caught the eye for one reason or another.
Though a weakly supported entry, CPTKDSmith’s VBCP 39G is an example of “The good stuff looks simple.” The drawing, though only one, is perfect, and the vehicle sensible.

Corous’ ARL 155GPF won the “Keep people looking for the longest to make sure it actually is an invented vehicle” award. The photo is great, and the in-depth background info seemed quite plausible.

Cosmeister’s book gets a mention for being easily the most thorough submission. I’m not convinced by the merits of his AMA-37, but the effort put into it was remarkable.

Lindo7777 was not the only person to submit an entry in an unusual medium, but his wooden B3 not only manages to look French, but the gun moves in elevation as well!

There were a number of youth entries, which I fully encourage. Hellostanley’s Artillerie Monstre # X 100 was an enthusiastic, multi-page entry with attention to detail.

Lastly, Lostwingman just generally had an entirely logical development history for his SAu-39.

And to the placings.
5th was a ‘so near, yet so close’. Indeed, when I first saw it, I thought it was a winner, but alas, it dropped down due to the fact that only the one basic line drawing was included. Masterwolf’s AMX 13MMC met the mobility requirements for colonial service, would be suitable for most all terrain, was entirely feasible in terms of construction, and the French Army particularly was enamoured of dual-mode mortars in the post-war period so it meets the ‘character’ test. It was also one of the few mortar designs submitted.

In 4th, Chryb’s suitably ugly Bat Loraine 155 (AKA “The Pig”) is not too ambitious, but quite original. It seems to have nothing particularly ‘wrong’ with it, though a little more background info would have probably helped it climb the ladder

Third goes to Soldust’s AMR 33-105 "Pluie Battante." One can envision this as being the predecessor to the heavier, more modern French autoloader vehicles. It’s light, not too ambitious, and the gravity-fed clips in particular were unique. One can see this in service in Africa as easily as the Belgian border.
Scryer117’s AMX50 Lourde Artillerie 155 takes second place, being
the best of the many turreted AMX50 designs. His multiple-page
entry included plan drawings of components, a sensible autoloader
system, and was generally thoughtful and detailed.

The winner is a bit of a surprise. There were a couple of perfectly good Char 2C entries (Zitadelle43’s presentation being particularly appealing), but this one was the best of the bunch. What was the surprise, though, was that as the entrants were being sorted and resorted, this one kept rising to the top of them all, not just the 2Cs. It’s not a fancy entrant with amazing technology, it’s not an eye-catching 3D render (Though the plan views are very nice), it’s not even, in the big scheme of things, a practical gun. But it ‘works.’ The backstory is believeable, he seems to have covered all the bases when it comes to why such a thing would have ever existed, and the design doesn’t over-reach: The description of the vehicle, its expected capabilities and performance, seem to be accurate for what he envisioned. So, let’s give it up for Deathmongrel and his FCM 2C ca-forte Obusier D'assaut Automoteurs.

His complete entry is found at this link.
So, congratulations to all, and again, I encourage people to post up their designs to share the treats, even those I haven't mentioned.
Well, that was quite a slog, and thank you for your patience.
As I have said, there is no way I can go over every entry and explain what was liked and not liked. Hopefully this post will at least give an idea of the thought processes and general themes which were observed. Inevitably, there will be complaints, disagreements, shock, horror, and otherwise disapproval of some of this. Sorry. This is a subjective contest, I hope that again the below can be used to better get a sense of things for future use.
Firstly, I was impressed by the amount of pre-fall-of-France designs. Though the rules did allow technology up the the 1950s to be used, most of you eschewed this and went with conversions of pre-war designs. On the other hand, bigger is not necessarily better. I was surprised by the amount of designs that eschewed the mobility suggestion for colonial France. Giganaut, I’m looking at you as a prime example. Great render (I really liked the interior shot), but 120 tons?! Even if I think you’re overstating it and it probably would be closer to 70-80 tons, I just can’t imagine the French Army going for it. You weren’t alone, though, there were a number of monsters submitted. Yours was just one of the best monsters, though Xtrasus’ RKX 101 2A was one of the most eyecatching with its quad-track design.
Unfortunately, many of the modern ‘light’ designs were unsupported by documentation of note. Probably the best ‘light’ entry was Wasted4440’s AMX 13 LR 105, but it was brought down by the pictures (very well drawn ones) basically being of an M19 GMC with a single long cannon. As a result, pretty much the viable expeditionary vehicles were those based off the Renault and Hotchkiss hulls, but fortunately there were many such entries to choose from. Some even photoshopped from the same root picture! MVictor, lucitribal, lintzx2, gondur all had similar designs which made it to the final cut.
Indeed, most every basic vehicle the French had was modified into an artillery piece, starting at the very start with a number of FT-17 variants. I had said that it would be important to be able to distinguish the merits of your Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang from the other guy’s Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang, and sure enough, there were multiple designs of Char Bs with 105mm whizzbangs mounted, often in similar mounts. However, the most common theme was the AMX-50 with a turreted 155mm whizzbang mounted, there were a number of such designs, some looking more like GWPs than others. One of the more interesting AMX-50 designs was Dornele’s AMX Nouvelle, without a turret, the picture being an elegant hand-drawn affair. Sadly, I strongly doubt that a ‘wheelgun’ style un-sealed revolver would work. There were a higher number of pencil-drawn entrants than usual, and some of the drawings were of nearly artist (3d) or draughtsman (plan) quality. Much though I like pencil drawings to show that you don’t need to be a 3D render god in order to win these things, in this case the pencil entries tended not to be as flawless in concept or complete in background information (though there are some notable exceptions you’ll see later). Another AMX-50-155 design worthy of mention was theblackeagle’s simple yet elegant turretless mounting of a 155mm, equally beautiful in ‘watercolour’ style drawing was blackheart612’s Batchat 150.
All too often, an entry was simply a picture with only basic explanation. There was absolutely nothing wrong with, for example, with ING’s Bison-like mounting of a complete wheeled field gun mounted onto the top of the Char B chassis, but it came with scarcely a paragraph. Why select that over Jeterman’s slightly less expedient Char B1 bis artillerie, which was just as reasonable? One of the contrary entries to that was Vollketten’s very informative submission, but what looked like a 1945 skeletal supersized FT-17 with a 6” naval gun wasn’t going to pass the likelihood test. Similarly US_Rifle_Caliber_30_M1 deserves mention for the attention to detail he paid to the ammunition design. Not to be outdone by the German tank competition entry with a massive spreadsheet calculating armour plate weight, Cutthroatlemur’s entry included screenshots from a program which calculated the mass of armour automatically, including from compound curves. Seriously impressed with that.
The Science Fiction category was well catered for, with futuristic designs by, in particular, Dragonfly 7, xXSoulXx, and most enthusiastically, Darkwave0. Shinada’s Slydr 13k deserves to be posted up just for novelty value in this category. I’m not sure if Mer_petain was actually trying for the Sci-Fi category, or if he was just reading too much Jules Verne with his massive bulbous thing on a Char 2 chassis.
There were some elegant line drawing designs submitted, some of favourites being Sigemund’s S35-75 (Could be a waste of a modern chassis though), and LeGuin’s S35 75 (Probably looking at a lack of structural rigidity with that large gap in the front armour).
Only two wheeled entries of note, one based on an EBR chassis, the other seemed to be a G6 with a French gun. Nice idea on the mobility front, but the one doesn’t seem practical for the chassis, the other lacked a little of the originality.
Metalmechanic, I laughed, but the French running-away-jokes are getting a bit old…
So, to the prizes.
Firstly, the honourable mentions. These aren’t ‘runner up’ prizes, they are just things which particularly caught the eye for one reason or another.
Though a weakly supported entry, CPTKDSmith’s VBCP 39G is an example of “The good stuff looks simple.” The drawing, though only one, is perfect, and the vehicle sensible.

Corous’ ARL 155GPF won the “Keep people looking for the longest to make sure it actually is an invented vehicle” award. The photo is great, and the in-depth background info seemed quite plausible.

Cosmeister’s book gets a mention for being easily the most thorough submission. I’m not convinced by the merits of his AMA-37, but the effort put into it was remarkable.

Lindo7777 was not the only person to submit an entry in an unusual medium, but his wooden B3 not only manages to look French, but the gun moves in elevation as well!

There were a number of youth entries, which I fully encourage. Hellostanley’s Artillerie Monstre # X 100 was an enthusiastic, multi-page entry with attention to detail.

Lastly, Lostwingman just generally had an entirely logical development history for his SAu-39.

And to the placings.
5th was a ‘so near, yet so close’. Indeed, when I first saw it, I thought it was a winner, but alas, it dropped down due to the fact that only the one basic line drawing was included. Masterwolf’s AMX 13MMC met the mobility requirements for colonial service, would be suitable for most all terrain, was entirely feasible in terms of construction, and the French Army particularly was enamoured of dual-mode mortars in the post-war period so it meets the ‘character’ test. It was also one of the few mortar designs submitted.

In 4th, Chryb’s suitably ugly Bat Loraine 155 (AKA “The Pig”) is not too ambitious, but quite original. It seems to have nothing particularly ‘wrong’ with it, though a little more background info would have probably helped it climb the ladder

Third goes to Soldust’s AMR 33-105 "Pluie Battante." One can envision this as being the predecessor to the heavier, more modern French autoloader vehicles. It’s light, not too ambitious, and the gravity-fed clips in particular were unique. One can see this in service in Africa as easily as the Belgian border.
Scryer117’s AMX50 Lourde Artillerie 155 takes second place, being
the best of the many turreted AMX50 designs. His multiple-page
entry included plan drawings of components, a sensible autoloader
system, and was generally thoughtful and detailed.
The winner is a bit of a surprise. There were a couple of perfectly good Char 2C entries (Zitadelle43’s presentation being particularly appealing), but this one was the best of the bunch. What was the surprise, though, was that as the entrants were being sorted and resorted, this one kept rising to the top of them all, not just the 2Cs. It’s not a fancy entrant with amazing technology, it’s not an eye-catching 3D render (Though the plan views are very nice), it’s not even, in the big scheme of things, a practical gun. But it ‘works.’ The backstory is believeable, he seems to have covered all the bases when it comes to why such a thing would have ever existed, and the design doesn’t over-reach: The description of the vehicle, its expected capabilities and performance, seem to be accurate for what he envisioned. So, let’s give it up for Deathmongrel and his FCM 2C ca-forte Obusier D'assaut Automoteurs.

His complete entry is found at this link.
So, congratulations to all, and again, I encourage people to post up their designs to share the treats, even those I haven't mentioned.
Subject: Winners of the French SPG contest!
Link on message: #2083738
Link on message: #2083738
Gaea: Posting this for The_Chieftain:
Well, that was quite a slog, and thank you for your patience.
As I have said, there is no way I can go over every entry and explain what was liked and not liked. Hopefully this post will at least give an idea of the thought processes and general themes which were observed. Inevitably, there will be complaints, disagreements, shock, horror, and otherwise disapproval of some of this. Sorry. This is a subjective contest, I hope that again the below can be used to better get a sense of things for future use.
Firstly, I was impressed by the amount of pre-fall-of-France designs. Though the rules did allow technology up the the 1950s to be used, most of you eschewed this and went with conversions of pre-war designs. On the other hand, bigger is not necessarily better. I was surprised by the amount of designs that eschewed the mobility suggestion for colonial France. Giganaut, I’m looking at you as a prime example. Great render (I really liked the interior shot), but 120 tons?! Even if I think you’re overstating it and it probably would be closer to 70-80 tons, I just can’t imagine the French Army going for it. You weren’t alone, though, there were a number of monsters submitted. Yours was just one of the best monsters, though Xtrasus’ RKX 101 2A was one of the most eyecatching with its quad-track design.
Unfortunately, many of the modern ‘light’ designs were unsupported by documentation of note. Probably the best ‘light’ entry was Wasted4440’s AMX 13 LR 105, but it was brought down by the pictures (very well drawn ones) basically being of an M19 GMC with a single long cannon. As a result, pretty much the viable expeditionary vehicles were those based off the Renault and Hotchkiss hulls, but fortunately there were many such entries to choose from. Some even photoshopped from the same root picture! MVictor, lucitribal, lintzx2, gondur all had similar designs which made it to the final cut.
Indeed, most every basic vehicle the French had was modified into an artillery piece, starting at the very start with a number of FT-17 variants. I had said that it would be important to be able to distinguish the merits of your Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang from the other guy’s Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang, and sure enough, there were multiple designs of Char Bs with 105mm whizzbangs mounted, often in similar mounts. However, the most common theme was the AMX-50 with a turreted 155mm whizzbang mounted, there were a number of such designs, some looking more like GWPs than others. One of the more interesting AMX-50 designs was Dornele’s AMX Nouvelle, without a turret, the picture being an elegant hand-drawn affair. Sadly, I strongly doubt that a ‘wheelgun’ style un-sealed revolver would work. There were a higher number of pencil-drawn entrants than usual, and some of the drawings were of nearly artist (3d) or draughtsman (plan) quality. Much though I like pencil drawings to show that you don’t need to be a 3D render god in order to win these things, in this case the pencil entries tended not to be as flawless in concept or complete in background information (though there are some notable exceptions you’ll see later). Another AMX-50-155 design worthy of mention was theblackeagle’s simple yet elegant turretless mounting of a 155mm, equally beautiful in ‘watercolour’ style drawing was blackheart612’s Batchat 150.
All too often, an entry was simply a picture with only basic explanation. There was absolutely nothing wrong with, for example, with ING’s Bison-like mounting of a complete wheeled field gun mounted onto the top of the Char B chassis, but it came with scarcely a paragraph. Why select that over Jeterman’s slightly less expedient Char B1 bis artillerie, which was just as reasonable? One of the contrary entries to that was Vollketten’s very informative submission, but what looked like a 1945 skeletal supersized FT-17 with a 6” naval gun wasn’t going to pass the likelihood test. Similarly US_Rifle_Caliber_30_M1 deserves mention for the attention to detail he paid to the ammunition design. Not to be outdone by the German tank competition entry with a massive spreadsheet calculating armour plate weight, Cutthroatlemur’s entry included screenshots from a program which calculated the mass of armour automatically, including from compound curves. Seriously impressed with that.
The Science Fiction category was well catered for, with futuristic designs by, in particular, Dragonfly 7, xXSoulXx, and most enthusiastically, Darkwave0. Shinada’s Slydr 13k deserves to be posted up just for novelty value in this category. I’m not sure if Mer_petain was actually trying for the Sci-Fi category, or if he was just reading too much Jules Verne with his massive bulbous thing on a Char 2 chassis.
There were some elegant line drawing designs submitted, some of favourites being Sigemund’s S35-75 (Could be a waste of a modern chassis though), and LeGuin’s S35 75 (Probably looking at a lack of structural rigidity with that large gap in the front armour).
Only two wheeled entries of note, one based on an EBR chassis, the other seemed to be a G6 with a French gun. Nice idea on the mobility front, but the one doesn’t seem practical for the chassis, the other lacked a little of the originality.
Metalmechanic, I laughed, but the French running-away-jokes are getting a bit old…
So, to the prizes.
Firstly, the honourable mentions. These aren’t ‘runner up’ prizes, they are just things which particularly caught the eye for one reason or another.
Though a weakly supported entry, CPTKDSmith’s VBCP 39G is an example of “The good stuff looks simple.” The drawing, though only one, is perfect, and the vehicle sensible.
Corous’ ARL 155GPF won the “Keep people looking for the longest to make sure it actually is an invented vehicle” award. The photo is great, and the in-depth background info seemed quite plausible.
Cosmeister’s book gets a mention for being easily the most thorough submission. I’m not convinced by the merits of his AMA-37, but the effort put into it was remarkable.
Lindo7777 was not the only person to submit an entry in an unusual medium, but his wooden B3 not only manages to look French, but the gun moves in elevation as well!
There were a number of youth entries, which I fully encourage. Hellostanley’s Artillerie Monstre # X 100 was an enthusiastic, multi-page entry with attention to detail.
Lastly, Lostwingman just generally had an entirely logical development history for his SAu-39.

And to the placings.
5th was a ‘so near, yet so close’. Indeed, when I first saw it, I thought it was a winner, but alas, it dropped down due to the fact that only the one basic line drawing was included. Masterwolf’s AMX 13MMC met the mobility requirements for colonial service, would be suitable for most all terrain, was entirely feasible in terms of construction, and the French Army particularly was enamoured of dual-mode mortars in the post-war period so it meets the ‘character’ test. It was also one of the few mortar designs submitted.

In 4th, Chryb’s suitably ugly Bat Loraine 155 (AKA “The Pig”) is not too ambitious, but quite original. It seems to have nothing particularly ‘wrong’ with it, though a little more background info would have probably helped it climb the ladder

Third goes to Soldust’s AMR 33-105 "Pluie Battante." One can envision this as being the predecessor to the heavier, more modern French autoloader vehicles. It’s light, not too ambitious, and the gravity-fed clips in particular were unique. One can see this in service in Africa as easily as the Belgian border.
Scryer117’s AMX50 Lourde Artillerie 155 takes second place, being
the best of the many turreted AMX50 designs. His multiple-page
entry included plan drawings of components, a sensible autoloader
system, and was generally thoughtful and detailed.

The winner is a bit of a surprise. There were a couple of perfectly good Char 2C entries (Zitadelle43’s presentation being particularly appealing), but this one was the best of the bunch. What was the surprise, though, was that as the entrants were being sorted and resorted, this one kept rising to the top of them all, not just the 2Cs. It’s not a fancy entrant with amazing technology, it’s not an eye-catching 3D render (Though the plan views are very nice), it’s not even, in the big scheme of things, a practical gun. But it ‘works.’ The backstory is believeable, he seems to have covered all the bases when it comes to why such a thing would have ever existed, and the design doesn’t over-reach: The description of the vehicle, its expected capabilities and performance, seem to be accurate for what he envisioned. So, let’s give it up for Deathmongrel and his FCM 2C ca-forte Obusier D'assaut Automoteurs.

His complete entry is found at this link.
So, congratulations to all, and again, I encourage people to post up their designs to share the treats, even those I haven't mentioned.
Well, that was quite a slog, and thank you for your patience.
As I have said, there is no way I can go over every entry and explain what was liked and not liked. Hopefully this post will at least give an idea of the thought processes and general themes which were observed. Inevitably, there will be complaints, disagreements, shock, horror, and otherwise disapproval of some of this. Sorry. This is a subjective contest, I hope that again the below can be used to better get a sense of things for future use.
Firstly, I was impressed by the amount of pre-fall-of-France designs. Though the rules did allow technology up the the 1950s to be used, most of you eschewed this and went with conversions of pre-war designs. On the other hand, bigger is not necessarily better. I was surprised by the amount of designs that eschewed the mobility suggestion for colonial France. Giganaut, I’m looking at you as a prime example. Great render (I really liked the interior shot), but 120 tons?! Even if I think you’re overstating it and it probably would be closer to 70-80 tons, I just can’t imagine the French Army going for it. You weren’t alone, though, there were a number of monsters submitted. Yours was just one of the best monsters, though Xtrasus’ RKX 101 2A was one of the most eyecatching with its quad-track design.
Unfortunately, many of the modern ‘light’ designs were unsupported by documentation of note. Probably the best ‘light’ entry was Wasted4440’s AMX 13 LR 105, but it was brought down by the pictures (very well drawn ones) basically being of an M19 GMC with a single long cannon. As a result, pretty much the viable expeditionary vehicles were those based off the Renault and Hotchkiss hulls, but fortunately there were many such entries to choose from. Some even photoshopped from the same root picture! MVictor, lucitribal, lintzx2, gondur all had similar designs which made it to the final cut.
Indeed, most every basic vehicle the French had was modified into an artillery piece, starting at the very start with a number of FT-17 variants. I had said that it would be important to be able to distinguish the merits of your Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang from the other guy’s Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang, and sure enough, there were multiple designs of Char Bs with 105mm whizzbangs mounted, often in similar mounts. However, the most common theme was the AMX-50 with a turreted 155mm whizzbang mounted, there were a number of such designs, some looking more like GWPs than others. One of the more interesting AMX-50 designs was Dornele’s AMX Nouvelle, without a turret, the picture being an elegant hand-drawn affair. Sadly, I strongly doubt that a ‘wheelgun’ style un-sealed revolver would work. There were a higher number of pencil-drawn entrants than usual, and some of the drawings were of nearly artist (3d) or draughtsman (plan) quality. Much though I like pencil drawings to show that you don’t need to be a 3D render god in order to win these things, in this case the pencil entries tended not to be as flawless in concept or complete in background information (though there are some notable exceptions you’ll see later). Another AMX-50-155 design worthy of mention was theblackeagle’s simple yet elegant turretless mounting of a 155mm, equally beautiful in ‘watercolour’ style drawing was blackheart612’s Batchat 150.
All too often, an entry was simply a picture with only basic explanation. There was absolutely nothing wrong with, for example, with ING’s Bison-like mounting of a complete wheeled field gun mounted onto the top of the Char B chassis, but it came with scarcely a paragraph. Why select that over Jeterman’s slightly less expedient Char B1 bis artillerie, which was just as reasonable? One of the contrary entries to that was Vollketten’s very informative submission, but what looked like a 1945 skeletal supersized FT-17 with a 6” naval gun wasn’t going to pass the likelihood test. Similarly US_Rifle_Caliber_30_M1 deserves mention for the attention to detail he paid to the ammunition design. Not to be outdone by the German tank competition entry with a massive spreadsheet calculating armour plate weight, Cutthroatlemur’s entry included screenshots from a program which calculated the mass of armour automatically, including from compound curves. Seriously impressed with that.
The Science Fiction category was well catered for, with futuristic designs by, in particular, Dragonfly 7, xXSoulXx, and most enthusiastically, Darkwave0. Shinada’s Slydr 13k deserves to be posted up just for novelty value in this category. I’m not sure if Mer_petain was actually trying for the Sci-Fi category, or if he was just reading too much Jules Verne with his massive bulbous thing on a Char 2 chassis.
There were some elegant line drawing designs submitted, some of favourites being Sigemund’s S35-75 (Could be a waste of a modern chassis though), and LeGuin’s S35 75 (Probably looking at a lack of structural rigidity with that large gap in the front armour).
Only two wheeled entries of note, one based on an EBR chassis, the other seemed to be a G6 with a French gun. Nice idea on the mobility front, but the one doesn’t seem practical for the chassis, the other lacked a little of the originality.
Metalmechanic, I laughed, but the French running-away-jokes are getting a bit old…
So, to the prizes.
Firstly, the honourable mentions. These aren’t ‘runner up’ prizes, they are just things which particularly caught the eye for one reason or another.
Though a weakly supported entry, CPTKDSmith’s VBCP 39G is an example of “The good stuff looks simple.” The drawing, though only one, is perfect, and the vehicle sensible.
Corous’ ARL 155GPF won the “Keep people looking for the longest to make sure it actually is an invented vehicle” award. The photo is great, and the in-depth background info seemed quite plausible.
Cosmeister’s book gets a mention for being easily the most thorough submission. I’m not convinced by the merits of his AMA-37, but the effort put into it was remarkable.
Lindo7777 was not the only person to submit an entry in an unusual medium, but his wooden B3 not only manages to look French, but the gun moves in elevation as well!
There were a number of youth entries, which I fully encourage. Hellostanley’s Artillerie Monstre # X 100 was an enthusiastic, multi-page entry with attention to detail.
Lastly, Lostwingman just generally had an entirely logical development history for his SAu-39.

And to the placings.
5th was a ‘so near, yet so close’. Indeed, when I first saw it, I thought it was a winner, but alas, it dropped down due to the fact that only the one basic line drawing was included. Masterwolf’s AMX 13MMC met the mobility requirements for colonial service, would be suitable for most all terrain, was entirely feasible in terms of construction, and the French Army particularly was enamoured of dual-mode mortars in the post-war period so it meets the ‘character’ test. It was also one of the few mortar designs submitted.

In 4th, Chryb’s suitably ugly Bat Loraine 155 (AKA “The Pig”) is not too ambitious, but quite original. It seems to have nothing particularly ‘wrong’ with it, though a little more background info would have probably helped it climb the ladder

Third goes to Soldust’s AMR 33-105 "Pluie Battante." One can envision this as being the predecessor to the heavier, more modern French autoloader vehicles. It’s light, not too ambitious, and the gravity-fed clips in particular were unique. One can see this in service in Africa as easily as the Belgian border.
Scryer117’s AMX50 Lourde Artillerie 155 takes second place, being
the best of the many turreted AMX50 designs. His multiple-page
entry included plan drawings of components, a sensible autoloader
system, and was generally thoughtful and detailed.
The winner is a bit of a surprise. There were a couple of perfectly good Char 2C entries (Zitadelle43’s presentation being particularly appealing), but this one was the best of the bunch. What was the surprise, though, was that as the entrants were being sorted and resorted, this one kept rising to the top of them all, not just the 2Cs. It’s not a fancy entrant with amazing technology, it’s not an eye-catching 3D render (Though the plan views are very nice), it’s not even, in the big scheme of things, a practical gun. But it ‘works.’ The backstory is believeable, he seems to have covered all the bases when it comes to why such a thing would have ever existed, and the design doesn’t over-reach: The description of the vehicle, its expected capabilities and performance, seem to be accurate for what he envisioned. So, let’s give it up for Deathmongrel and his FCM 2C ca-forte Obusier D'assaut Automoteurs.

His complete entry is found at this link.
So, congratulations to all, and again, I encourage people to post up their designs to share the treats, even those I haven't mentioned.
Subject: Winners of the French SPG contest!
Link on message: #2083738
Link on message: #2083738
Gaea: Posting this for The_Chieftain:
Well, that was quite a slog, and thank you for your patience.
As I have said, there is no way I can go over every entry and explain what was liked and not liked. Hopefully this post will at least give an idea of the thought processes and general themes which were observed. Inevitably, there will be complaints, disagreements, shock, horror, and otherwise disapproval of some of this. Sorry. This is a subjective contest, I hope that again the below can be used to better get a sense of things for future use.
Firstly, I was impressed by the amount of pre-fall-of-France designs. Though the rules did allow technology up the the 1950s to be used, most of you eschewed this and went with conversions of pre-war designs. On the other hand, bigger is not necessarily better. I was surprised by the amount of designs that eschewed the mobility suggestion for colonial France. Giganaut, I’m looking at you as a prime example. Great render (I really liked the interior shot), but 120 tons?! Even if I think you’re overstating it and it probably would be closer to 70-80 tons, I just can’t imagine the French Army going for it. You weren’t alone, though, there were a number of monsters submitted. Yours was just one of the best monsters, though Xtrasus’ RKX 101 2A was one of the most eyecatching with its quad-track design.
Unfortunately, many of the modern ‘light’ designs were unsupported by documentation of note. Probably the best ‘light’ entry was Wasted4440’s AMX 13 LR 105, but it was brought down by the pictures (very well drawn ones) basically being of an M19 GMC with a single long cannon. As a result, pretty much the viable expeditionary vehicles were those based off the Renault and Hotchkiss hulls, but fortunately there were many such entries to choose from. Some even photoshopped from the same root picture! MVictor, lucitribal, lintzx2, gondur all had similar designs which made it to the final cut.
Indeed, most every basic vehicle the French had was modified into an artillery piece, starting at the very start with a number of FT-17 variants. I had said that it would be important to be able to distinguish the merits of your Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang from the other guy’s Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang, and sure enough, there were multiple designs of Char Bs with 105mm whizzbangs mounted, often in similar mounts. However, the most common theme was the AMX-50 with a turreted 155mm whizzbang mounted, there were a number of such designs, some looking more like GWPs than others. One of the more interesting AMX-50 designs was Dornele’s AMX Nouvelle, without a turret, the picture being an elegant hand-drawn affair. Sadly, I strongly doubt that a ‘wheelgun’ style un-sealed revolver would work. There were a higher number of pencil-drawn entrants than usual, and some of the drawings were of nearly artist (3d) or draughtsman (plan) quality. Much though I like pencil drawings to show that you don’t need to be a 3D render god in order to win these things, in this case the pencil entries tended not to be as flawless in concept or complete in background information (though there are some notable exceptions you’ll see later). Another AMX-50-155 design worthy of mention was theblackeagle’s simple yet elegant turretless mounting of a 155mm, equally beautiful in ‘watercolour’ style drawing was blackheart612’s Batchat 150.
All too often, an entry was simply a picture with only basic explanation. There was absolutely nothing wrong with, for example, with ING’s Bison-like mounting of a complete wheeled field gun mounted onto the top of the Char B chassis, but it came with scarcely a paragraph. Why select that over Jeterman’s slightly less expedient Char B1 bis artillerie, which was just as reasonable? One of the contrary entries to that was Vollketten’s very informative submission, but what looked like a 1945 skeletal supersized FT-17 with a 6” naval gun wasn’t going to pass the likelihood test. Similarly US_Rifle_Caliber_30_M1 deserves mention for the attention to detail he paid to the ammunition design. Not to be outdone by the German tank competition entry with a massive spreadsheet calculating armour plate weight, Cutthroatlemur’s entry included screenshots from a program which calculated the mass of armour automatically, including from compound curves. Seriously impressed with that.
The Science Fiction category was well catered for, with futuristic designs by, in particular, Dragonfly 7, xXSoulXx, and most enthusiastically, Darkwave0. Shinada’s Slydr 13k deserves to be posted up just for novelty value in this category. I’m not sure if Mer_petain was actually trying for the Sci-Fi category, or if he was just reading too much Jules Verne with his massive bulbous thing on a Char 2 chassis.
There were some elegant line drawing designs submitted, some of favourites being Sigemund’s S35-75 (Could be a waste of a modern chassis though), and LeGuin’s S35 75 (Probably looking at a lack of structural rigidity with that large gap in the front armour).
Only two wheeled entries of note, one based on an EBR chassis, the other seemed to be a G6 with a French gun. Nice idea on the mobility front, but the one doesn’t seem practical for the chassis, the other lacked a little of the originality.
Metalmechanic, I laughed, but the French running-away-jokes are getting a bit old…
So, to the prizes.
Firstly, the honourable mentions. These aren’t ‘runner up’ prizes, they are just things which particularly caught the eye for one reason or another.
Though a weakly supported entry, CPTKDSmith’s VBCP 39G is an example of “The good stuff looks simple.” The drawing, though only one, is perfect, and the vehicle sensible.
Corous’ ARL 155GPF won the “Keep people looking for the longest to make sure it actually is an invented vehicle” award. The photo is great, and the in-depth background info seemed quite plausible.
Cosmeister’s book gets a mention for being easily the most thorough submission. I’m not convinced by the merits of his AMA-37, but the effort put into it was remarkable.
Lindo7777 was not the only person to submit an entry in an unusual medium, but his wooden B3 not only manages to look French, but the gun moves in elevation as well!
There were a number of youth entries, which I fully encourage. Hellostanley’s Artillerie Monstre # X 100 was an enthusiastic, multi-page entry with attention to detail.
Lastly, Lostwingman just generally had an entirely logical development history for his SAu-39.

And to the placings.
5th was a ‘so near, yet so close’. Indeed, when I first saw it, I thought it was a winner, but alas, it dropped down due to the fact that only the one basic line drawing was included. Masterwolf’s AMX 13MMC met the mobility requirements for colonial service, would be suitable for most all terrain, was entirely feasible in terms of construction, and the French Army particularly was enamoured of dual-mode mortars in the post-war period so it meets the ‘character’ test. It was also one of the few mortar designs submitted.

In 4th, Chryb’s suitably ugly Bat Loraine 155 (AKA “The Pig”) is not too ambitious, but quite original. It seems to have nothing particularly ‘wrong’ with it, though a little more background info would have probably helped it climb the ladder

Third goes to Soldust’s AMR 33-105 "Pluie Battante." One can envision this as being the predecessor to the heavier, more modern French autoloader vehicles. It’s light, not too ambitious, and the gravity-fed clips in particular were unique. One can see this in service in Africa as easily as the Belgian border.
Scryer117’s AMX50 Lourde Artillerie 155 takes second place, being
the best of the many turreted AMX50 designs. His multiple-page
entry included plan drawings of components, a sensible autoloader
system, and was generally thoughtful and detailed.

The winner is a bit of a surprise. There were a couple of perfectly good Char 2C entries (Zitadelle43’s presentation being particularly appealing), but this one was the best of the bunch. What was the surprise, though, was that as the entrants were being sorted and resorted, this one kept rising to the top of them all, not just the 2Cs. It’s not a fancy entrant with amazing technology, it’s not an eye-catching 3D render (Though the plan views are very nice), it’s not even, in the big scheme of things, a practical gun. But it ‘works.’ The backstory is believeable, he seems to have covered all the bases when it comes to why such a thing would have ever existed, and the design doesn’t over-reach: The description of the vehicle, its expected capabilities and performance, seem to be accurate for what he envisioned. So, let’s give it up for Deathmongrel and his FCM 2C ca-forte Obusier D'assaut Automoteurs.

His complete entry is found at this link.
So, congratulations to all, and again, I encourage people to post up their designs to share the treats, even those I haven't mentioned.
Well, that was quite a slog, and thank you for your patience.
As I have said, there is no way I can go over every entry and explain what was liked and not liked. Hopefully this post will at least give an idea of the thought processes and general themes which were observed. Inevitably, there will be complaints, disagreements, shock, horror, and otherwise disapproval of some of this. Sorry. This is a subjective contest, I hope that again the below can be used to better get a sense of things for future use.
Firstly, I was impressed by the amount of pre-fall-of-France designs. Though the rules did allow technology up the the 1950s to be used, most of you eschewed this and went with conversions of pre-war designs. On the other hand, bigger is not necessarily better. I was surprised by the amount of designs that eschewed the mobility suggestion for colonial France. Giganaut, I’m looking at you as a prime example. Great render (I really liked the interior shot), but 120 tons?! Even if I think you’re overstating it and it probably would be closer to 70-80 tons, I just can’t imagine the French Army going for it. You weren’t alone, though, there were a number of monsters submitted. Yours was just one of the best monsters, though Xtrasus’ RKX 101 2A was one of the most eyecatching with its quad-track design.
Unfortunately, many of the modern ‘light’ designs were unsupported by documentation of note. Probably the best ‘light’ entry was Wasted4440’s AMX 13 LR 105, but it was brought down by the pictures (very well drawn ones) basically being of an M19 GMC with a single long cannon. As a result, pretty much the viable expeditionary vehicles were those based off the Renault and Hotchkiss hulls, but fortunately there were many such entries to choose from. Some even photoshopped from the same root picture! MVictor, lucitribal, lintzx2, gondur all had similar designs which made it to the final cut.
Indeed, most every basic vehicle the French had was modified into an artillery piece, starting at the very start with a number of FT-17 variants. I had said that it would be important to be able to distinguish the merits of your Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang from the other guy’s Char B hull with 105mm whizzbang, and sure enough, there were multiple designs of Char Bs with 105mm whizzbangs mounted, often in similar mounts. However, the most common theme was the AMX-50 with a turreted 155mm whizzbang mounted, there were a number of such designs, some looking more like GWPs than others. One of the more interesting AMX-50 designs was Dornele’s AMX Nouvelle, without a turret, the picture being an elegant hand-drawn affair. Sadly, I strongly doubt that a ‘wheelgun’ style un-sealed revolver would work. There were a higher number of pencil-drawn entrants than usual, and some of the drawings were of nearly artist (3d) or draughtsman (plan) quality. Much though I like pencil drawings to show that you don’t need to be a 3D render god in order to win these things, in this case the pencil entries tended not to be as flawless in concept or complete in background information (though there are some notable exceptions you’ll see later). Another AMX-50-155 design worthy of mention was theblackeagle’s simple yet elegant turretless mounting of a 155mm, equally beautiful in ‘watercolour’ style drawing was blackheart612’s Batchat 150.
All too often, an entry was simply a picture with only basic explanation. There was absolutely nothing wrong with, for example, with ING’s Bison-like mounting of a complete wheeled field gun mounted onto the top of the Char B chassis, but it came with scarcely a paragraph. Why select that over Jeterman’s slightly less expedient Char B1 bis artillerie, which was just as reasonable? One of the contrary entries to that was Vollketten’s very informative submission, but what looked like a 1945 skeletal supersized FT-17 with a 6” naval gun wasn’t going to pass the likelihood test. Similarly US_Rifle_Caliber_30_M1 deserves mention for the attention to detail he paid to the ammunition design. Not to be outdone by the German tank competition entry with a massive spreadsheet calculating armour plate weight, Cutthroatlemur’s entry included screenshots from a program which calculated the mass of armour automatically, including from compound curves. Seriously impressed with that.
The Science Fiction category was well catered for, with futuristic designs by, in particular, Dragonfly 7, xXSoulXx, and most enthusiastically, Darkwave0. Shinada’s Slydr 13k deserves to be posted up just for novelty value in this category. I’m not sure if Mer_petain was actually trying for the Sci-Fi category, or if he was just reading too much Jules Verne with his massive bulbous thing on a Char 2 chassis.
There were some elegant line drawing designs submitted, some of favourites being Sigemund’s S35-75 (Could be a waste of a modern chassis though), and LeGuin’s S35 75 (Probably looking at a lack of structural rigidity with that large gap in the front armour).
Only two wheeled entries of note, one based on an EBR chassis, the other seemed to be a G6 with a French gun. Nice idea on the mobility front, but the one doesn’t seem practical for the chassis, the other lacked a little of the originality.
Metalmechanic, I laughed, but the French running-away-jokes are getting a bit old…
So, to the prizes.
Firstly, the honourable mentions. These aren’t ‘runner up’ prizes, they are just things which particularly caught the eye for one reason or another.
Though a weakly supported entry, CPTKDSmith’s VBCP 39G is an example of “The good stuff looks simple.” The drawing, though only one, is perfect, and the vehicle sensible.
Corous’ ARL 155GPF won the “Keep people looking for the longest to make sure it actually is an invented vehicle” award. The photo is great, and the in-depth background info seemed quite plausible.
Cosmeister’s book gets a mention for being easily the most thorough submission. I’m not convinced by the merits of his AMA-37, but the effort put into it was remarkable.
Lindo7777 was not the only person to submit an entry in an unusual medium, but his wooden B3 not only manages to look French, but the gun moves in elevation as well!
There were a number of youth entries, which I fully encourage. Hellostanley’s Artillerie Monstre # X 100 was an enthusiastic, multi-page entry with attention to detail.
Lastly, Lostwingman just generally had an entirely logical development history for his SAu-39.

And to the placings.
5th was a ‘so near, yet so close’. Indeed, when I first saw it, I thought it was a winner, but alas, it dropped down due to the fact that only the one basic line drawing was included. Masterwolf’s AMX 13MMC met the mobility requirements for colonial service, would be suitable for most all terrain, was entirely feasible in terms of construction, and the French Army particularly was enamoured of dual-mode mortars in the post-war period so it meets the ‘character’ test. It was also one of the few mortar designs submitted.

In 4th, Chryb’s suitably ugly Bat Loraine 155 (AKA “The Pig”) is not too ambitious, but quite original. It seems to have nothing particularly ‘wrong’ with it, though a little more background info would have probably helped it climb the ladder

Third goes to Soldust’s AMR 33-105 "Pluie Battante." One can envision this as being the predecessor to the heavier, more modern French autoloader vehicles. It’s light, not too ambitious, and the gravity-fed clips in particular were unique. One can see this in service in Africa as easily as the Belgian border.
Scryer117’s AMX50 Lourde Artillerie 155 takes second place, being
the best of the many turreted AMX50 designs. His multiple-page
entry included plan drawings of components, a sensible autoloader
system, and was generally thoughtful and detailed.
The winner is a bit of a surprise. There were a couple of perfectly good Char 2C entries (Zitadelle43’s presentation being particularly appealing), but this one was the best of the bunch. What was the surprise, though, was that as the entrants were being sorted and resorted, this one kept rising to the top of them all, not just the 2Cs. It’s not a fancy entrant with amazing technology, it’s not an eye-catching 3D render (Though the plan views are very nice), it’s not even, in the big scheme of things, a practical gun. But it ‘works.’ The backstory is believeable, he seems to have covered all the bases when it comes to why such a thing would have ever existed, and the design doesn’t over-reach: The description of the vehicle, its expected capabilities and performance, seem to be accurate for what he envisioned. So, let’s give it up for Deathmongrel and his FCM 2C ca-forte Obusier D'assaut Automoteurs.

His complete entry is found at this link.
So, congratulations to all, and again, I encourage people to post up their designs to share the treats, even those I haven't mentioned.
Subject: Wargaming doesnt follow its own rules.
Link on message: #2083329
Link on message: #2083329
lord_farquad: Teams are chosen by the "Last Modified" attribute, when a team
applies the attribute updates and does not allow further
modification by team members. It should be noted that this
attribute is also modified again once the team is accepted.
If you believe you were eligible and not accepted, I would be more than happy to take a look, as we'd like to know if there are issues with the process. If you could provide your team name and a description of exactly what happened (and what you saw prior to it) in a PM that would be very helpful!
If you believe you were eligible and not accepted, I would be more than happy to take a look, as we'd like to know if there are issues with the process. If you could provide your team name and a description of exactly what happened (and what you saw prior to it) in a PM that would be very helpful!
Subject: Wargaming doesnt follow its own rules.
Link on message: #2083329
Link on message: #2083329
lord_farquad: Teams are chosen by the "Last Modified" attribute, when a team
applies the attribute updates and does not allow further
modification by team members. It should be noted that this
attribute is also modified again once the team is accepted.
If you believe you were eligible and not accepted, I would be more than happy to take a look, as we'd like to know if there are issues with the process. If you could provide your team name and a description of exactly what happened (and what you saw prior to it) in a PM that would be very helpful!
If you believe you were eligible and not accepted, I would be more than happy to take a look, as we'd like to know if there are issues with the process. If you could provide your team name and a description of exactly what happened (and what you saw prior to it) in a PM that would be very helpful!
Subject: My account was suspended... WHY?
Link on message: #2081041
McFeely, on Jun 18 2012 - 04:21, said: To admin,
I understand I should seek to resolve this issue with WG. I have started my end of the resolution process by submitting another ticket. I just came to the forums asking if anyone else has had the same issue. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Link on message: #2081041
McFeely, on Jun 18 2012 - 04:21, said: To admin,I understand I should seek to resolve this issue with WG. I have started my end of the resolution process by submitting another ticket. I just came to the forums asking if anyone else has had the same issue. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Vallter: No problems. We do understand that current 48 hours due time for a
response (though normally we answer much quicker) sometimes can be
disturbing. I just want to ask you for patience. Your ticket will
be answered on it's turn.
Subject: My account was suspended... WHY?
Link on message: #2081041
McFeely, on Jun 18 2012 - 03:21, said: To admin,
I understand I should seek to resolve this issue with WG. I have started my end of the resolution process by submitting another ticket. I just came to the forums asking if anyone else has had the same issue. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Link on message: #2081041
McFeely, on Jun 18 2012 - 03:21, said: To admin,I understand I should seek to resolve this issue with WG. I have started my end of the resolution process by submitting another ticket. I just came to the forums asking if anyone else has had the same issue. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Vallter:
No problems. We do understand that current 48 hours due time for a response (though normally we answer much quicker) sometimes can be disturbing. I just want to ask you for patience. Your ticket will be answered on it's turn.
No problems. We do understand that current 48 hours due time for a response (though normally we answer much quicker) sometimes can be disturbing. I just want to ask you for patience. Your ticket will be answered on it's turn.
Subject: My account was suspended... WHY?
Link on message: #2081041
McFeely, on Jun 18 2012 - 03:21, said: To admin,
I understand I should seek to resolve this issue with WG. I have started my end of the resolution process by submitting another ticket. I just came to the forums asking if anyone else has had the same issue. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Link on message: #2081041
McFeely, on Jun 18 2012 - 03:21, said: To admin,I understand I should seek to resolve this issue with WG. I have started my end of the resolution process by submitting another ticket. I just came to the forums asking if anyone else has had the same issue. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Vallter:
No problems. We do understand that current 48 hours due time for a response (though normally we answer much quicker) sometimes can be disturbing. I just want to ask you for patience. Your ticket will be answered on it's turn.
No problems. We do understand that current 48 hours due time for a response (though normally we answer much quicker) sometimes can be disturbing. I just want to ask you for patience. Your ticket will be answered on it's turn.
Subject: My account was suspended... WHY?
Link on message: #2080901
Link on message: #2080901
Vallter: Dear McFeely,
We totally understand your feelings, but since the issue is a private matter, please, contact our Customer Support via ticket system. We will investigate the issue you've faced and answer you ASAP.
https://support.worldoftanks.com/
We beg our pardon for any inconvenience caused.
We totally understand your feelings, but since the issue is a private matter, please, contact our Customer Support via ticket system. We will investigate the issue you've faced and answer you ASAP.
https://support.worldoftanks.com/
We beg our pardon for any inconvenience caused.
Subject: My account was suspended... WHY?
Link on message: #2080901
Link on message: #2080901
Vallter: Dear McFeely,
We totally understand your feelings, but since the issue is a private matter, please, contact our Customer Support via ticket system. We will investigate the issue you've faced and answer you ASAP.
https://support.worldoftanks.com/
We beg our pardon for any inconvenience caused.
We totally understand your feelings, but since the issue is a private matter, please, contact our Customer Support via ticket system. We will investigate the issue you've faced and answer you ASAP.
https://support.worldoftanks.com/
We beg our pardon for any inconvenience caused.
Subject: My account was suspended... WHY?
Link on message: #2080901
Link on message: #2080901
Vallter: Dear McFeely,
We totally understand your feelings, but since the issue is a private matter, please, contact our Customer Support via ticket system. We will investigate the issue you've faced and answer you ASAP.
https://support.worldoftanks.com/
We beg our pardon for any inconvenience caused.
We totally understand your feelings, but since the issue is a private matter, please, contact our Customer Support via ticket system. We will investigate the issue you've faced and answer you ASAP.
https://support.worldoftanks.com/
We beg our pardon for any inconvenience caused.
Subject: Where do I report a Admin abuse?
Link on message: #2080588
MrSmexy, on Jun 17 2012 - 19:42, said: What's the support link where you submit Pictures of a admin
abusing their powers by threating the community? Ran into a admins
"friend" who then got his buddy to chat ban me. So, Where do I
submit these pictures at? I received the chat ban after I TK'ed the
guy threating that he was of "Elite" statues in the WoT community
cause I got tired of their impersonating.
Link on message: #2080588
MrSmexy, on Jun 17 2012 - 19:42, said: What's the support link where you submit Pictures of a admin
abusing their powers by threating the community? Ran into a admins
"friend" who then got his buddy to chat ban me. So, Where do I
submit these pictures at? I received the chat ban after I TK'ed the
guy threating that he was of "Elite" statues in the WoT community
cause I got tired of their impersonating.Vallter: Please, PM me the screenshots. I will take a look on this case.
Subject: Hi guys, it's just a game. No need to be rude.
Link on message: #2080576
Link on message: #2080576
Vallter: We always should stay cool and polite. Because even if anything
goes wrong in this battle, it will be better in another.
Also if someone is swearing, and if it even not towards you, please, report that person. They are normally spoiling fun to all.
Also if someone is swearing, and if it even not towards you, please, report that person. They are normally spoiling fun to all.
Subject: Hi guys, it's just a game. No need to be rude.
Link on message: #2080576
Link on message: #2080576
Vallter: We always should stay cool and polite. Because even if anything
goes wrong in this battle, it will be better in another.
Also if someone is swearing, and if it even not towards you, please, report that person. They are normally spoiling fun to all.
Also if someone is swearing, and if it even not towards you, please, report that person. They are normally spoiling fun to all.
Subject: Hi guys, it's just a game. No need to be rude.
Link on message: #2080576
Link on message: #2080576
Vallter: We always should stay cool and polite. Because even if anything
goes wrong in this battle, it will be better in another.
Also if someone is swearing, and if it even not towards you, please, report that person. They are normally spoiling fun to all.
Also if someone is swearing, and if it even not towards you, please, report that person. They are normally spoiling fun to all.
Subject: reverse the 1-2% hps left after a sure death hit...
Link on message: #2080521
Link on message: #2080521
Vallter: I assure you that no such changes were performed. And I, as a
player as well, can understand the pain, when sometimes enemy gets
away with 1-5% lefts. But this is not something done
specificly.
Side note, on EU I have seen the thread with player stating that guns deals more damage specificly to kill him and not leave with 1-5% -)
Side note, on EU I have seen the thread with player stating that guns deals more damage specificly to kill him and not leave with 1-5% -)
Subject: reverse the 1-2% hps left after a sure death hit...
Link on message: #2080521
Link on message: #2080521
Vallter: I assure you that no such changes were performed. And I, as a
player as well, can understand the pain, when sometimes enemy gets
away with 1-5% lefts. But this is not something done
specificly.
Side note, on EU I have seen the thread with player stating that guns deals more damage specificly to kill him and not leave with 1-5% -)
Side note, on EU I have seen the thread with player stating that guns deals more damage specificly to kill him and not leave with 1-5% -)
Subject: reverse the 1-2% hps left after a sure death hit...
Link on message: #2080521
Link on message: #2080521
Vallter: I assure you that no such changes were performed. And I, as a
player as well, can understand the pain, when sometimes enemy gets
away with 1-5% lefts. But this is not something done
specificly.
Side note, on EU I have seen the thread with player stating that guns deals more damage specificly to kill him and not leave with 1-5% -)
Side note, on EU I have seen the thread with player stating that guns deals more damage specificly to kill him and not leave with 1-5% -)
Subject: Fan Art Spotlight #25
Link on message: #2079949
Konigwolfen, on Jun 16 2012 - 03:55, said: Isnt fanart supposed to be of tanks in the game?...if so then the
M1 shouldn't be there
Link on message: #2079949
Konigwolfen, on Jun 16 2012 - 03:55, said: Isnt fanart supposed to be of tanks in the game?...if so then the
M1 shouldn't be thereGeneralDirection: No, it's not. 
Subject: Wargaming America Tank company
Link on message: #2079940
Link on message: #2079940
GeneralDirection: Gold for tank company events is always sent out the week following
the tank company. Gaea is not in the office on the weekend, and
thus cannot send in the payment request until the following Monday.
Subject: -SDS-Shadow Dragon Society-Mature relaxed clan
Link on message: #2077584
Link on message: #2077584
Tanitha: Closed at clan leaders request
Subject: Finest Hour Special: Churchill
Link on message: #2076295
ForcestormX, on Jun 17 2012 - 03:13, said: I just got this:
Victory!
Battle: Murovanka Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:01:27 PM
Vehicle: Churchill
Experience received: 8,670 (x3 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 120,882
Battle Achievements: Mastery Badge: Ace Tanker, Master Gunner, Sniper, Top Gun
Thank you for tempting me into rebuying it.
Link on message: #2076295
ForcestormX, on Jun 17 2012 - 03:13, said: I just got this:Victory!
Battle: Murovanka Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:01:27 PM
Vehicle: Churchill
Experience received: 8,670 (x3 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 120,882
Battle Achievements: Mastery Badge: Ace Tanker, Master Gunner, Sniper, Top Gun
Thank you for tempting me into rebuying it.
GeneralDirection: Nice! 
Subject: WOT needs to seperate it's workers, from players who work there!
Link on message: #2076266
Link on message: #2076266
GeneralDirection: jimmy_dice711, teams are accepted in the order in which they
applied for the tournament. When you apply, it locks your roster
and sets a modified date. That date is what is used to sort and
accept teams.
Thus, unless there was a very rare bug that caused your team's last modified date to be set incorrectly, it was not one of the first 64 teams to apply.
If you would like this looked into, you'll need to open a support ticket.
Thus, unless there was a very rare bug that caused your team's last modified date to be set incorrectly, it was not one of the first 64 teams to apply.
If you would like this looked into, you'll need to open a support ticket.
Subject: Players Questions and Developers Answers
Link on message: #2075069
MysteryINF, on Jun 16 2012 - 05:27, said: why you NERF the USA line more than any other and keep Buffing the
USSR?
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: Are the following features/changes shelved or just on the
backburner?:
- Horns
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: - Adaptive camo
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: - Night battles/maps with headlights
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: - VK 3601 H being made a heavy
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: Also, are British stanks still slated for this year? One of the
devs mentioning "probably 0.8.x" has me feeling a bit skeptical.
gilrad, on Jun 16 2012 - 16:03, said: So what were the specific reasons for taking Swamp and Komarin off
the map rotation? Too many landslide victories? Too many time out
games? One side ends up winning more often than not? Is the game
simply getting too many maps in the random map rotation? I find it
kind of strange because, while they're not exactly the most popular
maps, there wasn't nearly as much of a movement to get them removed
as there was for Provinces.
Link on message: #2075069
MysteryINF, on Jun 16 2012 - 05:27, said: why you NERF the USA line more than any other and keep Buffing the
USSR?GeneralDirection: You're going to have to be specific here. If it's about the T110,
it was very obvious it needed some tweaks.
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: Are the following features/changes shelved or just on the
backburner?:- Horns
GeneralDirection: Shelved, but will come at some point.
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: - Adaptive camoGeneralDirection: In development at the moment; no ETA.
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: - Night battles/maps with headlightsGeneralDirection: Requires the new rendering engine, which is currently in
development.
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: - VK 3601 H being made a heavyGeneralDirection: Shelved for the time being.
Horrorsh0w, on Jun 16 2012 - 08:11, said: Also, are British stanks still slated for this year? One of the
devs mentioning "probably 0.8.x" has me feeling a bit skeptical.GeneralDirection: Yes. Keep in mind that the version changing from 7 to 8 just means
a major revision--which introducing a new tech tree would be.
gilrad, on Jun 16 2012 - 16:03, said: So what were the specific reasons for taking Swamp and Komarin off
the map rotation? Too many landslide victories? Too many time out
games? One side ends up winning more often than not? Is the game
simply getting too many maps in the random map rotation? I find it
kind of strange because, while they're not exactly the most popular
maps, there wasn't nearly as much of a movement to get them removed
as there was for Provinces.GeneralDirection: We felt the gameplay on the maps was far too stagnant and not
interesting enough. So that combined with player feedback was
enough reason to warrant removing them from random battles.
They are still there for tank companies, clan wars and tournaments--where teams go in with strategies and the battles will likely flow a little better than when playing in a random battle.
They are still there for tank companies, clan wars and tournaments--where teams go in with strategies and the battles will likely flow a little better than when playing in a random battle.
Subject: WOT needs to seperate it's workers, from players who work there!
Link on message: #2075002
jimmy_dice711, on Jun 16 2012 - 12:54, said: Well once again WOT seems to have screwed over our DCM clan yet
again.. Tired of the issues going unanswered anytime there is a
problem. 1st it was clan tags not showing up on our tanks. Spent
1000 gold trying to fix it only to get 0 help/answers from anyone
responding (or not responding I should say) to the tickets we put
in.. Took 2 months later and I had to fix it myself by searching
though 3,782 computer files and deleting them 1 at a time til we
figured it out. Yeah not our fault WOT neglects to tell you that
thier old cache files from 7.1 & 7.2 need to be deleted
beforehand.. But hey we did get the usual response 3 weeks later
from them "WE ASSUME THAT SINCE WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU THAT
THIS MATTER HAS SINCE BEEN RESOLVED".. Oh yeah it has, by me not
you!! Then the send back only 500 of the 1000 gold it took for
thier mistake?
Now we have a major issue (Topic Of Post) with the tourn layouts and the way they are run by biased players/workers. We entered the "SKIRMISH V" tourn as we always do with all tourns on here. We applied early 5th or 10th waaaaay before other "accepted teams" only to see we are now left out? I sent in a complaint to the (non-existant GAME MASTER) only to get 0 results as usual >>> "Why is it that we were not accepted and put into the tourn, but our DCM "B Squad" made it? I helped them form thier team and put it all together (A FULL 24 HOURS AFTER WE HAD ALREADY APPLIED!!) Kinda strange the way we are "pending approval" 2 days before other teams even thought about signing up, and now we aint in?? Guess there must be some other issue since clearly we were among the top 10 teams to apply early on 06.14.2012 10:17 as you can see.
Well it seems someone has been pissed off about a new clan coming into these tourns and decimating these "Old Clans" who have been running over people since the start. We are in the "Brody Ante finals" and cracked some pretty decent players skulls on the road to our victory. So now someone don't like that and leaves us out of the next tourns?? Yeah guess the WOT people never heard of "conflict of interest" and feel the need to seperate the players from the players who work there who also have control over different outcomes. How come some "special teams" got byes to the 3rd round without having to play? Seems to always be the same couple teams who get them also... Oh maybe it has to do with who was on the team and who works there? I don't know but maybe some answers now would be nice instead of the same old form letter 3 weeks after the fact.
Link on message: #2075002
jimmy_dice711, on Jun 16 2012 - 12:54, said: Well once again WOT seems to have screwed over our DCM clan yet
again.. Tired of the issues going unanswered anytime there is a
problem. 1st it was clan tags not showing up on our tanks. Spent
1000 gold trying to fix it only to get 0 help/answers from anyone
responding (or not responding I should say) to the tickets we put
in.. Took 2 months later and I had to fix it myself by searching
though 3,782 computer files and deleting them 1 at a time til we
figured it out. Yeah not our fault WOT neglects to tell you that
thier old cache files from 7.1 & 7.2 need to be deleted
beforehand.. But hey we did get the usual response 3 weeks later
from them "WE ASSUME THAT SINCE WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU THAT
THIS MATTER HAS SINCE BEEN RESOLVED".. Oh yeah it has, by me not
you!! Then the send back only 500 of the 1000 gold it took for
thier mistake?Now we have a major issue (Topic Of Post) with the tourn layouts and the way they are run by biased players/workers. We entered the "SKIRMISH V" tourn as we always do with all tourns on here. We applied early 5th or 10th waaaaay before other "accepted teams" only to see we are now left out? I sent in a complaint to the (non-existant GAME MASTER) only to get 0 results as usual >>> "Why is it that we were not accepted and put into the tourn, but our DCM "B Squad" made it? I helped them form thier team and put it all together (A FULL 24 HOURS AFTER WE HAD ALREADY APPLIED!!) Kinda strange the way we are "pending approval" 2 days before other teams even thought about signing up, and now we aint in?? Guess there must be some other issue since clearly we were among the top 10 teams to apply early on 06.14.2012 10:17 as you can see.
Well it seems someone has been pissed off about a new clan coming into these tourns and decimating these "Old Clans" who have been running over people since the start. We are in the "Brody Ante finals" and cracked some pretty decent players skulls on the road to our victory. So now someone don't like that and leaves us out of the next tourns?? Yeah guess the WOT people never heard of "conflict of interest" and feel the need to seperate the players from the players who work there who also have control over different outcomes. How come some "special teams" got byes to the 3rd round without having to play? Seems to always be the same couple teams who get them also... Oh maybe it has to do with who was on the team and who works there? I don't know but maybe some answers now would be nice instead of the same old form letter 3 weeks after the fact.
GeneralDirection: The team's "last modified" date is changed when a team is accepted.
I can assure you the 64 teams accepted had applied for
participation before your team.
Please feel free to point out the "players" who you feel "have control" of the tournaments.
Please feel free to point out the "players" who you feel "have control" of the tournaments.
Subject: To whomever it may concern
Link on message: #2073268
Link on message: #2073268
Hypnotik: I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that AOD had/has zombies playing for them.
Subject: New Round of Gift Shop Offers in June
Link on message: #2071010
dra6o0n, on Jun 16 2012 - 00:49, said: T34 package costs you 53.33 but the T34 costs 12,000 gold which is
49.95.
So 500 gold costs you 3.77?
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dra6o0n, on Jun 16 2012 - 00:49, said: T34 package costs you 53.33 but the T34 costs 12,000 gold which is
49.95.So 500 gold costs you 3.77?
GeneralDirection: A T34 in the in-game store does not come with a garage slot, which
this one does. So that's 800 gold extra.
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