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Дата: 27.09.2016 18:00:44
DeadDotEd, on Sep 26 2016 - 16:16, said: I don't think I've played any tournaments since March, so does that
mean I have no chance at getting a headset if I join this
tournament?dance210: Yes, you have played in tournaments since March 
Exigaet, on Sep 26 2016 - 18:27, said: If my understanding of the rules is correct, "Standard" and "New"
teams have no chance of winning the Type 59 which I think is pretty
dumb. I've been doing tournaments for over two years and I don't
think I'd qualify for the "Premium" teams which means I'd be bumped
down to "Standard" and only be able to earn 32 total points. So
because I'm not a super unicum and can't do well in every single
tournament, I have no chance of a Type 59. dance210: Couple of things to hopefully clear up confusion. 1. It will
be harder for teams in the Standard group to earn as many points;
however, harder isn't the same as impossible. It partly depends on
if teams can win consistently at different tiers and the final
number of participants - more unique participants means more
players are in the top 1% at the end. This also isn't the
first time that we've run a tournament where the overall prize is
skewed towards one group. 2. The top 1/3 of teams won't
be all super unicum teams; they should all be highly competitive
teams. Also, more teams participating in each tournament means more
teams are in the Premium group.
azriel000, on Sep 26 2016 - 20:48, said: 2 Questions:-Can you post the formula for this new rating system?
-Is there a chance to see our rating in-game or somewhere before the tourny starts?
dance210: 1. No, at this time the exact formula will not be posted. It was
already mentioned that players will try to "game" the system.
2. Unfortunately, right now we don't have a way to show the
ratings.
Thambry, on Sep 26 2016 - 22:18, said: the whole thing is not worth the trouble as only the top 5 of each
group win something - unlike before where (for example) the top 50%
win something. Depending on how many teams sign in, its useless to
participate unless you play exceptionally well.A badly thought through event that favours experts but does not motivate new/inexperienced players. Another fail, WG!
dance210: I would argue that 5 out of 10 teams winning gold in each group
still means that 50% of the players will win something.
Compared to random group creation, this is actually a bit more fair
to newer/inexperienced teams. With random groups, a new team is
just as likely to end up in a group with all experience/superunicum
teams as they are to end up in a group with other new or
inexperienced teams. People generally don't have fun getting beat
up on by other teams all the time; one of the biggest complaints
I've heard is that they wished there was some sort of a ranking
system for teams. Using a rating system, teams are matched
with other teams that are around their rating level, providing a
theoretically more balanced group. New teams are introduced to
tournaments by playing against other new teams and, because teams
are generally more balanced, should have a fair shot at earning
some gold.
Chillsau, on Sep 26 2016 - 23:53, said: Doing a tournament rating in World of Tanks is a terrible idea that
is doomed to fail. If I remember right, WGA tried that a few years
ago and it was a huge failure, since any such rating just doesn't
work for the kind of team-based tournaments that WoT uses. It's an
especially poor idea when there are a large number of WoT
tournaments with no entry fee and no real prize, meaning that
intentional manipulation of rating can be achieved if there's a
reason to do so. As far as I can tell, all this rating system seems
to be doing is punishing players that want to start doing
tournaments, since if you're going from just playing in pub games
or clan stuff and want to start doing tournaments, you're going to
get stuck in a tournament bracket where the prizes aren't worth the
effort. That seems quite poor if you want to grow the playerbase.
And god help you all if you're trying to use ELO again.
There are many reasons why Magic the Gathering stopped
using ELO.dance210: Several years ago, before I started working at WG, there was an ELO
system for tournament teams. If I recall correctly, it actually
worked pretty well and my team enjoyed it until it was removed.
This system, however, is not an ELO system. I believe what
you are referring to was when we used a modified Swiss-system,
which did not work very well based on how we tried to implement it.
That wasn't actually a rating system that persists across
tournaments, which is what this is intended to be. The idea
behind using a rating system to organize teams into
groups/leagues/ladders is not new. Doing well in tournaments allows
you to increase your rating and earn better prizes while facing
teams around your level. New teams will temporarily be in
the New Team group and yes, for this specific tournament, they will
receive lower gold amounts. However, that doesn't mean that in
any/all future tournaments, the prizes will be lower for the newer
teams.
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