Remove arty stunning teammates
Дата: 19.06.2021 05:40:14
Craig234, on Jun 18 2021 - 14:42, said: You don't seem to understand the idea of blame. What if
Wargaming made it to every time your tank shot, it charged your
teammates 10 credits? Would it be 'your fault' they got
charged?Yes, in the sense you still chose to shoot enemies and play the game knowing they'd get charged, that's 'your fault'. But the blame is on Wargaming for making that the design. In other words, telling Arty - who is already very limited as to when they get targets - 'if there's an ally near, don't damage the enemy, don't get the reward for your tank of doing damage', is often a bad idea and pretty clearly a badly balanced set of incentives. It's bad design, so deal with that, instead of trying to blame arty for dealing with the bad design and the impact Wargaming created. Other tanks don't have to deal with that tradeoff, and Arty shouldn't either.
churchill50:
That argument is rather thin. Not to mention the first part is so utterly hyperbolic it's not even funny.Back when team damage was a thing, do you think people who fired into a group of brawling tanks and damaged a friendly weren't to blame?Do you think people who push you out into enemy fire aren't to blame?Both of those are things that WG allow (or did allow in the past). Doesn't mean you aren't to blame for doing them. Any system can be gamed, so personal culpability for your own actions is still an important thing to take note of. To be honest though, I'm not sure why we're arguing. We both want team stun to be removed, unless I read your opening post incorrectly. Whether arty players are to blame for stunning teammates right now is only a sidepoint.
That argument is rather thin. Not to mention the first part is so utterly hyperbolic it's not even funny.Back when team damage was a thing, do you think people who fired into a group of brawling tanks and damaged a friendly weren't to blame?Do you think people who push you out into enemy fire aren't to blame?Both of those are things that WG allow (or did allow in the past). Doesn't mean you aren't to blame for doing them. Any system can be gamed, so personal culpability for your own actions is still an important thing to take note of. To be honest though, I'm not sure why we're arguing. We both want team stun to be removed, unless I read your opening post incorrectly. Whether arty players are to blame for stunning teammates right now is only a sidepoint.
StoolSamples, on Jun 18 2021 - 15:22, said: do I care if I stun you? nope. do I alter my shots if you are near
my target? nope. after years of being tk'ed for playing arty
consider it kharma. and yes just like the platoons that gamed the
tk system by only shooting once this arty stun system is just as
easily gamed. so here's to stunning you as often as you are near my
target. I suggest you learn to deal with it as best you can.churchill50:
People teamkilling arty was one of the major reasons to remove team damage. You're one of the major reasons for removing team stun.What was your point again?
People teamkilling arty was one of the major reasons to remove team damage. You're one of the major reasons for removing team stun.What was your point again?
Remove arty stunning teammates