Close range - weak, far range- strong? hmmm
Дата: 30.01.2014 22:13:55
Digimaks, on Jan 28 2014 - 02:24, said: Many people noticed strange physics anomaly in the game.When you fight tanks at point blank range - quite often you tend to cause less damage, and tend to get bounced shells more often. While shooting at far distance- you cause more damage and less bounces!
How can this be explained??? That is not physically correct.
Speaking of physics - the initial potential power of the shell is far greater then at a distance. The shell hitting targets at closer range should be able to pack significantly stronger punch, regardless of armor (unless its a Maus, or similar type of monster).
Also, at a point blank range, the hull angles should be less effective due to initial shell velocity.
I am particularly surprised when something like Hellcat or Cromwell can bounce a 152mm HE shell with no damage at all, when being fired at 5 meter range!
WOT development team should take shell initial power/mass VS distance into account. Not just Pen power and angles.
Also, let's say OK- I encounter AT-8 on KV-2 about 10 meters, and shoot 152mm shell into its front hull. Yes, there might be no chance to pen that easy. However- being hit with such a huge shell with such velocity- should certainly pass a tremendous shock wave through AT's hull, and damage crucial units and crew. I hope the WOT dev team put some attention to this issue and get it fixed. Many people had that problem happen very often.
P.S. Sometimes I have seen my 203mm artillery HE shell gets bounced.
Trevzor: This is going to be a little dense, but I will explain all of your
issues Your damage observation: Range from a tank does
not play into the amount of damage that you do to said tank. Range
only impacts penetration and only for AP type shells. Penetration
is not calculated into damage either. So shooting an ELC AMX with
an E100's top gun with more that 230 pen through the ELC's 14
frontal armor will not yield any more damage than punching through
the 150 side armor of the E100's turret would. Damage is controlled
by its own separate RNG that is unaffected by distance.
Shell's power over distance: As stated before, distance only
impacts the penetration of AP type shells. The farther away you
are, the less penetration you have. So, essentially yes, the closer
you are the less armor angle will impact the penetration of your
shot. HE penetration mechanics: HE shells normally don't
fully penetrate a tank, their penetration value is far too low. HE
shells, when they do not successfully penetrate a tank normally,
don't bounce but explode. At this point, the blast radius is used
coupled with the Damage roll on the RNG to find the weakest part of
the tank to penetrate and do just that. The damage roll that was
used to penetrate does not cause damage to the tank, only the
remaining damage roll does. It is important to note that the
damage roll that is used is FAR GREATER than the amount of armor
you are trying to penetrate. It is because of this a direct hit
with a 203mm artillery shell with a base damage on a heavy tank may
only yield 400 damage to the actual tank. It is also
possible for a tank to "eat" the HE shell. This happens when the
shell hits a tank in an area that would cause no damage, i.e. the
tracks, and explodes far away from the parts of the tank that would
cause damage. In this fashion, it is possible for a tank to take
what seems like a huge shell and essentially walk away from the hit
with nothing more than a broken track. HE crew damage
mechanics: Originally in earlier patches of World of Tanks this
type of damage model was implemented, but HE shells were causing
tanks to experience full crew death so early into the match that
matches were neither fun nor interesting. Because of this, the
mechanic was change to HE was made to cause less critical damage as
well as not being able to knock out more than half of the crew
in one shot. For more information on how penetration and
shell mechanics works, please check out our wiki here:
Penetration Mechanics I hope this clears up your
confusion!
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