T110's Northern Migration
Дата: 05.10.2017 04:17:27
Kenshin2kx, on Oct 04 2017 - 22:37, said: Hmmmm ... I think that is a good place to start ... question
though, is this definition, in any way divergent , for say the
military definition? I think the goal here would be to
establish a fairly concrete and universal (at least per culture)
definition that can be used on a national level? IMHO,
getting the initial definition 'baseline' correct would be highly
beneficial to creating a defensible foundation for the effective
identification and assessment of key elements or concepts - this
then allows for robust regulation that does not easily fall prey to
'loop holes' or creative circumvention of intent ... it also
greatly eases the accurate communication by clearly defining sub
set elements which are often then be used in the larger cultural
paradigm. Think Scientific Methodology - First order,
standardize terms, concepts and mode of communication ... The_Chieftain: Well, is it a good place to start because it sounds all
scientificky, or because it actually makes sense? Here are a
couple of examples. Norinco 7.62x39 (Standard AK-47/SKS thing) uses
a soft steel core because it's cheaper than lead. It will not
penetrate Level IIIA body armor. It is banned. M855 Ball 5.56mm was
nearly banned about two years ago (i.e. the common milspec ball
ammo, I've lots of it myself as it's cheap) because it has a steel
exterior and lead core, and someone in ATF figured out that AR
pistols existed. This was fought out, ATF reversed themselves, so
it is not AP ammo per ATF. It actually will penetrate level IIIA
body armor. M855 will not penetrate steel plate that the old M193
will penetrate, but M193 is not composite to fall under the
prohibitions. M193 will not penetrate level IIIA, as the
compositions of the two rounds react differently to the different
targets. Similarly, some 10mm handgun ammo will go through level
IIIA, but since the copper type is not listed in the statute, it's
not armor piercing. You start to get the idea. If you want
to define something as 'armor piercing', set a standard type of
armor, reasonable for the calibre. Anything short of frangible
ammunition will go through a kevlar 'bullet proof vest' if fired
from a .30-06, for example.
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