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Ordnance vs AGF: Pershing Part 2

Дата: 02.06.2014 05:34:38
View PostS842, on Jun 02 2014 - 03:00, said: The 17 pounder APDS had substantially greater penetration (more than the American 90mm too) than the 76 mm guns HVAP, but started to have accuracy problems beyond 1,000 yards.    Also obviously, I look at the same data and feel that I would rather face the Germans with a 17 pounder.    So are they coming, and if so when?  (because if I turn a corner at Ruinberg, and a heavy is sitting there, I sure would like to have either of these guns to the current 76mm and inaccuracy problems at 1,000 yards won't matter.)

The_Chieftain:   I'd argue that it started having accuracy problems at under 500 yards if British testing gave it a 50% chance to hit a Panther's turret and recommended against its use at all over that range.   You don't explain, though, why it is that you would prefer the 17pr. What is 17pr likely to achieve on the battlefield that 76mm could not? Neither could reliably punch through the front of a Panther at combat ranges. Neither had much chance against a King tiger. Both were perfectly capable against Pz4, Tigers, etc.   There is a very, very narrow set of circumstances in which 17pr has a noticeable advantage over 76mm. And for that, you're increasing your signature, have a slower lay onto target, slower rate of fire, less accuracy, less ammo, (for a little while, almost no HE), and, in Firefly, you also drop a crewman and machine gun. If both tanks were available at the same time (which wasn't the case, which is the true merit of Firefly), it would be an eyebrow-raiser to take the 17pr, I think.   as for when it's in game, that's for the revs to figure out. The 3d models are made, it's a matter of their slot in the release timeline.

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