How much of a role did the Firefly play in the Allied invasion of Europe?

Treetop64, on May 07 2014 - 23:44, said: There weren't that many of them, only one Firefly per British tank troop, and not every formation had one.  If anything, in hindsight the Firefly was - at least in rough form - the tank the Sherman should have been from strictly an anti-armor firepower point of view.    There was talk in the U.S. ordnance department of incorporating the 17pdr into production Shermans  built in the States, but they would not accept the idea of fitting a British gun to an American tank built in America, even after it was discovered that the 76.2mm gun and ammunition, particularly the HE, was not as good as hoped.  


Kyphe, on May 08 2014 - 02:17, said:   50% hit ratio with apds is not quite broad side of a barn though much worse than regular ammo.   it did also blind the crew at night with a huge flash which is one potential source of the name firefly for the 17pdr, though same was true of the 76mm


Jeeps_Guns_Tanks, on May 09 2014 - 00:47, said:   All the stuff you made up about the M4A3 with M26 turret for one. YOU are the only one who made any claims about it not being stable, backed it with no sources, and then argued with the people who did.   


Quote we have both been in that thread lol no reason to go over it all again here suffice to say it was one test early ammo.


Quote I'm honestly not even sure if the 17pdr APDS issues were ever resolved either.