Graphical Updates of Tank models
Дата: 11.01.2011 15:35:29
ElAtaque1944, on 26 December 2010 - 08:49 PM, said: The Schmalturm of the PzIV needs to be smaller for example.Overlord: Any evidence of that perhaps? Schemes, screenshots etc.
karl_eller, on 02 January 2011 - 11:17 AM, said: I'm 90% sure the Schmalturm turret is bigger on the Pz4 than it is
on the Panther.While we're on this topic, the Tiger II needs a model for the 10.5cm L/68, and the JPanther needs a model for the 10.5cm L/56.
Overlord: History expert comments:
Tiger I tracks have already been discussed several times. Their width is correct. It's a matter of perception. Narrow transport tracks (Transportketten) were used for transportation. In order to mount them outer row of rollers was removed as well as wide battle tracks (Breitketten), they were replaced for narrower version. When the transportation was over, everything was done in reverse order. This was the requirement of German "Ordnung" for Kursk, North Africa, and black earth of Ukraine.
In late 1944 and 1945 this procedure wasn't followed carefully as before, since it required much time and effort. That's why aces of Panzerwaffe began to mount wide battle tracks without outer row of rollers (sometimes they even used Transportketten in city battles). As a result, late WWII photos feature Tiger with removed outer row of rollers, that's why battle tracks seem to be wider. In game we have an "honest" model with outer row of rollers mounted, and since it goes along the edge of the tracks, visually they seem to be narrower than they actually are. Especially if one expects almost 30-cm gap between MIDDLE row of rollers and outer edge of the tracks (see 1944-1945 photos). If you look at the tank from the FRONT and compare it to the respective scheme - you will make sure that the tracks are of normal width.
Unfortunately this issue arises over and over again.
Tiger I tracks have already been discussed several times. Their width is correct. It's a matter of perception. Narrow transport tracks (Transportketten) were used for transportation. In order to mount them outer row of rollers was removed as well as wide battle tracks (Breitketten), they were replaced for narrower version. When the transportation was over, everything was done in reverse order. This was the requirement of German "Ordnung" for Kursk, North Africa, and black earth of Ukraine.
In late 1944 and 1945 this procedure wasn't followed carefully as before, since it required much time and effort. That's why aces of Panzerwaffe began to mount wide battle tracks without outer row of rollers (sometimes they even used Transportketten in city battles). As a result, late WWII photos feature Tiger with removed outer row of rollers, that's why battle tracks seem to be wider. In game we have an "honest" model with outer row of rollers mounted, and since it goes along the edge of the tracks, visually they seem to be narrower than they actually are. Especially if one expects almost 30-cm gap between MIDDLE row of rollers and outer edge of the tracks (see 1944-1945 photos). If you look at the tank from the FRONT and compare it to the respective scheme - you will make sure that the tracks are of normal width.
Unfortunately this issue arises over and over again.
NOA, on 11 January 2011 - 03:11 AM, said: Also important is for a look at the tracks on the Tiger I...
currently, they're using the narrow Transportketten, which were
NEVER used in battle. Battle tracks for the Tiger I, the
Breitketten, were used for battle and swapped off for
Transportketten when the tanks were being moved by rail or just
drove between fronts.Overlord: Our guys will check them.
ElAtaque1944, on 26 December 2010 - 08:49 PM, said: And of course, tracks of the American Heavies after the M6 -
they´re much too small atm, because the grousers are missing. Here
an original picture:http://www.wwiivehic...32/t29e3-01.jpg
Maybe you can tell us, what models are going to be fixed? T(h)anks in advance!
Overlord:
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