So the AP AMX 30...

Draschel: Again, I'm not trolling a single person here. Its a debate. You obviously aren't bad, and I've never said anyone here is. No illusion to it. But seems a pretty simple averaging out. Think of the many greens, that will likely scrounge 1500? And great guys, 2500. Average is what? What I am saying though, is drop the toxic attitude of damage farmer = contemptuous sneer. And I am not talking about a T67 on SA, shooting bots. I am talking about the stereotype of damage farm, a Strv, E25 or charioteer, Leopard 1 or object 416 sitting in the back 500m away, farming damage and then their team loses - and people EXPLODE that the loss was his/her fault. Most of the time, certainly the loss was NOT his fault, and if they do so consistently their win rate will mimic their damage. If damage farm was easy, everyone would do it. Does everyone do it?  And again, if we are going to contemplate on what a more or less capable tanker will do in a MODERN SETUP tier 8 med, not from freaking 2012, but now. Look at Daki, iyouxin, orzanel, or Skill4ltu will do now, or justhacks / OP Hacker if you are into NA, what they'll put together in MODERNIZED tanks released not 1 billion years ago like suka pershing, Panther II, T44, Pershing.  But the new, like Udes, CS53, Progetto CS55. Lets make a deal, the next tier 8 tech tree med thats released, I bet you most capable streamers do 2k+.  Sitting on a base and capping IS EASY THOUGH. EVERYONE CAN DO IT. You need only 1 tutorial there, then you remember it forever.