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Chances of Armata VS Apache/Thunderbolt/Frogfoot

Дата: 10.10.2021 10:31:25
Draschel: I know this may sound really dumb, anti-armor and battlefield support aircraft against a tank (not an SPAAG)  but I really think armata (or T15)  can be especially dangerous to them. T14 and T15, are the most advanced tanks in the world, equipped with 2 powerful identifying radars for battlefield management. The tank itself is able to illuminate, perceive, act upon incoming projectile threats, from most approaches, at up to 1,800m/s. With ongoing testing to further limits, the goal being up to 3,000m/s. The main purposes of course, are ground projected radar for beyond LOS battlefield information, and of course active defense system being able to intercept incoming threat. But what many experts forget and leave out, the array radars also work as any other ground based radar, and can obviously detect traditional radar signature and masses, like attack helicopters and close support fixed wing planes.  The T14 is armed with 2 different gun-tube ATGMs, with max range up to 8,000m. The 1st travels at 660mph, while 2nd more modern ATGM purpose built for its new 2M82 125mm gun flies at 895mph. The T15, can be equipped with rack of AT9-2  ATGM, that have 6,000m range and fly at whopping 1,230mph. Even the slowest velocity of these ATGM, is far superior to the typical ground support aircraft airspeed, especially helicopters. Frogfoot, being the fastest, can't really sustain faster than 610mph and fixed wing attack planes aren't circling the battlefield at max speed. And if thunderbolt or frogfoot use their ceiling to evade, well they can't really do counter-insurgency roles anymore. T15 armata can also swivel and bring into action 2x30mm autocannon, which are essentially AA guns.  Helicopters have an advantage of confusing radar and LOS, by using terrain irregularity permitted by vertical flight. Sure, but that is typically something versus long range surface air defenses or long-range interceptor air-launch missiles. Like stand off MIG31 engaging targets 100km away. Against the closer ranges versus SPAAG, it isn't an advantage anymore. And specifically, ground based targets can move into terrain irregularity far easier too. T14 and T15 also heavily invest into active defense and passive defense, which are highly tuned into countering ATGM HEAT attack.  I know it sounds silly, but it seems these next gen tanks perform a very decent SPAAG role, in themselves. And attack aircraft would do very well to avoid them. Obviously, ATGM aren't genuine ASM weapons, and will definitely have very little use if any at all versus interdictor and tactical strike aircraft. And if this class like frogfoot, thunderbolt, AC130, Yak 130 close support aircraft are forced into ceilings of 5-6,000m they become extremely inefficient in their roles of battle overwatch. If that the case, better off using purpose built fighter bomber and strike fighters, AKA bomb/missile trucks, which much more versatile and useful at altitude, like Tornado ECR, Xian JH7, F15E, F18E, SU34.  Thoughts?  

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