How would you make the game and the community better?
Дата: 29.01.2019 15:36:58
Jigabachi, on 28 January 2019 - 06:23 PM, said: I really like what you did so far, except for some ignorant posts
about the state of things... but what you said there sounds like a
broken record. That kind of stuff gets promised to us twice a year.
So far, nothing happened, nothing improved, it just got worse. But
hey, maybe mods will start to add a second line to their short
closing comments again for two weeks, like the last time everything
was supposed to get better.eekeeboo: Ignorant intones I don't know what's happening when I
do. There is a misperception that because I don't agree with
someone I don't understand them or see the problem. You don't have
to agree with someone to understand their view. For
improvement, I would argue counter to this on things that have
vastly improved and the rate at which certain threads have closed
has changed and certain toxic people are no longer here.
For adding closing lines etc, that's not a moderators job,
it's nice of them to do it sometimes, but I would ask you to try to
read every forum post in every thread, review all of those and the
reported posts and then have to look at other platforms and
languages and you will understand the sheer amount of work to be
done and how precious time is. 13:37 Added after 0 minutes
cro001, on 28 January 2019 - 07:15 PM, said: IMO EU office has terrible interaction with community, if my
opinion even matters to you.eekeeboo: It does matter, I think you're wrong, but that's your
opinion vs my own.
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kubawt112, on 28 January 2019 - 09:41 PM, said: Setting up the forum structure properly would be a good start. WG
themselves have been guilty of putting what they deem fitting into
the 'Gameplay' section, even 'sticking' it. Proper moderation would
ensure that everything wouldn't be put into one big pile. That
extends into the userbase: It's a well-known fact that you can be a
proper idiot on the forums without any real issues. Some are
intentional, others seem to just be in the habit of using the same
old "debate techniques" to confuse and derail threads at will.
Neither are good things, and I would not be surprised if certain
'forumites' have an easier time getting away with their behaviour
than others. Regardless, I've got better things to do than properly
adress these people, and it's not always something you'd want - it
tends to derail the thread or lead to pointless discussion about
debeating in itself. I much prefer to ignore them. That's not
exactly ideal for creating a good climate for debate, but the only
viable solution unless you want to spend half your evening
answering posts on a game forum. As for differing opinions,
experience suggests some might be reading too much into individual
opinions than others, or rather feeling an express need to contest
them without bringing anything else to the table, simply due to the
topic/content/player itself. I'm not sure why, though those who've
read their share of Internet discussions might have their
suspicions. I believe that something posted from a player's
viewpoint remains an opinion when someone expresses their personal
experience, and that circumstantial/unofficial evidence isn't given
value beyond its actual weight. There's after all a definite lack
of proper evidence when discussing this game, but I hardly expect
anyone to prove (beyond 'reasonable doubtGenerally, I'm not convinced the forum would be a terribly bad place if some of the more obvious stuff was sorted out, namely moderation that was based a bit more around 'common sense' in addition to the clear-cut forum rules. Not sure about how exactly you'd solve it, but you'd need the trusted ones to have the interest and ability to understand the forums - perhaps a bit beyond what some staff members are capable of now. Perhaps kind of like our dear Peekaboo - clearly going 'beyond the call of duty' compared to other staff members (which is probably down to changes in policy, management, let's be fair). They have, though Peekaboo here evidently seems to try harder than the sum of all his predecessors. Like Jigabachi points out there's little 'hard' evidence to be seen so far, but he definitely seems brighter than just about every other staff member I've communicated with over the years. Maybe I'm easily impressed, but it's the first time I've seen a staff member manage a solid response to the more 'confrontational' posts. Can't expect him to read all our posts and then brand the responsible WG staff like livestock, but his current behaviour makes me far more likely to believe that someone is actually wanting to hear our opinion (for God knows what reason, though). Nohe isn't the head moderator, I believe, but might have been at the time you sent that PM. Earlier this year both Nohe and Jbnn were referenced as head of moderation - in the FAQ and forum rules respectively. I think they corrected it after someone pointed it out. Don't expect a non-mod staff member to chime in unless called upon. Currently, the following are mentioned in both the FAQ and rules: http://forum.worldof...ser/dn-Kenibi-/ http://forum.worldof...unnyCommander-/ I do know about some who've had sanctions overturned, but I wouldn't take it for granted. It is well known that certain moderators have been known to act a bit more irrational than others, and that certain staff members (e.g. not just the mods) prefer to uphold a single warning point backed up by meager circumstantial evidence, despite being confronted by extensive, sound reasoning and proper evidence provided - in a borderline childish act of defiance. In other words, don't spend time making sense.
eekeeboo: I want to highlight that CM's are their own people
and each has an approach to how they do things. Yes management do
prompt you to be in areas etc, but going above and beyond etc is
down to the person not being forced into it. Not to highlight that
management and direction isn't there but that I'm never asked to go
above and beyond. This is down to your personal professional and
ethical/moral obligation you put on yourself. 13:43 Added
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Rato_Black_Baron, on 28 January 2019 - 11:16 PM, said: Great forum and great game! The passion for the game that I
saw in this forum, was what made me install it in
Feb2013.It's a great bussiness tool. For a better forum:
2 Ectars, 2 iScendings and 4 eekeeboos (great job Sir Boo!), and of course... a Premium VIII for the forumite/thread of the week.
Drop the 3-5-7 MM patern, and implement +1/-1MM with better chances for top tier, for the prefMM tanks. Or better, return to weight MM, with the tank's weight based on the vehicles recent performance (make it an ingame vehicle dynamic stat). Stop the powercreep and the carroussel of buffs. Change the whole strategy. Kill a Dinger and post it = 100 bonds.
eekeeboo: Are you saying you need 4 of me to make up 2 of the others?
:o 
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