Know Your Steel: KV-1
Дата: 07.11.2013 12:44:50
Steffenximus, on 06 November 2013 - 10:13 PM, said: And please note that I said 8.8cm FlaK gun, not 8.8cm KwK, meaning
the anti-aircraft guns which turned out to be extremely effective
against tanks. You didn't say anything about the 5cm L60, did you ?
That gun was effective against KV-1, but it had problems against
T-34, so as I said, KV-1 was inferior to T-34. And I know better
than you when each gun was introduced into the war.TheKroo:
I no way have I disputed the effectiveness of the 8.8cm FlaK gun versus certain tank vehicles.
I was referring to the fact that no vehicle mounted German guns of the initial war period were able to reliably penetrate the KV-1 series.
88mm was vehicle born only after the appearance of 88mm KwK gun.
I would not say that the 5 cm KwK 39 L/60 was able to reliably penetrate a KV.
5 cm Pak 38 (L/60) is another story. But even it had some issues with KV-1. While it was rather OK versus T-34.
I no way have I disputed the effectiveness of the 8.8cm FlaK gun versus certain tank vehicles.
I was referring to the fact that no vehicle mounted German guns of the initial war period were able to reliably penetrate the KV-1 series.
88mm was vehicle born only after the appearance of 88mm KwK gun.
I would not say that the 5 cm KwK 39 L/60 was able to reliably penetrate a KV.
5 cm Pak 38 (L/60) is another story. But even it had some issues with KV-1. While it was rather OK versus T-34.
Steffenximus, on 06 November 2013 - 10:16 PM, said: If you took your time, let me clue you onto things. The fact is
most people are of less than average intelligence and since I'm
smart I'm mostly misunderstood - take a look at all my posts,
you'll notice that everything I say is 100% accurate and even
though it might hurt you it is the truth and if you can't handle
the truth then go ahead neg rep I don't care.TheKroo:
We are all gentlemen, let us keep the discussion at level :)
We are all gentlemen, let us keep the discussion at level :)
Mantelman, on 06 November 2013 - 10:23 PM, said: I wrote my B.A.-Paper about the literature about the tiger-tank,
some things I remember...TheKroo:
If the paper is in English and you are willing to show it I would very much like to see it.
If the paper is in English and you are willing to show it I would very much like to see it.
Fuks36, on 06 November 2013 - 11:29 PM, said: I didnt have the time to read the whole post!I just reaf the neg poast,KV 1s ren with T34s and thouse thants were the battlefront line!
Everything reagarthing WoT is not important and those thanks,because THIS is a GAME!
AND WE DONT LIVE IN THE PAST!
TheKroo:
Past should not limit us. But we should learn from history.
Especially interesting informations like those about tank.
The historical background of things is very important for us to make our tanks as accurate as possible and to transfer you the maximum experience.
Past should not limit us. But we should learn from history.
Especially interesting informations like those about tank.
The historical background of things is very important for us to make our tanks as accurate as possible and to transfer you the maximum experience.
hamstor, on 07 November 2013 - 11:08 AM, said: So... Kolobanov was one of those "gold ammo noobs"? 
TheKroo:
haxor!
:P
haxor!
:P
Know Your Steel: KV-1