Sandbox Crew 2.0 - Second Iteration
Дата: 23.07.2021 17:37:29
infyrana, on 23 July 2021 - 12:37 AM, said: It's great to see you taking the time out to actively answer
questions, thank you. 1 - Will the conversion happen to
individual crew members, or whole crews? I have lots of spare
radio operators with 2-4 skills waiting to be re-used for those
times when I re-buy a tank needing that crew member, but the rest
of the crew members have moved on and trained for other
tanks. It would indeed be great to be able to actively select
crews to convert into crew books in advance of the timer. ...*edit*
- A crew of 2 or a crew of 6 takes the same Experience in crew
books to reach the same skill level, so how would the individual
crew members be seen when converted to crew books, a percentage of
the tank they were trained for based on number of crew members
originally or? 2 - I was unable to find a way to mobilise an
old crew (sitting in Churchill III and trained for T-10) and train
it for the Obj 277 - which I have unlocked with Experience but have
not purchased and is therefore not in the garage. I was left
having to train the old crew for the Churchill III (so I could use
them) and then in the new crew window I could add the Obj 277 - but
as a secondary for a gold cost or credits with an experience
hit. Can this be added please to crew mobilisation, to select
a tank that is not currently in your garage but have
unlocked? I have lots of crews for tanks that I've unlocked
but don't own yet (credit issues lol), this would be a major
headache and an expensive one. 3 - So for those tanks
where we have multiple crews, or where there are multiple tech tree
tanks of the same type (Russian mediums for example) with crews for
each - would these spare crews (when converted into crew experience
books) give enough experience to offset the loss of experience when
adding a second and third tank specialisation using only credits?
(and not 750g) Eg: Mobilize my Obj 140 crew (5 skills), add
for credits the secondary tanks like the Obj430U and K-91 to the
crew skills, then convert those unused 4x skilled crews to crew
books to retrain the Obj 140 back up. 4 - Lastly, can
you make it so that we can use the special crew (instructors)
portraits as our main tank crew avatars please? I've gone
from having the awesome (albeit needs her Japanese voice on my obj
430U) Mochizuki portrait to some random crew portrait, this goes
for Chuck and all my Christmas crews too.
Kevirus, on 23 July 2021 - 12:39 AM, said:
Thank you for finally addressing this issue, since it seems like one of the most requested feature.
However why only end of the year? why not let us manually do it?
Let's say i convert a crew to the new system at Level 70 and i want to reach 80.
I know with all my extra crew members i will get maybe hundreds of crewbooks end of the year so instead of spending a lot of time playing hundreds of matches with that crew,
i rather just wait a few months till i get my crew books, cause even if i reach 80 during that period, i won't be able to use them anymore....
So does WG want us to not play and wait till end of the year?
MorpheusTRX, on 23 July 2021 - 06:47 AM, said: With the Crew 2.0, I can use my IS4 crew with other russian heavy tanks like 277 and IS7, and the crews I used to use on my IS7 and 277 are become completely useless. Now what am I supposed to do with these crews? It would be nice if their experience could be turned into a crew training book but WG doesn't give us such an opportunity. That's why I think the new crew system is useless. WG should give us an opportunity to convert unused crews into crewbooks. If WG doesn't do this, the efforts I have given to these crews since 2011 will be completely useless and they just become placeholders in the barracks.
HeroOfTheLostCause, on 23 July 2021 - 08:06 AM, said: Greetings from Hungary. I appreciate that you enter this hot debate. I would be grateful if you convey a simple suggestion to reduce the problems with Crew 2.0. Currently, a line of five skills is linked to a specific pairs of talents. It is too rigid and force sub-optimal choices. It could simply be improved by allowing to choose between two pairs of talents (by keeping the five lines of skills and the five pairs of talents).
none666, on 23 July 2021 - 10:16 AM, said: they will do it automatically in the end of the year if you have unused crew members And I dont understand why something important like this is not clearly mentioned in article, you would get rid of a lot of confusion.
terminator_hr, on 23 July 2021 - 10:46 AM, said: What happens if I have a Santa Clause or Chuck or Snow maiden as a commander?
They become an instructor and the tank is short of a crew member so the crew can not be converted to that tank?
Unless I use a fresh recruit or someone from another tank?
Which in turn then misses it's own crew member...
Which in the end will result that the crews I have become weaker and I end up with a tank with no crew which in turn means I have to retrain some crew for a second tank and take a hit in experience.
Or you have a crew full of future instructors. Then has no crew and again have to retrain another crew and take the xp hit...
If that is true, why on earth would I use the crews I got from battle pass at all?
Either I am missing the point or I am going to be royally pi...d off (even more than I already am) when this goes live.
Because explanations are sooooo well thought out, just as the ideas themselves
ApocalipticSnowflake: Added numbers to questions in spoiler so i can answer them
at once without making 4 separate quotes:1 - I didn't know the
answer to that. But i now got the answer that we are aware of it.
We see your concerns regarding crew conversion and we are working
on creating solution that will address those concerns. So for
now i don't actually know but when solution is ready we will give
you all heads-up. 2- It's possible - You need to go
to Barracks -> Click "Mobilize" -> Click "Select
Vehicle" -> Uncheck filter for "vehicles in
garage" After that you can convert crew on tanks you
don't have. For visualization open spoiler (It will will be
quite a few screenshots sorry):
And as you can see now tanks you don't have in garage are
displayed here as well:
3 - It will be possible to use it like that. But as per question 1 there is better solution being worked on. 4- Good point. After spending so much time on sandbox with crew i also noticed it. I will forward it.
3 - It will be possible to use it like that. But as per question 1 there is better solution being worked on. 4- Good point. After spending so much time on sandbox with crew i also noticed it. I will forward it.
Kevirus, on 23 July 2021 - 12:39 AM, said:
Thank you for finally addressing this issue, since it seems like one of the most requested feature.
However why only end of the year? why not let us manually do it?
Let's say i convert a crew to the new system at Level 70 and i want to reach 80.
I know with all my extra crew members i will get maybe hundreds of crewbooks end of the year so instead of spending a lot of time playing hundreds of matches with that crew,
i rather just wait a few months till i get my crew books, cause even if i reach 80 during that period, i won't be able to use them anymore....
So does WG want us to not play and wait till end of the year?
ApocalipticSnowflake: End of the year is just "placeholder" as we don't know if and when
Crew 2.0 will be going for live server. As answered above we
are working on better solution to crew conversion.
MorpheusTRX, on 23 July 2021 - 06:47 AM, said: With the Crew 2.0, I can use my IS4 crew with other russian heavy tanks like 277 and IS7, and the crews I used to use on my IS7 and 277 are become completely useless. Now what am I supposed to do with these crews? It would be nice if their experience could be turned into a crew training book but WG doesn't give us such an opportunity. That's why I think the new crew system is useless. WG should give us an opportunity to convert unused crews into crewbooks. If WG doesn't do this, the efforts I have given to these crews since 2011 will be completely useless and they just become placeholders in the barracks.
ApocalipticSnowflake: Refer to answers above.
HeroOfTheLostCause, on 23 July 2021 - 08:06 AM, said: Greetings from Hungary. I appreciate that you enter this hot debate. I would be grateful if you convey a simple suggestion to reduce the problems with Crew 2.0. Currently, a line of five skills is linked to a specific pairs of talents. It is too rigid and force sub-optimal choices. It could simply be improved by allowing to choose between two pairs of talents (by keeping the five lines of skills and the five pairs of talents).
ApocalipticSnowflake: Will do. As to topic being hot i appreciate many great ideas you
all had since beginning of the topic.
none666, on 23 July 2021 - 10:16 AM, said: they will do it automatically in the end of the year if you have unused crew members And I dont understand why something important like this is not clearly mentioned in article, you would get rid of a lot of confusion.
ApocalipticSnowflake: End of The year is just a placeholder. As previously answered we
are looking for better solution.
terminator_hr, on 23 July 2021 - 10:46 AM, said: What happens if I have a Santa Clause or Chuck or Snow maiden as a commander?
They become an instructor and the tank is short of a crew member so the crew can not be converted to that tank?
Unless I use a fresh recruit or someone from another tank?
Which in turn then misses it's own crew member...
Which in the end will result that the crews I have become weaker and I end up with a tank with no crew which in turn means I have to retrain some crew for a second tank and take a hit in experience.
Or you have a crew full of future instructors. Then has no crew and again have to retrain another crew and take the xp hit...
If that is true, why on earth would I use the crews I got from battle pass at all?
Either I am missing the point or I am going to be royally pi...d off (even more than I already am) when this goes live.
Because explanations are sooooo well thought out, just as the ideas themselves
ApocalipticSnowflake: You will get BOTH experience of that crew member as well
as instructor from that crew member. They are not converted solely
into instructors.
Sandbox Crew 2.0 - Second Iteration