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Subject: 9.4 Test Client Feedback! Bring it!
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Cowardly_Lion, on Oct 18 2014 - 15:47, said: I discovered one thing that I found rather funny. When you
first start the beta test, you are given 20,000 gold, 100,000,000
credits or silver, and 100,000,000 free experience. What is
funny about that is that I reserched every item for every vehicle
for every country, and still have 74,460,670 free experience
left. What do I do with the rest?.... I find that
rather amusing since I will now have an elite tank every time I buy
a new one until the next update of the test server and start over
again. If I wanted to be silly and do it, I could also have
bought almost 700 slots in my garage and put most, if not all, of
the first 4 or 5 tier tanks in it. My point on this is that
for a proper test, shouldn't we have to work a bit to get that tier
10 tank? I have enough left to get at least 10 of them after
outfitting all my current tanks and a couple I bought just to see
how good they are. This isn't a bug as such, just something
that I find a bit silly for a test of a new version of a game.
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Cowardly_Lion, on Oct 18 2014 - 15:47, said: I discovered one thing that I found rather funny. When you
first start the beta test, you are given 20,000 gold, 100,000,000
credits or silver, and 100,000,000 free experience. What is
funny about that is that I reserched every item for every vehicle
for every country, and still have 74,460,670 free experience
left. What do I do with the rest?.... I find that
rather amusing since I will now have an elite tank every time I buy
a new one until the next update of the test server and start over
again. If I wanted to be silly and do it, I could also have
bought almost 700 slots in my garage and put most, if not all, of
the first 4 or 5 tier tanks in it. My point on this is that
for a proper test, shouldn't we have to work a bit to get that tier
10 tank? I have enough left to get at least 10 of them after
outfitting all my current tanks and a couple I bought just to see
how good they are. This isn't a bug as such, just something
that I find a bit silly for a test of a new version of a game.KMaus: I believe the concept, is that since it's a test server, and
we want you to test as much as possible, and find as many bugs or
things that may need broken (before releasing the final client),
that we want you to have completely unlimited resources - just like
game testers have. You shouldn't ever be blocked in a test server,
from accessing any equipment, tanks, etc. Unlimited resource -->
unlimited things you can test --> fun AND helpful
That's just my theory, as I've been a game tester in the past, and that's why we had a similar experience.
Cheers
That's just my theory, as I've been a game tester in the past, and that's why we had a similar experience.
Cheers
Subject: Discussão Semanal: Ações conjuntas com entidades externas
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Cadesh, on Oct 23 2014 - 19:15, said: Colocaram o Brad Pitt para atrair público, assim como
fizeram com o Tom Cruise no Valkiria, que não é um filme ruim.
Estou com boas expectativas sobre o filme, vou levar a criançada
para assistir.
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Cadesh, on Oct 23 2014 - 19:15, said: Colocaram o Brad Pitt para atrair público, assim como
fizeram com o Tom Cruise no Valkiria, que não é um filme ruim.
Estou com boas expectativas sobre o filme, vou levar a criançada
para assistir. Capitao_Desastre_: Hmm, melhor não... Tem hora em que eles mostram o que uma
munição calibre 50 faz à cabeça de uma pessoa...
Subject: Made in China Premiere
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Content_WG: Filmmaker Viachaslau Makshun brings us another stellar documentary
featuring everyone's favorite military hardware--the tank!
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Subject: Operación Lightfoot: Parte II
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Content_WG: ¡Disfruta de x3 XP en vehículos británicos y alemanes durante el
evento del fin de semana!
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Subject: Operação Lightfoot: Parte II
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Content_WG: Desfrute de um impulso de XP x3, enquanto os tanques britânicos e
alemães se defrontam durante nosso final de semana da Operação
Lightfoot!
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Subject: Operation Lightfoot: Part II
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Content_WG: Enjoy a x3 XP boost as British and German tanks go at it during our
Operation Lightfoot weekend!
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Subject: Springtime for T110 and the Americas
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Slakrrrrrr, on Oct 23 2014 - 04:33, said: Alright, this question is going to take a lot of background, but
I'm curious to see your opinions. On a recent physics
quiz, I had a question involving finding average velocity.
Essentially, a person walks from point A to B at 5m/s, then walks
from B to A immediately after at 3m/s. The method at which I found
this average was this: give A to B a value (I gave it 10m, it could
honestly be anything and the resulting average velocity would be
the same), and use it to find a total time taken for the person to
walk from A to B (2s) and back to A (3.33s) for a total elapsed
time of 5.33s. I then divided the AB time by the total time, and
multiplied by the velocity ([2s/5.33s]x5m/s), and the same for the
BA time and velocity ([3.33s/5.33s]x3m/s), both resulting in 1.875.
The sum of these two values gave me the average velocity, 3.75m/s.
All of the steps listed above were clearly instructed on the quiz.
My question is this: should this method be considered
unconventional? To me, it seems pretty logical and unambiguous,
especially when the content is essentially review of high school
physics. Here's a picture
of the question on the quiz (apologies for the bad quality, the
pic was taken from my phone).
Link on message: #7989065
Slakrrrrrr, on Oct 23 2014 - 04:33, said: Alright, this question is going to take a lot of background, but
I'm curious to see your opinions. On a recent physics
quiz, I had a question involving finding average velocity.
Essentially, a person walks from point A to B at 5m/s, then walks
from B to A immediately after at 3m/s. The method at which I found
this average was this: give A to B a value (I gave it 10m, it could
honestly be anything and the resulting average velocity would be
the same), and use it to find a total time taken for the person to
walk from A to B (2s) and back to A (3.33s) for a total elapsed
time of 5.33s. I then divided the AB time by the total time, and
multiplied by the velocity ([2s/5.33s]x5m/s), and the same for the
BA time and velocity ([3.33s/5.33s]x3m/s), both resulting in 1.875.
The sum of these two values gave me the average velocity, 3.75m/s.
All of the steps listed above were clearly instructed on the quiz.
My question is this: should this method be considered
unconventional? To me, it seems pretty logical and unambiguous,
especially when the content is essentially review of high school
physics. Here's a picture
of the question on the quiz (apologies for the bad quality, the
pic was taken from my phone).The_Chieftain: Isn't the answer '0'? Velocity is a function of speed
and direction. If you're at the place when the stopwatch ends as
you were when it started, your overall average velocity must have
been 0.
Subject: Burn All Empires looks to pull off Rumble in the West upset
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Content_WG: Can a team from North America really take down two of EU’s top
squads?
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Subject: LOL wargaming eu
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DelhRoh, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:25, said: No soy moderador. Soy el Community Manager de World
of Tanks, World of Warplanes, Blitz, World of Tanks Xbox 360 y
World of Warships. Un saludo.
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DelhRoh, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:25, said: No soy moderador. Soy el Community Manager de World
of Tanks, World of Warplanes, Blitz, World of Tanks Xbox 360 y
World of Warships. Un saludo.ElPozoleOlmeca: Somos parte del departamento de Comunidad. La única
diferencia es que mi compañero DelRoh trabaja desde Europa y yo
desde Norte América. Pero nuestra meta es la misma, hacer crecer
nuestras comunidades.
Subject: LOL wargaming eu
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DelhRoh, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:25, said: No soy moderador. Soy el Community Manager de World
of Tanks, World of Warplanes, Blitz, World of Tanks Xbox 360 y
World of Warships. Un saludo.
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DelhRoh, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:25, said: No soy moderador. Soy el Community Manager de World
of Tanks, World of Warplanes, Blitz, World of Tanks Xbox 360 y
World of Warships. Un saludo.PollotheDestroyer: Somos parte del departamento de Comunidad. La única
diferencia es que mi compañero DelRoh trabaja desde Europa y yo
desde Norte América. Pero nuestra meta es la misma, hacer crecer
nuestras comunidades.
Subject: LOL wargaming eu
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DelhRoh, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:25, said: No soy moderador. Soy el Community Manager de World
of Tanks, World of Warplanes, Blitz, World of Tanks Xbox 360 y
World of Warships. Un saludo.
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DelhRoh, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:25, said: No soy moderador. Soy el Community Manager de World
of Tanks, World of Warplanes, Blitz, World of Tanks Xbox 360 y
World of Warships. Un saludo.ApolloArtemis: Somos parte del departamento de Comunidad. La única
diferencia es que mi compañero DelRoh trabaja desde Europa y yo
desde Norte América. Pero nuestra meta es la misma, hacer crecer
nuestras comunidades.
Subject: Halloween Celebrations
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_xXx_Gabe_xXx_, on Oct 23 2014 - 09:52, said: Since 2012 Clan Wars > 2014 Clan Wars I would like to
invite everyone to change their clan icon to one that
celebrates Halloween. Lets try to bring back some culture back
to the game.
#OldEuropeMap Clans with
Halloween Icons.
OTTER
PBKAC
BADGR
BULLS
FOXEY
PLSGO Please change your icon to
something decent and not something a MSPaint 44% Pubbie would draw.
If you don't, your clan is a uncultured bunch of bads. Edit:
Will add the name and pictures of the clans that have Halloween
icons.
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_xXx_Gabe_xXx_, on Oct 23 2014 - 09:52, said: Since 2012 Clan Wars > 2014 Clan Wars I would like to
invite everyone to change their clan icon to one that
celebrates Halloween. Lets try to bring back some culture back
to the game.
#OldEuropeMap Clans with
Halloween Icons.
OTTER
PBKAC
BADGR
BULLS
FOXEY
PLSGO Please change your icon to
something decent and not something a MSPaint 44% Pubbie would draw.
If you don't, your clan is a uncultured bunch of bads. Edit:
Will add the name and pictures of the clans that have Halloween
icons. pizzastorm: #OldEuropeMap Clans with Halloween Icons.
OTTER
PBKAC
BADGR
BULLS
FOXEY
PLSGO Please change your icon to
something decent and not something a MSPaint 44% Pubbie would draw.
If you don't, your clan is a uncultured bunch of bads. Edit:
Will add the name and pictures of the clans that have Halloween
icons. I would love to see this!
OTTER
PBKAC
BADGR
BULLS
FOXEY
PLSGO Please change your icon to
something decent and not something a MSPaint 44% Pubbie would draw.
If you don't, your clan is a uncultured bunch of bads. Edit:
Will add the name and pictures of the clans that have Halloween
icons. I would love to see this!
Subject: Lost High-Explosive Damage?
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Mr_Ekshin, on Oct 23 2014 - 10:11, said: SOLVED! Thank you all for your assistance. You were correct:
it was combined damage that all hits very close together in time. I
had to slow the replay down to 1/4 to see, but right after my shot,
two more hits occurred. When the replay is at normal speed,
only a single orange number is displayed. But slowed to 1/4 speed,
3 hits are displayed, each with their respective colors. It
appears that the data is all there, but the live engine just merges
it together as you said. It actually makes sense, because to show 3
hits at full speed would blink by so fast it would be unseen.
This is decidedly "working as intended". Thank you all again for
your help. Case closed. 
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Mr_Ekshin, on Oct 23 2014 - 10:11, said: SOLVED! Thank you all for your assistance. You were correct:
it was combined damage that all hits very close together in time. I
had to slow the replay down to 1/4 to see, but right after my shot,
two more hits occurred. When the replay is at normal speed,
only a single orange number is displayed. But slowed to 1/4 speed,
3 hits are displayed, each with their respective colors. It
appears that the data is all there, but the live engine just merges
it together as you said. It actually makes sense, because to show 3
hits at full speed would blink by so fast it would be unseen.
This is decidedly "working as intended". Thank you all again for
your help. Case closed. pizzastorm: Another case solved! Good work
investigators. 

Subject: The Spoon Theory
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KMaus: For everyone who's shared their struggle in this thread, thank
you!!
This is for you:

I'm glad you're here ^_^
This is for you:

I'm glad you're here ^_^
Subject: The Spoon Theory
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KMaus: For everyone who's shared their struggle in this thread, thank
you!!
This is for you:

I'm glad you're here ^_^
This is for you:

I'm glad you're here ^_^
Subject: FURY Video Contest
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HBFT: Thank you for all of those who participated in this contest!
We are closing this thread for judging. :)
Subject: One of the devs shows his office
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Hypnotik: Pizza's desk is clean. This opinion is relative to my own.
Subject: Videos da Comunidade
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alegetbrz, on Oct 23 2014 - 17:33, said: Video do primeiro Torneio 1x1 CABRA. Video sem cortes, gravado da
mesma forma que foi transmitido ao vivo.
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alegetbrz, on Oct 23 2014 - 17:33, said: Video do primeiro Torneio 1x1 CABRA. Video sem cortes, gravado da
mesma forma que foi transmitido ao vivo.Capitao_Desastre_: alegetbrz, próxima vez que façam torneio com transmissão,
anuncie aqui: http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/358296-streams-decom-brs/,
para poder ter mais gente vendo. 
Subject: Discussão Semanal: Ações conjuntas com entidades externas
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Cadesh, on Oct 23 2014 - 17:19, said: Caça ao Bismark apoiado! Só tomem cuidado para não se meter
em algo muito fora da realidade. Aquele filme Pearl Harbour é
tecnicamente bom, mas como filme achei uma droga, os atores
pilotando P-40 com camisa de surfista foi terrível e fora da
realidade. Na verdade, meu filme de guerra preferido é o Der
Untergang (A Queda), seguido pelo seriado Band of Brothers. É o que
há de melhor. Espero que o Fury acerte na dose, sem apelar para
muita ficção. Quando vejo a cara do Brad Pitt lembro do "Bastardos
e Inglórios" que é um filme divertido, mas não tem compromisso
nenhum com a Segunda Guerra.
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Cadesh, on Oct 23 2014 - 17:19, said: Caça ao Bismark apoiado! Só tomem cuidado para não se meter
em algo muito fora da realidade. Aquele filme Pearl Harbour é
tecnicamente bom, mas como filme achei uma droga, os atores
pilotando P-40 com camisa de surfista foi terrível e fora da
realidade. Na verdade, meu filme de guerra preferido é o Der
Untergang (A Queda), seguido pelo seriado Band of Brothers. É o que
há de melhor. Espero que o Fury acerte na dose, sem apelar para
muita ficção. Quando vejo a cara do Brad Pitt lembro do "Bastardos
e Inglórios" que é um filme divertido, mas não tem compromisso
nenhum com a Segunda Guerra.Capitao_Desastre_: Concordo em relação ao Pearl Harbor. Primeira vez que vi,
notei que os navios de fundo numa das sequências do ataque a Pearl
Harbor eram destroyers da classe Spruance, e isso me tirou
completamente do filme. Parei de ver nesse momento.
Vi Fury na terça (pré-estreia para a galera da WG :D) e está... Não diria 100% fiel à realidade, o que até é natural, dado que não é um documentário, mas achei muito mais fiél que o filme médio de guerra de Hollywood. No entanto, noto que essa é minha opinião apenas, e como tal YMMV.
Vi Fury na terça (pré-estreia para a galera da WG :D) e está... Não diria 100% fiel à realidade, o que até é natural, dado que não é um documentário, mas achei muito mais fiél que o filme médio de guerra de Hollywood. No entanto, noto que essa é minha opinião apenas, e como tal YMMV.
Subject: Wargaming Versus the World!
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Jewel_Thief: Thank you to everyone who came out to play on Tuesday night! :)
For those of you who faced us, the Gold should be in your
account already, thanks to the fine folks in the Support department
of our SF Bay Area office. Till next time!! o7
~JT
Subject: How not to fail as a team and individual player.
Link on message: #7988686
chzwhz, on Oct 22 2014 - 16:33, said: Are you new? Want to take a first step in becoming a better player?
Then check out this vid... it is a sort of play by play of a battle
where one team was fail and one was not. Simple but effective
knowledge I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6RCDmdWkew
Link on message: #7988686
chzwhz, on Oct 22 2014 - 16:33, said: Are you new? Want to take a first step in becoming a better player?
Then check out this vid... it is a sort of play by play of a battle
where one team was fail and one was not. Simple but effective
knowledge I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6RCDmdWkewpizzastorm: Do you make more of these?
Subject: Excellent not-so-new video to help new tankers.
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Sturm_Pioniere, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:53, said: This pretty much sums up WoT tactics.
How not to be seen.
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Sturm_Pioniere, on Oct 23 2014 - 08:53, said: This pretty much sums up WoT tactics. How not to be seen.
pizzastorm: Haha. I had never seen this sketch before.
Subject: One of the devs shows his office
Link on message: #7988631
Xo39uH, on Oct 23 2014 - 07:55, said: One of the developers of WoT "BYBY3EJIA" shows his workplace. Quite
interesting IMO. The description is in Russian, but the
pictures are self-explanatory.
Link.
Link on message: #7988631
Xo39uH, on Oct 23 2014 - 07:55, said: One of the developers of WoT "BYBY3EJIA" shows his workplace. Quite
interesting IMO. The description is in Russian, but the
pictures are self-explanatory.
Link.pizzastorm: My workplace does not look like this 
Subject: The Chieftain's Random Musings Thread
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The_Chieftain: Near as I can tell, because plot drama. I'd need to see the movie
again to see if the latches were in place, but there doesn't seem,
upon inspection of pictures, to be an external handle.
Subject: Discussão Semanal: Ações conjuntas com entidades externas
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Capitao_Desastre_: E se fosse uma situação comparável à do filme? A WG colaborando com
alguém que estivesse realizando um filme sobre a caçada ao Bismark,
por exemplo?
Subject: Discussão Semanal: Ações conjuntas com entidades externas
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Capitao_Desastre_: Como certamente saberão, a Wargaming colaborou com a Sony na
produção e promoção do filme Corações de Aço (Fury no original),
que infelizmente ainda não estreou no Brasil. Na Europa, a
Wargaming colabora igualmente com alguns museus, auxiliando na
promoção dos mesmos e patrocinando a recuperação de alguns
veículos. A pergunta que queremos colocar é a seguinte: Qual
é a vossa opinião sobre este tipo de ações? Deve a WG procurar mais
ações deste tipo, com parceiros destes ou de outros ramos de
atividade? Dêem suas opiniões sobre o tema. Peço que
mantenham a discussão limpa e educada.
Subject: CC #36 - Memes Blindados
Link on message: #7987739
Grandaark, on Oct 23 2014 - 00:42, said: Quando sai o resultado?
Link on message: #7987739
Grandaark, on Oct 23 2014 - 00:42, said: Quando sai o resultado?Capitao_Desastre_: Espero ter tudo pronto amanhã.
Subject: Springtime for T110 and the Americas
Link on message: #7986562
WarriorOsprey, on Oct 22 2014 - 23:21, said: . Today my gf and I hiked up Frarie Peak on Antelope Island.
Link on message: #7986562
WarriorOsprey, on Oct 22 2014 - 23:21, said: . Today my gf and I hiked up Frarie Peak on Antelope Island.The_Chieftain: You still play WoT, right? How did you get issued one of those?
Subject: Clan Spotlight: [BULLS] 10/20/2014
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HBFT: Come and find [BULLS] out in Absolute Stronghold Skirmishes
from 4-6 PM PDT. 500 gold for a win and 250 gold for a loss.
Double your gold if you send a PM to HBFT with your archived stream
of our battle! :)
Subject: Rants and Death Traps
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The_Chieftain: What's a Mensa number and why should I care?* Cooper's
memoir is indeed a data point. Or, in military terms, it is a
source of information. Information, however, is not intelligence.
The latter is only the result of the processing of information to
incorporate the validity of the information. Cooper's book is an
unreliable source of information as regards many parts of that
book, and conclusions based upon his information are on, shall we
say, shaky grounds, and should not pass muster to proceed from
information (or data point) to final analysis. *Rhetorical
question. I know what it is, and I don't think anyone cares.
Subject: Clan Spotlight: [BULLS] 10/20/2014
Link on message: #7984211
Gamisou, on Oct 22 2014 - 09:56, said: This thing starts today at 7 EDT right? Jokes not allowed while
playing video games, I guess... HAHA
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Gamisou, on Oct 22 2014 - 09:56, said: This thing starts today at 7 EDT right? Jokes not allowed while
playing video games, I guess... HAHAHBFT: The Absolute Stronghold Skirmishes will start at 4 PM PDT /
7 PM EDT today. That is correct!
Subject: READ THIS BEFORE DOWNLOADING/LAUNCHING THE MAC WRAPPER!
Link on message: #7984067
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Pigeon_of_War: Update! We will be using this thread for updated links
for new iterations of the MacWrapper, should new iterations of the
link be required to be updated. Good luck on the
Battlefield, Mac Tankers!
Subject: Escotilla del Chieftain: Discursos y "Death Traps"
Link on message: #7984047
Charly1985, on Oct 22 2014 - 08:13, said: Es muy interesante de como se escribe la historia según la
perspectiva personal , en latinoamerica no se encuentra tantos
libros de origen ruso o japones para leer la historia desde su
punto de vista, la mayoría de la historia que conocemos pertenece
principalmente al lado aliado occidental y en segundo grado al
alemán. Mucho hemos leído y visto películas del desembarco de
normandia y como este volcó la balanza para el lado aliado , pero
la verdad es que los rusos prácticamente ya había liquidado las
fuerzas veteranas de la Alemania nazi, seguramente sin el
desembarco la guerra hubiera durado mas e incluso la rusa comunista
hubiera ganado mucho mas territorio y hoy la historia seria
distinta, pero son solos conjetura y ya se sabe el dicho " LA
HISTORIA LA ESCRIBE LOS VENCEDORES"
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Charly1985, on Oct 22 2014 - 08:13, said: Es muy interesante de como se escribe la historia según la
perspectiva personal , en latinoamerica no se encuentra tantos
libros de origen ruso o japones para leer la historia desde su
punto de vista, la mayoría de la historia que conocemos pertenece
principalmente al lado aliado occidental y en segundo grado al
alemán. Mucho hemos leído y visto películas del desembarco de
normandia y como este volcó la balanza para el lado aliado , pero
la verdad es que los rusos prácticamente ya había liquidado las
fuerzas veteranas de la Alemania nazi, seguramente sin el
desembarco la guerra hubiera durado mas e incluso la rusa comunista
hubiera ganado mucho mas territorio y hoy la historia seria
distinta, pero son solos conjetura y ya se sabe el dicho " LA
HISTORIA LA ESCRIBE LOS VENCEDORES" ElPozoleOlmeca: toda historia tiene dos versiones
Subject: Escotilla del Chieftain: Discursos y "Death Traps"
Link on message: #7984047
Charly1985, on Oct 22 2014 - 08:13, said: Es muy interesante de como se escribe la historia según la
perspectiva personal , en latinoamerica no se encuentra tantos
libros de origen ruso o japones para leer la historia desde su
punto de vista, la mayoría de la historia que conocemos pertenece
principalmente al lado aliado occidental y en segundo grado al
alemán. Mucho hemos leído y visto películas del desembarco de
normandia y como este volcó la balanza para el lado aliado , pero
la verdad es que los rusos prácticamente ya había liquidado las
fuerzas veteranas de la Alemania nazi, seguramente sin el
desembarco la guerra hubiera durado mas e incluso la rusa comunista
hubiera ganado mucho mas territorio y hoy la historia seria
distinta, pero son solos conjetura y ya se sabe el dicho " LA
HISTORIA LA ESCRIBE LOS VENCEDORES"
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Charly1985, on Oct 22 2014 - 08:13, said: Es muy interesante de como se escribe la historia según la
perspectiva personal , en latinoamerica no se encuentra tantos
libros de origen ruso o japones para leer la historia desde su
punto de vista, la mayoría de la historia que conocemos pertenece
principalmente al lado aliado occidental y en segundo grado al
alemán. Mucho hemos leído y visto películas del desembarco de
normandia y como este volcó la balanza para el lado aliado , pero
la verdad es que los rusos prácticamente ya había liquidado las
fuerzas veteranas de la Alemania nazi, seguramente sin el
desembarco la guerra hubiera durado mas e incluso la rusa comunista
hubiera ganado mucho mas territorio y hoy la historia seria
distinta, pero son solos conjetura y ya se sabe el dicho " LA
HISTORIA LA ESCRIBE LOS VENCEDORES" PollotheDestroyer: toda historia tiene dos versiones
Subject: Escotilla del Chieftain: Discursos y "Death Traps"
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Charly1985, on Oct 22 2014 - 08:13, said: Es muy interesante de como se escribe la historia según la
perspectiva personal , en latinoamerica no se encuentra tantos
libros de origen ruso o japones para leer la historia desde su
punto de vista, la mayoría de la historia que conocemos pertenece
principalmente al lado aliado occidental y en segundo grado al
alemán. Mucho hemos leído y visto películas del desembarco de
normandia y como este volcó la balanza para el lado aliado , pero
la verdad es que los rusos prácticamente ya había liquidado las
fuerzas veteranas de la Alemania nazi, seguramente sin el
desembarco la guerra hubiera durado mas e incluso la rusa comunista
hubiera ganado mucho mas territorio y hoy la historia seria
distinta, pero son solos conjetura y ya se sabe el dicho " LA
HISTORIA LA ESCRIBE LOS VENCEDORES"
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Charly1985, on Oct 22 2014 - 08:13, said: Es muy interesante de como se escribe la historia según la
perspectiva personal , en latinoamerica no se encuentra tantos
libros de origen ruso o japones para leer la historia desde su
punto de vista, la mayoría de la historia que conocemos pertenece
principalmente al lado aliado occidental y en segundo grado al
alemán. Mucho hemos leído y visto películas del desembarco de
normandia y como este volcó la balanza para el lado aliado , pero
la verdad es que los rusos prácticamente ya había liquidado las
fuerzas veteranas de la Alemania nazi, seguramente sin el
desembarco la guerra hubiera durado mas e incluso la rusa comunista
hubiera ganado mucho mas territorio y hoy la historia seria
distinta, pero son solos conjetura y ya se sabe el dicho " LA
HISTORIA LA ESCRIBE LOS VENCEDORES" ApolloArtemis: toda historia tiene dos versiones
Subject: FURY Video Contest Discussion Thread
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ArmorAndCavalryAFB, on Oct 22 2014 - 03:11, said: Awesome, can't wait to see the results. Are other videos going to
be shown after the contest ends, or at least the winners vids?
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ArmorAndCavalryAFB, on Oct 22 2014 - 03:11, said: Awesome, can't wait to see the results. Are other videos going to
be shown after the contest ends, or at least the winners vids?HBFT: We are still discussing if we will show other videos, but we
are definitely making the winning videos available so that other
people can see.
Subject: Rants and Death Traps
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Jwilson7020, on Oct 22 2014 - 14:03, said: You are asking the wrong question.... How many lives would
have been saved if we had a MIX of M4s and M26s. If the Tank
Battalions under the Infantry Division MTOEs (the tactical
formations tasked with punching holes for the Armor to exploit) had
M26s instead of M4s, would they not have been better equipped for
the job? "One can only speculate what might have
happened if Patton's forces had had a smaller number of superior
tanks. There would have been fewer engines to be supplied with fuel
and fewer guns to be provided with ammunition [and I add fewer
crewmen to feed] but there would have been greater fighting power
and he [Patton] might have kept going. Would the war in Europe have
ended in 1944 rather than in May 1945 and would the border between
East and West -- soon to become the Iron Curtain -- have been drawn
farther to the east, changing the course of postwar history?"
[Kelly, Orr, King of the Killing Zone, p. 85] Cooper
also speculated that if the M26 had gone into full production
in January of 1944, then at least enough of them may have been
available by Jun/Jul 1944 to have made enough of a difference
tactically to have seized the Ruhr River Valley and forestalled the
Ardennes Counteroffensive, thus ending the war in the ETO by about
six months. But GEN McNair was against putting the M26 in
production because of "rapid deploy-ability" (where have we heard
that before?) issues: we could put five Shermans in the
hold of a Liberty Ship versus one Pershing. They were ONLY looking
at it as a sheer numbers (based on faulty intelligence that pegged
German tank production at twice its actually number [Kelly, p. 84])
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Jwilson7020, on Oct 22 2014 - 14:03, said: You are asking the wrong question.... How many lives would
have been saved if we had a MIX of M4s and M26s. If the Tank
Battalions under the Infantry Division MTOEs (the tactical
formations tasked with punching holes for the Armor to exploit) had
M26s instead of M4s, would they not have been better equipped for
the job? "One can only speculate what might have
happened if Patton's forces had had a smaller number of superior
tanks. There would have been fewer engines to be supplied with fuel
and fewer guns to be provided with ammunition [and I add fewer
crewmen to feed] but there would have been greater fighting power
and he [Patton] might have kept going. Would the war in Europe have
ended in 1944 rather than in May 1945 and would the border between
East and West -- soon to become the Iron Curtain -- have been drawn
farther to the east, changing the course of postwar history?"
[Kelly, Orr, King of the Killing Zone, p. 85] Cooper
also speculated that if the M26 had gone into full production
in January of 1944, then at least enough of them may have been
available by Jun/Jul 1944 to have made enough of a difference
tactically to have seized the Ruhr River Valley and forestalled the
Ardennes Counteroffensive, thus ending the war in the ETO by about
six months. But GEN McNair was against putting the M26 in
production because of "rapid deploy-ability" (where have we heard
that before?) issues: we could put five Shermans in the
hold of a Liberty Ship versus one Pershing. They were ONLY looking
at it as a sheer numbers (based on faulty intelligence that pegged
German tank production at twice its actually number [Kelly, p. 84])The_Chieftain: Mr Orr is correct, one can only speculate. Given the range of
capable assets at an infantry division's command, and the relative
lack of heavily armoured opposition targets, it is quite possible
that the distinction between the two tanks was neglible in
practice. Plus, of course, you still have the matter of producing
and transporting enough M26s to make up battalions of them, which
seems unlikely by the timeline. Maybe they should have looked
at making E2s a little earlier, though their long-term viability
given the weight and mobility issues are something of an open
question to me. I believe some units actually turned them down as
they didn't want to be slowed up. I think the petrol issue
is overstated. Of all the vehicles in Pattons' Third Army, how many
of them were tanks? My guess is that the lion's share of the fuel
was being drunk by CCKWs, GPWs and WC51s. And tanks weren't the
only armoured vehicles either, you also have the SP artillery
battalions and tank destroyer battalions. And no matter how
much better an M26 is than an M4, fewer M26s can be only in fewer
places at once. Again, pure speculation as to the effect.
It wasn't just McNair. Armored Force's position was that
only the M4 could be made reliably in sufficient numbers to
conduct the war in 1944. A point I'm inclined to agree with given
how long it took Ordnance to work the bugs out of the T26. And
AGF/ASF's dithering only delayed production of the first few
hundred by about 10 weeks at most, by Ordnance's own records. I'd
need to see some pretty compelling evidence (Preferably primary
source) to change that timeline.
Subject: A Farewll to Arms...Again!
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KMaus: Dude, thank you to everyone who responded to my questions with such
incredibly thoughtful and determined responses.
@ThePigSheFlies - thanks for responding - i'll be reading this post you linked next. Appreciate you sticking around the forums to talk about your experience in-game
@valkyrie451 - we're working to improve moderation. hang in there with us a bit longer. you're right, and we're on it.
@Salivator / @Smokin_Joe1978 - thanks!! i'm trying to work on making it so that the forums aren't scary and toxic for players. I appreciate players like you patroling and working towards the same goal.
@ThePigSheFlies - thanks for responding - i'll be reading this post you linked next. Appreciate you sticking around the forums to talk about your experience in-game
@valkyrie451 - we're working to improve moderation. hang in there with us a bit longer. you're right, and we're on it.
@Salivator / @Smokin_Joe1978 - thanks!! i'm trying to work on making it so that the forums aren't scary and toxic for players. I appreciate players like you patroling and working towards the same goal.
Subject: A Farewll to Arms...Again!
Link on message: #7981970
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KMaus: Dude, thank you to everyone who responded to my questions with such
incredibly thoughtful and determined responses.
@ThePigSheFlies - thanks for responding - i'll be reading this post you linked next. Appreciate you sticking around the forums to talk about your experience in-game
@valkyrie451 - we're working to improve moderation. hang in there with us a bit longer. you're right, and we're on it.
@Salivator / @Smokin_Joe1978 - thanks!! i'm trying to work on making it so that the forums aren't scary and toxic for players. I appreciate players like you patroling and working towards the same goal.
@ThePigSheFlies - thanks for responding - i'll be reading this post you linked next. Appreciate you sticking around the forums to talk about your experience in-game
@valkyrie451 - we're working to improve moderation. hang in there with us a bit longer. you're right, and we're on it.
@Salivator / @Smokin_Joe1978 - thanks!! i'm trying to work on making it so that the forums aren't scary and toxic for players. I appreciate players like you patroling and working towards the same goal.
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