The IS-3A Reborn!
Дата: 12.12.2018 20:22:25
VarzA, on 12 December 2018 - 12:42 PM, said: Here's feedback, and you need to accept it as statement from
our point of view (backed by stats as well). 268 4 is still
overperforming, 252U is massively overperforming, 430U is
overperforming, LT-432 is a monster. Both of the 2 campaign
missions end with a t10 russian heavy tank. The common thread seems
to be russian tanks. There has never been a point in history where
the russian tech tree has been bad, it has almost always been
overall good or exceptional. I (as a player), do not want a
binary choice of playing russian tanks, or playing other tanks and
having a handicap. I am worried this is the trend this game has
been on for the past 2yrs, and from my point of view (and that of
many in this thread), the IS-3A just confirms it further. I
hope my post was constructive enough. I did not say
arrogance. I hope WG will allow ppl to use 7d free trial for the
IS-3A soon, i am not investing the kind of money one needs to
ensure i get it in lootboxes.
Innapropriate_Username, on 12 December 2018 - 12:43 PM, said: I have it. I am playing it. It is beyond broken on Defender level, maybe even more. How do tanks like Tiger2 in same tier fight against this thing? Defender + IS3A on one side, and Tiger2 and Panther on other side - something here is broken OP.
_Davidge_, on 12 December 2018 - 12:43 PM, said: For those who thonk this will make IS 3A OP please remember again it has 520 HP engine it is slugish. Regular IS 3 has 700 hp.
DaddysLittlePrincess, on 12 December 2018 - 12:43 PM, said: But they're not constructive anymore. Feedback in supertest forum thread was constructive, but it was ignored. No post can be constructive now as WG decided to put this broken mechanic in most broken way on premium tank, which can't be nerfed anymore. It would be OK to put the mechanic on tech tree/reward tank, as they can be adjusted in the future. But this decision was made simply to milk most money from loot boxes, as many people already have Defender, e25 and lefh.
chuao, on 12 December 2018 - 12:50 PM, said: I want IS-3A and IS-3A (B) black edition!!!
ChimPANGzee, on 12 December 2018 - 12:50 PM, said: I am so thoroughly and remarkably disappointed about the "reimagining" of the IS-3A that I am compelled to go to the forums. This is, without a doubt, the strongest heavy tank in the game tier to tier. As many have mentioned it's "estimated dpm" is grossly skewed, it is remarkably dishonest and does not inspire the confidence from the community that you clearly need for this game to keep going. Suggesting that this tank is anything but extremely overpowered, or denying that this will essentially ruin team play at tier VIII (Strongholds, Team Battles or Clan Wars), is nothing short of blatant lying and a big slap to the face. Many of us who play this game have supported the company over many years, some spend more than 100 € every year. It leaves a real bitter taste when you pull a stunt such as this one, and it saddens me to see a game I like so much get ruined by greed (for I can see no other reason behind this decision; if there is one please share). I hope that you back track this change promptly and go back to the drawing board (the idea is interesting but this execution is disastrous), yet I have no expectation what so ever that you will. Please prove me wrong. Please show us that you can get the best out of your creative and competent employees. Please show us that you hear us and that you are working to make this game better. The time for spinning and rhetoric is over, the time for action is now.
Infektid, on 12 December 2018 - 12:56 PM, said: We all know how OP the Progettos are on Skirmishes, but at least when they dump the clip they have horrendous DPM
This thing slaps 1200 damage on 6 seconds and then goes on IS3 mode.... balanced....
So after ruining randoms with your failed MM now you ruin skirmishes.
Bravo WG DA DA COMERADE SOVIET RASHA BALANS.
I guess this criticism won't go up the hierarchy..... after all only good and "constructive" feedback is passed upwards.... This will be dismissed as "whining".
Eaglax, on 12 December 2018 - 01:00 PM, said: it's not an entirely different analogy, because there are comparable tank stats, and by comparing them you can assess how a tank performs approximately, even without ever playing it, just like I know how it would hurt approximately, when shooting myself. And when comparing the stats of the IS-3a with comparable counterparts, it just obvious, that it's not quite right. And to me, the replays and twitch gameplays, which now show the actual gameplay of the new IS-3a, prove that. Not to mention the opinions of much better players than I am. I do know that it's a standard procedure, to release premiums which are broken, so more people buy it (although it hurts the game in the long run, but who cares....) and so does everyone else... your way of apologizing for it by saying: "your opinion is worthless and non constructive because you never played it and have no experience" is just ridiculous and actually quite an insult. and I will not comment on your last sentence, just not worth it..
eekeeboo: Your feedback is welcome. I will pass on the suggestion for
the rental, but it could be people are fortunate enough in the
boxes also. All I can say for now is that more announcements are to
follow.
Innapropriate_Username, on 12 December 2018 - 12:43 PM, said: I have it. I am playing it. It is beyond broken on Defender level, maybe even more. How do tanks like Tiger2 in same tier fight against this thing? Defender + IS3A on one side, and Tiger2 and Panther on other side - something here is broken OP.
eekeeboo: The same tactics I shared with you in the past?
_Davidge_, on 12 December 2018 - 12:43 PM, said: For those who thonk this will make IS 3A OP please remember again it has 520 HP engine it is slugish. Regular IS 3 has 700 hp.
eekeeboo: This is one of the points I'll be making later
DaddysLittlePrincess, on 12 December 2018 - 12:43 PM, said: But they're not constructive anymore. Feedback in supertest forum thread was constructive, but it was ignored. No post can be constructive now as WG decided to put this broken mechanic in most broken way on premium tank, which can't be nerfed anymore. It would be OK to put the mechanic on tech tree/reward tank, as they can be adjusted in the future. But this decision was made simply to milk most money from loot boxes, as many people already have Defender, e25 and lefh.
eekeeboo: It's important to always be constructive, it helps
with the feedback and sharing information. In this instance, it's
important not to have a pre-judged knee-jerk reaction to the tank
like was seen with the ELC even or the badger.
chuao, on 12 December 2018 - 12:50 PM, said: I want IS-3A and IS-3A (B) black edition!!!
eekeeboo: GENIUS
ChimPANGzee, on 12 December 2018 - 12:50 PM, said: I am so thoroughly and remarkably disappointed about the "reimagining" of the IS-3A that I am compelled to go to the forums. This is, without a doubt, the strongest heavy tank in the game tier to tier. As many have mentioned it's "estimated dpm" is grossly skewed, it is remarkably dishonest and does not inspire the confidence from the community that you clearly need for this game to keep going. Suggesting that this tank is anything but extremely overpowered, or denying that this will essentially ruin team play at tier VIII (Strongholds, Team Battles or Clan Wars), is nothing short of blatant lying and a big slap to the face. Many of us who play this game have supported the company over many years, some spend more than 100 € every year. It leaves a real bitter taste when you pull a stunt such as this one, and it saddens me to see a game I like so much get ruined by greed (for I can see no other reason behind this decision; if there is one please share). I hope that you back track this change promptly and go back to the drawing board (the idea is interesting but this execution is disastrous), yet I have no expectation what so ever that you will. Please prove me wrong. Please show us that you can get the best out of your creative and competent employees. Please show us that you hear us and that you are working to make this game better. The time for spinning and rhetoric is over, the time for action is now.
eekeeboo: A tank being capable and strong does not mean it's
overpowered. There are plenty of weaknesses to the vehicle and
situations that the tank is not able to deal with. The
tank change as of now is going to remain, just to remain honest
with you.
Infektid, on 12 December 2018 - 12:56 PM, said: We all know how OP the Progettos are on Skirmishes, but at least when they dump the clip they have horrendous DPM
This thing slaps 1200 damage on 6 seconds and then goes on IS3 mode.... balanced....
So after ruining randoms with your failed MM now you ruin skirmishes.
Bravo WG DA DA COMERADE SOVIET RASHA BALANS.
I guess this criticism won't go up the hierarchy..... after all only good and "constructive" feedback is passed upwards.... This will be dismissed as "whining".
eekeeboo: Whining as long as it's not rude, insulting and without bias
will of course be passed on. But I'm sure you're more than aware of
what happens when you just allow only whining in feedback?
Eaglax, on 12 December 2018 - 01:00 PM, said: it's not an entirely different analogy, because there are comparable tank stats, and by comparing them you can assess how a tank performs approximately, even without ever playing it, just like I know how it would hurt approximately, when shooting myself. And when comparing the stats of the IS-3a with comparable counterparts, it just obvious, that it's not quite right. And to me, the replays and twitch gameplays, which now show the actual gameplay of the new IS-3a, prove that. Not to mention the opinions of much better players than I am. I do know that it's a standard procedure, to release premiums which are broken, so more people buy it (although it hurts the game in the long run, but who cares....) and so does everyone else... your way of apologizing for it by saying: "your opinion is worthless and non constructive because you never played it and have no experience" is just ridiculous and actually quite an insult. and I will not comment on your last sentence, just not worth it..
eekeeboo: It is a completely and entirely different analogy. It's like
saying you know how to cut an onion, so you know how flying an
alien spaceship will feel.
The IS-3A Reborn!