Rants and Death Traps
Дата: 18.10.2014 22:53:47
StrohsVonPabst, on Oct 18 2014 - 20:37, said: Chieftain,Question for you:were you an American tanker IN World War
2? If so,age has been kind to you.Mr.Cooper was an adult serving in
the U.S.Army,dealing with tanks during World War 2The_Chieftain: Nope, I'm far to young for that, obviously :)
Quote Though why you have not made one for Italian armour such as the M13/40 is puzzling.I suppose after reading this,you never will.
The_Chieftain: No, mainly because I've not really had access to one with a
video team. Plus, I haven't found an operator's manual. I'm sure
I'll get around to one eventually, but it's fairly low on the 'near
future' list.
Quote That said,you are,in essence,calling this Man a liar.
The_Chieftain: I prefer to say he's unreliable. To call him a liar would be
to ascribe malice, and I have no reason to believe he was
intentionally setting out to deceive anyone. Intent, however, need
not correlate with accuracy. The bottom line is that not everything
he says is true, and the further from his own sphere of observation
anything was, the less likely, it seems, his statement about it
was going to be true. In either case, it will certainly be
less reliable.
Quote Never-no-mind he attended the Virginia Military Institute was a Captain during World War II,in which he served as an Ordnance Liaison Officer with the 3rd Armored Division, and was awarded 5 Campaign battle stars, a Distinguished Unit Citation, the Belgian Fourragere and the Bronze Star Medal.The Man worked with the very tanks you,it seems in a roundabout way claim he had spurious knowledge of.Also,the guy is dead,you are slapping a corpse.
The_Chieftain: I'm slapping his book, not him. For the purposes of studying
history, I don't care how many battle stars or unit citations
he's earned (I only have four campaign awards, a Valorous Unit
Award, Meritorious Unit Citation and two Bronze Star Medals,
incidentally), his awards don't make his statements such as "Patton
attended a conference and decided to prevent Pershing from being
the tank for the job" true. A statement is true or false on
the face of it, regardless of the intent or the valor of the person
making it. Unfortunately, though we commonly say "Perception
is reality", in the field of research, this is not the true.
Preception is perception, and reality doesn't care what people
perceived. If Sherman crews perceived that putting sandbags on
their tank was going to increase their survivability, even if was a
commonly accepted practice to increase morale, it doesn't stop the
engineers who knew what they were talking about with empirical
evidence from saying "Guys, this actually makes matters worse." Who
would be correct? The crewmen, or the engineers? Cooper's
book can be divided into what he saw, what he interpreted, and what
he heard. What he saw is pretty much to be taken at face value,
absent evidence that he was absolutely wrong. What he interpreted
is to be given some weight, but with the understanding that he is
looking at a problem from only one perspective. What he heard is to
be given the least weight of all. It does not devalue his book as a
memoir, but it should not be confused with a reliable source of
objective information.
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