T110's Second Summer of Love (And Tolerance)
Дата: 10.05.2014 01:03:59
Daigensui, on May 09 2014 - 21:22, said: Have you ever thought about the possibility that if we follow your
logic of "guns are necessary", it's likely the someone with bad
intent would have guns already and would have used it on you before
you can even get to your own gun? You act like as if the defender
is the only one who would have a gun in such situations.
Crime rate of Japan and Korea are much lower than the United
States. That's not statistical evidence to you?The_Chieftain: You have much to learn about gunfights, Dai. "Getting the
drop on someone" has more of a psychological benefit than
necessarily a tactical one, unless one is -expecting- trouble. But
criminals don't expect trouble, they expect compliance. It's a
massive mindset difference which a resisting victim can (and
usually does) take to his or her advantage.
Quote Crime rate of Japan and Korea are much lower than the United States. That's not statistical evidence to you?
The_Chieftain: It is statistical evidence that crime rates of Japan and
Korea are lower. It is not statistical evidence of anything to do
with private ownership of firearms.
Quote Overkill? It's not about likelihood. The man struck by lightning cares not for the odds. It's not about how likely it is that you'll need to defend yourself, it's about whether your right to do so and your right to maintain the means to do so is recognized and honored by your fellow individuals and the society they make up.
The_Chieftain: I agree entirely with this. We're not talking about 'a
right' (at least, I'm not) as in the typical second-amendment
"I have a right enumerated in the bill of rights" thing, but a
natural right as recognised by pretty much any civilisation (modern
and ancient) to defend yourself, by lethal force if required. The
thing about the US is that it takes this natural right and
specifically incorporates it into legislation in such a manner that
the ability to practice that right of defense cannot be arbitrarily
limited without damned good cause.
T110's Second Summer of Love (And Tolerance)