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Your Ideal Tank Contest

Дата: 11.03.2010 22:21:56
View PostLordLothair, on 11 March 2010 - 11:40 PM, said: Just joining the WoT world, and looking forward to spending a good bit of time here with you fine gentlemen.
Before I spend anymore time designing things only to miss the tech threshold, I want to make sure I am understanding the limitations:
1. Are we looking at production capability in mid-1940 or design capability? Many of the things that I have seen posted here so far do exist, on paper, in mid-1940 but the production capability wasn't in place yet. Just because 88s were in use doesn't mean that KwK 88s were being produced yet. The 88s that were used as Anti-tank weapons were improvised, not produced during that time period. Are we designing a prototype based solely off of design and technology limitations, or should we be focusing on a producable unit? The statement in the contest says tanks that "could be seen on the battlefield", this to me says that theoretical designs aren't what the point is, but actual post-testing production models, but maybe I'm making this far too complicated.
2. The statement has been made that mix-and-match is acceptable for designs. Does this include all tech that is present, even if it has not yet been in contact with your design team? By this I mean, the T-34s were running around in mid-1940, but the Germans hadn't dealt with them yet (hence the push for new designs in 1941 for the Panther and other heavier tanks). If I am making a German Pkw in mid-1940, do I have theoretical access to technology I haven't "seen" yet or am I limited to what historical designers had seen?
I'll leave it at that I guess.
Oh, and MrVic: interleavered road wheel designs were in place in 1938-39, such as the VK3001(H), which used torsion bar suspension... assuming we are not working on a production capability because those prototypes weren't actually built until 1941. And you are correct on the Porsche: "...in the 1930s, prototypes of the first Volkswagen Beetle incorporated torsion bars—especially its transverse mounting style." So it just comes down to an issue of hassle to repair. Apparently, it isn't actually as bad as it looks, apparently the treads were more difficult to work with than the torsion bars and road wheels. The Bovington Tank Museum talks about it and shows some great images from their restoration of Tiger 131. http://www.tiger-tan...e/journal12.htm
EDIT: I should have stated that my research on the VK3001(H) refers to the transverse mounting of the torsion bars on interleavered wheels to be "dual torsion bar", I missed actually saying that in there.

MrVic: Cool deal! Ya I suspected they were in the range of 1938-1939 you found the missing piece I was looking for it seems :)
I had yet to finish my research on interleavered from the design side of things.
The rules were tossed out to us to do with what we will. Currently I think I am withing the rules tho enjoying the refresher
course on WW2 tech so currently its just a lot of fun after a long day at work lol.
1) Personally I am steering towards the Design side preferring a prototype of the design
has been made or was considered for production. Also as many items may not have been in production
if you were there they might of made it in the end. hehe
2) I think we are permitted to venture past what the designers in question saw or knew about. I kinda see it as
given how the world was on edge with the events unfolding intelligence gathering was probably in full force on
trying to determine who their enemies might be and what they have to make us go boom. I always see WW2 as probably
the greatest Weapons/Armor Arms race of all time. The rate new ideas where thought up and implement good or bad
was astounding. WW2 was a technological boom creating a unique variety of design.
I try to keep the numbers good as I build one tho I think there is a bust in one of my past tanks. I will have to recheck it later since its a minor bust at best.
Tho that was not really a requirement of the event. More of its how I have to think about things

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