Is the ISU-122S worth getting?
Дата: 18.05.2018 18:41:30
Scorpiany, on May 18 2018 - 02:14, said: Misleading image you've posted. Your ISU-122S is
using values with crew, while the SU-122-44 in the image is
not. The aim time and accuracy for example, are identical. The
image shows it being superior on the ISU-122S when that is not the
case. Use this comparison instead: https://tanks.gg/tank/isu-122s/stats?cs=su-122-44 T
Tanks.gg also shows you hidden statistics that are not shown
in-game. Furthermore, you didn't touch on the impact of the armor
differences nearly as much as you should have. The SU-122-44's
armor is significantly better than the ISU-122S's armor.
The ISU's armor is flat, and only has 100mm of effective
penetration. The SU-122-44's armor on the other hand is angled very
well, and as a result provides 150mm-170mm of effective protection.
This means that while the ISU-122S will provide practically no
protection against most targets that are not shooting HE shells,
the SU-122-44 will be able to bounce most lower Tiered tanks very
reliable, and if angling the armor, the SU-122-44 can create some
auto-bounce angles while the ISU-122S simply cannot. Lastly,
the SU-122-44 is a lower profile vehicle. As a result, its camo
values are substantially better than the ISU-122S. Your image
however, because of the Camo Net you have mounted on the tank,
makes it look as though the ISU's camo is better. The reality is
quite different. The SU-122-44's camo values are as follow:
21.55/12.94/5.82. The ISU-122S's camo values are: 15.05/9.06/2.86.
As you can see, the SU-122-44's camo values are significantly
better all across the board. Overall, the SU-122-44 becomes
a much better assault tank and aggressive flanker because of the
combination of mobility and armor. It's also easier to hide because
of the camo values, which helps it ambush its opponents. This is
especially true in a favorable matchup. The ISU-122S on the other
hand is rather limited in this regard, and only really stands out
in regards to its View Range / firepower. ISU-122S will definitely
have the better gun performance, but it's on a sluggish, poorly
armored platform. This means that the SU-122-44 is the more
competitive tank, and is a better option for all players. The
benefits of the ISU-122S's gun and view range just don't make up
for what it lacks in mobility, armor and camo rating. The SU-122-44
can lay out an ambush, it can flank and it can assault. The
ISU-122S can't do any of those things. While I
understand you were only trying to help, you ultimately ended up
posting false and misleading information. This is one of many
reasons why players don't trust WarGaming employees - It often
feels as though they don't understand the game when they make
decisions. Unfortunately, this displays just that. Because
of a careless oversight when comparing the 2 tanks, using a
comparison tool that doesn't display hidden statistics, as well as
disregarding the impact certain characteristics have on gameplay,
you ended up making a poor recommendation and made an inferior tank
appear far better than it really is.Jambijon: You're absolutely correct! Thanks for bringing that
up. The crew I had in the 122s was the BIA crew along with a
60-65% camo, and the su-122-44 had Camo applied to it. I've
updated the images so values aren't misleading anymore.
My post was to simply to share my experience along with
the simple breakdown of the different values of the tanks, which
obviously was misleading and I apologize for that.
Is the ISU-122S worth getting?














