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King Tiger being restored in Switzerland

Дата: 02.04.2021 00:35:19
View PostPOLIZEI110, on Apr 01 2021 - 05:16, said:
Way too many people have gotten their history lessons from Hollywood movies and television show, everything from Hogan's Heroes portraying Germans as bumbling idiots to Saving Private Ryan as mindless incompetent morons. The reality is quite different, the tiger one and two were feared tanks for good reasons, their kill to death ratios were nothing short of astonishing, sure there were plenty of tanks that broke down, but those that didn't did some serious butt whooping. All you have to do ask a allied soldier of WWII of what it really was like, you'll get a different answer than that of Steven Spielberg.

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View PostPOLIZEI110, on Apr 01 2021 - 01:21, said: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVM471V9IycM471V9Iyc

Jaguarz:    I mean thats cool and all but its an outlier and not indicative of the tanks relevance overall, I mean history is filled with such examples, Agincourt, the battle of Raseiniai and plenty more. A 10 to 1 kill ratio is awesome, unfortunately it doesnt count for much when the other side has a 30 to 1 numerical advantage....  Simple fact is the Tiger 1 & 2 were "bad" tanks in overall terms, they were over-engineered, mechanically fragile, too few in number and almost impossible to repair in the field so when they broke down, which was frequent, they had to set them on fire and abandon them which was a monstrous strategic loss for an idiotic reason whereas a Sherman or T-34 could be fixed with chewing gum and duct tape or abandoned with no loss of overall strength because they didnt carry the same value. A high school student could tell you (now) why interleaving wheels would be a bad design choice, though smooth, fast, would support huge weight AND helped stabilized the gun, they are massively labour intensive and froze together on the eastern front as snow would pack between them. Preventative maintenance was virtually impossible too, torsion bar breakage would be a cascading failure due to the time it would take to take off the interleaving wheels so most of the time they ignored it, which stressed the other bars then more would pop which further stressed. In terms of history its fascinating but the german design and engineering premise at the time has been proven to be a fatal flaw against the mass produced garbage of the US and the USSR in basic terms of supply lines, repairs and volume. Still hindsight is 20/20 and this was all cutting edge and unknown territory at the time so you can forgive design errors unlike forgiving the French for ignoring their own reconnaissance at the Ardennes where almost the entire Germany armour could have been bombed to oblivion. So it seems Tigers should either be camping base as per the video or burning at the side of the road......

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