Clan Spotlight: BADGR 4/28/14
Дата: 28.04.2014 21:17:08
Hypnotik: This week we take a look at BADGR, badger badger badger badger
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(Absolute TC's this Wednesday 4PM PST!) Wandorf
– Commander, I do everything and nothing
Semiorange – Deputy Commander, came from FORGE. Calls battles
and does horrible diplomacy Spishak
– Calls battles and helps plan strats with the other field
commanders Vanagandr
– DepComm. Been with BADGR since PURPL and doesn’t do anything
The abridged portal version of this article is available
here.
How did your Clan initially get things started? Wandorf –
The clan was formed a couple days after the great PURPL implosion.
Originally, we had reformed under the name SPICY, which didn’t last
very long because it was a terrible name and we needed a lot of
support we didn’t have. So we came over to PETCO and now we are
BADGR. Vanagandr – The search for acronyms was really fun.
Semiorange – I got into BADGR when it was SPICY before the
merger because I was trying to get them over to FORGE as I was trying to fix FORGE’s
issues. What SPICY had was a great group of players. What they did
not have was the comradery or the community. You couldn’t get on
SPICY TS and find anyone. Guys would show up for battles and that
was about it. What SPICY really needed, and what BADGR has now, is
people on TS and there is more of a group of guys, not just a
couple people who play tanks during Clan Wars. It desperately
needed that or it was going to fail. How is your Clan
structured? Semiorange – A normal hierarchy. You have Wandorf who
makes the final decision but he does take input from most DCs
except Van because, like he said, he doesn’t do anything. He is the
leader of our anime club but that’s about it. Vanagandr –
That is a slur against my character. Semiorange – We all
have a little say in it. PETCO is a giant gaming community that is
unlike any other one I have been in. We have our Skype channel
where the heads of all the Clans come together and they will talk
about stuff, but when it boils down to the tough decisions, its
Wandorf’s fault. I mean Wandorf’s decision. What was the
process of joining PETCO like? What did you have to change in order
to be part of a larger community? Vanagandr – It was a pretty
straight forward process. We basically just migrated our teamspeak
into the PETCO teamspeak but we lost all of our [TeamSpeak groups]
in the process. That was a shame but otherwise we just changed our
name. Wandorf – When we decided we were going to try and
find a greater community to join, I actually came over here with
Vendetta to see if PETCO would take us. When they heard that we
were looking to do this, they jumped at the offer. Vanagandr
– This was right before the Second Campaign. We were going to be on
our own except for who we could find for allies during the campaign
and we wanted to make sure we had reliable allies, and got as many
of our people the reward tank as possible. What did each
side get out of this deal? Vanagandr – We, PETCO, don’t really have
formal alliances on the map as much but we have a lot of people in
the TeamSpeak that we can hang out with, and a lot of us were
already friends with people in PETCO, So I guess it was an
integration of the community. Wandorf – The command got more
of a support structure. If I needed to bounce ideas of someone,
there are the other commanders. Since we are all friends, we are
able to help out each other if we are near. PETCO is not strictly
an alliance, more of a group of friends that will help each other
out from time to time. Spishak – Going beyond the map, we
help each other with strategies and scrim a lot to hone and tune
our tank battle skills. Do you ever run into any challenges
between the divisions? Semiorange – It’s like a family and everyone
who has a family knows that you fight just as much as your
friendly. There are always inner conflicts and there always will
be. If there aren't any, something is wrong. It’s like your smaller
brother harassment thing; everyone talks a lot of trash. So
who is the older brother then? Semiorange – It’s always going to be
Ziddy, PBKAC. For lack of a better term, it’s
their debacle and Ziddy is normally at the top of the giving but as
well as receiving because he has been around and everyone knows
Ziddy, even Clans that haven’t heard of PETCO. He is considered
Commander of all these Clans, at least that’s how pubbies see it,
which is not what it is. What do consider your Clan’s
greatest achievement? Spishak – To date, it is getting most of our
members the VK because that was pretty hard and tiring.
Where did your members get their Clan Wars experience? Is it mostly
from PURPL? Vanagandr – I’m not sure it is mostly PURPL anymore. We
have a lot of people from other Clans now. Semiorange –
There was a FORGE influx and many were originally from GSA. Half of that group went to
OTTER and the other half went to
various other Clans. Now that we are in PETCO, we are back with 90%
of the friends we started playing the game with. I have friends in
OTTER that I have played with for two, two and a half years now. It
was a nice move for some of us because we are reunited with a lot
of people now and being in a big open teamspeak, you can go find
your friends. When a lot of these guys leave, they stay in the
community. There is PBKAC, OTTER, BADGR and though we have taken
players from OTTER, OTTER has taken players from us. It makes it
really easy to keep your friends. It’s not like going from one
rival to another. Vanagandr – We had a couple of callers
come from OTTER and elsewhere. Spishak – I came from
SSGS. Vanagandr - It was
right about the time of the second Campaign and when we were
integrating into PETCO that we started picking up callers. At that
point it was Scorpion_King and I, and I am an
awful caller. It pretty much ended up being us two most of the time
and that was not working. Wandorf – Vanagandr and I are the
only ones in command from PURPL. As Spish said, he’s from SSGS.
Semi is from FORGE. We still have some of the old PURPL members.
Is there anything you could have done to make the
transitions your Clan has gone through easier? Vanagandr – Yes. I
had a really good acronym. Honorable… wait one second.
Wandorf – Basically, he came up with a bunch of acronyms and BADGR
was the only good one. We were not going to be HORSE.
Vanagandr – It was the "Heroic Organization of Revolutionary
Socialist Equines." Horses are terrifying and would strike fear
into enemies everywhere. Wandorf – If we had taken that
name, we would have attracted all the bronies. With such a
huge teamspeak, do you have interesting stories to tell us?
Vanagandr – Well we have these 2 tags... A long, long time ago,
someone gave themselves Channel Commander and gave everyone in
BADGR the “Really Likes Animals” and “Ponyphile” tags and so now
it’s a tradition. Just about everyone is BADGR gets emblazoned with
it. Semiorange – We are a little laid back in some senses
and you can see that on the Clan Wars map. It’s a very laid back,
fun clan. We had Wandorf’s birthday which we have a 2 hour twitch
of him but that’s not allowed to be displayed until we have a
horrible falling out and then it will just be in CR/D.
Wandorf - As far as wild and zany things, you may have heard about
the BADGR Anime Club. Vanagandr –
To be clear, I am not the leader of the anime club by consent,
rather, I was elected by a bunch of people I don't know, some
people I do know, and Tioga. This is not a democracy, it is a
tyranny of the people. Can you explain why your Clan icon is
holding the Ransack button? Wandorf – That came about when we
decided to take a Canadian Safari with OTTER a couple of months
ago. I was talking to Allurai one night and discussing OTTER’s cool
new pirate otter. He said give him a few minutes and he came back
with that logo. I really like it so I don’t think I’m going to
change it. Vanagandr – Since we have been with BADGR, we
have only had 2, maybe 3, icon changes. One had a purple storm
trooper helmet on them. How do you keep Clan Wars fresh and
interesting for you? Vanagandr - We have Zeppelinisgod post for us.
Semiorange – Fights get picked by all Clans and finally one
Clan has had enough to come hit you. That is how we got into the
THUGZ thing. We had an inactive
member that got us into the whole THUGZ ordeal. It is good for us.
We need some sort of fight. We get fat and lazy. We have never been
known for training. We pick a team 3 minutes before the battle pops
and you run with whatever you got. You try something new and have a
little fun with it and then whine and complain when you lose. Or at
least that’s what I do. Wandorf – Shoutout to Zeppelin for
making most_rage_inducing_Wardecs_NA. Do you have a favorite
WarDec? Wandorf – I don’t think it’s on the forums anymore, it got
nuked. Vanagandr – “1 2 3 4 I declare a unicum war” was my
favorite even if it was kind of my fault. Semiorange – My
favorite was the G one. Wandorf - That one still exists but
the one I was referring to was Zeppelin wardecing all Latin Clans -
the one that devolved in Argentina versus America. What
strategies would recommend to new Clans who are getting started in
Clan Wars? Wandorf – Avoid landing in the United States of America
at all costs. Vanagandr – It used to be Africa you start off
in but now you work from the north down. Spishak – Probably
just the basics - know weak spots, play together, cover tanks and
focus-fire. Vanagandr – In general, there is a hierarchy of
clans. The clans don’t necessarily move around too much unless they
get started with a reasonable base that is already experienced to
begin with. I think it’s more that the players move upwards as
people leave for higher clans or more powerful clans implode.
What do think is the biggest mistake a new clan makes?
Wandorf – Going into Clan Wars too early when they don’t have
enough tier Xs to do anything on the map. Vanagandr –
Wardecing -G-. Wandorf – New Clans should
really make sure they have enough tank depth with tank locking
before they get on to the map. Semiorange – Tank locking is
one of the big ones. We see a couple clans that will land every now
and then and the first fight they give us won’t be bad for their
skill level but the next night they show up in tier IXs. You aren’t
going to win consistently with IXs. Do you have a particular
strat you like to run on certain maps? Vanagandr – There was this
infamous thing with PURPL where we had Batchats everywhere.
Spishak – Our yolo rush on Malinovka Semiorange – The Clan
Wars meta has changed, it’s not as much strategy as it is
countering what side the team is going to push 15 tanks down. It
used to be where we had more strategy but now it is a lot of
rushing. It is a lot of heavy hitting TDs and heavy armor rushing
down one side. We have strats for a few maps still. What's
involved in the recruiting process for your clan? Vanagandr - Our
requirements right now are 5 Tier X Clan Wars viable tanks, 2000
WN8, and 4 nights of availability per week. Anyone who meets those
standards is eligible to join, but we make exceptions for people
who have a ridiculous number of battles or a very high recent WN8
and haven't had a chance to carry their battles from earlier to
their quality of play right now. If we see someone in pubs who's
really good or when people come to us, they're referred to me and
then to DrunkenWarlord. Then we just
make a decision based off of them meeting the requirements and if
we have space right now. What do you think clans typically
should pay more attention to that they often don't, or how to get
high quality new members into a new clan? Vanagandr - One thing
that gets on my nerves is something that people pay too much
attention to is the recent WN8. They'll equate their recent score
to an overall score, and it means that overall during the last 60
days you've only had the equivalent of someone who's gone bad at
the game to being good at the game. It's just not a useful metric
unless you're comparing it to everyone's 60-day. Overall stats are
a much more useful and relevant metric. Wandorf - What clans
shouldn't do is advertise in battle. It's a good way of getting
people to not like you. Semiorange - Yeah, that's the most
annoying thing. Getting your name out there is easy, you get on the
map, but getting on the map is not easy. You have to train, it
helps a lot. A clan of horrible players that can focus-fire and
trade damage will still win. Going back as far as PURPL's start
[when I was in GSA], we played with each other for a year and our
strats were okay, our focus fire was good, but the one thing we did
was share our hit points very well. When PURPL came at us they
didn't do well against us at first, even though they were all
"unicums" because they pubbed it. It shows that if you can
focus-fire, share hit points, and not poke out - if you get your
guys to do that, it doesn't matter if your clan averages 3k WN8 or
1800, you're viable to be in the top 20 clans. If you have a clan
with less stats but good discipline, you will have no problem
getting up there. That discipline goes a long way for new clans.
Vanagandr - To the advertising in game, an analogy I'd make
is fishing. If you go out and trawl for fish, You may get a bunch
of fish, but you can't really guarantee anything about the quality
of those fish. If you're fishing with a rod, you can see if one's
good enough or throw it back if you don't need it. What I'm trying
to say is you're going to have an overall better quality of players
if you look at everyone on a individual basis instead of just
advertising and trying to get everyone in. Spishak - For new
clans, I don't think there's an easy way of doing it. You're going
to have to get on the map somehow. The new players and new clans
that are coming in, you don't see as many of them using the forums.
It's like they don't know they exist yet, and don't get the
correlation between the clans system and forums until a few months
in. Vanagandr - The forums are great because you can miss a
conversation about something related to the game and you can go
back and read it later, and get just as much out of the
conversation as if it were happening right in front of you. I think
a lot of people would have a better grasp at the game if they
looked at the forums to see what people are talking about. There's
a lot of insightful conversation that goes on in the forums, but
there is some less insightful stuff of course. Semiorange -
I think recruiting for small clans is always going to be hard.
Having been in small clans, everyone wants to be better than they
are. If they don't, then they don't belong in a clan anyway.
Everyone wants that next step, and to be better you need to play
with better players. If you have a core group and can get to a
mediocre level and can hold land, you'll keep your people. If you
can't get that, that's when you have your problems and people don't
want to stay. It's easier to move than it is to recruit.
Vanagandr - That's how I got where I am. I think I went through 4
imploded clans and one that I left because I realized none of what
they were doing on the map was succeeding. When I joined PURPL, I
was green in stats, and now I've gotten much better by playing with
good people. Other than CW, what does your clan do to build
a community and keep people interacting with each other? Spishak -
The anime club, for one. Vanagandr - We made a mistake and
brought Tioga060 into our clan. It was a
grave error. Vanagandr - As far as building our community
goes, I'll just accept platoon invites from anyone within the clan.
Every once in a while I'll run into people I haven't played with
before and find out that they're really chill guys. Spishak
- I think we tried to do historical battles together.
Anything you guys would like to add? Wandorf - As far as clan
management goes, I used to do a lot of gold tracking and stuff
manually. I just wanted to say to any clan managers reading this,
try out the WoTManager system (http://wotmanager.com), it'll
remove a lot of stress from your life. Vanagandr - You can
also see info from the recent past to see what players are and are
not showing up lately.
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