Death_on_2_Treads, on May 30 2021 - 13:46, said: Except this isn't in individual game. Its a team game, and your
example doesn't address the teams. Your example shows an OUTCOME.
No one wants and outcome, they want a fair start. They all want the
same 100M race. We are all playing the same
matched tanks, or the same matched tiers, on the same map. The
distance isn't any different. So lets take your
running analogy, the distance isn't the factor, the skill is the
factor. If you have to relay teams of people, and in
Example 1 and you put: Team #1 - Carl Lewis, Usain Bolt, Jesse
Owens, and Michael Johnson on one team, Team #2 - four high
school runners (these 4 runners are equal to each other, but not of
the same caliber as group 1) Then welcome to random,
because this match can and does happen. Sure, it is extreme example
and yes, every once in a while Carl Lewis falls down rounding a
turn and the high school teams wins, but, that is rare. In
Example 2, SBMM, you would have: #1 - Carl Lewis
, Usain Bolt, and two high school
runners #2 - Jesse Owens, Michael Johnson and
two high school runners Now the race is fairly
equal at the start, not perfect, but closer to
being decided by who runs best that day, not by lopsided skill
distribution. Example 1 is the match that should be
eliminated from ever occurring.
DeviouslyCursed: First off, I guess you've never been to a track meet where
TEAMS compete against each other for points based on placing 1st,
2nd, 3rd. But ignoring that, your example doesn't work either.
The high school runners are like tier 5's, the Olympic Champions
are tier 10's. Your example is like all tier 5's facing all tier
10's. Which does NOT happen in Random MM. In fact, your solution is
to have two tier 5's and two tier 10's per team, which is just as
stupid and current Random MM won't allow that. So your example
doesn't even happen in Random MM. SBMM is everyone getting to
the Olympics, and then dividing the teams up based on run times
regardless of which country they are from, so that all teams have
the same chance of winning.
Siege_Engine, on May 30 2021 - 14:03, said: ^^^ This. How can this point possibly be made
any simpler? It's simple common sense. The only
two arguments I've heard against this, that make any sense, is
that i) the blow out races are more interesting and ii) better
players benefit more from blow out races. I don't agree with
that being a good thing, even a little bit. But
they're the only two counter-arguments that have made any
sense. It gets down to this: Do you want to
start with a fair race, or don't you?
DeviouslyCursed: How can this point possibly be made any simpler? It's
simple common sense. Do you want to start with a fair race
where abilities matter, or don't you?