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Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?

Дата: 23.05.2021 07:42:07
View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 22 2021 - 23:46, said: blah blah blah, I still don't pick the teams.  MM is 100% responsible for balancing the battles... - - Really?  "ALWAYS"... - So the first two players picked for the team are Mr.10k and Mr.2k - The next two players picked are both 10k players.  Did Mr. 10k get a worse teammate?  Suddenly 'always' sounds like a stupid thing to say...

DeviouslyCursed:  You do understand plural, right? I never said they always get a worse teammate, I said worse teammates. You'd have to be a moron to say it singular, and you'd have to a moron to think that's was I was referring to. What I am referring to is the total pool of 14 teammates. It's always worse. Let's see how your example plays out... 

View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 22 2021 - 23:46, said: Let's build on this; please tell me how Mr.10k is screwed below: skill          team 1     team 2                 Mr.10k     Mr.2k purple         2             3 blue            2             2 green         3             3 yellow         2             2 red             5             4

DeviouslyCursed:  Yep, you gave the 10K guy worse teammates. Thank you for demonstrating I was correct all along, and you are an idiot. 

View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 22 2021 - 23:46, said: Funny, you seem to care so much about those 5 purples YET YOU IGNORE IN THE ORIGINAL TEAM LAYOUT MR.10K HAD THE SAME DISADVANTAGE.  Where is your outrage for the unfairness in the original team composition???  

DeviouslyCursed:  Under Random MM, we all get the same randomness, so it's always fair. 

View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 22 2021 - 23:46, said: Here is why I'm right and you're wrong.  Under my sbmm - neither team has an advantage/disadvantage.

DeviouslyCursed:  Here's why I'm right and you're wrong. For neither team to have an advantage, players MUST be assigned disproportionate teammates. See your own example above. Why did you give the 10K player worse teammates than the 2K player when balancing the battle? Because you had to. Always. 

View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 22 2021 - 23:46, said:  Under random mm, one team always gets the shaft.  

DeviouslyCursed:  So desperate to match me in my "always" statement (which is true about teammates in SBMM), you make an idiot of yourself by claiming Random MM always has lopsided teams, which is not true. 

View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 22 2021 - 23:46, said: This is proven by your use of 'over time'.  Which is a clear statement that over time there are unbalanced battles. Sbmm NEVER EVER has unbalanced battles.  There is no 'over time' in sbmm, every single battle is fair.   hurp durr....

DeviouslyCursed:  Yep, over time with Random MM there are unbalanced battles, and we all get the same types of battles, so no player is treated differently. That is fair. You keep stating this like we are trying to hide it, or avoid it. I've admitted it from the start. I'm just okay with it because Random MM treats everyone the same. To get even matches, SBMM has to treat players differently, meaning it screws over some, and helps others. ALWAYS. This is not fair.  An the other hand, you keep avoiding this fact. You are the turd that's attempting to be deceitful and hide things you don't want to acknowledge. So come on, admit it. "SBMM must give the 10K player worse teammates than the 2K player to balance the match." It's not hard, you even showed it does in your example above. Lets hear you admit it. Note, I didn't say "teammate" singular. Nor did I say "team" which would include the players themselves. Teammates. The 14 teammates used in the match. Either admit the 10k player gets worse teammates, or show me how SBMM is going to balance that match with identical 14 teammates on both sides.  

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