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Why do Some Argue Against Skill Based MM?

Дата: 18.05.2021 03:19:56
View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 17 2021 - 21:03, said:
Ok, finally a sliver of sunlight.  I am in total agreement on a "per tank" sbmm.  That makes a lot of sense.  What doesn't make sense is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.  We KNOW the current mm does not factor in skill at all. We know this makes about 40% of all battles junk unbalanced crap.  So just because xvm, or wn8, aren't 'perfect' we shouldn't use them at all?  That's crazy talk. 

DeviouslyCursed:  This issue is SBMM brings in other problems. From longer queue times to other forms of unfairness (see below). And I've said it multiple times, and most people who want SBMM never acknowledge it: The best matches to win are the ones you were supposed to lose. That doesn't happen with SBMM. 

View PostSimplyPzB2, on May 17 2021 - 21:03, said: So you, bold text, freely admit the battle is unbalanced.   Which, by definition, is unfair.   Got it.    But then jump of the cliff and say "it's fair because we call get unfair battles" what?  If you are in line at the movies (remember when we could do that...)  and the guy selling the tickets punches ticket buyers in the face, you'd be ok with that as long at it was done at random - and over time we all get punched in the face???  What???  Wouldn't it be better if no one ever got punched in the face.     Your "position" is "acceptance" of a crappy situation.  Which is a crappy position to take...  

DeviouslyCursed:  And with SBMM players are deliberately assigned better or worse teammates than another player. Which, by definition, is also unfair. Got it. But to jump off the cliff and say "it's fair because the team now has an equal chance to win" what?  If you are in line at the movies (I remember, I just never went that often cuz meh..)  and the guy selling the tickets charges the person in front of you $0.25 for his ticket, and you go to buy yours and your total is $825.00, you'd be okay with that? Movies take $X dollars to make, if you and another person both want to see it, isn't it fair that you contribute the same proportion of income to that viewing? If you can contribute more, why shouldn't you be forced to? What??? Wouldn't it be better if it was equal for everyone? If you want to go to the movies more, get a better job, or work overtime. (If you want more wins, get better. If you want more fair teams, stop triple platooning, or deliberately platoon with lesser skilled players. There are some really cool people who can't play the game worth s***). Your "position" is "acceptance" of a crappy situation.  Which is a crappy position to take... The simple fact is: both versions have a degree of unfairness, and fairness, in them. The question of which is better is often subjective. But to deny there are any negatives to either side is being dishonest or clueless to the extreme. My position is that Random is superior to even the best SBMM. My major concern with changing to a SBMM is that often the best SBMMs aren't even used, but some screwed up version instead. My biggest concern? If they switch to a SBMM and it's not a per tank rating but an account wide one instead, this game is effectively dead to me. I would not play it if they did that.

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