Equipment 2.0 Is Here!

Дата: 10.08.2020 11:44:07

Aivison, on 07 August 2020 - 03:31 PM, said: I should for sure, someone is saying me I was playing the game for a year that wasn't the game I was playing. 1st slot I had a vertical stabilizer in first slot and now I'm forced to use some stupid turbocharger that gives +4km , I could use 2nd slot for vertical stabilizer, bet then I loose coated optics so I can't see sh*t, also not an option, lets remove gun rammer and put vertical stabilizer in 3rd slot. Then you wait for a week for gun to reload, that's fu*ked up. Plan B, remove coated optics throw gun rammer and coated optics, then you wait for a week for circle to narrow. You will say it's your choice and no one forcing you to use new equipment, but then what's the point of the update. Whatever, more you talk more you point out GOLD which I said I don't have problems with, IT IS NOT GOLD, IT IS DUMB EQUIPMENT. And if you call loosing players an evolvement then it's not me who need to seek medical advise. And my bread is still a bread, but not the game you saying it's not what I played for more than year.

eekeeboo: You can still put whatever you want in any slot, it's up to you whether you want or feel the bonus is worth it or not, you have 3 slots to work with after all. The equipment you list has not differed greatly from the equipment you know and used before. And while you are merely saying "it is not gold", the absolute second I don't mention it, like you have above, someone takes a statement out of context. Losing players is both evolving game and the genre of gmaing. Over time no game ever has kept 100% of its players from day 1 to day 3650, there are many reasons players leave, and your reason or the reason you percieve is not always "the" reason. While you keep the game the same, the people who played before, will not come back, change things up. Then new people might want to experience and prefer the change. Your bread may be bread still, but the longer you don't eat it, the more stale it becomes, no one likes stale bread, that's why you buy new bread.

GaleForceEight, on 07 August 2020 - 03:37 PM, said: And yet on the tutorials, it USED TO give advice that the freely transferrable mods were a good thing until you could afford and know what best to choose. Now that advice is gone and you are trotting out the new mantra like a good boy.

eekeeboo: That's because again, something is better than nothing, and eating chocolate can be a good thing, eating nothing but chocolate in 3 tonnes a day.... not so good. Purely exaggeration, but you get my point I hope. Just because it can be a good thing, doesn't mean it's always a good thing.

BRONSON1972, on 07 August 2020 - 03:41 PM, said: I was not miserable, I loved this game as did the majority of players as they would not keep playing it, but the changes are so radical, unfair, unwanted and over complicated that it is making a lot of players miserable, this update is making players miserable, if we are on here voicing our disappointment at this its because we actually care and love(d) the game, otherwise we wouldn't give a damn and just move on, 60,000 battles I have played on this in nearly 7 years, I have invested a lot of time and money in this game, I have seen many changes, not all I liked or agreed with, but never have I had to voice my disappointment so much or at all, as with this one, you will see from my record I have not bothered to even play a single game since after I went through all the downgrades and how they worked and what it meant for us and how bad it actually was, but I understand now WG's stance, 'shut up, put up and open your wallet', no thankyou, not anymore, their silence on this speaks volumes to us all I think I can safely say, I won't bother to comment on here again, its obviously a waste of time, they do not care about their loyal consumers only profits, I will keep an eye open for any updates on this problem but as dasdon says, 'out of sight out of mind'.

eekeeboo: And you voicing your passion is a good thing, but I ask you to not mistake "your" with "our", while you and a fair few others on here are unhappy at some changes, there are still many who are happy and like the changes on other platforms. I'm sure you can also understand that silence is not the approach, it's simply that I and many others cannot be everywhere all the time at all times. I wish you good fortune in your games, whether they be ours or another.

vixu, on 07 August 2020 - 04:11 PM, said:

Well.... I am a bit annoyed that because I was not around to dismount all binos and nets from tanks I am now having some 50+ pieces of equipment on the tanks where I don't want them to be.

eekeeboo: That is unfortunate and a definite element of frustration, but over time you'll get there or you can use the demount kits.

DoomHerald, on 07 August 2020 - 04:21 PM, said: So the ingame equipment info is just wrong (or at best - uncompleted). Also, which is maybe another topic - if RNG says "fak u", no matter what u do or have - u r screwed: I got lit from the first shot with 7.5% chance to happen (cos I also got Prev maint on my driver), one of my teammates got his ammorack blown up in two shots. And u call this a competitive game. Yeah, go compete with RNG like that.

eekeeboo: You know from the other game we met Doom, WoT was never pure competitive, it's arcade fun and was always meant to be, you can be competitive in it, but the game itself is not, as you say with RNG and other random elements that help keep things fun for most will not have a pure skill requirement, though skill will get you a long way, it is not the traditional skill that gets you far in tanks. It's situational awareness and tactical intelligence.

Dedeyed_Dik, on 07 August 2020 - 07:09 PM, said: so ive been an avid collector . 255 tanks in garage all got new 75% crew and played them through the bad period of getting them to 100% then start on skills (Oh the grind is painful and you get awful stats and take a trolling along the way) ive lost my bounty gun rammer from garage. very bad and demotivated by that. BUT why would i pay Gold to demount equipment. some tanks you grind through to get to higher tier now it costs physical cash to do that. people will not now grind as many tanks so variety on battlefield will fall away. people will not chase Top of the Tree as cost is now gold to grind. i cant think what crew 2.0 is going to be like but it seems you are deaf at WG development so im shutting my wallet and now only playing a few games a day. Personally when you lose 50mill euros, maltese pounds, roubles or any other currency i think you will start to listen. i am not renewing my premium account, the wheeled tanks was nearly the last straw but this anniversary is our divorce. it was great before 1.0 so thanks for the memory

eekeeboo: Good luck to you, but I want to highlight your rammer is still there. You don't need to use gold, use demount kit, it's really that simple or destroy it, both of which are free. Ironically you also list crew 2.0, though it hasn't been properly announced yet what we're going to actually do, at this stage in your sentence you're looking for an argument and reason to stop, no matter what it is. I really wish you the best of luck finding what it is you're looking for.

kd5, on 07 August 2020 - 09:05 PM, said:

eekeeboo: Please stay on topic.

ibrox3, on 07 August 2020 - 10:21 PM, said:
I look at posts like this he's played 10,000 battles and comes on the forum for only the FIFTH time - yes just 5 posts ever - to say hes Uninstalling. So he is not a serial complainer. Neither is a serial apologist , he is not the virtually only supporter of these changes having made 3000 posts. He is an ordinary player who has lost fait ahd has better things to do - better even than spend his time complaining. Now WG what are you going to do? Listen to Mr Reasonable or ignore him - them - again and lose a host of players ? It's your income / livelihood at stake.

eekeeboo: We listen to everyone, but listening and acting on the feeddback of, are very different things. We act in the best interest for the majority and the long term health of the game. As always.

ibrox3, on 07 August 2020 - 11:45 PM, said: So you have watched the video all about Pearl River then ? Interesting bit about that vid , it refers to arty fiing into the village early on, then ignores arty completely as a contributor to the battle. It shows that WG could not care less about arty they are an inconvenience - even though as many people play arty as any other class. Corridors , heavies, high tiers , gold spam, play to win. Eeekaboo, you correctly state that a free game still has to charge and pay the bills. I wrote at length earlier on how this "free" game grew massive on word of mouth, what were you doing 10 years ago whilst we were playing this ? Because it was fun, because it was "free" we had no problem recommending it to loads of people and recommending premium account to help the grind. Eh voila a load of CA$H was spent - a winning formula. It was changed when they realised it had become a big business - since then the gameplay changed to edge everyone towards spending credits so they needed - Not wanted - premium tanks / accounts. At that point my friends switched off. Its too ingrained with WG now , make people pay for content rather than wanting it......

eekeeboo: The arty part is because once the battle is in full swing, any arty player will support any flank that's struggling, not just focus on the middle

And while you are correct in word of mouth for all the growth etc, after 10 years a game as old as WoT is always hard to suggest in environment as full of F2P games of quality now

Doesn't mean we won't stop trying to keep that excitement and joy there to share the game with friends, that won't happen by keeping everything the same. As with any game development there is a phase where you need to help monetise to keep up with all the non-monetised, like all the anniversary content that's been released that people may or may not like, but has to be paid for somehow for development

Dimitur2389, on 08 August 2020 - 01:39 AM, said: Do anybody thinks for low end pc players, because after this epic faill with 1.10,game start crashing after i open the new epic equipments screen.For one night 20 times i open this screen and 14 from them whas a crash to dekstop.,because new UI eat more RAM. And all this for what, for what WG, i read so many bad coments here, and in Twitter and FB.For this patch 98% from players hate the new equipment, and you just say whe have surveys,but this surveys seems wrong see to your self... Sorry WG you lose me like a customer, i will just sit and wach how you ship called WOT sink.......

eekeeboo: If you're actually here for your technical problem, please contact support. If you're here to say you're uninstalling, I wish you luck. I will ask for you to provide you statistic on 98% of players hate it plase

HerrWilhelm, on 08 August 2020 - 02:59 AM, said: Since I put vents always in slot 2 and gunrammers always in slot 3, how do I just move them to slot 1 in I want to without the cost of demounting?
I can stay on the tank, only for the cause of a bonus it have to change the slot number.

eekeeboo: In the equipment area, you can do it there for free

Just simply move it across.

Smegger213, on 08 August 2020 - 09:14 AM, said: I have never heard such a garbage excuse as this. Removing free movement of Binos, Camo Net & Toolkit has NOTHING to do with making sure peeps don't fit them to a Maus. Its a pure MONEY GRAB, nothing more. Actually, there are many higher tier TD's that require Binos & Camo Net. Plus if you wan't to set up a scout for passive scouting, then I would fit Binos. Mind you, who am I trying to kid. Wargaming removed all the passive scout bushes from maps years ago. For players starting out, having 1 set of Binos, Camo Net & Toolkit was a godsend. Now they are screwed. Just like all lower tier tanks are now screwed due to loss of equipment and consumable slots. Whoever thought this one up is a brain dead idiot. Now tier 1, 2, 3 and 4 will face tanks higher tier than them that have an extra advantage. Good luck with trying to get new players to stay playing with that one. Oh and the other excuse is the equipment was stale and needed a rework. I agree with you on this one. But all that was needed was removal of old unused equipment, and put in some new ones. Nobody asked for the dumb complicated interface. Nobody asked for stupid specialist slots that are NOT needed. I have played since August 2012, spent a ton of money on lots of premium tanks and premium time. But after an hour or so of studying the change to the game on Monday night, I DECIDED ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. The game has been un-installed. Which is probably a good thing, since your next screw up is going to be Crew 2.0.

eekeeboo: That's because while you see your game, we have the numbers of people doing interesting things and as the game wanting to not encourage people to do "silly" things, then you have to reduce the chance to do "silly" things. I also suggest if you want a constructive discussion, change your tone. For the remaining statements, you can now earn equipment WAY easier than you used to, when cmao, bino and toolbox were the only real items you could grab, now they're in top of the tree, missions and events. New players also have nothing to worry about with this, now that lower tiers are simplified in terms of equipment. And while you did not ask, there are many people who did and many players who left who might have stayed with a better interface to before. And again, you make this statement on uninstalling regularly smegger, I hope one day you decide to install.

ibrox3, on 08 August 2020 - 09:54 AM, said: Precisely. Add in some NEW equipment and let us CHOOSE. Its quite easy , we are not a Planned Economy - perhaps that is where the problem is. If you had added in new better suited equipment as an option - players would have willingly demounted their equipment. Willing ground out another 500,000 credits , or 600,000 if you wanted to reprice the new. There would have been no controversy. But its the hidden agenda which matters , not giving players more options. Why do low tier Glass cannon TD's not get gun rammers any more. They have no armour, no turret , no manoeuvrability, no where to hide, the only thing they had was some firepower and now that is gone. Higher tier lights can now spot tanks 3 bushes back - hardly necessary as all the bushes are removed - where can you find 3 bushes to hide in ? So again glass cannons have no chance - you see how the meta of the game is changed ? No armour = useless so push us to the heavily armoured , or the heavy tank. Why ? So everyone spams more gold and burns through more credits. Then force everyone down corridors showing front armour - same result . It's so transparent, its been happening for years. I bet you have the statistics that show the overall credit spend per battle at each tier has been going up every year for the last 5 years. I bet someone wheels out that chart to justify their job........ I bet he does not show the chart that the overall number of battles , and therefore the overall credit spend per day/ week has been falling for the same time. Once again though - this game became MASSIVE because people were having fun, wanted to play , wanted to learn and wanted to buy premium time..... Now those players I still know playing , feel embarrassed if they still have premium time left on their accounts.....

eekeeboo: You can still choose the main equipment pieces, very little has change in this part. You mentioned new and better equipment, but when those were added, the feedback was negative for it being too strong and making other equipment pointless. So you either improve all the others and then people complain only those who can afford equipment will always win, or you bring it down. There's no winning with statements like the one you make. With change, always comes controversy, no matter how it's done, there's always going to be someone unhappy because people don't like change, no matter how good it is. And then your feedback goes into elements barely related to equipment, for which equipment does not play into, more the player skill.

Bordhaw, on 08 August 2020 - 10:57 AM, said: That is not what your colleagues have told us on this very same thread and whilst you and your colleagues say one thing the actions do not match what you say as a whole. So it is little wonder that the major of players here on the forum feel differently when the evidence is right there. The silence from WG has been deafening. Actually, I'll add that the silence from WG and any CC has been deafening in regards to Equipment 2.0.

eekeeboo: I've been in nearly every content creators stream, channel, video and blog, the feedback has been said plenty. And while we listen and gather all feedback, listening does not mean action. You act on th emajority, not on the minority, and you do it in an informed way backed by stats not through a knee jerk panic reaction because 1 tread for instane is negative. Generally speaking the players that come to the forum are different players to the "average" player, forum players are the most dedicated and usualy "old school".

Zhu_Bajie, on 08 August 2020 - 12:13 PM, said: Wow eekeboo, that is really weak sauce. Did you come up with that excuse yourself? Making freely unmountable equipment for gold has nothing to do with restricting its use for certain tanks... Even you cannot possibly believe that drivel. A player who still wishes to use that equipment on his or her Maus can still do so - and surely some players still regard that insanity as a valid tactical option. If you truely had the intention to keep players from making equipment choices you and WG regard as wrong, you could easily have restricted the use of that equipment - just as certain tanks cannot use vertical stabilizers or rammers. People are now still not forced to consider the right equipment. They can still make the wrong decision and have the wrong equipment on the wrong tank. Also you having mentioned equipment diversity as one of your key goals several times gives your above statement a bad look. I am not defending people red line camping in heavies, but why do you think you can tell people how they are supposed to enjoy their game?

eekeeboo: Check the article and many answers before, just because you don't like the answer, doesn't change the answer. While a player can still use the wrong equipment on their Maus, they are not going to do it any more just because they can at no cost. Like with anything, you can never make something 100% accident proof, you just remove as many chances as possible for a person to get into an accident. You say "could easily have restricted" - That's exactly what was done while overhauling the system. If you want a full list of reasons all together (which is what I added above, and you selected one small statement from many) then feel free to read the article or an entire response of mine, not just a select part. And "why" to the how people to enjoy their game, because no one actually enjoys red line sniping in their maus, not the player who blames the team for failing and not the team for raging at the maus red line sniper. People enjoy a game far more when they play it right.

geekuma, on 08 August 2020 - 12:42 PM, said:

eekeeboo: Going to short this one, great feedback and while I appreciate your closing sentiment, a "geeky company" rarely has a game survive 10 years, that's the unfortunate truth. The game companies that survive are the ones that are also not afraid to monetise effectively to stay alive.

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