SPG Rebalance: Changing the Stun Parameters

OtherPlans, on 22 March 2019 - 01:21 PM, said: I agree with Homer_J: arty is now gonna wait for stun to wear off one tank, then shoot the same tank again. Doesn't sound like it will be much better.   The article says "Our adjustments will consist of several large blocks. First we're planning to reduce the duration of the stun from all artillery hits on already stunned vehicles." Am I understanding correctly that there are other large blocks of adjustments you'll make besides what's in this article? Or does this article cover all these large blocks you mention?    


BoGustavus, on 22 March 2019 - 01:22 PM, said: So the focus of these changes were 1) make non-arty players enjoy the game more and 2) make arty-players enjoy the game more? Nerfing the possibility for arty to deal damage and nerfing the stun duration and increase the value of spalliner (who today is almost an almost irrelevant addition)  will please the non-arty playerbase yes.   But i question, who does this make playing arty more fun? You mention rebalancing of entire techtrees and specifically the poor GW Panther who traded 1 tiny second of reloading time for alot of inaccuracy! Are thees the changes you plan in general for arty? If so, I can tell you you missed the mark completely of making the game more enjoyable for arty-players!


Hocus_Pocus_Gold_Focus, on 22 March 2019 - 01:25 PM, said: Sooo... now I'm going to ask the most important question of this topic   When are we going to get a tier 8 premium spg?  


USA_G, on 22 March 2019 - 01:30 PM, said: The core problem of spg's is that they are not doing what they were supposed to do which is to stop camping, they did quite the opposite which was punish any sort of play that is not camping. I suggest that a different kind of utility that would make the battles more fun and dynamic is something like smoke screens, area denial effects which would promote players to take risks and make the game more fun to play resulting in a more dynamic battlefield. A easy way to balance this is to make artillery do specific roles when the battle starts, A roll of the dice would be able to set it to play for example with only AP rounds with higher reload rate (around 90-130 sec) HE rounds that do splash damage in a wide radius and apply a small stun and finally smoke and area denial shells that would cover or deny an area. When the battle starts randomly arty will get one of these 3 options and no 2 SPG's can have the same option in the same team.   tl;dr : Make arty a support class which promotes dynamic game play with cool mechanics.


pihip, on 22 March 2019 - 01:53 PM, said: Ok so, I'll be that one idiot and say it out loud.

First, artillery was the "whack-a-mole" and it was a pain to land a shot, but when it landed, it hurt like hell. People cried, mamma WG answered, and we got the 9.18 big nerf.   Then, artillery becomes this poor joke of a class where damage has become pathetic, but we get the stun mechanic which does two things - 1) makes players even more frustrated than they usually are and 2) SHOULD make arties team-based vehicles but hardly does that since actual teamwork is a rare sight in randoms.
Now, we're getting the stun effectiveness nerfed (plus additional nerfs here and there) with nothing to counterbalance it (e.g. buff to alpha). Also, we still have several maps that limit the usefulness of arty to almost nothing.

Perhaps you should just remove the class, refund the credits, exp and gold, and be done with it once and for all? WoWs did something similar with aircraft carriers, so there's a precedent. And last I checked, WoWs is a WG game.


Geno1isme, on 22 March 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:   Dream on. In practice arties will either not care about stun at all and just go for damage, or start timing their shots for maximum effect.   Seems to be more of a cosmetic change without noticable consequences.