Voting for EU 1/2 servers with arty and without arty.

Simeon85, on 07 January 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:   Except one is a legitimate complaint because the player has no viable counter or strategy against indirect fire, whereas the second is a learn to play issue because players do have a viable counter and viable strategies against it.    'Invisible enemies' is just bad play and bad players not understanding how the game mechanics work, how view range and camo mechanics work and how they can be used.   People complaining about arty there is no ignorance or lack of knowledge, there is just no ability for them to do anything about it in game because indirect fire has no realistic counter. Even counter within the class, counter battery is pretty much dead and is a wholly ineffective tactic for arty players as tracers were nerfed to near invisibility. 


laulaur, on 07 January 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:   This is exactly like saying that a person has cancer, diabetes and hair loss - and someone who is having the cure for cancer says: ''Why bother curing that cancer, he is still gonna be sick of diabetes and hair loss and everyone dies sooner or later. So let him die of cancer, no point of curing him''   If humanity would have guided herself by your principles of dealing with problems - we would still hunt with stone axes/spears and live in huts, because 'why bother getting rid of bad things, something else will be bad always'.


psychobear, on 07 January 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:   This is utterly wrong and the analogy simply doesn't stand. It's been repeatedly proven that games without arty provide hugely more fun and fluid gameplay, so removing it would cause no "internal injury" whatsoever. In fact it would result in instantaneous and complete healing.


LordMuffin, on 07 January 2019 - 11:45 PM, said:     Your first paragraph is like wtf? Acid is not a damage type in SC nor SC2. SCroodwar hasn't receive a single balance patch since roughly 1999/2000 until today.   When it comes to creating a gameplay that requires skill, and is aimed at balance. You should ignore the un-knowledgeable. Because they have no clue if what they want nor what impact the changes they want will have on the game. They can have input regarding other stuff, like UI, sales, bundles, or saying current MM is boring.   No, arty and cheesing is in no way different. In general RTS, cheesing is only powerful if unscouted (a scouted cheese often result in a lost game). And it also requires quite a lot of skill if one wants to succeed at it.   Yes, it is comparable, we have statistics for this, and the statistics tells us how far apart different elements of the game are from one another.     Champions don't exist in Dota, and they are not banned in seasons, different heroes can be banned in games due to player decisions, usually different banned heroes every game I play.   A balanced game is more challenging then an unbalanced one. The worse the balance in a game is, the less challenging it is.   Balance do not mean identy nor symmetry between maps/tanks/whatever.   And balance is not that complex in such an easy game as WoT. There are few parameters to change for a tank, the meta game is stale, many maps play out in very similar ways. So you don't have to care about meta game changes, you mainly have 1 type of maps to care about aswell. So you only have a few parameters per tank to adjust to that already known scenario.   Players will whine, most whine is irrelevant and nonsensical though.


Simeon85, on 08 January 2019 - 09:21 AM, said: