September Tank Rewards to Celebrate a World With Tanks
Дата: 09.09.2020 19:03:18
zuu_2016, on 07 September 2020 - 01:47 PM, said: But whose fault is, that tier I is uninteresting? Why WG buried
historical tanks? And now you celebrate them? Why dont you
celebrate blueprint only tanks? Because majority ingame played
tanks never saw combat.Sael_: Tier I is supposed to be the point where you're trying the
basics of the game. Once you get that, you should probably move
forward. There's nothing wrong with that, and that's how the game
has always been. This has nothing to do with burying historical
tanks.
Denton_0451, on 07 September 2020 - 02:22 PM, said: I'm not sure if "harder" is the best word to describe doing 100-150 damage in the Tier II-III gift tanks then suiciding to do it again 30 times a day, 14 days a month.
The missions were way better when the whole Tankrewards shebang was introduced on the EU servers. Being top 10, top 5 and top 3 by XP on your team once in three categories (Tier IV-VI, Tier VII-VIII and Tier IX-X vehicles) with proper point rewards was more of a challenge because you had to play good to be top 5 and top 3 in your team by XP , but it wasn't a boring and lifeless grind that the missions were turned into.
Sael_: It would be too easy and quick to complete this challenge
with less games at lower tiers - therefore boring and pointless. If
you are bothered by the amount of games you can try with higher
tiers, grind them if you don't have them. This is the current
structure and it works as intended. I understand your preference of
the old system and I will pass on your feedback. Just as the
structure changed from when TR was brought to EU, it might change
again in the future.
Prettyman, on 07 September 2020 - 02:29 PM, said: It's a huge grind compared with when it was introduced.
I could complete it before, now at T8 and below it requires
more time than I have. I have no Idea why you felt you had
to keep upping the anty and why pointing this out is
somehow entitlement.Sael_: Pointing out that the challenge requires more time/effort to
complete is not entitlement. Demanding that just because of that it
should be lowered, because it shouldn't be hard to complete, and if
we don't comply we're mean and against you, that's
entitlement.
pmakins, on 07 September 2020 - 02:56 PM, said: 1. No one complained
Sael_: First of all, that never happens for anything.
pmakins, on 07 September 2020 - 02:56 PM, said: 1. No one complained on all the iterations of tank rewards until June (April one was controversial because of the hidden Easter egg mission which I also was completely against, you can include the mission but you have to share requirements to everyone..), the only reason WG increased the requirements is their own greed. They realized that they were kinda easy so they wanted to decrease the influx of premium tanks tier 5-6-7 in the mm (bad for economy and bad for sales)
2. The fact that you had the audacity to say that we should be happy we have it at all when Russians don't have tank rewards is just mind-boggling. It is a well known fact that Russian server always had the best rewards for years. There have been countless complaints from European players on the way we are treated. From robot support, to missions, to rewards, everything. Russian premium tanks are cheaper, they have more discounts per year (I haven't checked in the last year or so, but still you can't change history, it's a damn fact that they had everything better for years)
Sael_: For a free to play game to focus on making sure the income on
optional items to buy stays constant is not greed, but
survival.Some servers at times have better things than others.
These things balance out.
Ardralis, on 07 September 2020 - 03:06 PM, said: Thats nice, nearly sure one of your co-workers in the nerf
bounty equipment thread stated the idea to boost bond equipment was
not planned for months in advance after the uproar about bounty
equipment advertiised as equel to bond equipment. Guess it's
whatever suits the current narrative. Front what has
happened in recent months equipment 2.0, changes to bonds and
changes to tank rewards it's clear wargame feel everyone should be
playing teir 10 battles and is trying there best to force the
playerbase to do so.Sael_: The vastest majority of important changes are well thought
over years. And it's exactly because we know that rushed
introductions bring to problems that could be more easily dealt
with if analyzed ahead. Not a matter of adapting the narrative,
it's more like having experience of what happens when rushing
content out.
Liff42, on 07 September 2020 - 08:41 PM, said: Edit: Oh lovely, the system ate my entire post except one sentence.
Couldn't defeat my clipboard though. Holy crap. Where to start?
First of all, it is not harder than NA. It is demanding
several thousand percent the time investment of NA. What I am and
have been complaining about is the mindboggling level of insult of
that. If these absurd requirements had been how the event was put
together in the first place, I would not be complaining. I would
simply ignore it, the way you ignore simple facts like that.
As for 'harder', If missions rewarded performance to a
higher degree, as pointed out elsewhere in the last page of this
thread, that would be a massive improvement. You think
it is entitlement to react to an insult. You think the time
investment you are subjecting EU players to here - a time
investment NA clearly feels it is unacceptable to ask of its
players, bearing in mind this is designed to begin with to
keep participants playing every day of the period (I don't know,
maybe they think people's time is worth something to them or some
crazy craplike that, they're American after all) - somehow can be
described using the word 'free'. You think this attitude is not
condescending. Noted. You seem to lack a very basic
understanding of a number of quite simple concepts, and I fail to
see the point in discussing this further. Thank you
for your time, and the personal insult. Sael_: You are the one that chooses to see a more demanding
challenge as a personal insult. I have already explained further up
what I am pointing out is an entitled mindset. Please do not
manipulate my words to make your point.I would love to know how did
you calculate the advantage that NA gets. But regardless of that,
truth is that it's a couple of hundred points at best they get
through the missions. Wouldn't call that a critical
advantage.Premium tanks are sold for the game, which is free to
play, to still have an income and keep afloat. We are offering them
to you in exchange for completing missions, not spending money.
That's the big deal. The amount of battles you are required to
complete is completely doable, albeit time consuming. We believe
for this to be a fair deal.If you come yelling at me nonfactual
statements and actual insults, the kindest reaction I can have is
trying to explain to you why you're wrong. I am sorry you find that
condescending.
994250, on 08 September 2020 - 11:24 AM, said: @Sael_To be honest, i don't think the missions are hard persay, they are plain impossible with a still healthy amount of playtime. On tier 8, if you play 10 battle a day, then 30 on saturday and sunday, you will still fall 160 tokens short.
The quality of tier X games is so bad, that recentlyi sold all my tier X tanks with the exception of FV and bobject 140 (waiting for the discount to go so i can get more silver back).
Alas i have played plenty of games, but not another one where the community manager calls out players for being entitled, because they don't want to have a harder time than others.
We know the rewards are "free", we pay with our time, so that there is a lively playerbase assuring people spend money.
And if time is our currency, the rewards are way overpriced.
That being said, couldn't care less about these tanks or basically any event you guys are planning.
I liked FL, but you had to ruin that too. So meh, i just play when i feel like, then quit again when i get bored.
Sael_: You are the person deciding what is your own healthy amount
of play time. And you are the one deciding how much time would you
rather invest instead of just buying the goods with your money. If
it's too much time to spend for you over what those tanks are
worth, you don't have to go for it. Not every event is for everyone
and that's normal, you're not forced to take part in it. If you
don't like it, skip it.Others will complete the missions, maybe
find them challenging, but they will be just fine. And I already
explained to you what I addressed as an entitled mindset, so I'm
not going to repeat myself.
September Tank Rewards to Celebrate a World With Tanks